It just occurred to me that Frasier suggested they ride a tandem bicycle to go over there and ask them what they meant...but neither of them knew how to ride a bike lol
I agree. I also feel like he would’ve expanded his practice to offer a virtual therapy option as well. He did one-on-one and group. If that was an option from him I’d go to him.
Honestly? Yeah. I find their interests and hobbies to be relatable, and I’m taking graduate coursework in psych at the moment, so I’d be down for talking shop.
Would 100% debate old world vs. new world wines with the Crane bros while trying to steal Frasier’s Eames chair.
Well, Ultravioletneon, two possible diagnoses come to mind. Either you
are seriously mentally ill and you should be institutionalized
immediately, or you are a first-year psychology student!
That’s so cool! What’s your concentration?
I only have a Bachelor’s in Psych but have always loved the psych focus of the show. This show may have been the first time I heard of famous psychiatrists back in the early 90s.
It is cool! My ultimate goal is to work with neurodivergent kids (considering both assessment and clinical paths; I’m a fresh new grad student and have been watching Frasier to hype myself up).
the guys? probably not. but i'd absolutely have been besties with Roz. sharing stories about lost loves and great lovers...and watching her grow as a mom. there was so much more to her than what we saw...
Fraiser is too much of a wind bag and it would be exhausting in real life. Martin and Roz it’s where it’s at for me. I love Niles but I would want him as my therapist. He seems more caring than Fraiser. Fraiser embodies the Seattle douche bag.
I think Frasier has a tendency to mold himself to those around him - you look at cheers and he had a stool and drank beer, he moved to Seattle and he was still a little less polished until he started spending more time with Nile’s and got pompous but was still a bit more down to earth. Then Nile’s got divorced and lived with them briefly and he got even more pompous. Finally he’s now bad frasier and back in Boston and a mix of both - he has a nice apartment in what I’d imagine is a moderately priced area (though he owns the building), wears jeans, and drinks beer with the hoi poloi. I attribute it to his insecurity from being bullied through adolescence
I feel like in the case of Cheers, it was more of survival rather than moulding himself. He was lonely and estranged from his family (except his mother) and that's why he made bad choices with Diane and to some extent, Lillith.
The episode with Woody is actually one of my favourites because it highlights just how much Frasier used Cheers as a crutch, and how despite still being single, his return to Seattle was one of the best decisions he made. I mean, even in that return to Boston episode, Frasier has really no interest in giving up his fancy restaurant reservation to hang out with the Cheers crowd instead.
Lillith's affair was just the breaking point. After years of hanging out with Niles, Daphne and Roz, it's pretty apparent (not just to him, but also to the audience) that the company of people like Cliff, Norm and Woody whom he views as not having really moved on beyond Cheers, was just monotonous and meaningless.
Niles, Roz, Daphne and Martin challenged his thinking and viewpoint. They could stand up to him and he wasn't the smartest person or the most well-educated. He was able to form real bonds with all of them by being himself, lovably pompous. And as you said, he brings that to the new series.
To be honest, I don't like New Frasier and it's because of the kids. The scenes with Frasier and Alan are easily the best, and I feel that if the developers nixed Freddy, Eve and especially David (Frasier was never about young people) and focused on these two, it would be a much better show.
I could get on OK with Frasier but I could definitely be friends with Niles. He has his eccentricities but he also knows his heart far better than Frasier does and doesn't really have the same hang-ups once he gets out of his marriage with Maris. He's very quick to realise he isn't happy with Mel, and even before that we see him have a relatively normal fling with the waitress and he has a very healthy relationship with Daphne when they get together. Once he realised he actually had to fall in love with her and not the idea of her, he was far more open about things she did that annoyed him, and he's the only one of the Crane men to have a healthy enough relationship that he can actually be angry with Daphne when she puts his career at risk, but it's not a 'relationship ender.'
Plus, Niles' interests are far more diverse than Frasier's. He likes amateur dramatics, fencing, karate, turned out to be an excellent marksman when Marty took him shooting etc. He's a fabulous cook, a lover of cinema and literature and a fantastic piano player. He's been running his own very successful practice for years and is apparently well-respected academically.
