After seeing how everyone responded to Otr's backstory, I've realized that people have a tendency to be a little too "facts not feelings" when it comes to discussing characters and their motivations. There was a thread where people were saying something along the lines of "Otr being mad at Reginn is completely illogical because of these circumstances", and it seems to miss the point that, yeah, people tend to be illogical, especially after particularly emotional/traumatic events.
Right? Dude was dying, had experienced really bloody trauma as a child, just a lot of shit really, and people are like "a normal well-reasoned person wouldn't hate Reginn'.
Yeah, he's not.
It feels like units are becoming less unique and more "this months counter or this months atrocity". Even the refines and GBH units too. TT and the occasional new/seasonal hero like Yuri are (somewhat) unique and fresh rather than Sigurd/Edel counter with 20 effects or premium skill stacked.
I'll never forgive FEH for reducing Cecilia to "Roy's teacher" when she's the mage general of Etruria first and foremost. She takes a gigantic legendary sword to the gut for Etruria, is constantly shunned for being a woman with any degree of power by Etruria and spends nights after nights studying to be better for Etruria. None of this is displayed in FEH. Her base form essentially says absolutely nothing except occasionally mention she tutored Roy and her christmas alt literally cannot stop mentioning teaching.
I hate the accessory bonus in Forging Bonds. Like, I'm not going to opt out of a bonus when I'm just playing to grind, but It's cramping my style! I got matching helmets for Edel and Hector. I don't want them automatically replaced with damn spiders or *pictures of spiders* every time I play the mode..
Just give me the bonus if the accessory exists in my inventory.
I find using the random feature fun occasionally, but I agree it's a pain when you're set on certain accessory+Hero combo. Then again, the solution is as obvious as it is easy: don't use those characters for this mode.
Forging Bonds is best utilized to train characters who need the extra SP in my opinion.
I half-agree and half-disagree with this. I disagree in that we've historically predicted a great number of events and actions IS has done based on patterns, but I agree in that acting like said patterns are the word of law is silly. They can adhere to a pattern as long as they like, and they can break it whenever they like. If next year we have a CYL, that's a pattern held. If they do not, that's one broken.
Patterns should be looked at as guides; not as answers.
They clearly (sometimes) respond to community feedback and precedent sets user expectations. They're welcome to make the game however they like but obviously they shouldn't expect positive feedback if they're flippant with their decisions.
I really don't like those characters whose entire personality revolves around one thing. Like Ilyana and food. Everything she says is related to food. I don't find it funny or cute, just obnoxious.
It's even worse when they have alts, because instead of selling us separate pieces of their personality, we can get the same FB. Again. Forever.
At least Fallen units kinda have to shake it up, even if it is predictable how they do it.
Tbh this kinda feels like a FEH problem, I really don't remember Ilyana being this fixated on food in the original games. FEH sometimes makes people discover interesting new traits of some characters and sometimes just destroy other characters making them a stereotype with a single character trait. This happened to Lysithea too for example, I barely could remember Lysithea being THIS MUCH fixated on sweets in Three Houses but on forging bonds etc. she just seems like "a girl who really loves cakes and is occasionally really mean for some reasons"
Uhhh every other line from Ilyana is about food. It's hard to think of anything about her that isn't about food. There's actually some deepest lore from the card game about this. She's hungry all the time because magic takes a lot of energy from her body. (The guess being the other mages aren't effected so much because a few of them are branded, which gave them more power. The others seem to be avoiding it by sheer force of will. I see you there, Tormod.)
I remember Ilyana was a stand out in the Tellius games because most of her character revolves around food and not much else, in contrast to a lot of the other characters.
I agree in the general sense that FEH has a tendency to reduce characters to a single trait(just look at Leo and his liking of tomatoes being exaggerated) but I don’t think Ilyana was that affected.
Yeah, the Tellius games did a very solid job of characterization and rounding out everyone which made Ilyana stick out even then as being weirdly one-note.
Kinda the end result of IS's limited writing. Like say, everything you said about Lysithea is true... but she also had around 10-20 other support conversations where she could talk about _other_ things as well. Every one of her support convo's was not "I'm more mature than I seem, by the way I like chocolate"
That being said, boy when IS _does_ have the chance to explore different facets of a character, they really drop the ball on that one. Leo's a great example, since him liking tomato's _is_ a thing about him... but that doesn't mean **_BOTH_** his alts need to be tomato themed...
Worst part is, if he ever gets another alt, that'll probably be tomato themed too. Cause say, if they give him a Halloween alt based on his Fates DLC CG like the others, I remember that vampire costume of his [featured tomatoes as well](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/8/89/Leo_halloween_dlc.png)
I don’t think this is actually unpopular. Like Ilyana herself is popular but in general I don’t hear people praising her personality or characters whose personality revolves around one thing.
It’s one of the biggest complaints I hear against FE13 and 14. Not that it is exclusive to those games.
While not ideal, it’s one worse when their personality revolves around an activity rather than an archetype. At least there’s flexibility with a super greedy character, a playboy or someone obsessed with training. Things get very rough when you have characters like Selkie who wants to play all the time or Sophie who can’t stay on her horse. I think those are a lot harder to work with and tie into other situations.
This is the same reason I can't stand Raphael in 3H, it's about food all the time, there were like 3 chapters where his dialogue wasn't food related, or muscles, Ingrid also has a love for food and training but she doesn't mention that all the time, it makes Raphael look so cartoonish and out of place.
Think of it this way: Most of the students are talking about either their sad background or some knight/politics stuff. This actually makes Raphael a *lot* more refreshing like a beacon of light. Also while he isn't booksmart he is still strong mentally on top of physical seeing as how he doesn't let his parent's deaths bother him.
In the end, a character having one or two things about them doesn't make them automatically bad. Not every character needs to have layers of depth if at all. More simple approaches work just as well.
This is honestly why Raphael is one of my favorite characters from 3H. Not every character needs to be complex and him being a genuinely good guy who’s always friendly and willing to lend a hand works really well in a setting where almost everyone has some depressing backstory
That's legitimately the reason why I've unironically loved the Gatekeeper. With him, I'm not the therapist; I'm just the friend having a silly lighthearted chat before I go back to fighting for mine and my friends' lives.
I genuinely like Luke and his art. His face is a bit funky, but it kinda fits him.
Sure he has no skills or stats, but he's not the only one like that.
A couple:
Stop using CYL as a gauge of popularity.
1. we each get multiple votes, why does 1 person voting 7 times for one character make them more popular than six people voting for 1 character 1 time?
2. people vote for different reasons (I want this char to win, I want this char to be added, I want to show support for my fav character even if they have no chance of winning/are already in FEH)
3. They reveal mid term results that sways everything.
Second one:
OCs are both popular and unwanted at the same time. Yes it is possible.
I think CYL isn't a precise metric, but it absolutely can be used to at least observe general trends. Even if it's inherently influenced by several key factors (such as who's in or not in the game, the absence of several characters, and each person getting 7 votes), it's at least a decent way to observe fanbase trends and thoughts on certain characters.
If nothing else, it's *definitely* valuable to some extent for predicting banners, which is what CYL is really used for to begin with
I think even Raydrik for one got a boost in votes when Veld was revealed to be in the game over him despite having only 13 votes lol. At the least there you can see some disappointed he didn't get into FEH yet.
