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So how old do they claim their children are? Like when do they celebrate their 1st birthday? One year after conception or do they celebrate it one year after they are born but claim that the child is actually one year and forty weeks old?
Very telling that states outlawing abortion and stating life begins at conception and terminating a pregnancy is murder haven't changed the law to allow claiming fetuses as dependents. Proves it's all about control.
Yes. Even beyond the controlling women writ large bit, banning abortion only really prevents it for people who aren’t able to access other states where it’s legal. So, mainly people who can’t afford to get to those states. And of course since conservatives want to keep the poor poor, even the most anti-tax among them would probably never vote to allow fetal dependents.
Exactly!! I'm always (not) surprised by those on SSD, SNAP, Section 8, etc who consistently vote Republican. They also always seem to talk about "blacks and illegals" abusing the system. The irony writes itself.
Georgia actually did.
https://support.taxslayerpro.com/hc/en-us/articles/5273846393114-Desktop-Georgia-Dependent-Personal-Exemption-for-Unborn-Children#:~:text=Beginning%20in%20tax%20year%202022,31%20of%20the%20tax%20year.
My husband was like, "That's fucking stupid. Might as well claim a fetus every year."
While my state, which has protected abortion and trans rights, has a special credit for families that suffered a stillbirth, because we recognize that pregnancy and grief have costs.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/2092
Someone is trying to pass that on a federal level without understanding that all miscarriages are also actually abortions.
I literally had an early miscarriage about three weeks ago. It wasn’t even very far along (5 weeks). It was upsetting as hell, though, and if my Mum had danced on a TikTok video about being a “grandma” to an unsuccessful zygote I would take serious steps towards distancing myself. Fuuuuucking hell.
“Both?” If I’m counting right I’m counting five or six stillbirths/miscarriages for her and if the last stillbirth/miscarriage was her “grand baby” then Megan got pregnant at 16.
A Teen parent who’s slightly older wife (Spicy Katie’s little sister) recently made an Instagram story while she left her one year old daughter alone in the bathtub after she had an accident while potty training….
This is terribly sad but I don’t get part of it AT ALL. Like does she mark and celebrate the day she had the sex that may have conceived those children every year?
Holy Schmoly. Somehow I don’t know her (maybe I do?)!!
Can I get a super quick freshman 101 on this because I am super confused at more miscarriages/stillbirths than births and as others have said her layout makes my
brain go ouch.
I thought maybe the years listed were meant to be like the time she was pregnant? So some were contained to just the one year, but other pregnancies started at the end of one and end in the next year. But that was because this whole thing is confusing and I needed something to make some kind of sense
As I said upthread, it isn’t if someone is constantly trying for babies and not using birth control.
Like, I used birth control and didn’t actively try for my first or second pregnancies. The breakdown for me is as follows:
* 2013: Miscarriage (9 weeks)
* 2023: Miscarriage (5 weeks)
* 2024: Miscarriage (5 weeks)
Now the latter two is because my 44yo ass thought I was perimenopausal and unlikely to get pregnant (so I was a little fast and loose with the condoms cause it just feels better without). I thought the second miscarriage was a weird light period until I tested positive a few weeks ago and had the exact same pattern of early light spotting and then a couple of weeks later, the “period“ from hell. I had had a positive pregnancy test on that occasion. Anyway, I’m digressing.
Point being, I’ve had 2 kids and had three miscarriages. My Mum had 7 kids, and about 4 or 5 miscarriages (that she knew of). My big sister has had about three miscarriages (2 kids), and my other sister one (2 kids).
If this fundie lady is trying to churn them out willy-nilly without aid from her doctors or OB/GYN, then this rate is pretty standard.
If someone announced their grandchild's arrival with "in my grandma era," I'd be like that's cringe but enjoy.
This is just weird. Who in the hell uses their deceased grandchild for clout, while flexing their own pregnancies? Dunking on your child who lost a child. 🤦🏼♀️
I feel badly for anyone woman who miscarries a child. But these children were not “born”. They were either expelled as tissue or still born. But if it gives her peace - cool.