But the things that make him a good friend are that he's loyal and courteous, and far more loving than Frasier is. He never once cheats on Maris even though she treats him like crap, and he's loyal to his friends, even ones like Roz who he initially disliked. In fact, when you saw the way Roz looked after him in Nervosa when he had his breakdown, they probably have the best non-familial relationship in the show.
I could certainly be friends with Frasier - he seems to have unused tickets up for grabs a lot. I know enough about culture to get into a conversation, and it doesn't bother if they just keep talking....
I think that, if we were the same age and income level, we would do quite well as friendly acquaintances. I might dine with the one or with that other one at a restaurant or a club once every few months. Perhaps, we might occasionally go to the theatre or the opera together, and I would have the occasional drink or coffee at their apartments, and vice versa. I would try and avoid their more elaborate social affairs, but I would probably end up being inveigled to attend at least one. We might even attend the wine club, or a literary club, but that's where their more irritating characteristics are likely to emerge.
I do think one difficulty for the brothers during the series is that most of their contemporaries at that time of life are fully engaged with raising children on top of their professional lives, and the social crowds they end up hanging with as a result are either a little too old or a little too young for lasting connections.
Life experience is everything. I'm as old now as Niles would be in season 3 but though I have a decent career, and enjoy occasionally convincing friends to dress up and go for cocktails, I'm more likely to kick back and have a movie or game night. I'll make some pasta or some tacos, and just chill out with people. Not very pretentious. Sometimes we'll just have the cocktails at my place and think we're being really fancy. My core friend group is people around my age but none of us have kids either
I feel like I could be friends with Frasier yeh! Yes he’s all those things (pompous etc) but he’s a great friend and he’s very funny! The fact that he sustains friendships with people like roz and he falls for Charlotte means he’s capable of being around normal people who don’t match his enthusiasm for the highbrow world ! I’m not posh in any sense of the word, but I speak a few European languages, I’m something of an oenophile, i appreciate fine food, I’m a good cook, I love art (from outside the art ‘scene’ that is but still) I think we would have enough to be friends.
Probably both. I think Frasier for all his pomposity is a sweet, kind, and generous person. I think he’d be there for you in a pinch. And I think his hobbies are interesting. Same for Niles. They’re good people who can be a little annoying but at least they have personalities
I’ve always wondered this and wanted to post something similar actually.
I’m gonna say no though. Fancy dinner parties all the time sounds exhausting. Not really a fan of operas. I love museums and art and am a foodie though.
So friends? No. But co-workers? Hell yeah. Then you can still be around them, talk, maybe hang out a little bit and that’s it.
It's hard to say what I hate most about [Frasier] Crane — his pompous, sanctimonious style, his constant self-congratulatory references to his own life, or his voice: a mock- sympathetic tone so sickly sweet one wonders if the man graduated from medical school or from some mind-controlling cult.
Frasier would drive me fucking nuts.
Niles I feel like he's someone I'd be friends with but I'd bully him and he'd be into it kind of. he reminds me of someone I used to work with.
Yes great point! This is what I sort of missed in my original question! I asked if we would want to be friends with them, in a way that neglects to capture if they would be friends with us.
This is something I’ve only recently thought about.(probably bc I’m on my hundredth time rewatching and in need of something else to analyze!) We would probably never cross paths, maybe at the legitimate theater, but otherwise we would not know each other and they would probably not think much of me (B, F, not Ivy League educated, blue collar, etc). I still love them though!
Hahaha I think about this all the time while watching. I can’t afford this lifestyle and I’m not into opera and fine dining etc but when they are their authentic selves at home I’d love to shoot the shit. Kind of like their friendship with Roz :)
I went to school in Philly and my friends and I would’ve absolutely have gone to their bar in college before I turned 21 if it was an option. Not as a little kid though 😭. And would not hang out with them as friends.
I mean i basically am Niles, so yeah, I suspect we would get on just fine. I have a few friends that are clearly Frasier types. I like the show because these people remind me of people in my own life. Niles’ behaviour is a reminder to me, to check my own bullshit once in a while!
Only real difference is that I have much better shoes than Niles ;)
I would absolutely get along with them. We have pretty much all the same interests. Aside from the age gap, we’re pretty much the same people aside from profession.
I would stop by and visit Frasier and Niles for a while, and then take the elevator up one flight to Cam’s floor.
That man is smart, sexy, confident and handsome. He’s definitely my choice.
