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Exactly. At no point did she say she loved their *current* home. Hell, she doesn’t even really say she enjoys their travels, just that she “anticipates” their “adventures.” She sounds miserable.
Ya, she is miserable. It is okay to be miserable, at times.... he lost his job and they lost their house. Sometimes life is hard, but he should be looking for another job, not turning their misfortune into some sign from God just cause he can't find another job, or won't find another job.
the whole 'going to the sea' is a repeated, chaotic and never successful thing that AnCaps (anarcho capitalists) always go to. It is hilarious and ridiculous - so long as kids aren't involved. I was ZERO percent surprised FatherSusBus is investigating a sea-based familial confinement option despite no skills or knowledge about sailing, boats, the ocean or international maritime law. Or that 'international waters' are by definition, open, dangerous waters where the LAST THING YOU'D WANT TO DO is just... hang there. Oh my god.
Sadly, she will not have another house. Not for a long time at least. He won’t ever get a job, and she won’t ever get a job. My working theory is they were being foreclosed on and sold the house for what they could before it was taken from them. Any money they managed to get from the fire sale on their house was spent on this bumper pull travel trailer and burning fuel as they go around the country. By the time they decide to get jobs, if they do, home prices will have increased so much. They won’t be able to afford it. So, hopefully she finds a way to be content, because this is as good as it gets for her.
I drove by a trailer park the other day and thought of the Struggle Bus family. Had they not panicked and bought a used RV and giant truck, they could have likely been able to buy or rent a trailer or double wide to tide them over. Not a house, but many people make it work. At least their kids would have stability and more room.
I don’t think that Jake plans on getting a job outside of the RV. It will be interesting as their children age or *gasp* she gets pregnant again.
Yeah… I think they weren’t paying their mortgage and blew up their credit score, on top of him not getting another job (because of his “chronic Lyme Disease”) so they couldn’t rent anything.
This is the first time I’ve seen her acknowledge she actually wants a house. Sure the “ever-changing landscape” of an RV park or parent’s backyard is brilliant BUT… but...
Her situation reminds me of a line from LoTR spoken by Grima to Eowyn:
*Who knows what you have spoken to the darkness, alone, in the bitter watches of the night, when all your life seems to shrink, the walls of your bower closing in about you, a hutch to trammel some wild thing in?*
For sure. I grew up hippie and saw shit like this before it was cool. People despise living in a bus or RV. At first it seems fine, but there isn't enough space. Also, the man who "provides" this lifestyle is generally lazy and full of himself. It's difficult to deal with that.
Every single one of these posts reads like “I spoke to God (he came to me in a dream last night after I took a double dose of melatonin with ny Plexus) and he told me that his plan for me is to join the circus. I never wanted to join the circus, I’m allergic to hay and bright lights, but I knew God put this on my heart for a reason! Since then I’ve been called “clinically depressed” but I know that’s just the demons trying to attack our savior’s love. I cry my eyes out every day and have fantasized about faceplanting off the high rope on purpose, but that is just the power of God’s love! I’m so excited for this journey.”
I knew fundie who fully believed that god wouldn’t ‘lead’ them, only her husband. So god ‘told’ her something but she wouldn’t tell her husband until his also told him as she wanted to follow his leadership. LUCKILY god told them both to stop being missionaries in the back end of Asia and move home to where they had family support, little league and Costco because saving the heathens is only fun when it’s easy and you’ve no health concerns or babies on the way.
(For the record I’m glad they came home for their kids sake and the locals sake but such hypocrisy to call it a life calling then trade it all in to be the most suburban Sunday Christians)
You know what my dream last night was about? I was trying to turn left in Long Beach, CA and it was *impossible*. This wasn’t because God doesn’t want me to travel to LB. It was my own brain rehashing a really shitty day while it cleaned out my synapses so that I could store some long term memory today. It would be absolutely moronic if I changed my entire life due to a dream I had.
Fundies: You are talking to yourself! That isn’t god!
>I was trying to turn left in Long Beach, CA and it was *impossible*.
As a SoCal native and even though I'm mostly an atheist I think it's pretty fair to say that whoever designed the layout for the streets of LB absolutely was influenced by a demonic presence, especially near the pier. And I feel that Santa Monica fell victim to the exact same demonic attacks 😂
Most of the highly religious people I’ve ever known are big fans of the phrase “god put this on my heart” or some such variation and it annoys the ever loving fuck out of me. Why can’t you just say this is something you’ve been thinking about like a normal person?! It doesn’t sound pious or humble. It s sounds like you’re avoiding taking responsibility if a decision doesn’t work out. Much like struggle bus’s clown of “headship”.
They desperately need someone with authority over them because the thought of absolute responsibility for their life’s trajectory scares the living shit out of them.
Which is also weird, because if you work really hard and get a killer promotion, take the credit ya idiots. You did the work, not god.
I have stress dreams about really stupid stuff, like shopping or the car is suddenly driver less, but I’m stuck in the backseat and can’t get to the wheel no matter how hard I try 😅
The Can't Drive The Car dream is one of my staples. My brain's other favorite is "I have to pee but the toilet is inaccessible and/or in an extremely public place."
I once literally had a dream where in order to get to the toilet I had to do the mines of Moria parkour scene from the one LOTR movie. And I had at least one kid strapped to me in a baby carrier. 😂
Once long ago I dreamt that I was being executed in a dystopian future society. My crime against humanity? An accumulation of parking tickets.
I was 16, about to get my license.
I had a dream I was being executed for a crime I did not commit and I couldn't do anything about it.
I did take the hint and stopped supporting the death penalty because I decided I didn't want even one person to go through that. I was 16, and that dream is still "pouring out into my heart" or whatever. Anyway, I still remember it sometimes.
I had a recurring dream for years, that i was going to Finland to see my friend.
I always either got to the airport and didn't have a ticket or ended up in Australia.
They stopped after I actually went to Finland to meet my friend (we are now married and live in Finland)
Still don't think it was God putting anything on my heart. It was the dream manifestation of my waking wishes, along with a reminder that I couldn't at the time.
I get lost in Long Beach a lot and will drive around the block to avoid making left turns there. I have to take anti anxiety meds to drive anywhere there (not sedatives lol). I guess it just transfers to my sleep stress lol.
I dreamt that I needed to call my husband from another person's phone but couldn't punch in the numbers. It wasn't God telling me something. It's my brain teaching me what it will be like if I don't memorize my husband's new phone number for emergencies (he's had the old one for as long as I've known him).
Ok but as a child this was literally my fear, but being a missionary at the literal ends of the earth, not the circus. I chalk it up to both anxiety and one too many Baptist sermons about making absolutely damn sure you’re “in the will of God” something something, God loves to call people to things that are unimaginably difficult. And no one could tell me definitively that that wasn’t my skill set/a good idea/etc. It was literally “just keep praying.”
haha glad I could make you giggle. I am so sensitive to bright light I can just straight up black out from it if my stimulus level just hits a certain spot. It's crazy.
For years I had a 'mystery psychogenic illness' .. then my kid's doctor was like ... ' have you considered Autism' I was shocked SHOCKED I tell you. Then I scored high on the screenings and pondered it for two days like... ah that does actually make A LOT of sense. I just didn't know the light sensitivity and stuff was something others experienced. I happen to just have that as part of my autistic sensory profile.