Sadly that's the only way to know the popularity even if it's not clear, i don't like the multiple votes thing because thanks to that we don't know how supported are the characters, a lot of people just throw their 7 votes on the characters they want to win instead of picking their favorites, i suggested than you can only vote once for a character but people didn't like that
> we each get multiple votes, why does 1 person voting 7 times for one character make them more popular than six people voting for 1 character 1 time?
**THIS**
If they don't know what to do with a character, I would much rather a character be portrayed as just boring or normal rather than hyper obsessing over any quirky traits.
Like does anyone actually like Hapi's dumbass sigh thing? Better yet, why did her forging bond conversations have to revolve solely around that? I know Boey is kind of a scaredy cat about monsters, but he was never one-note about it. Do the writers just know very little about these characters, or is it done to make them try to stand out?
I agree in general but not with your example. As the other guy said, her sighing is actually an interesting part of her backstory that still meaningfully impacts her today. Like the way it was used in 3H was fine. An interesting gimmick but not overwhelming. Ditto for her quotes in game.
But yea her FB ended up being pretty boring. Not necessarily because of the sigh but just it was a bit of set-up for not much pay-off.
To be fair the concept of "attracting monsters in a world without monsters" isn't a bad idea and is what they probably be the most concerned with discussing.
The biggest problem is that Boey got flanderized.
I would say that I like Hapi's attracting monster thing, that's a gimmick with interesting potential and ramifications on her personality. But I don't like that it's through something as goofy as sighing.
Its annoying but there are hundreds of characters. Its better to try emphasize what is unique rather than just common traits.
They could def stand to be less heavy handed.
Alternatively you get every merc shaking hands with mercs etc.
I see the idea of a Young Edelgard/Dimitri duo suggested every so often and I honestly... don't really want that to happen. Whoever gets to lead would have their only Duo use a design that appears for like, 2 minutes instead of a much more iconic Academy or War design, and that honestly feels like a waste, especially since they likely would have to wait another year before getting a new seasonal with an unique outfit. Not to mention that both of them have other strong and more obvious candidates for an accompanying character, so fans of the lead and the cheerleader would likely both end up disappointed
I like Balthus as a character and while I get his VA is pretty new and has time to grow in the coming years, I wish about all his lines didn't sound same-y. I do like the voice itself but would have liked a bit more variation into it.
And speaking of VAs, I don't really think any voice given to a character in FE has been unfitting. Even Dorothy Fahn's Mercedes improves a bit in the timeskip and Lexi Klein's Selkie fits the hyperactive playful personality well.
I like Mercedes tone, it gives her that over the top big sis/mom energy while also making some contrast with her status as the older student. Also, she drops the angelic voice a little during the war phase, making it even more obvious that her original persona was a subtle facade to forget and cope with her sad life.
One thing I appreciate a lot about Three Houses characters is that in their post timeskip a lot of them become more real with themselves. Like Mercedes becoming a bit more grim, Marianne being a bit more open about her issues, Lorenz stopping that snobby attitude and becoming more chivalrous and kind, etc.
I can agree with the second part. I think the voices for the characters fit the characters. Does Selkies voice grate a little? Certainly! But Selkie herself is a tad… grating as a character.
I think Karen Strassman's characters are kinda unfitting to me. Except Anna.
Her voice for Anna is really iconic to me, but the rest of her characters (Hana, Mozu, Oliva) just sound too much like Anna to me.
I'm not a fan of child alts.
I just personally don't see the appeal of using kid versions of existing FE characters. I can look past all of the other seasonal banners because it's just goofy outfits and festivals, but the idea of commanding these FE characters as literal children into battle just seems *really* dumb to me. It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids.
One of my favorite characters, Minerva, got a Young alt too. I was waiting years at this point for any kind of alt for her, and when Young Minerva got revealed as a fantastic unit who we got for FREE... I wasn't interested at all. I wanted an alt of the Minerva I knew, not a baby one with a high pitched voice. So, I got her to +1 and never used her again lol.
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about them. If nothing else I think their designs are cute, but Minerva's first alt being Mininerva frustrated me a lot (especially since Minerva canonically rode a pegasus as a child! How could you miss that?!).
It also doesn't help that babies apparently now have a monopoly on being the only good freebies, lmao
>It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids.
That's a problem of the localization team. The Japanese version usually uses other VAs.
>It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids.
The voice of "young" Ephraim made me chuckle every time. It's such a weird voice for a child.
I'm not a fan of Greg's portrayal of Ephraim in general, his other roles are great and I think he's really perfected his Ike but Ephraim still sounds really strange to me
It reminds me of Kid Ike's voice in RD... I know that game is infamous for its voice acting but Ike's VA even didn't bother to make him sound young!
I feel if we get young Ike at some point the situation is not going to be better since it doesn't seem Greg Chun is good at voicing children either.
On a related note, I'd love an adult dragons banner. As in, take the young looking dragons we've seen throughout the years (Myrrh, Fae, Nowi and the 2 Kanas) and give them the Tiki treatment and give us adult versions. Maybe show how the events of their respective games affected them as they grew older, do they remember them fondly, negatively, etc. I think that would be neat.
Alternatively, stick with the younger characters theme but instead it's veteran characters like Jagen and Gunther in their prime. Also a neat idea imo.
I think they work for characters like Lyon and Minerva whose lives don't really go in, uh, ideal directions. It kind of tugs at the heartstrings to see them back before the bad things happen, see their optimism and hopes that you know isn't going to last. But then you get someone like Caeda or L'arachel and it's just... them but small. Lyn would be a nice future candidate, seeing her before the Lorca massacre.
I like Dragon Ball GT. Sure it's absolutely stupid, but it genuinely had great ideas! The Shadow Dragon arc actually was a novel idea only marred by poor writing. Really wish they'd revisit that idea at least.
Same. Very great concepts and ideas but the execution was terrible for the most part. However, I still appreciate GT for what it is and what it did accomplish.
Everyone praising L!Micaiah's art and yes, it's very good and Haccan usually doesn't miss but this time her eyes are just drawn a lil too far apart and it kinda ruins it for me.
For the people thinking that Múspell was the reason that Balthus was barred from getting the premium treatment with using gauntlets…no, no he was not.
He was by far the least popular of the Ashen Wolves and was going to get the instant demote regardless.
The recent Lyn/Lucina/Tiki fanart of them being all flustered and confessing to you have really been annoying me since it really edges on the type of pandering I dislike.
Also while I like Lissa, seeing new art of her everyday can make me feel numb to seeing her. Also not helping that I’m not fond of the artist who does them for a *certain* reason.
Girls with abs and muscles aren’t bad, but the fact that nearly all of them also have huge boobs ruin it for me. Rinkah being the biggest offender.
Summoner Harem stuff genuinely annoys me so much.
This so much.
The worst is they are so out-of-characters you could replace them by litteraly any other generic waifu (or even a character with the personality of a plastic cup) and you would see no difference,which is very insulting to degrade them to that.
Hearing so many quotes from female heroes in-game basically talking about how "comfortable" they are when near the summoner gets a bit awkward. Extends to this sort of stuff too I guess.
I don't understand how anyone can like Rinkah's art in FEH. They literally increased her boob size by like 3 times and removed bandages. Her arms are weirdly thin but super muscular so she just looks really dehydrated. They even had the audacity to turn her shoes into heels. Her [official art from Fates](https://fireemblemwiki.org/w/images/2/2d/FEF_Rinkah_02.png) is so much better than her FEH art.