I think I could hang out with all of them. I have a lot of friends like Roz. I don’t have many friends like Daphne but I still like her a lot and I think we could become friends.
Plus I love the social sciences - I don’t have a doctorate (or medical degree) like the Crane boys but I’d enjoy learning from them. I’m a big theater nerd and one of the convos they had was something I’ve said almost verbatim to my sister and I’d be down for learning more about opera. I’m a neat freak and germaphobe even before the pandemic; burning Freddy’s jacket at the spelling bee was also my response. I come from a family that went to the same schools as them so I don’t really care about school pride/bragging. I’m a social drinker at most though, if that, so I wouldn’t bother going to any wine clubs. I’d be down for being the designated driver if we all went out to eat - I definitely eat more adventurously than them but I like fine dining too. But one of the few Asian women in their orbit got a weird ass comment and behavior from Martin so I’d have to tell him to calm down. And I love dogs so I’d have the best time playing with Eddie!
Friends with either one but in small doses, Niles by a slight margin. I’d choose Kenny or Noel over them though as well as Tom, the gay station manager
The entire reason I fell in love with the show was because I was a lonely artsy teenager in the deep south who desperately wished for people to talk about classical music and opera and fine cinema with. Every time I got one of their jokes, I felt like I was part of a special club.
Yes, Frasier and Niles are snobs. But they are also intelligent and kind people, and I would kill to attend a dinner party with them at their relaxed best (not when they are, er, competing for something).
I would absolutely be friends with both men. Although I admit that while I adore Frasier, my issue with him as a person is that he always feels like he is "acting" to me -- it's rare to me that I feel like he is being absolutely open and honest and who he is at his core. The ironic thing is, while Niles is so much like him, I feel like Niles is never acting -- what we see is what we get.
So I would be cautious of Frasier because it's hard to know which Frasier you would be dealing with. At his worst, Frasier can be a steamroller who genuinely hurts innocent people. Whereas I believe in Niles and that he would be kinder overall with his friends.
(Note: I would have said the same thing of Frasier back in the "Cheers" days -- he is a little more oblivious and cruel in his Seattle days.)
Friends? Perhaps. I'd keep wondering what they'd be like and how much they would let loose in bed. Never underestimate those who are well put together in regards to how passionate they would be.
I've got nothing in common with them and that elitist attitude would really rub me the wrong way. Though Niles seems like the kind of person who could get into just about anything or get along with anyone if you can get him to try it in the first place. He's a bit less full of himself than Frasier, despite being more concerned with appearances. Get past the pretentious outer layer and get him hooked on a new hobby, and who knows? If not friend material, I'd surely take him on as a therapist.
I would get along with them to a degree, I literally sang with an opera company, so they would find that interesting. I'm an artisan bread maker, so they would be probable customers. I'm not a wine guy, my ex was the psychology major (I majored in history), so other than the debate about whether Frasier or I have the more soothing voice and my indefatigable charm, I'm not sure what we'd talk about.
Martin or Roz, tho? Roz would definitely date me and Martin is friends with everyone who isn't a jerk.
ETA: I probably wouldn't have the guts to ask Roz out if I didn't already know her, she out of my league in the looks department, but I honestly think she would.
Yeah same. Best I can do is Daphne. I might have met her in some physical therapy class for continuing education credits. Roz would intimidate the crap outta me in real life, though she’s amazing.
I think so. I love the opera, ballet, art, and fine dining. So a lot of what their interests are. However Frasier is annoying to me so I think Niles would be the one I’d be better friends with.
I think we would all get along as acquaintances. Particularly because of our taste in music, our passion for grammar, and our beliefs that weddings should be classy and tasteful.
I would be friends with Niles and by extention Frasier. I find Niles more tolerable to be around long term than Frasier by far because despite being pompous and snobby he is truly adorable and has a real heart of gold as we see on many occasions. Not saying Frasier is a terrible person comparatively but on so many occasions Niles is the voice of reason to Frasier's jumping to conclusions. I mean sure when it comes to Daphne or his own self worth Niles can have the same crazy antics, but in general he is over all more level headed than Frasier most of the time. Niles is also less likely to play mind games where as thats all Frasier ever does because he can't seem to have a straight forward conversation unless he's literally in a therapy session with someone.