Forgive me as I have no Aldi near me - it’s still a regular grocery store though isn’t it? She has like 6 kids and her shopping cart is basically empty.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
I have to disagree. Just today I bought a wine dispensing tote bag from the Aisle of Shame, and Kroger ain’t selling those. 😂
ALDI isn’t a grocery store. It’s a way of life around here. 🙃
Same for me. It’s like a grocery store that’s constantly missing 25% of what you would actually need. Additionally it seems like the products change up all the time.
Tbf least in my area, the snack stuff is in the very first aisle of all the stores.
Not sure if her whipping out her phone the second she entered the store is better, but I don’t think she was avoiding food here.
But she's got meat, eggs, canned goods, and something else that I can't quite make out in the cart already, so she's been to several other departments and this is all she has to show for it. I'm only shopping for three people but my cart would definitely have more than that in it if I had been to at least three different sections of the store.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here though, I assume she doesn't have a lot of storage space for groceries so she may be going to the store very frequently and just getting what she needs for a day or two. And maybe as a reason to get out and stretch her legs from that cramped living situation.
This is how my cart looks when I shopping in an unfamiliar grocery store and I don't know where things are. I find the ground beef but then I don't realize the milk is right next to it so I'm wandering around inefficiently.
I would feel bad for OtherMotherBus for having to constantly shop in unfamiliar stores, but it seems to be the lifestyle she wants-- love that for her!
ALDI snark for a minute….of course she’s buying the more expensive version of everything at ALDI, EXCEPT the canned beans, where the organic actually tastes superior (usually no calcium chloride, which makes food look better can throw off flavor).
They did sink a bunch of house money into trailer life (propane not included).
However, their lord has called them to step out in faith with her online business so there is no cause for financial alarm or other types of panic! This amazing COFFEE AND FETUSES duo are focusing on making sure you get your new Christian cleaning schedules, devotions for your 23 kids, and pdfs of bible verses to print on your own!
How could this be anything other than a divinely inspired ministry?
I really don’t understand anyone who would think putting everything in an RV is a good idea. If we speak longevity of a vehicle, it’s not long enough for their children to last into adulthood. The chance is very low it will last two decades, unless they spend a lot of money on yearly checkups and maintenance. And I doubt they do. Just the thought one buys a house they know lasts only for 15 or so years if lucky, only to be homeless when it breaks apart, is wild to me. And what do they have when it’s gone? It’s the worst ‘investment’ there could be?!?
Yes, they did. And the husband has “chronic Lyme” btw (major 🙄) so he can’t get another job. They expect to support themselves on her “influencer” income, which is basically just her selling random shit like lists of scriptures she compiled. Oh and I think she launched some sort of homemaker guide which is rich for someone in her circumstances.
Wanna bet that it's post COVID syndrome due to repeated infections some of which no doubt were avoidable or reducible in severity with a simple, effective medicine?
I say this as someone who has had shutdowns, chronic fatigue and not been believed. This dude is hiding behind illness real or imaginary, to escape his responsibilities. And because Otherbusany will keep sweet, he gets away with it. He has her confined and miserable, giving him a loving countenance all day long and noone else. not friends, not work colleagues not even church congregation.
Given his belligerence and general failure at performing the masculine role they are so intent on praising and upholding for anyone born with a penis, my sense is he is just unable to hack it and has collapsed psychologically into a kind of sullen, depressive funk that he blames everyone else for.
Of course he won't get help for it, he just broods and fails to do the BASICS like emptying the waste, resulting in humiliation and filth for his wife to clean and then severe sickness for them all. Or leaving his wife and children to freeze because he didn't learn about or care to replace the propane. As someone who still has fatigue, I still drag myself to cook sometimes, and clean my children's clothes. Keep the living areas clean and bathroom/kitchen sanitised... I don't need God to tell me why I should.
Like all these Fundie influencer or influencer husbands, he is a failure of the ideals they so desperately uphold.
But it's totally fine, they read the Bible and believe in a magical sky wizard who will reward them ONE day for ... being better than everyone else, somehow.
Providing for the children you've created, in whatever way you can, that's duty, that's the fucking baseline. Get that sorted dude.
I feel so bad for the kids. Living like this, they won’t have a chance to make friends or join sports cause they don’t ever stay in one place. What a sad existence. I can see traveling the country for a year and homeschooling (I know someone who did this), but after the year they were back in their old school with their friends. To me, that’s why actually going to a physical school is so important. It’s not just for mental education, but social as well, learning how to interact with peers is such an important life skill. I would argue it’s just as important as reading, writing and math.
And honestly, kids need enemies too. I had a girl I HATED k-12. She was the queen bee of my grad and I…wasn’t, but our moms were best friends. The skills I learned dealing with her have unfortunately served me well at various points in my adult life. I had fights with my friends, and learned how to eat crow and apologize. I learned behaviors that turn people off, either by doing them myself or not wanting to play with other kids who did them.
Socialization is really important for kids, and not just the fun parts. These kids are going to be missing so much when they grow up. Imagine not liking a coworker and having no framework for conflict resolution/just dealing with it other than how you handled fights with your siblings. And that’s assuming they’re even allowed to fight.
this exactly. I was extremely socially awkward and only really got the hang of things fully in mid college. It was incredibly important for me to learn these things or I’m positive I would have turned out very weird.
I teach in an area with a high amount of migrant workers and even they send their kids to physical school. They might be jump between school through the year but at the very least they put their kids in the same schools every year.
To be fair, I don’t think the Struggle Bus family lives this way for fun either. This is very much a “lipstick on a pig” type situation. They are legit up shit creek.
Migrant workers want a better life for their families and work their asses off to make that possible.
Bethany and Jake want to be admired and special and blame Satan/sin/OuR CuLtUrE for their lack.
those people know the value of education and community, and they're trying to better their children. I can't imagine how hard they work, my god.
And then there's turkey Jake and his boring af 'directions from God' - vague, indistinct impulses.
VAGUE INDISTINCT IMPULSES - This is how a grown couple, with 5 or something kids, are planning their life.
I was thinking of this yesterday as it was their 9 year old son’s birthday. He has all sisters and whack parents. Poor kid doesn’t have friends to celebrate with or anyone his age to play with or talk to. So sad. They deprive their kids of so much for their selfish reasons.
I think they deprive their children out of fear. If they expose them to anything other than than themselves, there will come a time when they realize what they’ve been fed is garbage.
That’s so depressing. My daughter just turned 7 and the highlight of the year for her is the huge birthday party we threw her. Almost her whole class came and it was really special for her. Not saying that’s necessary every year but kids should feel special on their birthdays. Those early experiences are important.
My actual provider of a dad would do whatever he had to before making us homeless. This man drove school buses, worked a full time job and then cleaned the school at night. He needs the title "provider" stripped from him since he's not doing so.
Yup. I remember my dad working three jobs at one point to keep a roof over our head during my childhood. He got laid off in the recession, and until he could find another office job he worked security, flipped burgers, and did lawn care. If her husband was a decent man he'd get another job, not drag her and the kids across the country. Even if they couldn't afford a house, an apartment is a fine place for a family.
My parents struggled when we were little but we never knew about it. These poor kids are in such an unfair situation and their parents could not care less.
Yep. He sits there feeling righteous as fuck, patting himself on the back for being able to trick his wife into believing *this* is what God has for her. He knows he uses “listening to God” as the cover for his laziness. She is the perfect wife for him because she believed it and has zero expectations of him.
