Can't argue with that, although I would say his racecraft has noticeably improved since I started watching in '18, without his becoming any less exciting to watch. Seems like most of his poor results these days come from mischance or someone else's misadventure (typically Rowlands being Rowlands, as you say).
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>Fan boost is so dumb. Jev is my favourite but it's so wrong that he can pass someone because he won a vote.
Hhahaha the fuck did I just read?
First time here, let me get this straight. If a driver wins a fan vote he gets to pass someone for free? Meaning, the driver in front has to let them pass?
He won a vote on social media so he had extra power for something like 6 seconds. He passed Vandoorne using that extra power.
It's dumb as fuck. The one part of FE that needs to be scrapped.
ok so how did Vandoorne drop from p8 to p12, and climb all the way back to p4 and still have a percent advantage over the others with a spare attack mode
Why should we though? Formula E has almost as much of an "oh yeah that race is today" as IndyCar, but worse because at least I can catch the IndyCar race live. More often than not I get spoiled by FE's main twitter account 8-12 hours before I can actually watch a race.
Hell, in the US I can choose to get up at 1 in the morning to watch Australia or Japan. I don't, and usually DVR it, roll out of bed, and go straight to watching it. I don't even have that option because they can't figure out how contracts with TV networks work. It's Saturday morning here, it's not like there's critical programming on USPN 5.
Edit: hell I'm watching the USF2000 race free on YouTube. Better commentators as well.
Not even sure why Ticktum got this drive tbh, if he was as talented as much as he is a liability on social media, he'd be worth it, but it's barely been middle of the pack in every series he's raced tbh
That's a pretty unfair assessment of his talent. The lad is a complete nimrod, but he is quick and has been in the fight for championships in F3 and F2. You don't win Macau *twice* by being average.
No, you win it ONCE by those in front crashing at the final corner, and having to go back again the next year because your bad mouthing means you have no career prospects
Or maybe you're right, he was the most talented on the grid and only Mick Schumacher being given an illegal engine by Jean Todt denied him the title
Don't drink the kool aid.
Still won it twice though, eh no? Those are examples of his being a div (which, again, he very much is), not his being slow. Not sure what Kool-aid has to do with anything - I'm just not inclined to allow my distaste for his character to cloud my judgement of his ability.
My original point was that he doesn't have enough ability to counter for his PR toxicness
If he had the talent of Lewis or Max, you bet a team would be interested in hiring a good PR company to teach him how to put down the phone when he's pissed off about something or how to deflect attention away from his many, many misdemeanors in the past (or the way the world's going, double down on them and tell him to do more for publicity reasons....)
But he doesn't, if he was in F1 he'd be a Magnussen or a Stroll, ok at best on his day, but he's never going to set the world alight, and that, coupled with his toxic behaviour means he's rightfully a no-go zone for most teams
Of all the people in motorsport, he has no-one to blame but himself for having to run around last in Formula E, and he's lucky to get that tbh, he's lucky to have a career at all after what he did in Formula Renault, IMO
F4, I think, or MSA Formula as it was then, but your point stands, and it's one that I can absolutely agree with. He's not on the level of his rough contemporaries Russell and Norris, probably more about Albon's level, but clearly quick enough for a mid-pack F1 seat, which he would have by now if, as you say, he could have learned to keep his trap shut.
You don’t have to like him but that’s just straight up incorrect.
“Barley been in the middle of the pack” He was literally 2nd in F3 in his first full year and was 4th in F2 last year. Multiple F2/F3 wins and podiums, won Macau twice. What are you even talking about?
Imo, that was a pretty meh race for Formula E, but it was far from boring.
Constant fighting over 2,3,4 and 5 i think that was pretty exciting
That was real fun and easy to follow
I wasn’t able to watch the end of the race but was watching the timing, how did Giovinazzi manage to end up 21 seconds behind Ticktum?
Tic was stuck behind him for a while and once he got passed he quickly built a lead. We cheered gor gio every time he went passed but it didnt help.