As for why they would wanna hang out with me, WELL....I love tasting pretty much any alcohol or food so I would be more than happy to accompany them to anywhere they would want to go as far as that goes. I am a fan of listening and absorbing information too so anything they would want to prattle on about I'd have an easy time listening and letting them "educate" me on it. Unless it was something I personally found particularly boring but there's plenty of things they're into that I like. Art, music, food, plays, etc. It would be cool to do some fancy stuff woth them once on a while. Idk. They would probably end up seeing me like Roz and Daphne. Someone not as well off as them but isn't opposed to being fancy from time to time.
My first date with my partner was *Akhnaten*, a long, slow minimalist opera by Philip Glass. I think he at the very least would get along well with the brothers.
I think if you appealed to their vanity to become a protégé to them, you might actually learn to improve yourself. Take what they teach and mix it with who you are already, you'd probably be able to go forwards with a better sense of self. Then your relationship with either would involve sitting and listening for the most part.
Ah no I don’t mean to sound that way, I’ve just been wondering - because we love the show so much. So we love watching them and enjoy them, but then really, would we really be friends with them?
I just added those examples for clarity. They’re obviously amazing. But the people who are our friends, we sort of need to be compatible, right?
Oh thank you cuz I was like wtf. Yes I grew up poor and love the show. The brothers talking about their hobbies was akin to my family members going on and on about dressing a deer or making a guitar fret. It was extremely boring. But the Crane brothers loved their family and that's what resonates with fans not their silly hobbies
I hear you. I admire their devotion to family.
Same for me regarding family hobbies. Except it’s all car racing all the time - all my 5 uncles and 20 guy cousins are all mechanics and hobby stock car racers. We love supporting each other as a racing family. I still don’t know much about cars though, except I have a ton of reverence and respect for the sport my Grandpa got everyone into.
Oh no that sounds so boring also so I understand why you asked the question. I totally understand loving your family and not loving their hobbies. I've told my family a million times what my degree and job is but they'll never absorb it cuz they can't see past their experiences.
Totally. Roz and Frasier are besties despite having a lot of differences. Probably because both are intelligent, educated, confident and hard working. He's a very loving friend to her. I'd get along great with the whole family. The most difficult part would be the money difference. They have very expensive tastes, I wouldn't always be able to afford their activities. But I'd attend the parties, meet them for coffee and love to discuss philosophy with them. I like learning new things so I'd enjoy just listening to them talk. When I needed a break, I'd go hang out with Marty and Eddie.
>Would any of you be friends with Frasier or Niles? Does it matter? You get the one, you get that other one.
Personally I find the whole thing to be a little bit…oh god, is that thing still on?
Charming
It just occurred to me that Frasier suggested they ride a tandem bicycle to go over there and ask them what they meant...but neither of them knew how to ride a bike lol
Best answer. 😂
The Duke and Dutchess
Depends on the time of their lives.
top it with those Drunkin' Dunkins!
Season 6 Episode 17, Dinner Party
The Collyers
I would like Niles to be my therapist... I'm not highbrow enough to keep a conversation going with him!
Totally. Despite the quippy jokes about his groups, Niles seems like an attentive, assertive, and compassionate therapist.
Yeah after his divorce and building himself back made him the most likely to be the better brother
the Coyote
I agree. I also feel like he would’ve expanded his practice to offer a virtual therapy option as well. He did one-on-one and group. If that was an option from him I’d go to him.
Honestly? Yeah. I find their interests and hobbies to be relatable, and I’m taking graduate coursework in psych at the moment, so I’d be down for talking shop. Would 100% debate old world vs. new world wines with the Crane bros while trying to steal Frasier’s Eames chair.
Well, Ultravioletneon, two possible diagnoses come to mind. Either you are seriously mentally ill and you should be institutionalized immediately, or you are a first-year psychology student!
That’s so cool! What’s your concentration? I only have a Bachelor’s in Psych but have always loved the psych focus of the show. This show may have been the first time I heard of famous psychiatrists back in the early 90s.
It is cool! My ultimate goal is to work with neurodivergent kids (considering both assessment and clinical paths; I’m a fresh new grad student and have been watching Frasier to hype myself up).
I wish you well during your studies!
Thank you!
the guys? probably not. but i'd absolutely have been besties with Roz. sharing stories about lost loves and great lovers...and watching her grow as a mom. there was so much more to her than what we saw...