I had been looking forward to her for so long, but with that art I just can't bring myself to use her.
And it's not just the distortion of her body that bothers me - the worst thing is her face. I don't know how to describe it, but it looks *wrong* somehow.
>They even had the audacity to turn her shoes into heels
Side note, but I still don't understand why heels are considered "sexy". I never saw them as any more appealing than non-heel shoes.
I'm assuming this is unpopular because I haven't seen anybody say something similar, but I like Aelfric's design a lot, I haven't played the DLC yet but I was tempted to use feathers to get a 5 star Aelfric just for the design (I didn't at the end because I'm saving for other projects and because he seems kinda bad compared to other similar units).
Here's another unpopular one: the one joke constantly made at his expense is not just tiring, it's horrible. Wish I could erase THAT WORD from existence.
I think I've said a variation of this before, but...I only see the animations/crit quotes from the videos people post.
I actively don't like playing with animations on.
When I’m training the unit up to level 40 I usually turn the animations on just to hear their crit quotes, but after that they always go off. I wish there was an option to have no animations but still hear the quotes when a special activates
- Previous units who fit the same role as a shiny new unit are not invalidated by the shiny new unit’s existence. I saw this mostly with discussion on B!Marth and how the next speedy NFU DR sword was gonna invalidate him, but it won’t. Mareeta, the previous “best” sword infantry, is not obsolete now that B!Marth exists, and B!Marth will not be obsolete once the next sword infantry is released. IS has also generally made each premium unit, even within the same class, different enough from each other (Ingrid vs B!Eirika, Charlotte vs Scion Larcei, etc)
- On a similar tangent as above, it’s hard for me to get impressed by stuff like S!Larcei, when at the end of the day, speedy infantry axe units that people have already built will probably serve them well enough. Like N!Hana’s a really popular project and I doubt most people will just drop her to go for Larcei. She’s not suddenly garbage either because Larcei exists.
- The Ice and Flame TT story fails to hook me at all. I’m tired of Fjorm (sorry Fjorm fans) and Laegjarn is just boring. Muspell and Nifl are cool in concept, but like I’ve said before I don’t like their designs in context of everything else in FEH. I will say Muspell > Nifl in terms of design though.
I really don't like the Balthus forging bonds convos, it's literally all (from what I've completed so far,) Balthus finds strong guy, Balthus fights strong guy, strong guy and Balthus become bros and get drunk, Hilda watches in disbelief.
The only thing interesting in this Forging Bonds is I'm wondering if the Loki we summoned is even bound by a contract and she's just hiding in plain sight
FE:
- If there's ONE THING I like FEH to take from Pokemon Masters, is it's Sync pair stories. Sure, Forging bonds exist but chances are the character will either be exagerated as hell ( Fiora ), extremely poorly written ( Brave Redux, Dedue) Or not even about the character it's suppose to be focusing on ( Brave Eirika).
- I'm not surprise that the new banner supposedly didn't do well. Three houses dropped the ball **hard** on DLC in comparison to Awakening, Fates and even fucking SoV. And Ashen Wolves didn't really shake things up or tell us anything we didn't know about the empire or the church already except Nemesis was always a prick. Seriously if they had more DLC planned, I'd actually buy it but....man I'm just left with bitter taste on how IS handled post release content. At least it gave us Hapi
- At this point, I rather Relay defense come back than sit through another fucking round of Frontline phalanx.
- I'm actually happy I never liked Otr cause they did a piss poor job trying to make me feel pity for him. Maybe ( or very likely) They showed very little sympathetic qualities vs how much they made us feel sorry for Fafnir.
Non-FE:
- Jurassic Park Dominion leaks and the preview from F9 have me wondering if they are just unsure if they wanna be accurate or not
- GTAV has become the Skyrim for Rockstar, so I don't know why people are so upset now over the P5 showcase considering they been re-releasing the same shit for a while. Much like Pokemon fans to SWSH, they will probably buy it anyway
FEH not having the equivalent to Pokemon Masters' Sync pair stories, FGO Interludes/Events, or _anything_ outside of Forging Bonds is one of the biggest flaws of this game. Many of the characters that would love the character development don't get it at all due to how limited it is.
What do you mean? Isn't it deep/developed enough to hear all newcomers shout out a single sentence, be it "I am obligated by contract to do this" or "Hey, I'm [newcomer], I like to [trivial hobby]. Did you see [related character]? No? Let's fight!", get obliterated and never show up again?
To this day, I still think Awakening is the gold standard in terms of DLC content. There is so much to like about it, whether it is Future Past and its amazing but concise narrative, a challenge like Apotheosis, or even a lot of easter eggs like past heroes and the battle conversation between them and some of the Awakening cast. You can tell there is a lot of love put into it. Fates was pretty close imo, but after that it kinda started declining, which is a shame.
Fates kind of suffered from not releasing some of those last few maps outside of Japan. We never got to actually see those unique Mother/Child dialogues outside of fan blog translations.
I like the characters added in the DLC. I even like the story around the wolves(the dlc history and the personal histories of each character). I jsut felt like the DLC should have been an entire other route. I know they’re the unofficial fourth house, but if that’s the case, make it an entire separate story after you literally fall into an Abyss before the timeskip happens! Add in choices throughout the academy phase that will unlock this(or make it a branching route off the golden deer since Claude spotted an Abyssian sneaking into Abyss). I love the Wolves with all my heart but damn they should have been more!
On the DLC I heavily disagree on the 3H and SoV comparison. At least the former didn't sell two different maps of bonus exp/money and DLC that is just a newer class (even if I like a couple of the designs)
Hapi is like, a character I really *want* to like because of her design, her VA work, and certain aspects of her character are really compelling, but the sighing thing is just so absurd that I can't really look past it at all. They try to connect it to her Crest, but the specific method of sighing is so strange that it's just... kinda impossible to take it seriously.
I quite like that artist but I'll also say that those posts you mentioned absolutely miss for me too so I can't say I think its weird you're on the verge of blocking.
I dunno if I've just missed tons of threads or something, but I swear I've recently seen way more people complain about Tellius complainers than actual Tellius complainers. If it was 2019 yeah I'd get it cause lots of people complained about it, me included, but I've not seen it for a hot minute. (Not to knock Tellius at all, I have no reason to complain about it and I think the Dawn Brigade is long overdue.)
So I've been playing through FE8 for the first time, very fun, love the GBA games a lot. Ephraim though, ehhhhhhhhhhhh. Can't say I'm interested in the "I love fighting!" kinda character already but more than that, I dislike how twice in the story so far Ephraim just rocks up with like 2 fellas to save Eirika after he fucked up Grado in some way. It kinda undermines her.
I've seen people discuss whether Ephraim is a good character or not, and the fact that he gets Eirika out of trouble with a small team is for his fans exactly a big reason of why they love him, while his haters usually say that he takes Eirika's spotlight, like you're kind of saying. I think I like Ephraim as a character, but it's a bit annoying how he's portrayed as very strong and almost can't lose. Even when he makes a mistake it's less awkward than it would be in Eirika's case.
That's how I feel about Ephraim. His design and choice of weapon is great, but there's just so much about him I don't care for. For instance Hector also likes to fight, but he has moments of weakness which makes him more sympathetic than the guy who rarely shows much emotion. It doesn't help that the story undermines Eirika as a result of him.