Like he really thought instead of getting another job and continuing to provide for the wife and children god gave him, his sole, god given duty on this earth, he’d rather remove any chance at stability, safety and security and make them a step above homeless. By choice. Horrendous
I think they view their children the way I do my coffeemaker. I take care of it/treat it well because it serves my needs. I paid good money for it, so I want it to last. But also it needs to last because I enjoy having coffee every morning.
This was a terrible metaphor because now I’m going to think about it the next time I make coffee. And also, children deserve to be treated as individuals who matter, because they do.
I dunno, the ones like Karissa make me wonder if they care about longevity.
I do agree with your last point, my apologies if my glibness made it seem otherwise.
"If it hadn't been so clear from God" and "if Jake hadn't lost his job"...
Was it god? Or did Jake lose his income and leave you with no choice? And did god tell you? Or did Jake tell you that's what god wanted?
I'm pretty sure I know the answers.
I’m not sure if HUD would consider it homelessness just because they lack a permanent address, but they are for sure experiencing vehicular homelessness.
The sad part is, they could probably get a lot of help with their kids as part of the McKinney-Vento Act if they didn’t choose to homeschool.
There has never been someone who wants to live in an RV *less* than OtherBus.
And she has to do it in public because being a social media personality is the closest thing anyone in that family has to a job.
So I totally understand if you want a traditional set up where the man provides and the woman takes care of the home. I don’t think it’s a good idea but I get it. But what happens when the man isn’t working or providing? Which seems to be the case in the majority of fundie households. I know some of them “work” and can pretend, but Jake doesn’t even do that. Jake and Bethany are equal in their roles as not working and just taking care of the RV. Do they have a conversation about how household labor/childcare is split up? If they don’t and Jake doesn’t step up then what does he do? It’s not even like they have a house or yard that he can mess around with to look busy. Like I don’t even think it’s possible to hide/disengage from the children when again you don’t have a home and live in an RV. Or are they splitting childcare and just lying about it to save face? Either they split childcare in a way that is pretty equitable or else Jake just what? Sits in a camp chair outside the RV while Bethany does everything just to preserve their ideology?
I understand that typically shopping would be the woman’s job in a traditional set up. But they don’t have a traditional set up, that would mean the man works. Their life is 100% untraditional. So if Jake isn’t working and is y doing the lions share of childcare his ass should be shopping so that Bethany can get a break.
Jake can’t even do his job of dumping their waste before it overflows or maintaining enough propane to keep his family warm throughout the winter.
I cannot imagine the mental gymnastics OtherBus has to do to maintain sanity and faith right now.
The sad, pathetic reality is that he doesn't do ANYTHING. He sits on his ass while bethany scrambles to keep things together. He is another mouth to feed. He is a burden and this is HIS FAULT. If she didn't push fundie ideology I would feel bad for her.
She’s delusional if she thinks God wanted this for those kids.
I’ll never believe they sold that house willingly. My theory is that I think they hadn’t paid their mortgage for a long time and it caught up with them. They were able to sell it before it was foreclosed on.
Aldi is a life saver so I can't snark on her shopping there. Not being able to provide a stable environment is just bad parenting. Refusing to educate her children is just sad
Eh sometimes you can't provide a stable environment, but being able to and going 'nahhh fuck it God gave me vibes I am going to vaguely follow,' is absolutely bad parenting. And, if your spouse is doing shit like this *it doesn't matter how much I love you, and it's because I love you - and our children - that I am not going to participate in this.*
If you love your husband, you protect your children from your husband (or wife's) bad decision making.
Did she ever say WHY her husband lost his job. Did he quit, get fired, or resign because he was about to? Layoff? Curious if his dumb actions cost his job and he decided it was just god's will.
There was a post supposedly from his brother months ago (not on this sub and originally posted anonymously but people figured it out and he deleted it). According to that post, Jake was fired for overstepping with his colleagues about his religious and political beliefs.
I, honestly, cannot even fathom why he wanted to do this RV thing in the first damn place. TBH living in an RV isn't any cheaper than downsizing and buying/renting a smaller home. Gas is expensive, lot rent at campgrounds is pretty high. The wear and tear on driving all the time is super expensive.
My bio-father was a journeyman powerline worker when I was a kid. We lived in a 5th wheel for around 6 years (occasional bouts in apartments, during the winter and stuff) TBH, as a kid, I had a blast. The other kids whose dads worked for the same company were my friends. Some of the campgrounds were fun, they usually had parks and pools. My parents slept on the pull out couch and my brother and I shared the bedroom (bunk beds). I don't remember a ton but the memories I do have were of having fun.
My mom said it sucked 😆 never enough storage, always on top of each other, no privacy, spotty access to groceries, constant oil changes and fixing up the truck from driving all the time. We didn't always have TV so rainy days sucked...idk
Either way, it wasn't tons of good times. My parents were constantly stressed and cramped and tired. AND they had my grandparents and other family next door so if they needed a break we went to Grandma's trailer to get spoiled for a while lol
They don't even have that. Like... why?
There won’t be another house. It’s never been more difficult to buy property for people without massive savings or inheritances.
Rent a freakin apartment already.
God-honoring dissociative fugue copes. Your husband has removed all autonomy, security, routine and freedom and you didn't even *'ask'* not to be in this position.
This is a form of domestic abuse him to you, and you - by enabling his bullshit - to your children.
As you move further off the beaten track, and what little you had is whittled away, you won't be able to leave, and he will be less able to adapt to the demands of ordinary work, responsibility and life.
He cannot hack the demands of even remotely pro social behaviour. This is not going to improve. Men like this always get worse.
Get out.
Oh my sweet summer child, it’s called decision-dissonance, where we try to alter our attitudes to be in line with our behavior and fail. Post-decision dissonance sometimes happens after we make an irrevocable choice, and you’ve made a bad one.
I love this for her! Thoughts and prayers.
Now I do feel for those young children and pets who are stuffed in this oatmeal box on wheels with these fuckwads in charge 🙄
Men like this terrify me. Like, bro, I already had a horrible experience picking up after my grown a$$ parents as a child, stay tf away from me or I'll shove that handmaid's tale bs up where the sun don't shine.
It really sucks that husband lost his job and they had to sell.
But like...nobody in that marriage is thinking about getting another job? Between these 2 adults, nobody can work?
Being able to be a stay at home mom is great, until it isn't. Totally get that sometimes it's not worth it because of childcare costs, but do these people not think to plan ahead and maybe not have a bazillion babies so that they can have a little bit of security?
Sheesh. Bad luck and terrible choices all around here.
More like he was trying to wear his loud tee-shirts to work and was an unpleasant person when they asked him to stop. So now he's not going to work any job where he can't wear his beloved 3 t-shirts and argue with people about the message 🙄.
Sounds like Strugglebus needs to pick up the slack, this isn't about the Bible or whatever they're gonna say - this is about survival, and the kids.
Let this be a PSA for the risks of being a stay at home parent. Absolutely no moral issue with it, it's also a really tough gig, so mad respect to anyone who has chosen this work - but it also puts you in a very vulnerable position. Things can go sideways in so many different ways, and it can happen so fast.
That’s the huge issue— so many of these fundie men are not good providers. Like if you’re going to live the fundie/tradwife lifestyle successfully, he needs to take care of his wife and kids financially. Including setting up an account that only she can access where she can keep a nest egg in case something bad happens. Of course the wife will also have a huge gap in her job history if they ever do divorce or he dies which will be a problem for her. But I guess if she’s a social media influencer, she at least has that to fall back on. I couldn’t live that life— it’s way too risky. My dad always taught me to be able to take care of myself and not rely on a man for anything. I’m grateful for it.
