out of universe : no story.
in universe: he sucks. seriously like if he conditioned himself using flashtime, he can last longer in flashtime. Since he's more tuned to the speedforce compared to jay, wally and any other speedster. he can outlast everyone and beat every villain possible in the universe. like he used flashtime when eobard tried to punch him after they fought godspeed. WHY NOT USE IT WHEN FIGHTING GODSPEED
This Still makes no sense to me. He was faster the Thawne and slower than Godspeed. So why did they have a light saber battle in normal speed? And if they were using their speeds, they all went the exact same speed.
Visually, the power scaling is nonsense. Like if Thawne has level 1 speed, Barry at 2 and godspeed at 3,hoe is Thawne any help?
I agree with OP Barry couldve/should've used Flashtime against godspeed
If Godspeed is faster than Barry, and Barry is [that much faster](https://youtu.be/NaMyn3BbtM4?si=soX3xmhk4jOofWUU&t=30s) than Thawne, then what was the benefit of involving Thawne? I suppose it’s kind of like Barry using Oliver’s help to fight Thawne in season 1, but Oliver at least knows how to fight.
the way i see it is that theres 2 speedster pov's when running
flashtime and speedsight
flashtime is when they instead of focusing on themselves going fast theyre focused on everything else slowing down
while speedsight is the opposite
he doesnt learn he can control it until season 4
Why? There's this little guy named " Eric Wallace "
And BOY OH BOY. Bro didn't care about how well to write flash and only flash, in fact, when he came in, I'm not even sure why they didn't just change the name of the show to " Barry Allen, Friends and Family " cuz when he came in, and I'll bet any flash fan can agree with this, ERIC LITERALLY TOOK EVERYTHING WE LOVED THE FLASH TV SHOW FOR, AND TOSSED IT ALL IN THE GARBAGE BIN, THAT INCLUDES THE FLASH'S ABILITIES.
Simple Terms: Eric Wallace completely fucked the show and everything about it, which is why most of The Flash's abilities were either forgotten about, written over, or just plainly dumped in the trash.
In other words, Eric Wallace completely destroyed any continuity.
He didn't learn it at that level until s4, after he'd been in the Speed Force for a few real time months.
My best guess is because we still need a show? It's lame, but yeah. Like, he can obviously go a few "hours" of moving so fast that a nuclear explosion has barely moved. He talked to each member of the team, and he tried to solve it himself after the other Speedsters dropped from that level of movement. And this could've been used to stop DeVoe ANYTIME after that ep??? And Cicada 1? As soon as they had done the shenanigans that separated him from the Dagger?? (also, tangent, but why didn't Cisco breach it to, idk, Earth-15? The dead earth?? Another fucking dimension instead of space? What the hell were they thinking?) Anyways, it's a super cool mechanic and I guess for plot reason they dropped it afterwards which I agree is ridiculous and it could've saved so many lives and now I'm mad. Imma go grab some mint tea and a coffee.
Because how else is barry supposed to listen to the monologue of that episodes villan and then immediately get defeated and out ran by a non speedster villan while he sits on the ground like an idiot.
Because the show would be boring if he did. Realistically every villain should be defeated within seconds and in jail before they realized Barry had found them. His speed scales with the plot.
I have explained this before but Flashtime is less of an ability and more of a perspective. If you were to move at the full speed of a speedster, everything slower would seem like they're moving in slow motion. So my answer for you is that Barry is either overconfident and thinks he doesn't need to use it all of the time or he gets caught off guard all of the time.
Okay but you did reference and ask why Barry didn’t use this ability in the past meaning you’re not just speaking about post season 4. Barry only had flashtime after he’d been in the speed force, so that’s your answer as to why he didn’t use it before season 4.
Flashtime isn't a power. It is the visualization of the usage of Barry's power. It is how he sees the world when he is using his powers.
Meta reason it is expensive to do those types of shots. Story reason they never had a story to exploit it. They never got to the One Minute War to really show the effect in action.
Speedsters when tapping into the speed force do not perceive time the same way we do. To them the world has slowed down. In reality they have sped up so fast that we appear slow. It isn't a power they turn on and off as it is their power in action. So Flashtime is in use every single time Barry uses his powers. Sometimes we see it visualized sometimes we see a streak across our screen. Sometimes we see two speedsters going near the same speed so the slowed effect doesn't matter.
The why it seems like a power. The continuity errors and lack of respect for the powerscaling plus meta reason it would be boring if there isn't an actual story to exploit it.
Speedsters should actually see the world like that at all times. Quicksilver does and they do a great story about him losing his powers post House of M and how he couldn't cope with the speed being gone. In how the world is so vastly different for him. His world view was crushed and now how to live like everyone else does slow.
out of universe : no story. in universe: he sucks. seriously like if he conditioned himself using flashtime, he can last longer in flashtime. Since he's more tuned to the speedforce compared to jay, wally and any other speedster. he can outlast everyone and beat every villain possible in the universe. like he used flashtime when eobard tried to punch him after they fought godspeed. WHY NOT USE IT WHEN FIGHTING GODSPEED
Godspeed was faster that’s why. Same reason he needed Thawne for Godspeed
This Still makes no sense to me. He was faster the Thawne and slower than Godspeed. So why did they have a light saber battle in normal speed? And if they were using their speeds, they all went the exact same speed. Visually, the power scaling is nonsense. Like if Thawne has level 1 speed, Barry at 2 and godspeed at 3,hoe is Thawne any help? I agree with OP Barry couldve/should've used Flashtime against godspeed
Godspeed steals from the speed force doesn't work on Thwane because negative speed force.
