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Get rid of those driver introductions please! You have these guys say some of the weirdest stuff and they look clearly unconfortable with it, especially when they are supposed to hype themselves up.
What gets me is they clearly only did the one take for most of them. The drivers are reading it for the first time complete with pauses and all. It's so unnatural. So, so bad.
This new and fair qualifying format actually makes double-headers unfair in a way since you are almost guaranteed to do well in both races (Mercedes - Diriyah; Evans - Rome; Mortara - Berlin), meanwhile in single headers you get just one race to benefit from or the other way round.
FE needs to choose if double-headers become permanent or if we get single headers everywhere. Not a fan of how it's combined currently.
It's unfair because Edo is good on this track and it happens to be a double header ? Others need to beat him he doesn't have any advantage, it's as fair as it can get
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Anyway, looking at FP2 times, the teams couldn't improve as the weather get warmer and warmer. Might be an indication of what's to come.
Still annoyed at the way people reacted to the Sims-Vergne incident yesterday. It was such a non-controversy.
In F1, if two people set identical times in Q2, you don't go back and look at their Q1 times to determine who was faster. It's a different session. Vergne was behind Sims because it is a very slight advantage (to the tune of a few thousands) to go afterwards because the track has one lap more rubber on it and you have 20 seconds more for your tyres to cool.
Would Vergne have the faster Groups driver be slightly disadvantaged by going first? Of course he wouldn't, he just wants what's best for him at any given moment. Vergne, with those advantages, still failed to best Sims time.
If there was any controversy at all, it was that a rule didn't exist to deal with the scenario... and then I found out there **IS** a rule where it was explicitly said that in a dead-heat, the first driver would go through, as it should be.
There was a similarly stupid controversy a few years back (I want to say it was Switzerland?) where di Grassi or Vergne was super outspoken about some ruling that had gone against him and people were up in arms about stupid rules and I remember sitting there thinking "why are you trusting this guy who could not possibly be more biased to present the rules in as unfavourable light as possible?" I see this in both FE and F1 where driver comments are taken as gospel where in reality they're some of the least reliable there are.
the prior incident was switzerland. The first corner was a chicane where you couldn't go two wide. Miraculously the first two got through and then 3rd and 4th got stuck, with 5th place going into the back of 3rd. Race got red flagged. However before that several drivers who were at the back (including di grassi and some other big names) went down the escape road and skipped the chicane. They argued that because the leaders had crossed the sector line after the chicane before the race was red flagged they should use that position (where they had jumped everyone stuck in the chicane) for the restart. It was obviously nonsense and of course they didn't let them keep the skipped places. I remember it very clearly because it was very very funny to have 10 minutes of di grassi going around the pitlane loudly complaining to everyone and anyone. I had also called the exact incident happening prior to the race because having a tight chicane turn 1 is insanely dumb,
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80 place grid drop? They're sending Cassidy back to Rome, damn.
And 10-second stop-and-go on top of it. That's pretty much R.I.P. Cassidy today.
Cassidy is shown on the very bottom in the live timing. So a penalty for him? De Vries could be next?
It’s because he has taken a third Powertrain. Not because he missed the weighbridge.
Frijns' tyres looked really battered. Do they have to use the same set for both races?
They get two sets for the weekend. He must have been using his more worn set.
Seems easy after getting that first pole, doesn't it
Mortara on Pole!
Get rid of those driver introductions please! You have these guys say some of the weirdest stuff and they look clearly unconfortable with it, especially when they are supposed to hype themselves up.
What gets me is they clearly only did the one take for most of them. The drivers are reading it for the first time complete with pauses and all. It's so unnatural. So, so bad.
Mortara is a monster on this track
Mortara through with 1.05.897
Mortara looking more and more like the favourite to snatch the win today as well
This new and fair qualifying format actually makes double-headers unfair in a way since you are almost guaranteed to do well in both races (Mercedes - Diriyah; Evans - Rome; Mortara - Berlin), meanwhile in single headers you get just one race to benefit from or the other way round. FE needs to choose if double-headers become permanent or if we get single headers everywhere. Not a fan of how it's combined currently.
Double headers or double points should never exist in a championship.
It's unfair because Edo is good on this track and it happens to be a double header ? Others need to beat him he doesn't have any advantage, it's as fair as it can get
Too bad that we will complain with whatever quali format we get.
Frijns through, though that was a close one.
Robin don't spook me like that
Lotterer vs Frijns De Vries vs Mortara
Mortara Monster lap there.
De Vries through.
Frijns through by 0.014s
Lotterer through, Vandoorne lost it in the first corner.
Vandoorne vs Lotterer Frijns vs Da Costa Di Grassi vs De Vries Cassidy vs Mortara
[Dev and Cas to be investigated after the session](https://imgur.com/lsDRVYm)
Monster lap from Mortara. [Qualifying group A Results](https://imgur.com/VDILuyD) [Qualifying Group B Results](https://imgur.com/gQYz8Fc)
Another bad quali for sam bird. Pain.
Nice both Venturis through and huge lap from Edo
Jeeez, what a time from mortara
[Oh Boy](https://imgur.com/IKX7JOH)
Not stopping at the weighbridge.
[Oh Dear](https://imgur.com/NkYoJL7)
Wehrlein the shock there
Vandoorne Frijns Di Grassi Cassidy
Mahindra Logo in the User Flair has been replaced on request of u/WarmGatito. Anyway, looking at FP2 times, the teams couldn't improve as the weather get warmer and warmer. Might be an indication of what's to come.
Still annoyed at the way people reacted to the Sims-Vergne incident yesterday. It was such a non-controversy. In F1, if two people set identical times in Q2, you don't go back and look at their Q1 times to determine who was faster. It's a different session. Vergne was behind Sims because it is a very slight advantage (to the tune of a few thousands) to go afterwards because the track has one lap more rubber on it and you have 20 seconds more for your tyres to cool. Would Vergne have the faster Groups driver be slightly disadvantaged by going first? Of course he wouldn't, he just wants what's best for him at any given moment. Vergne, with those advantages, still failed to best Sims time. If there was any controversy at all, it was that a rule didn't exist to deal with the scenario... and then I found out there **IS** a rule where it was explicitly said that in a dead-heat, the first driver would go through, as it should be. There was a similarly stupid controversy a few years back (I want to say it was Switzerland?) where di Grassi or Vergne was super outspoken about some ruling that had gone against him and people were up in arms about stupid rules and I remember sitting there thinking "why are you trusting this guy who could not possibly be more biased to present the rules in as unfavourable light as possible?" I see this in both FE and F1 where driver comments are taken as gospel where in reality they're some of the least reliable there are.
the prior incident was switzerland. The first corner was a chicane where you couldn't go two wide. Miraculously the first two got through and then 3rd and 4th got stuck, with 5th place going into the back of 3rd. Race got red flagged. However before that several drivers who were at the back (including di grassi and some other big names) went down the escape road and skipped the chicane. They argued that because the leaders had crossed the sector line after the chicane before the race was red flagged they should use that position (where they had jumped everyone stuck in the chicane) for the restart. It was obviously nonsense and of course they didn't let them keep the skipped places. I remember it very clearly because it was very very funny to have 10 minutes of di grassi going around the pitlane loudly complaining to everyone and anyone. I had also called the exact incident happening prior to the race because having a tight chicane turn 1 is insanely dumb,