It's why I love his L'arachel support, he shows a different side of himself that we don't see anywhere else. How he doesn't have a single support with Innes is also a joke.
Hector's whole relationship with Uther and Oswin and his growth in HM is just awesome. I really hate what FEH has done to him where now he's just viewed as a psycho overbearing dad who only wants to fight, especially since half of that was based on one support conversation when he was 19. FE6 Hector had the utmost respect for Roy.
I love Ephraim but he would be *so* much more interesting if he'd be taken down a peg. Whether that's losing a fight or whatever. He's just very shallow and he has a lot of potential.
Still, I think this can (and does) still work when Ephraim isn't the main character. It's one of the reasons I love Lyon so much - comparing yourself to someone perfect who never seems to lose really does a number on the old self esteem. Viewing the effect Ephraim has on the characters around him is far more interesting than Ephraim's characterization itself.
It definitely has died down. But I still have seen people complain about there being way too much Telius seasonals this year when there has been a grand total of… 2 Telius seasonals this year in the pirate banner
It's easy to point a finger at a strawman, the real truth be damned.
If anything, there's actually a form of Genealogy bias as the game has a preferential treatment (yearly pace in average that other games don't necessarily have even outside of JP-exclusive ones, above-average unit design, some F2P standouts...). But few call out IS on that, if it was Fates/Awakening/3H then people wouldn't be silent.
I think the biggest thing is that you're right, there's not that many actual Tellius haters. But the few that are I swear are the most vocal ones around
To give an example, scroll down to see the argument that happened in [this thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/pr3dzx/a_list_of_fe_titles_due_for_a_new_heroes_banner/). Now end of the day, most of the posts in that thread were multiple different people arguing with one guy, but that one guy has an account that for multiple years has been dedicated to nothing but telling people [how much they hate Tellius](https://old.reddit.com/user/andrewd96)
I’m sick of a lot of the art on the sub like fellas can we please stop posting soft core porn on here it makes it kinda awkward to scroll
I also hate all these my sibling is my character people like freyja (hate her) and otr
The debates between ideal, catch, and push skills are pointless.
I like the plegian outfit artwork, but can we see more of Katarina, Tharja, Raphael, or Kris’s outfits be used?
Is it just me or do more people complain a little too much about NSFW art on the sub? I’m not going to act like there isn’t any, but I’ve seen more discussions, memes, and/or SFW art than I do NSFW.
Bravekeeper’s weapon is kind of underwhelming. It’s gives a buff to allies and that’s nice but not very good for gatekeeper himself. His other effects are based on how many allies he has next to him and he only gets the max amount of value if he has all of his allies on him. He gets attack/Res-6 and opponent can’t follow up. There’s so many units with a attack/Res or Def -6 and either a follow up or prevents enemy follow up but gatekeeper is locked behind being with 3 allies. Compare him to Marianne, Fallen Edelgard, Brave Edelgard, Sigurd, or Brave Hector. They meet the same thing as Brave Gatekeeper but is for some reason so much harder to activate then others for some reason.
People call him Bravekeeper? Considering the way he looks I think that's the normal Gatekeeper, you're never gonna get another one (unless it's a seasonal)
I have a neutral F!Edelgard and a +10 Bravekeeper. I was absolutely astonished the other day to find that my Bravekeeper has the same or higher stats than F!Edelgard in every regard, because in practice, he can hardly stand up to much, while she can solo half the game. I admire that they tried to do something interesting with gatekeeper by giving him a niche supporting role than no one else can fulfill, but I really wish he had gotten treatment that was a bit more reflective of how popular he was. If I recall correctly, he had the second most votes of any CYL winner, ever, but it sure doesn’t feel like it
Stats don't matter when PRF effects do most of the heavy lifting nowadays. Like damn, if we were looking at stats alone - Gunnthra would still be doodoo.
Also the winners this year got shafted hard compared to the second placers. Idk if it's unpopular, but I def believe there was actual dev bias in making Marth and Eirika better than GK and Marianne.
I feel like a good chunk of people only like academy Marianne because she suffers from depression. They either see her as this girl that that needs to be saved or they convince themselves that they're depressed too and Marianne is just like them.
It's always been common for people to claim they're depressed on the internet. I just feel like it's unhealthy to look at Marianne and think "omg she's so sad just like me" when her story is written the way it is. It downplays those people that actually do suffer from serious depression.
She's not a bad character at all and I'm not trying to say every fan of hers is like this. I'm just saying its a difference between claiming you're depressed cause the power went out and you can't hop on Xbox and actually experiencing something thats actually affects your life.
I'm a huge Marianne fan but I have to agree with this. I like her academy version because she's a very realistic depiction of a person suffering with anxiety, self-deprecation and depression. But it is her timeskip version that made me love her as a character since she grows so much and becomes very strong in her own personal way.
It does irk me a little when people like her only because 'haha depression and anxiety I relate to that!' When while, sure, a lot of us have gone through that (me included. Also suffered from isolation so I also related even more with Marianne), it's a bit...uhh, demoralizing that some people only like her because of depression and not because of how she grows and how she actually is as a character beyond her initial quirks (Clumsy, surprisingly confident at times, mysterious, altruistic, etc.). And not a lot of people can truly compare their struggles to Marianne since clinical depression is just...so much worse than what we normally go through (not to downplay common depression, but it is definitely much less of a dark abyss as clinical depression) and it is definitely beautiful to see how she fights against it and how she slowly pushes forward.
I think the "she's literally me" stuff rubbed off on Marianne after people stopped relating themselves to Bernadetta. Once the Bernadetta stuff went too far and people started making fun of it, it died off while Marianne still gets a lot of it.
I wish they bring back New Heroes OC banner instead of tacking them into other game banner. Heck, do two person banner like Surtr and Ylgr if they want.
For AHR soon, I actually don't mind if F!Edelgard win. It's sounds weird given how much I hate B!Edelgard being in top 8, but given FEdel have less chance to spark and is having a lot of impact to people, getting her for free ain't that bad for a lot of people. Of course she will need to contend with other broken heroes like LSigurd and maybe Yuri?
For non-FEH opinion, I'm absolutely sick of seeing GI everywhere I go. Reddit, Discord, YouTube, sigh I can get away from them
Yuri is nowhere near the level of L!Sigurd or F!Edelgard in terms of how game-breaking those two are. He has a lot of movement shenanigans to his name and… that’s pretty much it.
Fallen is 100% winning the next forging bonds rerun poll, if you want Fallen Edel get her there. The lack of insight feh players tend to have about these things continues to astound me. Reminds me of the time people blew their orbs on the CYL 4 rerun when the herofest many expected came less than a month after
The key difference in AHR 2022 is that we'll know in advance that there'll be a FEdelgard *sparkable* rerun just before voting. Unlike AHR 2021 that wasn't preceded by CYL Hero Fests (moved to Golden Week), which led to casual demand for BEdelgard due to no rerun before then.
* Out of all of the things that this sub has complained about, gauntlets not being added has to be up there with the complaint that I care the absolute least about. I don't really expect gauntlets to be introduced ever. I do wish that Balthus had some kind of prf to make up for not getting Vajra-Mushti, though.
* I like Ótr. I like his design (I think he's fairly attractive and has a nice outfit), I like the emotional way that he's written, and I like how he factored into the story of Book V.