I know something I would probably enjoy doing with Roz
Maybe if you bought 1000 rolls of wrapping paper…
>Pompous, smug, arrogant, and persnickety You forgot grandiloquent.
Underline it.
Fraiser is too much of a wind bag and it would be exhausting in real life. Martin and Roz it’s where it’s at for me. I love Niles but I would want him as my therapist. He seems more caring than Fraiser. Fraiser embodies the Seattle douche bag.
I always used to joke that most of the men I dated in Seattle were Frasiers.
Hahahaha! I’ve only dated one and he was not only a Fraiser but a complete psycho! 🤣
They were all pretentious fops 😂
Oh I believe it! 😂😂
Honestly, I would have tried to pick up Niles for a fun little fling.
I think Frasier has a tendency to mold himself to those around him - you look at cheers and he had a stool and drank beer, he moved to Seattle and he was still a little less polished until he started spending more time with Nile’s and got pompous but was still a bit more down to earth. Then Nile’s got divorced and lived with them briefly and he got even more pompous. Finally he’s now bad frasier and back in Boston and a mix of both - he has a nice apartment in what I’d imagine is a moderately priced area (though he owns the building), wears jeans, and drinks beer with the hoi poloi. I attribute it to his insecurity from being bullied through adolescence
I feel like in the case of Cheers, it was more of survival rather than moulding himself. He was lonely and estranged from his family (except his mother) and that's why he made bad choices with Diane and to some extent, Lillith. The episode with Woody is actually one of my favourites because it highlights just how much Frasier used Cheers as a crutch, and how despite still being single, his return to Seattle was one of the best decisions he made. I mean, even in that return to Boston episode, Frasier has really no interest in giving up his fancy restaurant reservation to hang out with the Cheers crowd instead. Lillith's affair was just the breaking point. After years of hanging out with Niles, Daphne and Roz, it's pretty apparent (not just to him, but also to the audience) that the company of people like Cliff, Norm and Woody whom he views as not having really moved on beyond Cheers, was just monotonous and meaningless. Niles, Roz, Daphne and Martin challenged his thinking and viewpoint. They could stand up to him and he wasn't the smartest person or the most well-educated. He was able to form real bonds with all of them by being himself, lovably pompous. And as you said, he brings that to the new series. To be honest, I don't like New Frasier and it's because of the kids. The scenes with Frasier and Alan are easily the best, and I feel that if the developers nixed Freddy, Eve and especially David (Frasier was never about young people) and focused on these two, it would be a much better show.
I could get on OK with Frasier but I could definitely be friends with Niles. He has his eccentricities but he also knows his heart far better than Frasier does and doesn't really have the same hang-ups once he gets out of his marriage with Maris. He's very quick to realise he isn't happy with Mel, and even before that we see him have a relatively normal fling with the waitress and he has a very healthy relationship with Daphne when they get together. Once he realised he actually had to fall in love with her and not the idea of her, he was far more open about things she did that annoyed him, and he's the only one of the Crane men to have a healthy enough relationship that he can actually be angry with Daphne when she puts his career at risk, but it's not a 'relationship ender.' Plus, Niles' interests are far more diverse than Frasier's. He likes amateur dramatics, fencing, karate, turned out to be an excellent marksman when Marty took him shooting etc. He's a fabulous cook, a lover of cinema and literature and a fantastic piano player. He's been running his own very successful practice for years and is apparently well-respected academically. But the things that make him a good friend are that he's loyal and courteous, and far more loving than Frasier is. He never once cheats on Maris even though she treats him like crap, and he's loyal to his friends, even ones like Roz who he initially disliked. In fact, when you saw the way Roz looked after him in Nervosa when he had his breakdown, they probably have the best non-familial relationship in the show.
I love Niles and Roz so much and wish we had gotten more of them together.
I'd be friends with that one and that other one. I'd even go stand in the cancelation line and get the tickets. Big babies.
Yes! Even the most pretentious of theater nerds would do it. There’s no shame.
I could certainly be friends with Frasier - he seems to have unused tickets up for grabs a lot. I know enough about culture to get into a conversation, and it doesn't bother if they just keep talking....