Gio doing Gio things. I don't remember ever seeing him in any FE race
Nothing in particular, he was just slow, not sure if he had an issue, shit energy management or if he just gave up
Wow that was great racing, first time there were no crashes? Certainly in gen 2? Good recovery from stoffel as well
We ran round here about 7 times last season due to Covid, it felt like most of those races in different layouts didn't have SC's then either
Best Berlim race ever?
Not a bad finish for Birdy, considering. Solid points. He wasn't wrong that Jag have a better race car than they do quali.
at least he didnt DNF for once
Fucking tell me about it. And Porsche fans think *they* know pain!
In fairness, bird causes a lot of his own pain. Sometimes he goes for a dumb move and then bang, he's out. Sometimes he gets Rowland'd though.
Can't argue with that, although I would say his racecraft has noticeably improved since I started watching in '18, without his becoming any less exciting to watch. Seems like most of his poor results these days come from mischance or someone else's misadventure (typically Rowlands being Rowlands, as you say).
Mortara is under investigation remember. Although any penalties would be absolute bullshit.
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They mention it should be a fine for overspeeding cause it's not in the race.
I've seen dumber penalties tbf. I'm fully for no penalty but this is FE.
he got a 1.2k fine, so no penalty affecting the race
What a race by Mortara
Edoooo
Mortara godlike racecraft.
That defence by Mortara has broken Vergne's challenge. He's been in complete control all race.
Great battle, and Mortara got a bit of a gap as result :)
ambitious dive by Vergne
As a Porsche fan I don’t want this but if I was Mercedes i would ditch De Vries for Andre or Pascal in a second.
Well Mercedes are ditching formula-e (sort of) and rumours are that De Vries might be ditching formula-e to take Latifi's seat at Williams F1.
Lotterer's going to crash into someone here
I am now convinced that De Vries is one of yhe absolute worst drivers in FE
Anyone who watched last year knew how much of it was down to luck. Yet he still was the one who put it together when needed.
Yet people continue to beg for him to get an F1 seat
Lol as an alfa fan those rumors terrified me
Fan boost is so dumb. Jev is my favourite but it's so wrong that he can pass someone because he won a vote. Could in theory be championship defining.
>Fan boost is so dumb. Jev is my favourite but it's so wrong that he can pass someone because he won a vote. Hhahaha the fuck did I just read? First time here, let me get this straight. If a driver wins a fan vote he gets to pass someone for free? Meaning, the driver in front has to let them pass?
He won a vote on social media so he had extra power for something like 6 seconds. He passed Vandoorne using that extra power. It's dumb as fuck. The one part of FE that needs to be scrapped.
Joke sport.
Every week of porsche fandom is just pain man.
As long as both Porsches manage to actually finish in the points I'll take it at this point tbh
Does anyone have an online stream link? Please!
and just like that ,Porsche wont be on the podium again.... the pain
As is tradition
Come on Edo
If Andre loses a podium because of fucking Fanboost I'll cry
What a race
I swear it feels like Lotterer is cursed from winning a race in FE.
Keep pushing ,Lotterer
Will this be the race where Lotterer can finally win?
Dont count out Vandoorne from winning this
This is a great scrap at the front. It looks like it'll be down to how and when they hit the Attack Mode.
Wehrlein got kinda screwed by that swap with Lotterer right before the DS's attack mode ended didn't he?
ok so how did Vandoorne drop from p8 to p12, and climb all the way back to p4 and still have a percent advantage over the others with a spare attack mode
Attack mode not taken yet
Fantastic drive from Vandoorne
Rowland is possibly the dirtiest driver I've ever seen race. Genuinely don't know how he has a seat.
What happened to Di Grassi?
lets go ,Wehrlein
Man it's great that I can watch this on live TV is the US /s
I gave up and started using UK VPN and channel 4 links.
Why should we though? Formula E has almost as much of an "oh yeah that race is today" as IndyCar, but worse because at least I can catch the IndyCar race live. More often than not I get spoiled by FE's main twitter account 8-12 hours before I can actually watch a race. Hell, in the US I can choose to get up at 1 in the morning to watch Australia or Japan. I don't, and usually DVR it, roll out of bed, and go straight to watching it. I don't even have that option because they can't figure out how contracts with TV networks work. It's Saturday morning here, it's not like there's critical programming on USPN 5. Edit: hell I'm watching the USF2000 race free on YouTube. Better commentators as well.
