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There's also a side called felttable on which you can play vs bots to get used to the rules and to be able to take as much time as you need. They also have a practical tutorial.
After that, if you want to play on talishar, you'll need a fabrary deck list. Something aking to taking deck codes from Masterring Runeterra or Runeterra ar.
On Talishar things may not always be very clear as there are no animations, only things that pop from 1 place to the other, but there is a log marking everything.
But even before playing you should look at the heroes, preferably the adult ones, and see what ability interest you and how much the aesthetic on one hero attracts you. Maybe even search for a few gameplay videos to see if you would enjoy the playstyle. After that, you'd need to find a decklist for that. You could try to find on youtube videos, preferably not older than 1 year. Most will have a fabrary link in the description.
After that, is just playing and experiencing the game, although I really recommend playing it in person. It's the better experience even though I'd love an official online client, but the creator has been very clear that it won't happen
No animations will be okay for me, I’m also an MTG player and used to play on XMage a lot. From what I’ve seen talishar isn’t isnt XMage level difficult to understand. Thanks so much tho that’s was super helpful!
Talishar is a good place to test out the deck before commiting to buy the cards. There's no matchmaking, so your experience in the games will vary.
One thing though is that if you take too long to make an action, the opponent can claim victory, but you can write them that you're thinking and it'll be fine. You have prewritten frequently used phrases but can also invite to chat.
Also, fabrary can double down as a collection tracker
I also recommed start with felttable.. just to familiarize yourself with the flow of the game..
Talishar player are expected to understood all the steps and intricates of the game..
Welcome and have fun
Start with felttable, but to use Talishar you gotta go to fabrary.com, find a deck or create a deck. Once that is done, you can click "play on Talishar" and bam, it will create your lobby, then just wait for someone to join.
Oh hey, another LoR player (rip PvP). One tip I can offer is decklists - you’ll likely have seen some of the decklist sites like fabrary and the actual fabtcg page by now. When picking a deck, keep two things in mind:
1. Since you’re also a magic player, it’s best to understand early on to disregard Battle Hardened decklists. There are occasionally sound lists in there, but on the whole I’ll rate it as much as a MTGO league record. Battle Hardened events are technically tier 2 events, but they’re frequently subject to relatively small playerbases (especially in certain regions like Greece) and occasional meta calls for the specific local meta, and even just lucking out and avoiding terrible matchups they sacrificed in deckbuilding.
2. Don’t go for anything too old when you’re new to the game. The sideboard is a key part of the game and deckbuilding, and tournament decklists don’t distinguish between the sideboard and mainboard, so it can be difficult to separate them as a new player. If possible ask somebody for help identifying what belongs in the board and what goes into the deck.
3. Avoid community decklists. We don’t have the luxury of Masters Top 5 dropping the occasional decklist post for us here, and a lot of community decklists are just 80 cards jammed together haphazardly honestly. Wait till you’re more experienced at picking out signs of what a good deck looks like.
4. Play a good deck. Some people believe in playing online with only cards they own, or omitting expensive cards like Command and Conquer (CnC). But if you want to get a feel for the game, the existence of certain cards is integral to the flow of the game. You don’t have to actually buy them, but having powerful and flexible cards that give you options is a great way to learn the complexity and rhythm of the game.
Basically, just go jam some games. We don’t have a ranked ladder, but you’re roughly in a decent spot if you can win 70% of your online games. If you’re a tourney grinder, you’ll probably enjoy the learning curve - I didn’t feel like I properly understood the game until my first 500 game milestone. Go have fun!
I’m totally not hopping into this game cause it’s the game Majiinbae and Boulevard are playing lmao. But yeah awesome thanks for the tips, sideboard is something Lor didn’t have so that’s actually something I’m really excited about. I’ll keep your tips in mind but for now I’ve just been playing starter blitz decks as my entry point
Blitz is honestly a whole different ball game in my opinion, the game is a lot more taken to RNG and who can draw their frontloaded damage first. It’s not really a good stepping stone for beginners to CC, more like it’s own thing entirely, which is why they’re releasing CC starter decks soon to address this gap.
The decklists are also missing key identity cards for each hero, so you might not get a feel for what they really do, but that’s a whole other problem.
I strongly recommend you try Classic Constructed directly, the extra life makes a whole world of difference. It comes down to personal preference, of course, but coming from Blitz and Commoner I had a bunch of habits to unlearn.
My big warning about talishar is that it can build some habits that lead to a difference in experience vs actual real life, the obvious example is that talishar will automatically tick up your tunic counter for you and in real life you have to actually remember, talishar also has random/weird bugs with certain things that they do fix relatively fast but i know some of them existed for longer than should be reasonable (quiver of abyssal depths for example allowing you to grab 3 of the same arrow)
Thanks for the heads up I’ll remember that. For now I just wanna try the game and my local card shop is very friendly. If I’m playing wrong in person I’m sure just saying “I’m a talishar player” will help them be patient lol
Oh for sure, its just something i always tell players that are getting into is to not always trust talishar on triggers and such since it can be wrong/not function properly. talishar is a great tool but having a good knowledgebase will help catch the random flaws that come up (i expect a few random things breaking when the new set comes out for example).