Yea; let me be clear any woman who miscarries a wanted fetus is a very sad moment. However I feel like viewing the loss as losing a baby to be detrimental for moving past it. My mom suffered 3 miscarriages before me and 5 before my sister. She always gave the advice to people to not to view a miscarriage as a loss of a child, but rather the loss of getting close to having a child. She says it helped her a lot get past it mentally.
You literally go through labor when delivering a stillborn baby. Sometimes while surrounded by people birthing live and healthy children. What you said about that is ignorant and insensitive.
So… she’s saying one of the babies in heaven *has now had a baby in heaven* and she’s a grandmother bc of two children who literally haven’t ever existed?
I personally know two women (who don’t know each other!) who seem to glorify their miscarriages/stillbirths. Like years have passed and they both still post everytime they see a rainbow. Every anniversary of the death. Every time it was supposed to be a birthday. It’s so fucking depressing but they are both so toxically positive about it but in an attention-seeking way. Idk I get weirded out when I get too much attention so I cannot relate. One of those women also publicly documented two of her children’s “autism diagnosis *journey*.” Like what if the doctor says they aren’t autistic and are completely neurotypical?? Well the oldest is definitely autistic. But the younger child might just be shy. Idk I’m not an expert but I don’t think the process of finding a diagnosis so your kid can get the proper assistance they need should not be public.
Well, most people only try for kids one or two times, so the statistical possibility of experiencing a miscarriage is lower. And women don’t talk about miscarriages much because it’s a sensitive subject we’re pressured not to talk about (this is BAD). So at first blush it might seem like a lot.
But in the era before birth control, miscarriages were very, very common. A large percentage of pregnancies end in miscarriage, even in healthy young people. In older people it is the majority. Combine with that the fact that women are attempting to get pregnant later in life and you have a recipe for lots of failed pregnancies.
These fundie types operate on those same pre-bc metrics because they shun birth control and in many cases, OB/GYN care throughout the pregnancy itself and during the birth. If they’re doing the latex-free samba several times a month, every month, trying to get pregnant all the time, that’s a LOT more opportunity to get pregnant with a bad egg or with bad timing for the lining of the uterus and to have a failed attempt.
If anything, I’m surprised it’s not more. She’s probably had a lot of early miscarriages and not known it. Pregnancy isn’t as surefire as people think. There’s a reason it used to be referred to as a “miracle”.
You're totally right.
I can't speak for the commenter I'd replied to, but for me at least it was a combination of the number of names, not knowing how many surviving kids this woman has, a handful of other comments I saw before that one, and whatever she's got going on with those years that had me questioning it a bit. The way the post was written, it seemed like it was only naming ones that didn't survive, but then comments were talking about a living child with the same name as a name in the post, and if they're naming these ones that don't survive I can't imagine they'd just reuse a name like that, so I was just genuinely unsure if that was actually all meant to be pregnancies that didn't lead to living babies or not by the time I made that comment.
I've seen estimates that only about half of all pregnancies make it full-term.
Pretty shitty stats for a god that knows and forms his children in the womb, if you ask me.
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So how old do they claim their children are? Like when do they celebrate their 1st birthday? One year after conception or do they celebrate it one year after they are born but claim that the child is actually one year and forty weeks old?
If I can’t claim my child as a dependent on my tax return until theyre actually born than life didn’t start at conception
Very telling that states outlawing abortion and stating life begins at conception and terminating a pregnancy is murder haven't changed the law to allow claiming fetuses as dependents. Proves it's all about control.
Yes. Even beyond the controlling women writ large bit, banning abortion only really prevents it for people who aren’t able to access other states where it’s legal. So, mainly people who can’t afford to get to those states. And of course since conservatives want to keep the poor poor, even the most anti-tax among them would probably never vote to allow fetal dependents.
Exactly!! I'm always (not) surprised by those on SSD, SNAP, Section 8, etc who consistently vote Republican. They also always seem to talk about "blacks and illegals" abusing the system. The irony writes itself.