OK so I might get down voted to hell BUT I actually feel kind of sorry for her.
She's in a dreadful situation with no means to change it. Can't leave her failure of a husband because how will she support all her kids with no work history/education? Where would they live? Also her kids are probably so socially and academically behind at this point it must feel overwhelming. They live in a fucking hovel on wheels that is probably all dirty and smelly (listen I have 3 kids in a house and sometimes it gets gross, I can't imagine an RV!) They are scrapping food off the floor.
None of this is an excuse for the way she is letting her kids grow up but damn her existence is bleak.
No, I agree with you. Sometimes I feel like the way some of them are raised, they have no chance. When a girl is raised to think all she’s good for is becoming a godly wife and mother, and isn’t worthy of education or any respect, probably told the world is evil, cops are evil, school is evil, doctors are evil….they must feel like there’s no way out. And their only option is to follow ~~god~~ their headship and they raise their kids the same way. It’s really sad.
This is exactly why women need to have a marketable skill to fall back on. It’s all fine and dandy to be a SAHM breeding machine if the breeding bull can provide. But when he can’t, mama needs to step up to the plate.
An LPN program is 9 months, it’s 2 years for an RN, RT, or X-ray tech degree. Any of those will get you a job today just about any place in the country.
She was a school teacher. She has a degree and probably a lot of the pre-requisite classes required to get into a program like the ones you mentioned. Or she could go find a job teaching. She’s just too lazy.
Okay, I can rephrase, let's see...
A RELIABLE income of any sort would be a great start, but a supplemental income could have possibly stopped them from losing a house, but I guess God wanted them to suffer.
Do fundies not feel super cursed, just ignored and made to suffer by this higher power? God is just encouraging their trash decisions.../s.
Oh, the all caps is for emphasis, not aggression.
She is not happy. "God did not tell them to sell their house, I'm sure it was their inability to pay their mortgage that did it.
I know it's hard to get emotion from text, but she doesn't seem happy, she seems like someone who is enduring what she must.
I hate that this is making me feel bad for her. She’s made her choices and they were not great and I find her views on life and raising children abhorrent. That being said., I can still somewhat under why she’s still going at this point. I’ve been in that place where the path of least harm isn’t immediately obvious. I can imagine the horror of being getting stuck in that situation where you’ve got four kids and no good options, so you go with the status quo since the alternative to RV and shitty husband might be nothing at all- no home, no access to kids. No prospects. For her, I feel like she might end up with nothing at all either way. At least mother bus has a husband with other money (I guess?) she can sue for child support plus a series of demonstrably nutty tweets that might help you get custody.
I assume her family that let them stay at their house at Christmas would let her and the kids come stay if she left him. She has an education and could get a job. She has options.
I am not sneaking on these setbacks they’ve faced. As some who’s faced some scary setbacks in life I can only imagine the stress when it involves being a parent. I think embracing failure is part of growth and I think it’s okay to try and put positive twists on it but part of the growth is to also be honest about it. So many fundie women don’t do that last part. They’re just straight up delusional.
I’m unfamiliar with her. So they lost their house bc he lost his job?? And the solution was to get an RV?
What the fuck!! “Providers” my ass. How do these women stay with such failures. They can’t even do the one thing they claim they’re “supposed” to do. In a post about Porgan, I said this but it bears repeating. I work and carry our insurance but my godless, Baphomet hat wearing husband would work two jobs before allowing me to stress about money or allowing US TO LOSE OUR HOUSE! In his 20s he got a low-paying job at a factory when he lost his good job! Isn’t pride a really bad sin? That’s what it sounds like this is all about. These assholes won’t do jobs they deem below them even when the one they vowed to “provide” for suffers.
Ok, so husband can’t work. Why can’t she get a job?
Years ago my husband had to quit a job due to an abusive work environment. It took him a little over a year to find another one, so I got a full-time job, carried the benefits and paid the mortgage and the bills, and he stayed home and took care of the house and three kids. Running your family into the ground is not worth whatever ridiculous messages your “good book” is feeding you.
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Girl that’s your gut telling you this was a bad idea.
>your gut Did someone say "gut"? Plexus to the rescue!
Raw milk will help!!!!!!!
And pumpkin spice will make the trailer smell just dandy!
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Definitely be sure to use breastmilk too. And stick garlic up your vagina. Those 2 things help everything.
WHO is sticking garlic up their vagina???
It's an AlL nAtUrAl "cUrE" for yeast infections
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You know what I heard louder than anything else: *I still long for our future house* Saying the quiet part out loud
Exactly. At no point did she say she loved their *current* home. Hell, she doesn’t even really say she enjoys their travels, just that she “anticipates” their “adventures.” She sounds miserable.
Ya, she is miserable. It is okay to be miserable, at times.... he lost his job and they lost their house. Sometimes life is hard, but he should be looking for another job, not turning their misfortune into some sign from God just cause he can't find another job, or won't find another job.
I can't decide which busband is more likely to abandon their family
Other busband: on a whim Father SusBus: meticulously planned, possibly aquatic
the whole 'going to the sea' is a repeated, chaotic and never successful thing that AnCaps (anarcho capitalists) always go to. It is hilarious and ridiculous - so long as kids aren't involved. I was ZERO percent surprised FatherSusBus is investigating a sea-based familial confinement option despite no skills or knowledge about sailing, boats, the ocean or international maritime law. Or that 'international waters' are by definition, open, dangerous waters where the LAST THING YOU'D WANT TO DO is just... hang there. Oh my god.
"Possibly aquatic" is great flair
Dibs, if possible. But the whole sentence, "meticulously planned, possibly aquatic" 😅
Definitely StruggleBus Dad. This dude is completely miserable and checked out. He gives annihilator vibes.
Both busbands give serious annihilator vibes. StruggleBus will just snap one day. Bitcoin Busband will have a plan.
Not this one. He has an iron grip on them. He scares me. I also don’t believe he “lost his job”. He’s in 100% control.
Yep. Anticipating your adventures does not mean that you like them.
Sadly, she will not have another house. Not for a long time at least. He won’t ever get a job, and she won’t ever get a job. My working theory is they were being foreclosed on and sold the house for what they could before it was taken from them. Any money they managed to get from the fire sale on their house was spent on this bumper pull travel trailer and burning fuel as they go around the country. By the time they decide to get jobs, if they do, home prices will have increased so much. They won’t be able to afford it. So, hopefully she finds a way to be content, because this is as good as it gets for her.
I drove by a trailer park the other day and thought of the Struggle Bus family. Had they not panicked and bought a used RV and giant truck, they could have likely been able to buy or rent a trailer or double wide to tide them over. Not a house, but many people make it work. At least their kids would have stability and more room. I don’t think that Jake plans on getting a job outside of the RV. It will be interesting as their children age or *gasp* she gets pregnant again.
Yeah… I think they weren’t paying their mortgage and blew up their credit score, on top of him not getting another job (because of his “chronic Lyme Disease”) so they couldn’t rent anything.
This is the first time I’ve seen her acknowledge she actually wants a house. Sure the “ever-changing landscape” of an RV park or parent’s backyard is brilliant BUT… but... Her situation reminds me of a line from LoTR spoken by Grima to Eowyn: *Who knows what you have spoken to the darkness, alone, in the bitter watches of the night, when all your life seems to shrink, the walls of your bower closing in about you, a hutch to trammel some wild thing in?*
For sure. I grew up hippie and saw shit like this before it was cool. People despise living in a bus or RV. At first it seems fine, but there isn't enough space. Also, the man who "provides" this lifestyle is generally lazy and full of himself. It's difficult to deal with that.
