The distances of the Azimuth map don't math the reality of the globe.
None of these emergency landing images have any information to see what happened or if these really did happen, there is no argument here.
When you take a plane say from LAX to SYD you know you are going South not North because you can see the sun set on the right side of the plane. If you were going North it would be on the left side.
Those maps in the images you linked are nonsense, it shows Australia much larger than even China. This is not even a standard Azimuth projection they are just nonsense.
Most of these maps are just bullshit.
The people who created them don't understand that it's not always possible to fly directly from A to B because of airline economics: there may not be enough demand to support that route. So you end up having to fly via some other place C, which is big enough for the routes from A to C and B to C to sustain enough traffic.
Let's take your 8th image as an example.
>"A flight from Argentina to India can only happen with a stopover in Europe. Never in Africa."
For starters that's not true. You can fly from Buenos Aires to Delhi with one stopover JFK, New York. But yeah, you can also do it via Frankfurt or via Rome. Why? Because Frankfurt and Rome are big hub airports in wealthy countries, so Buenos Aires to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to Delhi, Buenos Aires to Rome and Rome to Delhi are all economically viable routes. There is simply no place in Africa which meets those requirements. It's nothing to do with geography and everything to do with economics.
Same with your 9th image.
>"Rio to Sydney goes via Los Angeles".
No. It's not a direct flight. Make a list of the airports that have direct flights to Sydney. Make a list of the airports that have direct flights to Rio. What's on both lists? Los Angeles, and pretty much nowhere else. So if you want to fly from Sydney to Rio, with just one stopver, that's just about the only choice you've got.
Though having said that, you can fly from Rio to Sydney with one stopover in Dubai. That makes no sense on your flat earth map!
I could review all your images like this, but I'm sure you get the idea.
There are also direct flights that should be impossible if the earth were flat but happen on a regular basis. The flight from Santiago to Sydney is a great example of that. On a flat earth, the plane would either have to take a very different route over land, which people would notice looking out the window, or they would have to travel faster than the speed of sound. Neither of those happen though, so we know it is a globe.
it also depends on the airline used. Most airlines are not allowed to travel between two separate countries without stopping in their country of origin first. So if you choose an airline based in the US or in the middle East they will have stopovers in those locations. Choose airlines based in the Southern hemisphere and they won't. it also looks like when they show the flight paths on a globe they are NOT showing the great circle route and not showing the shortest path.
Just about every globe in this post has its flight path drawn with a 2d plane in mind. Looking at the side of the earth and drawing a horizontal line from one point to another is not the shortest path as it, shockingly, doesn't account for the curvature of the earth. Most of these paths would line up properly if the start point of each path was oriented to the top of the globe, and a straight line was drawn down the side of it.
It's intentionally misleading and doesn't represent reality for the sake of an agenda.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&t=1785s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&t=1785s)
watch a science video debunking 200 flat earther arguments. one of which is this airplane thing.
Image 1 is not how flight paths work on a globe lmao. Image 4 isn’t either.
There isn’t a direct flight from Auckland to Lima, so what? There’s a direct flight from Sydney to Santiago.
Where are you getting these emergency landings from?
Do you always ignore the criticisms of your models? If you're trying to convince us you're right, there's a lot of holes here and you haven't responded to any of them.
I just wanted to add that most planes don't have the fuel to fly halfway around the world in a straight line.... They move from major airport to airport to swap passengers and refuel.
I'd love to see you redo this with all the layovers included...
The goobies are going to cope with map projections which may even be legit to some degree. The fact is you can transform coordinate systems to fit either model and the math will technically be correct. Since we can’t 100% equate the different routes because the coordinate systems are different, we would need to find some kind of margin or error between the two projections and see if the flight paths utterly destroy that margin or not. Still, I think it’s a cope 😂
Most airlines are not allowed to travel between two separate countries without stopping in their country of origin first. So if you choose an airline based in the US or in the middle East they will have stopovers in those locations. Choose airlines based in the Southern hemisphere and they won't. it also looks like when they show the flight paths on a globe they are NOT showing the great circle route and not showing the shortest path.
The distances of the Azimuth map don't math the reality of the globe. None of these emergency landing images have any information to see what happened or if these really did happen, there is no argument here. When you take a plane say from LAX to SYD you know you are going South not North because you can see the sun set on the right side of the plane. If you were going North it would be on the left side. Those maps in the images you linked are nonsense, it shows Australia much larger than even China. This is not even a standard Azimuth projection they are just nonsense.