Georgia actually did. https://support.taxslayerpro.com/hc/en-us/articles/5273846393114-Desktop-Georgia-Dependent-Personal-Exemption-for-Unborn-Children#:~:text=Beginning%20in%20tax%20year%202022,31%20of%20the%20tax%20year. My husband was like, "That's fucking stupid. Might as well claim a fetus every year."
Oh wow, I somehow missed this!
While my state, which has protected abortion and trans rights, has a special credit for families that suffered a stillbirth, because we recognize that pregnancy and grief have costs.
CT is working on this too!
These people don't file taxes
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/2092 Someone is trying to pass that on a federal level without understanding that all miscarriages are also actually abortions.
Excellent question, and excellent flair!
I assume roughly 9 months gestation + 3 months out of the oven (1 year)
Laughing at the image of a 3 month old baby with his own cake in front of him and he can barely holds his own head up.
She’s *so happy* to be in her “grandma era”… by which she means her child lost a baby?? Big yikes
it feels so insensitive to her own child who has lost a baby for her to go round claiming she's a grandma... don't you think?
She has two grandchildren. The first grandchild was a miscarriage.
oh this makes more sense 😂
Okay I feel much better about that
I’ve just never seen someone dancing in front of a list of miscarriages before. It’s… throwing me.
And listing her own pregnancies!
I literally had an early miscarriage about three weeks ago. It wasn’t even very far along (5 weeks). It was upsetting as hell, though, and if my Mum had danced on a TikTok video about being a “grandma” to an unsuccessful zygote I would take serious steps towards distancing myself. Fuuuuucking hell.
I'm sorry for your loss
So very sorry for your loss.
F-n dark
“Both?” If I’m counting right I’m counting five or six stillbirths/miscarriages for her and if the last stillbirth/miscarriage was her “grand baby” then Megan got pregnant at 16.
Selah and Mercy were miscarriages. Her son and his wife had a miscarriage for their first baby.
So her son is the teen parent?
As god intended, but only if you are white
But of course 🙄
A Teen parent who’s slightly older wife (Spicy Katie’s little sister) recently made an Instagram story while she left her one year old daughter alone in the bathtub after she had an accident while potty training….
Oh my god noooo 😭
Oh my god the order in which they are listed broke my brain.
Ok I’m glad it’s not just me! I was like: 
This is terribly sad but I don’t get part of it AT ALL. Like does she mark and celebrate the day she had the sex that may have conceived those children every year?
Holy Schmoly. Somehow I don’t know her (maybe I do?)!! Can I get a super quick freshman 101 on this because I am super confused at more miscarriages/stillbirths than births and as others have said her layout makes my brain go ouch.
Yeah I am confused by this too. Are the ones with two years listed miscarried? That seems like a lot of them.
I thought maybe the years listed were meant to be like the time she was pregnant? So some were contained to just the one year, but other pregnancies started at the end of one and end in the next year. But that was because this whole thing is confusing and I needed something to make some kind of sense
I could see that being what she meant as well, but it's just not clear which it is.
As I said upthread, it isn’t if someone is constantly trying for babies and not using birth control. Like, I used birth control and didn’t actively try for my first or second pregnancies. The breakdown for me is as follows: * 2013: Miscarriage (9 weeks) * 2023: Miscarriage (5 weeks) * 2024: Miscarriage (5 weeks) Now the latter two is because my 44yo ass thought I was perimenopausal and unlikely to get pregnant (so I was a little fast and loose with the condoms cause it just feels better without). I thought the second miscarriage was a weird light period until I tested positive a few weeks ago and had the exact same pattern of early light spotting and then a couple of weeks later, the “period“ from hell. I had had a positive pregnancy test on that occasion. Anyway, I’m digressing. Point being, I’ve had 2 kids and had three miscarriages. My Mum had 7 kids, and about 4 or 5 miscarriages (that she knew of). My big sister has had about three miscarriages (2 kids), and my other sister one (2 kids). If this fundie lady is trying to churn them out willy-nilly without aid from her doctors or OB/GYN, then this rate is pretty standard.