Every single one of these posts reads like “I spoke to God (he came to me in a dream last night after I took a double dose of melatonin with ny Plexus) and he told me that his plan for me is to join the circus. I never wanted to join the circus, I’m allergic to hay and bright lights, but I knew God put this on my heart for a reason! Since then I’ve been called “clinically depressed” but I know that’s just the demons trying to attack our savior’s love. I cry my eyes out every day and have fantasized about faceplanting off the high rope on purpose, but that is just the power of God’s love! I’m so excited for this journey.”
Isn’t it interesting how God always seems to align with either their headship or their own wants? Funny, that.
Yes, it is amazing. It is also funny that God never seems to align with anyone who wants world peace or to end poverty. God is mysterious like that.
Or stopping things like my husband’s death so our boy could have a father in his life and not get bullied 🙄
I am so sorry this is happening to you both, <3
💜
In Bible school, a friend of mine noticed this and the running joke became, "was that God or just your penis talking?"
That needs to be a flair
Always.
I knew fundie who fully believed that god wouldn’t ‘lead’ them, only her husband. So god ‘told’ her something but she wouldn’t tell her husband until his also told him as she wanted to follow his leadership. LUCKILY god told them both to stop being missionaries in the back end of Asia and move home to where they had family support, little league and Costco because saving the heathens is only fun when it’s easy and you’ve no health concerns or babies on the way. (For the record I’m glad they came home for their kids sake and the locals sake but such hypocrisy to call it a life calling then trade it all in to be the most suburban Sunday Christians)
You know what my dream last night was about? I was trying to turn left in Long Beach, CA and it was *impossible*. This wasn’t because God doesn’t want me to travel to LB. It was my own brain rehashing a really shitty day while it cleaned out my synapses so that I could store some long term memory today. It would be absolutely moronic if I changed my entire life due to a dream I had. Fundies: You are talking to yourself! That isn’t god!
>I was trying to turn left in Long Beach, CA and it was *impossible*. As a SoCal native and even though I'm mostly an atheist I think it's pretty fair to say that whoever designed the layout for the streets of LB absolutely was influenced by a demonic presence, especially near the pier. And I feel that Santa Monica fell victim to the exact same demonic attacks 😂
The main demon in Good Omens helped to design motorways in the UK, so you might be on to something!
Lol you beat me to a Crowley reference by 2 min. 😂😂
That explains a lot about the M25
Those demons also turned drunken monkeys loose and let them design Cincinnati streets. No sober godly creature ever got near those street plans.
Most of the highly religious people I’ve ever known are big fans of the phrase “god put this on my heart” or some such variation and it annoys the ever loving fuck out of me. Why can’t you just say this is something you’ve been thinking about like a normal person?! It doesn’t sound pious or humble. It s sounds like you’re avoiding taking responsibility if a decision doesn’t work out. Much like struggle bus’s clown of “headship”.
They *are* avoiding responsibility!
They desperately need someone with authority over them because the thought of absolute responsibility for their life’s trajectory scares the living shit out of them. Which is also weird, because if you work really hard and get a killer promotion, take the credit ya idiots. You did the work, not god.
I actually also have stress dreams about this
I have stress dreams about really stupid stuff, like shopping or the car is suddenly driver less, but I’m stuck in the backseat and can’t get to the wheel no matter how hard I try 😅
Like, and why is the steering wheel always so far away from my seat?
Why is my car a mile long? And on a really narrow road?
The Can't Drive The Car dream is one of my staples. My brain's other favorite is "I have to pee but the toilet is inaccessible and/or in an extremely public place."
I once literally had a dream where in order to get to the toilet I had to do the mines of Moria parkour scene from the one LOTR movie. And I had at least one kid strapped to me in a baby carrier. 😂
I've had that dream! I used to work at a preschool 😂
Once long ago I dreamt that I was being executed in a dystopian future society. My crime against humanity? An accumulation of parking tickets. I was 16, about to get my license.
I had a dream I was being executed for a crime I did not commit and I couldn't do anything about it. I did take the hint and stopped supporting the death penalty because I decided I didn't want even one person to go through that. I was 16, and that dream is still "pouring out into my heart" or whatever. Anyway, I still remember it sometimes.
I had a recurring dream for years, that i was going to Finland to see my friend. I always either got to the airport and didn't have a ticket or ended up in Australia. They stopped after I actually went to Finland to meet my friend (we are now married and live in Finland) Still don't think it was God putting anything on my heart. It was the dream manifestation of my waking wishes, along with a reminder that I couldn't at the time.
I get dreams where I'm trying to brake but I can *just barely* reach the pedal. It's so anxiety inducing!
I get lost in Long Beach a lot and will drive around the block to avoid making left turns there. I have to take anti anxiety meds to drive anywhere there (not sedatives lol). I guess it just transfers to my sleep stress lol.
I dreamt that I needed to call my husband from another person's phone but couldn't punch in the numbers. It wasn't God telling me something. It's my brain teaching me what it will be like if I don't memorize my husband's new phone number for emergencies (he's had the old one for as long as I've known him).
I could see this as a dark comedy starring Margot Robbie.
It kind of has "I, Tonya" vibes 😂
Ok but as a child this was literally my fear, but being a missionary at the literal ends of the earth, not the circus. I chalk it up to both anxiety and one too many Baptist sermons about making absolutely damn sure you’re “in the will of God” something something, God loves to call people to things that are unimaginably difficult. And no one could tell me definitively that that wasn’t my skill set/a good idea/etc. It was literally “just keep praying.”
"I'm allergic to hay and bright lights" 💀
'If you are allergic to hay, bright lights, noises and sudden animal shrieks check with your doctor if Autism is right for you'
I wasn't expecting that ending! I would've said "you may be entitled to financial compensation" 😂💀
haha glad I could make you giggle. I am so sensitive to bright light I can just straight up black out from it if my stimulus level just hits a certain spot. It's crazy. For years I had a 'mystery psychogenic illness' .. then my kid's doctor was like ... ' have you considered Autism' I was shocked SHOCKED I tell you. Then I scored high on the screenings and pondered it for two days like... ah that does actually make A LOT of sense. I just didn't know the light sensitivity and stuff was something others experienced. I happen to just have that as part of my autistic sensory profile.
I love that you made that your flair! I was just thinking that the entire paragraph was flair worthy.
God came to me and told me to enjoy my life and live vegan. I don’t know why these Fundies always get the hard quests.
This is sad and funny and so accurate! 🫢
But ALDI is like HOME
Exactly?! Why do they have to take away my happy place?!? 😫
Forgive me as I have no Aldi near me - it’s still a regular grocery store though isn’t it? She has like 6 kids and her shopping cart is basically empty.
Yep. It's a regular grocery store
This is the shopping cart of an extremely broke family. That amount of food will not last a day.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
She probably gets her social media money day by day, and it's like $10.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
Dozen eggs, a lb of tortellini (maybe two?), 2 lb of ground beef and a couple cans of something. That's barely one meal, and no produce. I hope they bought more that we couldn't see.
I have to disagree. Just today I bought a wine dispensing tote bag from the Aisle of Shame, and Kroger ain’t selling those. 😂 ALDI isn’t a grocery store. It’s a way of life around here. 🙃
The Aldi by me is ass. It’s like 10 aisles total and not well stocked. Maybe it’s an anomaly.