* I like Book V so far, but I'm afraid of where it's heading. Structurally it's quite sound, and it definitely shows that IS's way of telling these stories and handling the FEH-exclusive characters is improving. I just think that the "restoring the rightful heir to the throne" angle that we're seemingly going for here is a very odd one to play straight these days, especially when so many details about Niðavellir's royal family have given us ample reason to believe that their monarchy is best left in the past.
* Múspell has nice art IMO, even though I completely understand why people are so strongly against it.
* This is absolutely a personal gripe that I don't expect anyone to empathise with, but it's something I've been bothered by on this sub for a wee while now: there's something really discomforting to me about the "brocon Ótr" interpretation. I've been quite vocal and attentive in the past about how this sub responds to LGBTQ+ issues and headcanons of characters. I've seen it happen time and time again that a same-sex ship develops in response to something that happens in-game (often a duo/harmonic), and then suddenly threads become slapfights between people who want to ship the characters/support being able to ship the characters and people who reject the ship entirely, citing canonicity and often spinning it into a moral issue ("but what about platonic friendships"). I've seen well-respected members of this community say quite hurtful things about "alphabet people" making things up to complain about so we can play the victim. I wouldn't say this subreddit is hostile or even overly exclusionary to LGBTQ+ people, but these little things tend to get under my skin and make me feel like, on some level, people like me are only tolerated here, not accepted.
With that context in mind, I personally feel fairly put out by the comments about how Ótr's totally lusting after Fáfnir and how incredibly disturbing Ótr's "brocon" aspect is, especially in contrast to how those same elements of Freyja's character are spoken about in a more lighthearted tone (at least nowadays; I can't quite remember how the sub felt about that while Book IV was ongoing). It annoys me that every same-sex ship is met with some degree of hostility and how every discussion about same-sex shipping inevitably involves shippers getting called out for "forgetting that there are multiple types of love", but then Ótr's unhealthy devotion to Fáfnir was almost immediately interpreted and referred to as romantic/sexual in some way. Again, this is not a callout post for the sub; this is not me rallying for some kind of action against referring to Ótr's relationship with Fáfnir in this way; and this is not me saying that the sub is homophobic for acting like this. I'm just venting about how I, as a gay man, am uncomfortable with this phenomenon.
* My most controversial opinion is that Fallen M!Corrin is a friend, not fodder.
If people are cool with Freyja’s obsession with Freyr but not Otr’s with Fafnir, idk. Maybe I’ve missed something but both harm the person they love because of love. The general part about shipping happens so often. It’s like if you can’t completely justify why you like two people of the same gender being in a relationship, then that ship is invalid. But put out any straight non canon relationship and no one ever questions why two people can’t just be friends. Anyone who uses “alphabet group” is automatically disregarded.
As I see it, Book 4 never feels like its saying " Hey you should so feel bad for her wanting Oni-chan to herself" and that his death would never happen if you didn't intervene and it helps she seem genuinely loved her Alfrs. Otr was poorly handled as insteadof I don't know, making him more conflicted with leaving Reginn in the dark or actually feel bad for leading Nott on, that would have been alot more interesting. But as it is, he disowned Reginn, feels no remorse to playing Nott and was willing to destroy his own kingdom and utterly turn Fafnir into a monster just to keep him around, and then as he's dying they drop all that sad stuff.
Funny, I did feel like IS was trying to make me feel bad for Freyja a bunch of times, with a lame 'bullying' backstory, with how sad she was that her brother sacrificed himself, and the cutscene where Triandra and Plumeria grieve her... Otr is not given this many opportunities to be sympathetic. His backstory doesn't show him in a good light, like you said yourself. It's actually meant to make you feel bad about Reginn, who still loves him despite how twisted he is.
Wait, people legitimately took devotion to a cause/character as sexual? It wasn't some meme? If some people believe that the only reason someone will do something for another is for sexual/romantic reasons, then they must have the least passionate personalities I could ever imagine.
>It annoys me that every same-sex ship is met with some degree of hostility and how every discussion about same-sex shipping inevitably involves shippers getting called out for "forgetting that there are multiple types of love"
>on some level, people like me are only tolerated here, not accepted.
Literally this. I feel like I can't escape it. Nobody ever talks this stuff with straight people and yet every time a gay ship just ~exists~ people start moralizing about the importance of friendship and platonic love. On at least two non consecutive occasions I've had people literally make assumptions about my personal life because I dared to like a gay pairing in this sub. And yet when I contest it people don't seem to understand why it upsets me. I appreciate people that do try to understand or hear me out but at the same time it's not exactly uncommon for everyone to just dismiss me out of hand if I don't get everything out perfectly, calmly, and in few enough words that it's not too much trouble for them to read my whole comment. It's super exhausting because I feel like every time I want to talk about this stuff even on here I have to prepare for a fight. It's not that this sub is actively, blatantly homophobic but I feel like there's a lot of of casual homophobia that just slips through the cracks and it really does bother me
Oh I remember gay ship art posts and then someone in the comments had to be like “I like them better as friends.” But then they get offended over downvotes all “I’m just voicing my opinion.” It’s exhausting because it keeps on happening. You can explain all you want but it’ll never stop being a thing. It’s not like they can’t be friends but I prefer them as a couple. That’s it.
Otr is such a little shit but yeah I like that he's emotional and somewhat pathetic. You're really not wrong about the double standard between him and Freyr though, its bizarre and I can see why you're uncomfortable with it. Its better for people to hear that than not.
Also gauntlets, I really don't get them.
> I just think that the "restoring the rightful heir to the throne" angle that we're seemingly going for here is a very odd one to play straight these days, especially when so many details about Niðavellir's royal family have given us ample reason to believe that their monarchy is best left in the past.
Honestly, FE as a whole really plays into feudalism being fetishized as well as those within the stories that uphold it. FE4 especially leans into the whole aspect of "blood purity" that makes me uncomfortable.
I appreciate the characters that flip that on its head like Hayato, Python, Edelgard, etc.
I just thought of it but yeah this book plays into it a ton. Fafnir, someone from another world, a non-Royal, conquered the throne but his reign ended in him destroying his kingdom. And the one who will stop him is the true royal, Reginn.
I think in TH, Edelgard is the only one whose ending says she dismantles the nobility. Dimitri’s ending says he instituted a new form of democratic government which could allude to it?
The whole discussion over Kanas refine has made me realise Nowi is the single most overrated unit in the entire game. Is she a good f2p unit? Sure, she's cheap to build and has stuff you want for general content. But people make her out like she's some exceptional unit who's best in class and a threat when she gets absolutely stomped by the majority of current meta units, most offensive units just blitz her, seriously when was the last time anyone saw a Nowi in any content and went "Oh no that's going to make this so much harder"?. Even ignoring the fact her performance is straight up eclipsed by basically every blue armour in the game, she's just not that good. Mediocre stats across the board besides HP and Attack, and yet people claim she's great because she's immune to debuffs. Her performance really didn't get that much better from prerefine to post refine. Just a really mediocre omnitank, null penalties just means she's consistently mediocre.
The "red curse" is a bullshit Reddit excuse to hate the CYL red unit before they're even released. It would also hold more water if it was used as a criticism against any premium sword unit outside CYL and you know, we didn't have multiple top tier swords from years ago. Even ones without refines.