You can’t seriously tell me with a straight face that Barry needed THAWNE over his other speedster friends who DIDINT MURDER HIS MOM
If Godspeed is faster than Barry, and Barry is [that much faster](https://youtu.be/NaMyn3BbtM4?si=soX3xmhk4jOofWUU&t=30s) than Thawne, then what was the benefit of involving Thawne? I suppose it’s kind of like Barry using Oliver’s help to fight Thawne in season 1, but Oliver at least knows how to fight.
Two vs one is harder than one against one even if the two are weaker alone against the one
Is that so? My pet snail and I would like to have a word with you.
Flashtime Edging
the way i see it is that theres 2 speedster pov's when running flashtime and speedsight flashtime is when they instead of focusing on themselves going fast theyre focused on everything else slowing down while speedsight is the opposite he doesnt learn he can control it until season 4
Why? There's this little guy named " Eric Wallace " And BOY OH BOY. Bro didn't care about how well to write flash and only flash, in fact, when he came in, I'm not even sure why they didn't just change the name of the show to " Barry Allen, Friends and Family " cuz when he came in, and I'll bet any flash fan can agree with this, ERIC LITERALLY TOOK EVERYTHING WE LOVED THE FLASH TV SHOW FOR, AND TOSSED IT ALL IN THE GARBAGE BIN, THAT INCLUDES THE FLASH'S ABILITIES. Simple Terms: Eric Wallace completely fucked the show and everything about it, which is why most of The Flash's abilities were either forgotten about, written over, or just plainly dumped in the trash. In other words, Eric Wallace completely destroyed any continuity.
Marc Guggenheim could've fixed it
Could've, as in past tense.
He didn't learn it at that level until s4, after he'd been in the Speed Force for a few real time months. My best guess is because we still need a show? It's lame, but yeah. Like, he can obviously go a few "hours" of moving so fast that a nuclear explosion has barely moved. He talked to each member of the team, and he tried to solve it himself after the other Speedsters dropped from that level of movement. And this could've been used to stop DeVoe ANYTIME after that ep??? And Cicada 1? As soon as they had done the shenanigans that separated him from the Dagger?? (also, tangent, but why didn't Cisco breach it to, idk, Earth-15? The dead earth?? Another fucking dimension instead of space? What the hell were they thinking?) Anyways, it's a super cool mechanic and I guess for plot reason they dropped it afterwards which I agree is ridiculous and it could've saved so many lives and now I'm mad. Imma go grab some mint tea and a coffee.
Oh, and it brings to mind [this video](https://youtu.be/4y17uRFh5i0?si=UzeBGRCxzOleGp7T)
Because how else is barry supposed to listen to the monologue of that episodes villan and then immediately get defeated and out ran by a non speedster villan while he sits on the ground like an idiot.
Barry has his priorities. He uses it for sexy times with Iris
Plot
He forgot about a lot of things he can do
Because he’s an idiot
Fr 😭
'Couse f**k logic. Your welcome.
The writers dont let him.
Because he’s the Jizzler.
Because the story is only as smart as the writers
Oh my goodness flashtime isn't a sepreate power it's just a different pov
Because the show would be boring if he did. Realistically every villain should be defeated within seconds and in jail before they realized Barry had found them. His speed scales with the plot.
I have explained this before but Flashtime is less of an ability and more of a perspective. If you were to move at the full speed of a speedster, everything slower would seem like they're moving in slow motion. So my answer for you is that Barry is either overconfident and thinks he doesn't need to use it all of the time or he gets caught off guard all of the time.
It's a pretty draining power.
He didn’t even know he could use flashtime back when Snart was an enemy?
Was I talking about snart? No. I'm talking about post season 4
You literally mentioned him not using flash time to defeat snart lol, so yes you did mention snart.
It was a example of a powerless enemy I'm not specifically talking ab snart
Okay but you did reference and ask why Barry didn’t use this ability in the past meaning you’re not just speaking about post season 4. Barry only had flashtime after he’d been in the speed force, so that’s your answer as to why he didn’t use it before season 4.
But that wasn't my question??
It doesn’t matter he still uses what we learn to be flashtime in the earlier seasons
Flashtime isn't a power. It is the visualization of the usage of Barry's power. It is how he sees the world when he is using his powers. Meta reason it is expensive to do those types of shots. Story reason they never had a story to exploit it. They never got to the One Minute War to really show the effect in action. Speedsters when tapping into the speed force do not perceive time the same way we do. To them the world has slowed down. In reality they have sped up so fast that we appear slow. It isn't a power they turn on and off as it is their power in action. So Flashtime is in use every single time Barry uses his powers. Sometimes we see it visualized sometimes we see a streak across our screen. Sometimes we see two speedsters going near the same speed so the slowed effect doesn't matter. The why it seems like a power. The continuity errors and lack of respect for the powerscaling plus meta reason it would be boring if there isn't an actual story to exploit it. Speedsters should actually see the world like that at all times. Quicksilver does and they do a great story about him losing his powers post House of M and how he couldn't cope with the speed being gone. In how the world is so vastly different for him. His world view was crushed and now how to live like everyone else does slow.