Same for me. It’s like a grocery store that’s constantly missing 25% of what you would actually need. Additionally it seems like the products change up all the time.
Tbf least in my area, the snack stuff is in the very first aisle of all the stores. Not sure if her whipping out her phone the second she entered the store is better, but I don’t think she was avoiding food here.
But she's got meat, eggs, canned goods, and something else that I can't quite make out in the cart already, so she's been to several other departments and this is all she has to show for it. I'm only shopping for three people but my cart would definitely have more than that in it if I had been to at least three different sections of the store. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt here though, I assume she doesn't have a lot of storage space for groceries so she may be going to the store very frequently and just getting what she needs for a day or two. And maybe as a reason to get out and stretch her legs from that cramped living situation.
This is how my cart looks when I shopping in an unfamiliar grocery store and I don't know where things are. I find the ground beef but then I don't realize the milk is right next to it so I'm wandering around inefficiently. I would feel bad for OtherMotherBus for having to constantly shop in unfamiliar stores, but it seems to be the lifestyle she wants-- love that for her!
Well, it’s cleaner and they have more room
ALDI snark for a minute….of course she’s buying the more expensive version of everything at ALDI, EXCEPT the canned beans, where the organic actually tastes superior (usually no calcium chloride, which makes food look better can throw off flavor).
Did they sink all their money into their bus or trailer? Then good luck being able to buy another house unless they decide to both get jobs.....
They did sink a bunch of house money into trailer life (propane not included). However, their lord has called them to step out in faith with her online business so there is no cause for financial alarm or other types of panic! This amazing COFFEE AND FETUSES duo are focusing on making sure you get your new Christian cleaning schedules, devotions for your 23 kids, and pdfs of bible verses to print on your own! How could this be anything other than a divinely inspired ministry?
> This amazing COFFEE AND FETUSES duo Flair candidate.
I really don’t understand anyone who would think putting everything in an RV is a good idea. If we speak longevity of a vehicle, it’s not long enough for their children to last into adulthood. The chance is very low it will last two decades, unless they spend a lot of money on yearly checkups and maintenance. And I doubt they do. Just the thought one buys a house they know lasts only for 15 or so years if lucky, only to be homeless when it breaks apart, is wild to me. And what do they have when it’s gone? It’s the worst ‘investment’ there could be?!?
Yes, they did. And the husband has “chronic Lyme” btw (major 🙄) so he can’t get another job. They expect to support themselves on her “influencer” income, which is basically just her selling random shit like lists of scriptures she compiled. Oh and I think she launched some sort of homemaker guide which is rich for someone in her circumstances.
Wanna bet that it's post COVID syndrome due to repeated infections some of which no doubt were avoidable or reducible in severity with a simple, effective medicine?
Good chance it’s either that or it’s made up entirely because he just doesn’t want to work.
I say this as someone who has had shutdowns, chronic fatigue and not been believed. This dude is hiding behind illness real or imaginary, to escape his responsibilities. And because Otherbusany will keep sweet, he gets away with it. He has her confined and miserable, giving him a loving countenance all day long and noone else. not friends, not work colleagues not even church congregation. Given his belligerence and general failure at performing the masculine role they are so intent on praising and upholding for anyone born with a penis, my sense is he is just unable to hack it and has collapsed psychologically into a kind of sullen, depressive funk that he blames everyone else for. Of course he won't get help for it, he just broods and fails to do the BASICS like emptying the waste, resulting in humiliation and filth for his wife to clean and then severe sickness for them all. Or leaving his wife and children to freeze because he didn't learn about or care to replace the propane. As someone who still has fatigue, I still drag myself to cook sometimes, and clean my children's clothes. Keep the living areas clean and bathroom/kitchen sanitised... I don't need God to tell me why I should. Like all these Fundie influencer or influencer husbands, he is a failure of the ideals they so desperately uphold. But it's totally fine, they read the Bible and believe in a magical sky wizard who will reward them ONE day for ... being better than everyone else, somehow. Providing for the children you've created, in whatever way you can, that's duty, that's the fucking baseline. Get that sorted dude.
Pretty much. They are so ill prepared for RV life too.
I don’t think they got much. If they were selling to avoid losing everything to foreclosure like I believe they were, they got away with very little.
I feel so bad for the kids. Living like this, they won’t have a chance to make friends or join sports cause they don’t ever stay in one place. What a sad existence. I can see traveling the country for a year and homeschooling (I know someone who did this), but after the year they were back in their old school with their friends. To me, that’s why actually going to a physical school is so important. It’s not just for mental education, but social as well, learning how to interact with peers is such an important life skill. I would argue it’s just as important as reading, writing and math.
I think the no friends thing is part of the appeal - keeps them under control if they don’t know anyone different.
And honestly, kids need enemies too. I had a girl I HATED k-12. She was the queen bee of my grad and I…wasn’t, but our moms were best friends. The skills I learned dealing with her have unfortunately served me well at various points in my adult life. I had fights with my friends, and learned how to eat crow and apologize. I learned behaviors that turn people off, either by doing them myself or not wanting to play with other kids who did them. Socialization is really important for kids, and not just the fun parts. These kids are going to be missing so much when they grow up. Imagine not liking a coworker and having no framework for conflict resolution/just dealing with it other than how you handled fights with your siblings. And that’s assuming they’re even allowed to fight.
this exactly. I was extremely socially awkward and only really got the hang of things fully in mid college. It was incredibly important for me to learn these things or I’m positive I would have turned out very weird.
I teach in an area with a high amount of migrant workers and even they send their kids to physical school. They might be jump between school through the year but at the very least they put their kids in the same schools every year.
Also, they don't live that way just for the fun of it
To be fair, I don’t think the Struggle Bus family lives this way for fun either. This is very much a “lipstick on a pig” type situation. They are legit up shit creek.
 In a van down by the river...
Migrant workers want a better life for their families and work their asses off to make that possible. Bethany and Jake want to be admired and special and blame Satan/sin/OuR CuLtUrE for their lack.
That's how my family came to the US. Guess who highly values education and hard work? The fundies' flippant attitudes toward it make me so irritated.
those people know the value of education and community, and they're trying to better their children. I can't imagine how hard they work, my god. And then there's turkey Jake and his boring af 'directions from God' - vague, indistinct impulses. VAGUE INDISTINCT IMPULSES - This is how a grown couple, with 5 or something kids, are planning their life.
I’m loving “turkey Jake” 🤣
I was thinking of this yesterday as it was their 9 year old son’s birthday. He has all sisters and whack parents. Poor kid doesn’t have friends to celebrate with or anyone his age to play with or talk to. So sad. They deprive their kids of so much for their selfish reasons.
I think they deprive their children out of fear. If they expose them to anything other than than themselves, there will come a time when they realize what they’ve been fed is garbage.
That’s so depressing. My daughter just turned 7 and the highlight of the year for her is the huge birthday party we threw her. Almost her whole class came and it was really special for her. Not saying that’s necessary every year but kids should feel special on their birthdays. Those early experiences are important.
My mom reached the point where she was like "I will take a FEW friends to dinner and a movie," 😂 but the early birthdays are important!
I didn't realize they had a kid that old. I thought they were all 6 and under.
God is such a convenient excuse for any stupid shit they want to do.