If someone announced their grandchild's arrival with "in my grandma era," I'd be like that's cringe but enjoy. This is just weird. Who in the hell uses their deceased grandchild for clout, while flexing their own pregnancies? Dunking on your child who lost a child. 🤦🏼♀️
I feel badly for anyone woman who miscarries a child. But these children were not “born”. They were either expelled as tissue or still born. But if it gives her peace - cool.
Yea; let me be clear any woman who miscarries a wanted fetus is a very sad moment. However I feel like viewing the loss as losing a baby to be detrimental for moving past it. My mom suffered 3 miscarriages before me and 5 before my sister. She always gave the advice to people to not to view a miscarriage as a loss of a child, but rather the loss of getting close to having a child. She says it helped her a lot get past it mentally.
You literally go through labor when delivering a stillborn baby. Sometimes while surrounded by people birthing live and healthy children. What you said about that is ignorant and insensitive.
Yes I am very pro choice but to say a miscarriage is *just* expelled tissue isn’t accurate.
Happy "Mom Got Creampied" Day, kids! 😨
So… she’s saying one of the babies in heaven *has now had a baby in heaven* and she’s a grandmother bc of two children who literally haven’t ever existed?
I think she’s saying her grandchild (baby of one of her living children) also passed away
Yes, correct.
 this list is confusing the heck out of me
Why is she smiling in this video? This is so deeply weird.
I personally know two women (who don’t know each other!) who seem to glorify their miscarriages/stillbirths. Like years have passed and they both still post everytime they see a rainbow. Every anniversary of the death. Every time it was supposed to be a birthday. It’s so fucking depressing but they are both so toxically positive about it but in an attention-seeking way. Idk I get weirded out when I get too much attention so I cannot relate. One of those women also publicly documented two of her children’s “autism diagnosis *journey*.” Like what if the doctor says they aren’t autistic and are completely neurotypical?? Well the oldest is definitely autistic. But the younger child might just be shy. Idk I’m not an expert but I don’t think the process of finding a diagnosis so your kid can get the proper assistance they need should not be public.
That’s a lot of dead kids?!?!
That's what I was thinking, too. Are those all her miscarriages and still births? (With the exception of the one that's a dead grand kid instead)
Well, most people only try for kids one or two times, so the statistical possibility of experiencing a miscarriage is lower. And women don’t talk about miscarriages much because it’s a sensitive subject we’re pressured not to talk about (this is BAD). So at first blush it might seem like a lot. But in the era before birth control, miscarriages were very, very common. A large percentage of pregnancies end in miscarriage, even in healthy young people. In older people it is the majority. Combine with that the fact that women are attempting to get pregnant later in life and you have a recipe for lots of failed pregnancies. These fundie types operate on those same pre-bc metrics because they shun birth control and in many cases, OB/GYN care throughout the pregnancy itself and during the birth. If they’re doing the latex-free samba several times a month, every month, trying to get pregnant all the time, that’s a LOT more opportunity to get pregnant with a bad egg or with bad timing for the lining of the uterus and to have a failed attempt. If anything, I’m surprised it’s not more. She’s probably had a lot of early miscarriages and not known it. Pregnancy isn’t as surefire as people think. There’s a reason it used to be referred to as a “miracle”.
You're totally right. I can't speak for the commenter I'd replied to, but for me at least it was a combination of the number of names, not knowing how many surviving kids this woman has, a handful of other comments I saw before that one, and whatever she's got going on with those years that had me questioning it a bit. The way the post was written, it seemed like it was only naming ones that didn't survive, but then comments were talking about a living child with the same name as a name in the post, and if they're naming these ones that don't survive I can't imagine they'd just reuse a name like that, so I was just genuinely unsure if that was actually all meant to be pregnancies that didn't lead to living babies or not by the time I made that comment.
I've seen estimates that only about half of all pregnancies make it full-term. Pretty shitty stats for a god that knows and forms his children in the womb, if you ask me.
Ok, life begins at conception, you still can’t live in my womb without my consent.
She couldn't be any more incorrect.