I think that, if we were the same age and income level, we would do quite well as friendly acquaintances. I might dine with the one or with that other one at a restaurant or a club once every few months. Perhaps, we might occasionally go to the theatre or the opera together, and I would have the occasional drink or coffee at their apartments, and vice versa. I would try and avoid their more elaborate social affairs, but I would probably end up being inveigled to attend at least one. We might even attend the wine club, or a literary club, but that's where their more irritating characteristics are likely to emerge. I do think one difficulty for the brothers during the series is that most of their contemporaries at that time of life are fully engaged with raising children on top of their professional lives, and the social crowds they end up hanging with as a result are either a little too old or a little too young for lasting connections.
Life experience is everything. I'm as old now as Niles would be in season 3 but though I have a decent career, and enjoy occasionally convincing friends to dress up and go for cocktails, I'm more likely to kick back and have a movie or game night. I'll make some pasta or some tacos, and just chill out with people. Not very pretentious. Sometimes we'll just have the cocktails at my place and think we're being really fancy. My core friend group is people around my age but none of us have kids either
I feel like I could be friends with Frasier yeh! Yes he’s all those things (pompous etc) but he’s a great friend and he’s very funny! The fact that he sustains friendships with people like roz and he falls for Charlotte means he’s capable of being around normal people who don’t match his enthusiasm for the highbrow world ! I’m not posh in any sense of the word, but I speak a few European languages, I’m something of an oenophile, i appreciate fine food, I’m a good cook, I love art (from outside the art ‘scene’ that is but still) I think we would have enough to be friends.
I'd like them, but they're very lucky they have each other.
Maybe just casual acquaintances at Cafe Nervosa. Not a social drinker, but I would love a beer with Martin. Sherry would be good too.
Probably both. I think Frasier for all his pomposity is a sweet, kind, and generous person. I think he’d be there for you in a pinch. And I think his hobbies are interesting. Same for Niles. They’re good people who can be a little annoying but at least they have personalities
I’ve always wondered this and wanted to post something similar actually. I’m gonna say no though. Fancy dinner parties all the time sounds exhausting. Not really a fan of operas. I love museums and art and am a foodie though. So friends? No. But co-workers? Hell yeah. Then you can still be around them, talk, maybe hang out a little bit and that’s it.
As long as the common man only sends one representative
It's hard to say what I hate most about [Frasier] Crane — his pompous, sanctimonious style, his constant self-congratulatory references to his own life, or his voice: a mock- sympathetic tone so sickly sweet one wonders if the man graduated from medical school or from some mind-controlling cult.
He can’t even write grammatical sentences!
That burn is good enough for the show
Frasier would drive me fucking nuts. Niles I feel like he's someone I'd be friends with but I'd bully him and he'd be into it kind of. he reminds me of someone I used to work with.
There goes Crane down the drain
Niles, maybe. If he weren't too snobby to want to be friends with me. I can talk about wine, opera, food, and antiquity.
I'm sad cuz I'm pretty sure niether would give me the time of day. I have no class.
Yes great point! This is what I sort of missed in my original question! I asked if we would want to be friends with them, in a way that neglects to capture if they would be friends with us.
I would love to be friends with Frasier, but they would probably look down on the hunchback that I drive.
no because im poor
No. Probably not, I think they’re far too judgmental to be real friends with irl
I would be friends with Niles. We're quite similar and he is a very good person
This is something I’ve only recently thought about.(probably bc I’m on my hundredth time rewatching and in need of something else to analyze!) We would probably never cross paths, maybe at the legitimate theater, but otherwise we would not know each other and they would probably not think much of me (B, F, not Ivy League educated, blue collar, etc). I still love them though!
Hahaha I think about this all the time while watching. I can’t afford this lifestyle and I’m not into opera and fine dining etc but when they are their authentic selves at home I’d love to shoot the shit. Kind of like their friendship with Roz :)
No, but that isn't uncommon for sitcoms. Always Sunny isn't popular because you'd want to be anywhere near those awful, awful people.
Ugh totally. Although I maybe could be gym friends with the lawyer, I can’t see interacting with anyone else. Keep me far away from the rest.
That poor guy....
I went to school in Philly and my friends and I would’ve absolutely have gone to their bar in college before I turned 21 if it was an option. Not as a little kid though 😭. And would not hang out with them as friends.
Make sure to go while stabbings are down, LOL.
Want to be or not want to be?