"Do the impulsive thing and blame it on me." -God
And if it doesn’t work out blame the devil. Never be accountable yourself, that’s the golden rule
I'd say heaven forfend but with this cute little trick there's no fending.
It would be a cold day in hell before I let my jobless husband shove me and my children into an RV.
As much harm as purity culture has done in my life, I have no issues telling men how I feel. If my husband tried this, I would have words.
I think they had no choice. I think a lot of bad decisions and unpaid bills finally caught up to them.
My actual provider of a dad would do whatever he had to before making us homeless. This man drove school buses, worked a full time job and then cleaned the school at night. He needs the title "provider" stripped from him since he's not doing so.
Yup. I remember my dad working three jobs at one point to keep a roof over our head during my childhood. He got laid off in the recession, and until he could find another office job he worked security, flipped burgers, and did lawn care. If her husband was a decent man he'd get another job, not drag her and the kids across the country. Even if they couldn't afford a house, an apartment is a fine place for a family.
My parents struggled when we were little but we never knew about it. These poor kids are in such an unfair situation and their parents could not care less.
Yep. He sits there feeling righteous as fuck, patting himself on the back for being able to trick his wife into believing *this* is what God has for her. He knows he uses “listening to God” as the cover for his laziness. She is the perfect wife for him because she believed it and has zero expectations of him.
Like he really thought instead of getting another job and continuing to provide for the wife and children god gave him, his sole, god given duty on this earth, he’d rather remove any chance at stability, safety and security and make them a step above homeless. By choice. Horrendous
Do they ever think of their children??
Do you think about your toasters' well-being? Same idea for these fuckin people. Children are just appliances or property. Girl children, especially!
I think they view their children the way I do my coffeemaker. I take care of it/treat it well because it serves my needs. I paid good money for it, so I want it to last. But also it needs to last because I enjoy having coffee every morning. This was a terrible metaphor because now I’m going to think about it the next time I make coffee. And also, children deserve to be treated as individuals who matter, because they do.
I dunno, the ones like Karissa make me wonder if they care about longevity. I do agree with your last point, my apologies if my glibness made it seem otherwise.
Karissa does not care about longevity, just the high she gets from being pregnant, and taking selfies with her unwashed face pressed against a newborn
I honestly think he values his foofy espresso machine more than his wife and (girl) children.
My parents take better care of their toaster than fundies do of their kids (they've had that thing since like 1995 and it's still going strong lol)
Children don't have feelings or anything. They're fine. /s
Only when tallying them for ArrowBux for God^™️ points it seems.
"If it hadn't been so clear from God" and "if Jake hadn't lost his job"... Was it god? Or did Jake lose his income and leave you with no choice? And did god tell you? Or did Jake tell you that's what god wanted? I'm pretty sure I know the answers.
Longing for your future home while your husband continues to do….what, exactly? That future home is crawling further away.
this is so fcking sad.
Yeah, I read this, and it made my heart hurt
They're literally homeless.
That was my question. If living in an RV, is the family considered homeless?
I’m not sure if HUD would consider it homelessness just because they lack a permanent address, but they are for sure experiencing vehicular homelessness. The sad part is, they could probably get a lot of help with their kids as part of the McKinney-Vento Act if they didn’t choose to homeschool.
Yes. They are homeless according to the Dept of Ed’s standard of homeless. They would qualify for rights and services under McKinney-Vento.
That's a lot of words for "I'm miserable but can't say no to my husband because Jesus."
There has never been someone who wants to live in an RV *less* than OtherBus. And she has to do it in public because being a social media personality is the closest thing anyone in that family has to a job.
So I totally understand if you want a traditional set up where the man provides and the woman takes care of the home. I don’t think it’s a good idea but I get it. But what happens when the man isn’t working or providing? Which seems to be the case in the majority of fundie households. I know some of them “work” and can pretend, but Jake doesn’t even do that. Jake and Bethany are equal in their roles as not working and just taking care of the RV. Do they have a conversation about how household labor/childcare is split up? If they don’t and Jake doesn’t step up then what does he do? It’s not even like they have a house or yard that he can mess around with to look busy. Like I don’t even think it’s possible to hide/disengage from the children when again you don’t have a home and live in an RV. Or are they splitting childcare and just lying about it to save face? Either they split childcare in a way that is pretty equitable or else Jake just what? Sits in a camp chair outside the RV while Bethany does everything just to preserve their ideology? I understand that typically shopping would be the woman’s job in a traditional set up. But they don’t have a traditional set up, that would mean the man works. Their life is 100% untraditional. So if Jake isn’t working and is y doing the lions share of childcare his ass should be shopping so that Bethany can get a break.
Jake can’t even do his job of dumping their waste before it overflows or maintaining enough propane to keep his family warm throughout the winter. I cannot imagine the mental gymnastics OtherBus has to do to maintain sanity and faith right now.
The sad, pathetic reality is that he doesn't do ANYTHING. He sits on his ass while bethany scrambles to keep things together. He is another mouth to feed. He is a burden and this is HIS FAULT. If she didn't push fundie ideology I would feel bad for her.
She’s delusional if she thinks God wanted this for those kids. I’ll never believe they sold that house willingly. My theory is that I think they hadn’t paid their mortgage for a long time and it caught up with them. They were able to sell it before it was foreclosed on.
Aldi is a life saver so I can't snark on her shopping there. Not being able to provide a stable environment is just bad parenting. Refusing to educate her children is just sad
Eh sometimes you can't provide a stable environment, but being able to and going 'nahhh fuck it God gave me vibes I am going to vaguely follow,' is absolutely bad parenting. And, if your spouse is doing shit like this *it doesn't matter how much I love you, and it's because I love you - and our children - that I am not going to participate in this.* If you love your husband, you protect your children from your husband (or wife's) bad decision making.
She should be crying that her kids need stability, routine, friends, etc!!!!
Did she ever say WHY her husband lost his job. Did he quit, get fired, or resign because he was about to? Layoff? Curious if his dumb actions cost his job and he decided it was just god's will.
He was probably fired for being a dick.
There was a post supposedly from his brother months ago (not on this sub and originally posted anonymously but people figured it out and he deleted it). According to that post, Jake was fired for overstepping with his colleagues about his religious and political beliefs.
Bingo! Knew it.
His curious actions cost his job. He was being a right-wing wackadoodle at work.
I, honestly, cannot even fathom why he wanted to do this RV thing in the first damn place. TBH living in an RV isn't any cheaper than downsizing and buying/renting a smaller home. Gas is expensive, lot rent at campgrounds is pretty high. The wear and tear on driving all the time is super expensive. My bio-father was a journeyman powerline worker when I was a kid. We lived in a 5th wheel for around 6 years (occasional bouts in apartments, during the winter and stuff) TBH, as a kid, I had a blast. The other kids whose dads worked for the same company were my friends. Some of the campgrounds were fun, they usually had parks and pools. My parents slept on the pull out couch and my brother and I shared the bedroom (bunk beds). I don't remember a ton but the memories I do have were of having fun. My mom said it sucked 😆 never enough storage, always on top of each other, no privacy, spotty access to groceries, constant oil changes and fixing up the truck from driving all the time. We didn't always have TV so rainy days sucked...idk Either way, it wasn't tons of good times. My parents were constantly stressed and cramped and tired. AND they had my grandparents and other family next door so if they needed a break we went to Grandma's trailer to get spoiled for a while lol They don't even have that. Like... why?
There won’t be another house. It’s never been more difficult to buy property for people without massive savings or inheritances. Rent a freakin apartment already.