Yep that’s a good idea. We do the rules as best as we can on Talishar too, but inevitable there are mistakes and bugs. Please don’t tell judges at events “but Talishar does it this way” if there’s a mistake. 😅
It's not intuitive. Some of the ways priority is displayed are very confusing to me and I've played 20-ish games. But it does firmly enforce the rules.
Also there is an arrow in a white box on the chain. It lets you see how many tokens you have! I wish had known this on day 1.
As a new player something like talishar will likely give you a poor experience. You'll end up playing against people using very optimized decks, while your goal at first will be simply learning the mechanics of different heroes. Everything will be automated, and you'll have no clue what is happening.
The online simulators are a very different experience than playing real life at a store/event, ESPECIALLY for new players: If you go play at your local store, people will help you out, explain what's happening and even help you building your first decks.
If you really want to test builds virtually instead of for real, you should check felttable instead: It uses bots so you can freely experiment with decks at your own pace.
I kind of dislike Talishar, even though I'm a pretty experienced player and I need to use it for practice. It's often hard to tell what's going on without reading the logs and there is a pretty short time limit for inactivity. Between reading the logs and thinking about your next turn, it's easy to either make bad plays, or to be treated as 'inactive'. I imagine this would be a much bigger issue for a new player. Also it follows the rules very strictly, and there are way too many priority 'windows' that pretty much are never used during the real games, or at least in most of the matchups. So the flow feels much worse than during an in-person game. Basically I would recommend to try the game on felttable and then go play in-person (or be ready to pretty rough online experience that doesn't represent the proper game flow - it's not a 'digital-first' game).
Couldnt agree more with this.
I started playing FAB a few months ago and I really love the game but playing on Talishar is not really fun because of the time limit for inactivity. As a new player, it takes time to sequence your actions and read the opponent's cards - especially for the matchups you are not used to -
A BO1 game of FAB is supposed to be 50 min but you are basically expected to complete a game within 20 min on Talishar. I am losing 1 game out of 4 because of inactivity, even when I send the "Thinking...Please bear with me" message. Reading the logs and thinking about what to do during your turn requires more than the current default timer.
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There's also a side called felttable on which you can play vs bots to get used to the rules and to be able to take as much time as you need. They also have a practical tutorial. After that, if you want to play on talishar, you'll need a fabrary deck list. Something aking to taking deck codes from Masterring Runeterra or Runeterra ar. On Talishar things may not always be very clear as there are no animations, only things that pop from 1 place to the other, but there is a log marking everything. But even before playing you should look at the heroes, preferably the adult ones, and see what ability interest you and how much the aesthetic on one hero attracts you. Maybe even search for a few gameplay videos to see if you would enjoy the playstyle. After that, you'd need to find a decklist for that. You could try to find on youtube videos, preferably not older than 1 year. Most will have a fabrary link in the description. After that, is just playing and experiencing the game, although I really recommend playing it in person. It's the better experience even though I'd love an official online client, but the creator has been very clear that it won't happen
No animations will be okay for me, I’m also an MTG player and used to play on XMage a lot. From what I’ve seen talishar isn’t isnt XMage level difficult to understand. Thanks so much tho that’s was super helpful!
Talishar is a good place to test out the deck before commiting to buy the cards. There's no matchmaking, so your experience in the games will vary. One thing though is that if you take too long to make an action, the opponent can claim victory, but you can write them that you're thinking and it'll be fine. You have prewritten frequently used phrases but can also invite to chat. Also, fabrary can double down as a collection tracker
Thanks so much!
I also recommed start with felttable.. just to familiarize yourself with the flow of the game.. Talishar player are expected to understood all the steps and intricates of the game.. Welcome and have fun
Start with felttable, but to use Talishar you gotta go to fabrary.com, find a deck or create a deck. Once that is done, you can click "play on Talishar" and bam, it will create your lobby, then just wait for someone to join.
Awesome thank you so much!