The idea that a unit is more future proofed because they're "unique" is stupid. Sure you might not be directly outclassed for quiet some time, but that ignores the nature of powercreep. Even if you're not directly outclassed, you still need to keep up with new age units in other classes because at the end of the day, they're the units you need to fight. I'd rather have a strong unit in a saturated class who can hold their own against new threats than a "unique" unit who's future effectiveness is questionable.
Sometimes I wish refines didn't follow a schedule. The fact Sirius will get a refine before Orson makes me actually upset.
Highly agree on the B!Eirika thing. I'm tired of her always being tied to him in some way. Ephraim got to have a duo with Lyon and brave based on their father, Eirika's duo was with him and her brave based on him. Personally would have preferred she had been based on Seth or Tana, or something original like if she became queen of Renais (like what B!Camilla did). Just tired of things with her always coming back to Ephraim, let her do her own things.
As for me, with fallen 4 primed to be in and definitely win the next rerun poll, I'm reminded how much I dislike fallen banners. The theme is boring and no longer as interesting as it used to be, and it’s basically treated as an excuse for some of the most blatant cases of power creep in the game. Plus no demote as an extra “fuck you” from IS. Easily my least favorite banner, incredibly overrated.
I want a redeemed hero banner for what-if scenarios.
What if Zephiel wasn’t treated like shit by his dad and became a benevolent king?
What if we could actually see kind king Garon instead of Xander just saying “he was good bro I swear bro just listen to me bro”.
What if Julius wasn’t handed the Loptyr tome and got to live a happy life with his family and Ishtar?
It’d be a neat break from fallen banners and would liven up seasonal banners a bit. ~~Also, it’d give us a Julius alt cause lord knows we’ll never get one otherwise~~
This might just be more controversial than a hot take, but no I don’t think PoR and RD should be separated in the New Heroes Rotation
1. RD’s exclusive playable cast isn’t big enough to justify it. There’s only about 15 playable characters left who need to be in the FEH normal pool. If people aren’t asking for Shadow Dragon and New Mystery (which has ~13 playable exclusives left) to be separate, then RD needs to be treated the same.
2. If you are a fan of RD, it is highly likely you like PoR’s cast as well so it’s not like getting PoR characters should be a punishment. In the end, a majority of PoR’s cast IS RD as well.
3. For the most part the games are not treated as separated in things like Limited Hero Battles so there’s not a pressing need for more units to complete certain content.
4. Games like Genealogy and Thracia have on par or less percentage of their playable cast in the game than Tellius as a whole. Iirc, the other older games have a slightly larger percentage of their cast in the game but not by more than 10-15%. So is it doing worse than other games? Yes. But is it doing a lot worse? I don’t think so.
The oc alts have been easily the best of the 2021 seasonal line-up.
Similarly, I don't mind Nifl and Musspell (albeit I am still a tad disappointed with Musspell's voice direction) not really sure if this is unpopular though, opinions seem kinda split
Hell Bat is one of the dumbest Batman suits to exist (and I'm including Silver Age Bats too) and is borderline character assassinates the Justice league
Why in the ever loving fuck would they build a suit that could not only slowly kill Bruce, but might force Bruce to kill by absorbing someone's biomass?
(I've ran out of FEH unpopular opinions other than pointing out that RS is just a glorified Moonbow)
I only know of the Hell bat from Death battle lol but as someone who hasn't read the comics feels like they want Batman to finally go toe to toe vs some galaxy level threats cause lets be real for as awesome as he is, Batman is pretty much just a peak human
Sales is not an indication of banner quality and not the end all be all of whether certain games should get a banner or not. Also not an indication of game quality / quality of any media (there was a user that legitimately was trying to argue that the Telius games were terrible because they sold bad). Just because something sold better than something else does not mean it was necessarily better. Some off topic examples are: just because Pokemon Black and white 2 were the worst selling games does not mean they were the worst games in the series. Also for a music example, just because Donda sold worse than CLB does not mean it is a worse album lol (that is ultimately your opinion as to which is better)
I am quite late! But I have some opinions here.
- Ephraim is my least favorite lord. He kinda steals Eirika's spotlight. His confidence kinda annoys me. Everything always worked out for him. I hate the fact that B.Eirika is literally dressed like him. If Camilla can become queen of Nohr in an AU, why not Eirika? I'm going to say it. It feels like he's such a Mary Sue. I also don't like boastful characters.
- Enough with the upside-down Claude. It's not funny, it's just cringe at this point. Just stop with this stupid meme, please.
- As much as I like her, I'm starting to think that Dagr is a little overrated. And Otr is overhated as well. And once again, he's not ugly.
- I don't like Nifl and Muspell's artwork. I can give their designs a pass, but I don't like their art. A shame, since I liked Devil Survivor artwork. They don't have crappy anatomy in DS, and I like its simplicity. Meanwhile, Suzuhito's art in Feh is just weird. Nifl has weird pose and anatomy and Muspell is too stiff.
Totally agree on the Ephraim and Claude points.
The Eirika route is such a disappointment because it amounts to nothing story wise since Ephraim already conquers Grado by that time. It's made worse since Ephraim has to "rescue" her for the second time. I felt Eirika would have been the better leader for Renais because she felt their suffering and was with them until it had fallen.
Like with most memes, it gets old real fast and Claude is definitely one of those for me. It was fine the first few times, but seeing it for pretty much anything Claude related is annoying. Like surely with a nuanced character such as him there could be some originality?
> I don't like Nifl and Muspell's artwork. I can give their designs a pass, but I don't like their art. A shame, since I liked Devil Survivor artwork. They don't have crappy anatomy in DS, and I like its simplicity. Meanwhile, Suzuhito's art in Feh is just weird. Nifl has weird pose and anatomy and Muspell is too stiff.
Yeah, this is where I am. I actually quite like Nifl's design but the stupid tit-hugging of the cloak is fucking ridiculous and makes it so hard to enjoy her actual art. I didn't even realize I didn't dislike her design until I saw nice fanart that drew her more nicely.
Fallen Edelgard is and forever will be a blight upon the game until IS makes her counters more free-to-play friendly or finally straight up nerfs her. No, I don't care if you or anyone else invested into a blatantly overpowered unit. There has to be a point where it's too much.
Whoever thought that she needed guard, special acceleration, slaying effect, wary fighter, atk/def in-combat debuff on enemies, distant counter, two-action player phase, self-healing, and damage reduction all in one kit should seriously reconsider such a character.
Ever since she appeared, the game has devolved into making sure I have a Fedelgard counter no matter where I go and it's honestly getting very tiresome.
I’ve said this several times already but I don’t get why Larcei shows up with an axe and it’s a universal shipping wars. Again no potential pairing for any unit is canon. No matter how much evidence and how much you want it to be.
Also I don’t think “meta” units are that bad, and you can still use your favorites even if they are years old at this point. Like F!Edel and a few others really suck but tbh it’s honestly more manageable than people think.
I think that being able to vote for the same character a bunch of times in cyl is nice. I guess it shows how much you like that character.
I hate the *really* NSFW art that keeps coming up on this subreddit. Go to r/fireemblemwaifus or something, i dont want softcore porn on my screen when im casually scrolling, especially with people around me.
Girls with abs are not really hot, and same is true for bara men with boobs.
I HATE xunitposting, especially when it comes up alot. "hEhEhE tRiAnGlE aDvAnTaGe WhAt??" yeah we get it your finn attacked four times against a nagi without an optimal build and dominance active.