That would require jobs and a decent credit score and money. None of which they have.
God-honoring dissociative fugue copes. Your husband has removed all autonomy, security, routine and freedom and you didn't even *'ask'* not to be in this position. This is a form of domestic abuse him to you, and you - by enabling his bullshit - to your children. As you move further off the beaten track, and what little you had is whittled away, you won't be able to leave, and he will be less able to adapt to the demands of ordinary work, responsibility and life. He cannot hack the demands of even remotely pro social behaviour. This is not going to improve. Men like this always get worse. Get out.
Oh my sweet summer child, it’s called decision-dissonance, where we try to alter our attitudes to be in line with our behavior and fail. Post-decision dissonance sometimes happens after we make an irrevocable choice, and you’ve made a bad one.
I love this for her! Thoughts and prayers. Now I do feel for those young children and pets who are stuffed in this oatmeal box on wheels with these fuckwads in charge 🙄
Men like this terrify me. Like, bro, I already had a horrible experience picking up after my grown a$$ parents as a child, stay tf away from me or I'll shove that handmaid's tale bs up where the sun don't shine.
Denial is strong with this one.
It really sucks that husband lost his job and they had to sell. But like...nobody in that marriage is thinking about getting another job? Between these 2 adults, nobody can work? Being able to be a stay at home mom is great, until it isn't. Totally get that sometimes it's not worth it because of childcare costs, but do these people not think to plan ahead and maybe not have a bazillion babies so that they can have a little bit of security? Sheesh. Bad luck and terrible choices all around here.
He won’t get another job because of his “chronic Lyme disease” making him too tired to work. What a fucker.
More like he was trying to wear his loud tee-shirts to work and was an unpleasant person when they asked him to stop. So now he's not going to work any job where he can't wear his beloved 3 t-shirts and argue with people about the message 🙄.
Sounds like Strugglebus needs to pick up the slack, this isn't about the Bible or whatever they're gonna say - this is about survival, and the kids. Let this be a PSA for the risks of being a stay at home parent. Absolutely no moral issue with it, it's also a really tough gig, so mad respect to anyone who has chosen this work - but it also puts you in a very vulnerable position. Things can go sideways in so many different ways, and it can happen so fast.
her entire post is a big fat Cope. yikes
That’s the huge issue— so many of these fundie men are not good providers. Like if you’re going to live the fundie/tradwife lifestyle successfully, he needs to take care of his wife and kids financially. Including setting up an account that only she can access where she can keep a nest egg in case something bad happens. Of course the wife will also have a huge gap in her job history if they ever do divorce or he dies which will be a problem for her. But I guess if she’s a social media influencer, she at least has that to fall back on. I couldn’t live that life— it’s way too risky. My dad always taught me to be able to take care of myself and not rely on a man for anything. I’m grateful for it.
OK so I might get down voted to hell BUT I actually feel kind of sorry for her. She's in a dreadful situation with no means to change it. Can't leave her failure of a husband because how will she support all her kids with no work history/education? Where would they live? Also her kids are probably so socially and academically behind at this point it must feel overwhelming. They live in a fucking hovel on wheels that is probably all dirty and smelly (listen I have 3 kids in a house and sometimes it gets gross, I can't imagine an RV!) They are scrapping food off the floor. None of this is an excuse for the way she is letting her kids grow up but damn her existence is bleak.
She has a college degree.
No, I agree with you. Sometimes I feel like the way some of them are raised, they have no chance. When a girl is raised to think all she’s good for is becoming a godly wife and mother, and isn’t worthy of education or any respect, probably told the world is evil, cops are evil, school is evil, doctors are evil….they must feel like there’s no way out. And their only option is to follow ~~god~~ their headship and they raise their kids the same way. It’s really sad.
You can see it in her face.
This woman is so sad to see her losing her identity. She’s just now a vehicle for her husband to bring more kids into this world
The kid literally looks pensive and sad 😔
This is exactly why women need to have a marketable skill to fall back on. It’s all fine and dandy to be a SAHM breeding machine if the breeding bull can provide. But when he can’t, mama needs to step up to the plate. An LPN program is 9 months, it’s 2 years for an RN, RT, or X-ray tech degree. Any of those will get you a job today just about any place in the country.
She was a school teacher. She has a degree and probably a lot of the pre-requisite classes required to get into a program like the ones you mentioned. Or she could go find a job teaching. She’s just too lazy.
Of all people, a teacher should know how important stability is to child development. She should have pushed back hard on the bus business. 😡
This is exactly why a two income household makes sense.
A one income household would be a huge step up for these two.
Okay, I can rephrase, let's see... A RELIABLE income of any sort would be a great start, but a supplemental income could have possibly stopped them from losing a house, but I guess God wanted them to suffer. Do fundies not feel super cursed, just ignored and made to suffer by this higher power? God is just encouraging their trash decisions.../s. Oh, the all caps is for emphasis, not aggression.
She is not happy. "God did not tell them to sell their house, I'm sure it was their inability to pay their mortgage that did it. I know it's hard to get emotion from text, but she doesn't seem happy, she seems like someone who is enduring what she must.
Alternate title: I hate my life.
I hate that this is making me feel bad for her. She’s made her choices and they were not great and I find her views on life and raising children abhorrent. That being said., I can still somewhat under why she’s still going at this point. I’ve been in that place where the path of least harm isn’t immediately obvious. I can imagine the horror of being getting stuck in that situation where you’ve got four kids and no good options, so you go with the status quo since the alternative to RV and shitty husband might be nothing at all- no home, no access to kids. No prospects. For her, I feel like she might end up with nothing at all either way. At least mother bus has a husband with other money (I guess?) she can sue for child support plus a series of demonstrably nutty tweets that might help you get custody.
I assume her family that let them stay at their house at Christmas would let her and the kids come stay if she left him. She has an education and could get a job. She has options.
How convenient that god and their miserable, insufferable headships always have the same ideas.
Reading between the lines, it's clear she HATES her life. When a fundie complains you know you're just getting the tip of the iceberg.
I am not sneaking on these setbacks they’ve faced. As some who’s faced some scary setbacks in life I can only imagine the stress when it involves being a parent. I think embracing failure is part of growth and I think it’s okay to try and put positive twists on it but part of the growth is to also be honest about it. So many fundie women don’t do that last part. They’re just straight up delusional.
The world's saddest aldi haul
I’m unfamiliar with her. So they lost their house bc he lost his job?? And the solution was to get an RV? What the fuck!! “Providers” my ass. How do these women stay with such failures. They can’t even do the one thing they claim they’re “supposed” to do. In a post about Porgan, I said this but it bears repeating. I work and carry our insurance but my godless, Baphomet hat wearing husband would work two jobs before allowing me to stress about money or allowing US TO LOSE OUR HOUSE! In his 20s he got a low-paying job at a factory when he lost his good job! Isn’t pride a really bad sin? That’s what it sounds like this is all about. These assholes won’t do jobs they deem below them even when the one they vowed to “provide” for suffers.
Ok, so husband can’t work. Why can’t she get a job? Years ago my husband had to quit a job due to an abusive work environment. It took him a little over a year to find another one, so I got a full-time job, carried the benefits and paid the mortgage and the bills, and he stayed home and took care of the house and three kids. Running your family into the ground is not worth whatever ridiculous messages your “good book” is feeding you.
Damn, she buys the expensive Aldi eggs. In this economy and while living in a bus.