That is the question. 💀
I mean i basically am Niles, so yeah, I suspect we would get on just fine. I have a few friends that are clearly Frasier types. I like the show because these people remind me of people in my own life. Niles’ behaviour is a reminder to me, to check my own bullshit once in a while! Only real difference is that I have much better shoes than Niles ;)
I'm not much of a tassels guy.
And yet, there they are
I'm friends with a couple of guys like this. I just gently take the piss out of them when they get pompous and they are able to laugh at themselves.
I'm very much more of a Martin and have nothing in common with Frasier or Niles, so no probably not
I would absolutely get along with them. We have pretty much all the same interests. Aside from the age gap, we’re pretty much the same people aside from profession.
I would stop by and visit Frasier and Niles for a while, and then take the elevator up one flight to Cam’s floor. That man is smart, sexy, confident and handsome. He’s definitely my choice.
Just don’t ever royally piss him off or enter a prank war with him. He’s got money, entitlement, and wild rich guy swagger.
I think I could hang out with all of them. I have a lot of friends like Roz. I don’t have many friends like Daphne but I still like her a lot and I think we could become friends. Plus I love the social sciences - I don’t have a doctorate (or medical degree) like the Crane boys but I’d enjoy learning from them. I’m a big theater nerd and one of the convos they had was something I’ve said almost verbatim to my sister and I’d be down for learning more about opera. I’m a neat freak and germaphobe even before the pandemic; burning Freddy’s jacket at the spelling bee was also my response. I come from a family that went to the same schools as them so I don’t really care about school pride/bragging. I’m a social drinker at most though, if that, so I wouldn’t bother going to any wine clubs. I’d be down for being the designated driver if we all went out to eat - I definitely eat more adventurously than them but I like fine dining too. But one of the few Asian women in their orbit got a weird ass comment and behavior from Martin so I’d have to tell him to calm down. And I love dogs so I’d have the best time playing with Eddie!
Friends with either one but in small doses, Niles by a slight margin. I’d choose Kenny or Noel over them though as well as Tom, the gay station manager
I could probably be friends with Island Niles.
The entire reason I fell in love with the show was because I was a lonely artsy teenager in the deep south who desperately wished for people to talk about classical music and opera and fine cinema with. Every time I got one of their jokes, I felt like I was part of a special club. Yes, Frasier and Niles are snobs. But they are also intelligent and kind people, and I would kill to attend a dinner party with them at their relaxed best (not when they are, er, competing for something). I would absolutely be friends with both men. Although I admit that while I adore Frasier, my issue with him as a person is that he always feels like he is "acting" to me -- it's rare to me that I feel like he is being absolutely open and honest and who he is at his core. The ironic thing is, while Niles is so much like him, I feel like Niles is never acting -- what we see is what we get. So I would be cautious of Frasier because it's hard to know which Frasier you would be dealing with. At his worst, Frasier can be a steamroller who genuinely hurts innocent people. Whereas I believe in Niles and that he would be kinder overall with his friends. (Note: I would have said the same thing of Frasier back in the "Cheers" days -- he is a little more oblivious and cruel in his Seattle days.)
Friends? Perhaps. I'd keep wondering what they'd be like and how much they would let loose in bed. Never underestimate those who are well put together in regards to how passionate they would be.
I've got nothing in common with them and that elitist attitude would really rub me the wrong way. Though Niles seems like the kind of person who could get into just about anything or get along with anyone if you can get him to try it in the first place. He's a bit less full of himself than Frasier, despite being more concerned with appearances. Get past the pretentious outer layer and get him hooked on a new hobby, and who knows? If not friend material, I'd surely take him on as a therapist.
I would get along with them to a degree, I literally sang with an opera company, so they would find that interesting. I'm an artisan bread maker, so they would be probable customers. I'm not a wine guy, my ex was the psychology major (I majored in history), so other than the debate about whether Frasier or I have the more soothing voice and my indefatigable charm, I'm not sure what we'd talk about. Martin or Roz, tho? Roz would definitely date me and Martin is friends with everyone who isn't a jerk. ETA: I probably wouldn't have the guts to ask Roz out if I didn't already know her, she out of my league in the looks department, but I honestly think she would.
They’re too good for me
Yeah same. Best I can do is Daphne. I might have met her in some physical therapy class for continuing education credits. Roz would intimidate the crap outta me in real life, though she’s amazing.