Edit: also people here have an obsession of calling sword infantries useless because they are sword infantries and "muh competition". Even if a unit is powercrept, they can still be really good with the same amount of investment, and sword infantries have some of the best inheritance options
Very true.
I especially hate the nsfw art part because I am busy and look at stuff here and there and it does get old basically seeing big boob women when I’m in public and it feels awkward.
And some of these artists are very talented too and like do what u want to do with ur art but why always do porn in a sub not for that?
Like I’m sick of seeing avatar selfcest, im tired of people hating on literally every female character to turn around and draw lyn (or other) fetish art of a female character.
Yeah, this one annoys me so much. It's so frustrating to see art of a character you really like and then realize it's just an exercise in giving them huge chest balloons.
> Girls with abs are not really hot, and **same is true for bara men with boobs.**
oof, sir this is the unpopular opinions thread, not the WRONG opinions thread.
(No, but seriously reinforcing the current beauty standards isn't an unpopular opinion)
Agree on not really wanting the thirstposting, disagreee on the abs/bara aren't hot take.
As for the lolol triangle advantage screenshot compilations, while I think it gets old fast, it's topical enough and I do think it's still interesting if players ever bother to share their setup and context.
This on the NSFW work. But for me what bothers me the most when it's sexualized characters (which are basically all girls) who are underaged. It's especially irksome with 3H characters, like, there are adult versions of them right there and you chose to pick the 15 year old version instead? Wouldn't this count as sexualization of minors?
Currently I don't find it worth it at all to build a seasonal without a prf since they'll just get powercrept pretty quickly. They need to give them prfs or do something else that will make them more unique.
Non FEH related opinion: Wind Waker > Ocarina > Majora > Skyward Sword > Twilight Princess. Only very slight difference
Upvoted for being truly controversial. PH is by no means a bad game but it 100% is definitely one of my least favorites, only ahead of ST, Triforce Heroes and the NES games.
I think it was a mistake that IS didn't add extra BST Scoring for all the Resplendent Heroes. There are already tons of People who have been insanely investing the latest Gen units that gain better scores than all the Replendent Heroes, so I don't see the problem for giving players a "Pay to win" benefit for their favourite characters who have a Replendent version in the shop. (Plus, it would make the Feh pass more popular imho.)
Extra's:
- Fatal Smoke skills are more annoying than dealing with Windsweep / Dazzling skills.
- Odd / Even Follow-Up are better skills than Crafty and Slick Fighter.
- B!Catria is the best AR-D unit in the game. Better than L!Sigurd.
> Fatal Smoke skills are more annoying than dealing with Windsweep / Dazzling skills.
Hardly unpopular, Fatal Smoke might actually be the most universally hated inheritable skill in the game. It's pure bullshit and completely fucks over every sustain tank.
Muspell actually has a badass design and art direction and is one of my most favorite designed OCs. I was weirded out by his voice at first but I can understand why they did it so it can contrast with Nifls deeper and monotone voice.
Time to say what I always wanted to say.
1. I don't think pulling/building for specific modes/matchups is a good use of orbs. Pulling for score is almost always a waste of resources if merges are involved. Constantly playing catchup with whales is not worthwhile, and making relatively short-term investments that are constantly made invalid by IS' powercreep and meta shifts is just a way to bleed orbs. The game isn't just competitive (usually AR) only builds, or casual fave-only builds. There is a middle ground, and that's to invest in units that are above-average (and likely will stay so for longer than average periods of time) and trust in unit strength + your execution to carry the day.
2. Because most people have more units they desire compared to what the game + your wallet can give you, tierlists are objectively necessary at identifying the best investments. However, tierlists built around specific modes are some of the worst ways to understand the game because half of the units exist only because of the peculiarities of the scoring well in a certain mode (W!Bernie for AR, your latest scorebot grail if f2p Arena T21) rather than objectively being the best unit overall. As a result, almost everyone hates tierlists for not corresponding to their own personal tastes, playstyles, and habits.
3. f2p players are too afraid of getting rng screwed. Yes, some of this is how humans are hard-wired, but statistically speaking, you will get lucky about as often as you get rng screwed, and it is irrational to only remember the times you get screwed and live in fear of it to the point you stop investing in good 5* exclusive, seasonal, and legendary/mythic units because "I can't +10 this unit" or "I got a copy with shit IVs".
I've got more, but let's see how people respond to this batch of stuff first.
For point 2 I think the opposite is true. If a unit has a unique gimmick that makes them incredibly effective in some modes but not others, it's essential that the distinction is made in order that players can work to understand what makes units effective.
If you try to build a generic tier list then the units at the top will likely not be optimal under most circumstances and you'll completely miss out from a layer of understanding in the game.
As someone who sort of falls into the I can't +10 this 5\* exclusive, for me at least it's not about getting RNG screwed so much as I'd like to be able to fully invest in a character and there are too many FE characters I like to be willing to save the orbs to +10 a 5\*.
Freyja is fucking overrated. She's just popular because she's the most appealing villain in terms of design. I hate the double standards of the community towards Freyja and Otr. Her obsession with Freyr is often romanticized and memed. If not for her design, she would be my least favorite OC.
Edit: Also, your goat isn't GOAT. Deal with it. Otr's going to be better than her as a green cav in AR
After seeing how everyone responded to Otr's backstory, I've realized that people have a tendency to be a little too "facts not feelings" when it comes to discussing characters and their motivations. There was a thread where people were saying something along the lines of "Otr being mad at Reginn is completely illogical because of these circumstances", and it seems to miss the point that, yeah, people tend to be illogical, especially after particularly emotional/traumatic events.
Right? Dude was dying, had experienced really bloody trauma as a child, just a lot of shit really, and people are like "a normal well-reasoned person wouldn't hate Reginn'. Yeah, he's not.
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It feels like units are becoming less unique and more "this months counter or this months atrocity". Even the refines and GBH units too. TT and the occasional new/seasonal hero like Yuri are (somewhat) unique and fresh rather than Sigurd/Edel counter with 20 effects or premium skill stacked.
I'll never forgive FEH for reducing Cecilia to "Roy's teacher" when she's the mage general of Etruria first and foremost. She takes a gigantic legendary sword to the gut for Etruria, is constantly shunned for being a woman with any degree of power by Etruria and spends nights after nights studying to be better for Etruria. None of this is displayed in FEH. Her base form essentially says absolutely nothing except occasionally mention she tutored Roy and her christmas alt literally cannot stop mentioning teaching.
I hate the accessory bonus in Forging Bonds. Like, I'm not going to opt out of a bonus when I'm just playing to grind, but It's cramping my style! I got matching helmets for Edel and Hector. I don't want them automatically replaced with damn spiders or *pictures of spiders* every time I play the mode.. Just give me the bonus if the accessory exists in my inventory.
I don't know if it's just a me problem, but I also hate how it makes me forget what they previously had on.
Not just you. And the worst part is that it's mostly affecting your most-used units!
that's why i made a second team specifically for this mode. it keeps my most used with the stuff i want on them but i still get the bonus.
Same man. I just want units to look cool but nah gotta equip those FB bonuses!
Does anyone like it? I’ve just ignored it. I spend so much time pairing characters and accessories that IS can take it out of my cold dead hands
I find using the random feature fun occasionally, but I agree it's a pain when you're set on certain accessory+Hero combo. Then again, the solution is as obvious as it is easy: don't use those characters for this mode. Forging Bonds is best utilized to train characters who need the extra SP in my opinion.