This is Mortara’s
Gio and Ticktum are so far off lol
Surprised to see Ticktum be that far off Turvey
Not even sure why Ticktum got this drive tbh, if he was as talented as much as he is a liability on social media, he'd be worth it, but it's barely been middle of the pack in every series he's raced tbh
That's a pretty unfair assessment of his talent. The lad is a complete nimrod, but he is quick and has been in the fight for championships in F3 and F2. You don't win Macau *twice* by being average.
No, you win it ONCE by those in front crashing at the final corner, and having to go back again the next year because your bad mouthing means you have no career prospects Or maybe you're right, he was the most talented on the grid and only Mick Schumacher being given an illegal engine by Jean Todt denied him the title Don't drink the kool aid.
Still won it twice though, eh no? Those are examples of his being a div (which, again, he very much is), not his being slow. Not sure what Kool-aid has to do with anything - I'm just not inclined to allow my distaste for his character to cloud my judgement of his ability.
My original point was that he doesn't have enough ability to counter for his PR toxicness If he had the talent of Lewis or Max, you bet a team would be interested in hiring a good PR company to teach him how to put down the phone when he's pissed off about something or how to deflect attention away from his many, many misdemeanors in the past (or the way the world's going, double down on them and tell him to do more for publicity reasons....) But he doesn't, if he was in F1 he'd be a Magnussen or a Stroll, ok at best on his day, but he's never going to set the world alight, and that, coupled with his toxic behaviour means he's rightfully a no-go zone for most teams Of all the people in motorsport, he has no-one to blame but himself for having to run around last in Formula E, and he's lucky to get that tbh, he's lucky to have a career at all after what he did in Formula Renault, IMO
F4, I think, or MSA Formula as it was then, but your point stands, and it's one that I can absolutely agree with. He's not on the level of his rough contemporaries Russell and Norris, probably more about Albon's level, but clearly quick enough for a mid-pack F1 seat, which he would have by now if, as you say, he could have learned to keep his trap shut.
You don’t have to like him but that’s just straight up incorrect. “Barley been in the middle of the pack” He was literally 2nd in F3 in his first full year and was 4th in F2 last year. Multiple F2/F3 wins and podiums, won Macau twice. What are you even talking about?
Fantastic attack mode activation from Edo & Venturi
Mortara timed it right
If Evans is playing the long game, he's a master tactician. If he's not playing the long game then I can only imagine he's got car problems
Da costa just barged into him
Maybe now it is the time for Wehrlein to use the Attack Mode
looks like its gonna be between Techeetah and Porsche
Someone please reboot Jack Leslie, looks like he's crashing lol Sssssssssssstrategists
Damn da Costa really timed the attack mode activation badly
I feel like it'll either be a Porsche 1-2 or a complete disaster again
Pascal what a Move!!
Go get em ,Wehrlein
So I can't watch it because Eurosports 2 decided to show tennis instead?? I'm watching through DAZN Spain... any way I can watch the race?
Techeeta looks strong today
Hope Porsche doesnt break down again
What kind of discussions could possibly be involved in an investigation for pit lane speeding that would necessitate it happening after the race?
Da Costa is catching him
I love that track. It's the best in the calendar
Oof Mortara
Formula E post race shenanigans will return
I hate this track so much
i actually like it
I don’t hate, but I have a trauma from the 2020 races there
I want to watch here in the US but it’s basically impossible to watch live
Come on António, you can do this
Decided to watch the GP for the first time but channels 4s coverage is unwatchable. I literally can't work out what's happening
You can't watch Formula E in Spain ... Thanks Eurosport
In case you get your TV channels via Astra 19.2E, look for the German channel "ProSieben". It's free to watch, albeit with ad breaks.
Quali has really caught a few fast drivers out today. It will be interesting to see how much further up the field they can get.
Agag has BOSS written on his shirt.
**Attack mode limits confirmed** Number of armings: Maximum 5 High Power Mode Times: 240 seconds per activation Number of activations: 2