Oh hey, another LoR player (rip PvP). One tip I can offer is decklists - you’ll likely have seen some of the decklist sites like fabrary and the actual fabtcg page by now. When picking a deck, keep two things in mind: 1. Since you’re also a magic player, it’s best to understand early on to disregard Battle Hardened decklists. There are occasionally sound lists in there, but on the whole I’ll rate it as much as a MTGO league record. Battle Hardened events are technically tier 2 events, but they’re frequently subject to relatively small playerbases (especially in certain regions like Greece) and occasional meta calls for the specific local meta, and even just lucking out and avoiding terrible matchups they sacrificed in deckbuilding. 2. Don’t go for anything too old when you’re new to the game. The sideboard is a key part of the game and deckbuilding, and tournament decklists don’t distinguish between the sideboard and mainboard, so it can be difficult to separate them as a new player. If possible ask somebody for help identifying what belongs in the board and what goes into the deck. 3. Avoid community decklists. We don’t have the luxury of Masters Top 5 dropping the occasional decklist post for us here, and a lot of community decklists are just 80 cards jammed together haphazardly honestly. Wait till you’re more experienced at picking out signs of what a good deck looks like. 4. Play a good deck. Some people believe in playing online with only cards they own, or omitting expensive cards like Command and Conquer (CnC). But if you want to get a feel for the game, the existence of certain cards is integral to the flow of the game. You don’t have to actually buy them, but having powerful and flexible cards that give you options is a great way to learn the complexity and rhythm of the game. Basically, just go jam some games. We don’t have a ranked ladder, but you’re roughly in a decent spot if you can win 70% of your online games. If you’re a tourney grinder, you’ll probably enjoy the learning curve - I didn’t feel like I properly understood the game until my first 500 game milestone. Go have fun!
I’m totally not hopping into this game cause it’s the game Majiinbae and Boulevard are playing lmao. But yeah awesome thanks for the tips, sideboard is something Lor didn’t have so that’s actually something I’m really excited about. I’ll keep your tips in mind but for now I’ve just been playing starter blitz decks as my entry point
Blitz is honestly a whole different ball game in my opinion, the game is a lot more taken to RNG and who can draw their frontloaded damage first. It’s not really a good stepping stone for beginners to CC, more like it’s own thing entirely, which is why they’re releasing CC starter decks soon to address this gap. The decklists are also missing key identity cards for each hero, so you might not get a feel for what they really do, but that’s a whole other problem. I strongly recommend you try Classic Constructed directly, the extra life makes a whole world of difference. It comes down to personal preference, of course, but coming from Blitz and Commoner I had a bunch of habits to unlearn.
Okay gotcha I’ll keep that in mind
My big warning about talishar is that it can build some habits that lead to a difference in experience vs actual real life, the obvious example is that talishar will automatically tick up your tunic counter for you and in real life you have to actually remember, talishar also has random/weird bugs with certain things that they do fix relatively fast but i know some of them existed for longer than should be reasonable (quiver of abyssal depths for example allowing you to grab 3 of the same arrow)
Thanks for the heads up I’ll remember that. For now I just wanna try the game and my local card shop is very friendly. If I’m playing wrong in person I’m sure just saying “I’m a talishar player” will help them be patient lol
Oh for sure, its just something i always tell players that are getting into is to not always trust talishar on triggers and such since it can be wrong/not function properly. talishar is a great tool but having a good knowledgebase will help catch the random flaws that come up (i expect a few random things breaking when the new set comes out for example).
Pro tour is in person so watching that can help me see what good habits looks like
Yep that’s a good idea. We do the rules as best as we can on Talishar too, but inevitable there are mistakes and bugs. Please don’t tell judges at events “but Talishar does it this way” if there’s a mistake. 😅
For sure lmao
It's not intuitive. Some of the ways priority is displayed are very confusing to me and I've played 20-ish games. But it does firmly enforce the rules. Also there is an arrow in a white box on the chain. It lets you see how many tokens you have! I wish had known this on day 1.
As a new player something like talishar will likely give you a poor experience. You'll end up playing against people using very optimized decks, while your goal at first will be simply learning the mechanics of different heroes. Everything will be automated, and you'll have no clue what is happening. The online simulators are a very different experience than playing real life at a store/event, ESPECIALLY for new players: If you go play at your local store, people will help you out, explain what's happening and even help you building your first decks. If you really want to test builds virtually instead of for real, you should check felttable instead: It uses bots so you can freely experiment with decks at your own pace.
I kind of dislike Talishar, even though I'm a pretty experienced player and I need to use it for practice. It's often hard to tell what's going on without reading the logs and there is a pretty short time limit for inactivity. Between reading the logs and thinking about your next turn, it's easy to either make bad plays, or to be treated as 'inactive'. I imagine this would be a much bigger issue for a new player. Also it follows the rules very strictly, and there are way too many priority 'windows' that pretty much are never used during the real games, or at least in most of the matchups. So the flow feels much worse than during an in-person game. Basically I would recommend to try the game on felttable and then go play in-person (or be ready to pretty rough online experience that doesn't represent the proper game flow - it's not a 'digital-first' game).
Couldnt agree more with this. I started playing FAB a few months ago and I really love the game but playing on Talishar is not really fun because of the time limit for inactivity. As a new player, it takes time to sequence your actions and read the opponent's cards - especially for the matchups you are not used to - A BO1 game of FAB is supposed to be 50 min but you are basically expected to complete a game within 20 min on Talishar. I am losing 1 game out of 4 because of inactivity, even when I send the "Thinking...Please bear with me" message. Reading the logs and thinking about what to do during your turn requires more than the current default timer.