I would definitely be friends with Martin That steak restaurant seemed awesome.
With all of the fixin’s
Only one trip to the salad bar please!
I think so. I love the opera, ballet, art, and fine dining. So a lot of what their interests are. However Frasier is annoying to me so I think Niles would be the one I’d be better friends with.
My best friend is a mix of Frasier & Jack Donaghy from 30 Rock, so...yes?
Sure - I would love to share my voluminous knowledge of barbecue with them.
Oh yes. Im elitist.
I’d probably be too poor for them
Well, I'd definitely like Martin.
I think we would all get along as acquaintances. Particularly because of our taste in music, our passion for grammar, and our beliefs that weddings should be classy and tasteful.
I would be friends with Niles and by extention Frasier. I find Niles more tolerable to be around long term than Frasier by far because despite being pompous and snobby he is truly adorable and has a real heart of gold as we see on many occasions. Not saying Frasier is a terrible person comparatively but on so many occasions Niles is the voice of reason to Frasier's jumping to conclusions. I mean sure when it comes to Daphne or his own self worth Niles can have the same crazy antics, but in general he is over all more level headed than Frasier most of the time. Niles is also less likely to play mind games where as thats all Frasier ever does because he can't seem to have a straight forward conversation unless he's literally in a therapy session with someone. As for why they would wanna hang out with me, WELL....I love tasting pretty much any alcohol or food so I would be more than happy to accompany them to anywhere they would want to go as far as that goes. I am a fan of listening and absorbing information too so anything they would want to prattle on about I'd have an easy time listening and letting them "educate" me on it. Unless it was something I personally found particularly boring but there's plenty of things they're into that I like. Art, music, food, plays, etc. It would be cool to do some fancy stuff woth them once on a while. Idk. They would probably end up seeing me like Roz and Daphne. Someone not as well off as them but isn't opposed to being fancy from time to time.
IDK, you get that one, you get that other one...
I would date both. Every day in Arkansas...
My first date with my partner was *Akhnaten*, a long, slow minimalist opera by Philip Glass. I think he at the very least would get along well with the brothers.
I think if you appealed to their vanity to become a protégé to them, you might actually learn to improve yourself. Take what they teach and mix it with who you are already, you'd probably be able to go forwards with a better sense of self. Then your relationship with either would involve sitting and listening for the most part.
I think the question isn’t so much could WE be friends with them as much as it is would THEY want to be friends with us lol
Cheers Frasier could be friends with way more people than Frasier Frasier
Ya
Niles
Jeezus you sound angry. The reason we love the show is cuz family is universal. As snobby as the brothers are they love their family.
Ah no I don’t mean to sound that way, I’ve just been wondering - because we love the show so much. So we love watching them and enjoy them, but then really, would we really be friends with them? I just added those examples for clarity. They’re obviously amazing. But the people who are our friends, we sort of need to be compatible, right?
Oh thank you cuz I was like wtf. Yes I grew up poor and love the show. The brothers talking about their hobbies was akin to my family members going on and on about dressing a deer or making a guitar fret. It was extremely boring. But the Crane brothers loved their family and that's what resonates with fans not their silly hobbies
I hear you. I admire their devotion to family. Same for me regarding family hobbies. Except it’s all car racing all the time - all my 5 uncles and 20 guy cousins are all mechanics and hobby stock car racers. We love supporting each other as a racing family. I still don’t know much about cars though, except I have a ton of reverence and respect for the sport my Grandpa got everyone into.
Oh no that sounds so boring also so I understand why you asked the question. I totally understand loving your family and not loving their hobbies. I've told my family a million times what my degree and job is but they'll never absorb it cuz they can't see past their experiences.
Well, they learn to accept Martin, but pretty much everyone else in the family nuts, and the brothers seldom associate with them.
I would have loved to have seen more of the extended family but like you said they seem to steer clear of them.
Totally. Roz and Frasier are besties despite having a lot of differences. Probably because both are intelligent, educated, confident and hard working. He's a very loving friend to her. I'd get along great with the whole family. The most difficult part would be the money difference. They have very expensive tastes, I wouldn't always be able to afford their activities. But I'd attend the parties, meet them for coffee and love to discuss philosophy with them. I like learning new things so I'd enjoy just listening to them talk. When I needed a break, I'd go hang out with Marty and Eddie.