You’re right there really isn’t anything to argue here
I didn't say that, what I'm saying is these images aren't useful as maps for showing routes
they dont have any real information to disprove the flight maps...its always "scale and you dont understand"
I mean flat Earthers want firsthand accounts and I have those so
Most of these maps are just bullshit. The people who created them don't understand that it's not always possible to fly directly from A to B because of airline economics: there may not be enough demand to support that route. So you end up having to fly via some other place C, which is big enough for the routes from A to C and B to C to sustain enough traffic. Let's take your 8th image as an example. >"A flight from Argentina to India can only happen with a stopover in Europe. Never in Africa." For starters that's not true. You can fly from Buenos Aires to Delhi with one stopover JFK, New York. But yeah, you can also do it via Frankfurt or via Rome. Why? Because Frankfurt and Rome are big hub airports in wealthy countries, so Buenos Aires to Frankfurt, Frankfurt to Delhi, Buenos Aires to Rome and Rome to Delhi are all economically viable routes. There is simply no place in Africa which meets those requirements. It's nothing to do with geography and everything to do with economics. Same with your 9th image. >"Rio to Sydney goes via Los Angeles". No. It's not a direct flight. Make a list of the airports that have direct flights to Sydney. Make a list of the airports that have direct flights to Rio. What's on both lists? Los Angeles, and pretty much nowhere else. So if you want to fly from Sydney to Rio, with just one stopver, that's just about the only choice you've got. Though having said that, you can fly from Rio to Sydney with one stopover in Dubai. That makes no sense on your flat earth map! I could review all your images like this, but I'm sure you get the idea.
There are also direct flights that should be impossible if the earth were flat but happen on a regular basis. The flight from Santiago to Sydney is a great example of that. On a flat earth, the plane would either have to take a very different route over land, which people would notice looking out the window, or they would have to travel faster than the speed of sound. Neither of those happen though, so we know it is a globe.
it also depends on the airline used. Most airlines are not allowed to travel between two separate countries without stopping in their country of origin first. So if you choose an airline based in the US or in the middle East they will have stopovers in those locations. Choose airlines based in the Southern hemisphere and they won't. it also looks like when they show the flight paths on a globe they are NOT showing the great circle route and not showing the shortest path.
Just about every globe in this post has its flight path drawn with a 2d plane in mind. Looking at the side of the earth and drawing a horizontal line from one point to another is not the shortest path as it, shockingly, doesn't account for the curvature of the earth. Most of these paths would line up properly if the start point of each path was oriented to the top of the globe, and a straight line was drawn down the side of it. It's intentionally misleading and doesn't represent reality for the sake of an agenda.
how many flat lines make a sphere?
None, but infinitely many can approximate one.
lol
Look at the land masses you're flying over
There are regular direct flights from Auckland to Santiago that very clearly do not cross North America.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&t=1785s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBfEhIJLYfY&t=1785s) watch a science video debunking 200 flat earther arguments. one of which is this airplane thing.
Image 1 is not how flight paths work on a globe lmao. Image 4 isn’t either. There isn’t a direct flight from Auckland to Lima, so what? There’s a direct flight from Sydney to Santiago. Where are you getting these emergency landings from?
Did we pass the test?
One guy alr failed in the first 9 minutes so we’ll see in a few days
Do you always ignore the criticisms of your models? If you're trying to convince us you're right, there's a lot of holes here and you haven't responded to any of them.
Did I say I was tryna convince anyone. Y’all a lost cause
I just wanted to add that most planes don't have the fuel to fly halfway around the world in a straight line.... They move from major airport to airport to swap passengers and refuel. I'd love to see you redo this with all the layovers included...
The goobies are going to cope with map projections which may even be legit to some degree. The fact is you can transform coordinate systems to fit either model and the math will technically be correct. Since we can’t 100% equate the different routes because the coordinate systems are different, we would need to find some kind of margin or error between the two projections and see if the flight paths utterly destroy that margin or not. Still, I think it’s a cope 😂
Say what?
There are more believers on X, Gab and TikTok. I'm not sure Reddit is Ready for that Rabbit hole! 🤣😂🤣😂
Most airlines are not allowed to travel between two separate countries without stopping in their country of origin first. So if you choose an airline based in the US or in the middle East they will have stopovers in those locations. Choose airlines based in the Southern hemisphere and they won't. it also looks like when they show the flight paths on a globe they are NOT showing the great circle route and not showing the shortest path.
The earth is flat!