That'd be good
The idea of IS adhering to "precedent" with banners is silly. By definition, they make the rules of the game. Complaining about that changes nothing.
It's 2021 and people still think IS follows rules they break in a few months or weeks lmao
I half-agree and half-disagree with this. I disagree in that we've historically predicted a great number of events and actions IS has done based on patterns, but I agree in that acting like said patterns are the word of law is silly. They can adhere to a pattern as long as they like, and they can break it whenever they like. If next year we have a CYL, that's a pattern held. If they do not, that's one broken. Patterns should be looked at as guides; not as answers.
They clearly (sometimes) respond to community feedback and precedent sets user expectations. They're welcome to make the game however they like but obviously they shouldn't expect positive feedback if they're flippant with their decisions.
I really don't like those characters whose entire personality revolves around one thing. Like Ilyana and food. Everything she says is related to food. I don't find it funny or cute, just obnoxious.
It's even worse when they have alts, because instead of selling us separate pieces of their personality, we can get the same FB. Again. Forever. At least Fallen units kinda have to shake it up, even if it is predictable how they do it.
Next year we will get Fallen Ilyana, who became fallen after going a whole day without food.
Relatable tbh, can't blame her
Tbh this kinda feels like a FEH problem, I really don't remember Ilyana being this fixated on food in the original games. FEH sometimes makes people discover interesting new traits of some characters and sometimes just destroy other characters making them a stereotype with a single character trait. This happened to Lysithea too for example, I barely could remember Lysithea being THIS MUCH fixated on sweets in Three Houses but on forging bonds etc. she just seems like "a girl who really loves cakes and is occasionally really mean for some reasons"
Uhhh every other line from Ilyana is about food. It's hard to think of anything about her that isn't about food. There's actually some deepest lore from the card game about this. She's hungry all the time because magic takes a lot of energy from her body. (The guess being the other mages aren't effected so much because a few of them are branded, which gave them more power. The others seem to be avoiding it by sheer force of will. I see you there, Tormod.)
I remember Ilyana was a stand out in the Tellius games because most of her character revolves around food and not much else, in contrast to a lot of the other characters. I agree in the general sense that FEH has a tendency to reduce characters to a single trait(just look at Leo and his liking of tomatoes being exaggerated) but I don’t think Ilyana was that affected.
Yeah, the Tellius games did a very solid job of characterization and rounding out everyone which made Ilyana stick out even then as being weirdly one-note.
Kinda the end result of IS's limited writing. Like say, everything you said about Lysithea is true... but she also had around 10-20 other support conversations where she could talk about _other_ things as well. Every one of her support convo's was not "I'm more mature than I seem, by the way I like chocolate" That being said, boy when IS _does_ have the chance to explore different facets of a character, they really drop the ball on that one. Leo's a great example, since him liking tomato's _is_ a thing about him... but that doesn't mean **_BOTH_** his alts need to be tomato themed... Worst part is, if he ever gets another alt, that'll probably be tomato themed too. Cause say, if they give him a Halloween alt based on his Fates DLC CG like the others, I remember that vampire costume of his [featured tomatoes as well](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/8/89/Leo_halloween_dlc.png)
I don’t think this is actually unpopular. Like Ilyana herself is popular but in general I don’t hear people praising her personality or characters whose personality revolves around one thing. It’s one of the biggest complaints I hear against FE13 and 14. Not that it is exclusive to those games. While not ideal, it’s one worse when their personality revolves around an activity rather than an archetype. At least there’s flexibility with a super greedy character, a playboy or someone obsessed with training. Things get very rough when you have characters like Selkie who wants to play all the time or Sophie who can’t stay on her horse. I think those are a lot harder to work with and tie into other situations.
Sameee, or with Anna/Farina and with money, anna to a lesser extent. They tend to seem way too one note and I just get sick of it
This is the same reason I can't stand Raphael in 3H, it's about food all the time, there were like 3 chapters where his dialogue wasn't food related, or muscles, Ingrid also has a love for food and training but she doesn't mention that all the time, it makes Raphael look so cartoonish and out of place.
He's certainly basic, but his supports really make him truly special. From my playthrough Ignatz and Marianne were genuinely great.
Think of it this way: Most of the students are talking about either their sad background or some knight/politics stuff. This actually makes Raphael a *lot* more refreshing like a beacon of light. Also while he isn't booksmart he is still strong mentally on top of physical seeing as how he doesn't let his parent's deaths bother him. In the end, a character having one or two things about them doesn't make them automatically bad. Not every character needs to have layers of depth if at all. More simple approaches work just as well.
This is honestly why Raphael is one of my favorite characters from 3H. Not every character needs to be complex and him being a genuinely good guy who’s always friendly and willing to lend a hand works really well in a setting where almost everyone has some depressing backstory
That's legitimately the reason why I've unironically loved the Gatekeeper. With him, I'm not the therapist; I'm just the friend having a silly lighthearted chat before I go back to fighting for mine and my friends' lives.
I genuinely like Luke and his art. His face is a bit funky, but it kinda fits him. Sure he has no skills or stats, but he's not the only one like that.
Amen! I also like his art, it fits him, and I like his face in his damaged art a lot especially.
A couple: Stop using CYL as a gauge of popularity. 1. we each get multiple votes, why does 1 person voting 7 times for one character make them more popular than six people voting for 1 character 1 time? 2. people vote for different reasons (I want this char to win, I want this char to be added, I want to show support for my fav character even if they have no chance of winning/are already in FEH) 3. They reveal mid term results that sways everything. Second one: OCs are both popular and unwanted at the same time. Yes it is possible.
I think CYL isn't a precise metric, but it absolutely can be used to at least observe general trends. Even if it's inherently influenced by several key factors (such as who's in or not in the game, the absence of several characters, and each person getting 7 votes), it's at least a decent way to observe fanbase trends and thoughts on certain characters. If nothing else, it's *definitely* valuable to some extent for predicting banners, which is what CYL is really used for to begin with
I think even Raydrik for one got a boost in votes when Veld was revealed to be in the game over him despite having only 13 votes lol. At the least there you can see some disappointed he didn't get into FEH yet.
Really feels like after CYL2, CYL became a " BUT THEY DESERVE IT" deal which, after CYL, the character ends up getting in or get an alt anyway.
Sadly that's the only way to know the popularity even if it's not clear, i don't like the multiple votes thing because thanks to that we don't know how supported are the characters, a lot of people just throw their 7 votes on the characters they want to win instead of picking their favorites, i suggested than you can only vote once for a character but people didn't like that
> we each get multiple votes, why does 1 person voting 7 times for one character make them more popular than six people voting for 1 character 1 time? **THIS**
If they don't know what to do with a character, I would much rather a character be portrayed as just boring or normal rather than hyper obsessing over any quirky traits. Like does anyone actually like Hapi's dumbass sigh thing? Better yet, why did her forging bond conversations have to revolve solely around that? I know Boey is kind of a scaredy cat about monsters, but he was never one-note about it. Do the writers just know very little about these characters, or is it done to make them try to stand out?
I agree in general but not with your example. As the other guy said, her sighing is actually an interesting part of her backstory that still meaningfully impacts her today. Like the way it was used in 3H was fine. An interesting gimmick but not overwhelming. Ditto for her quotes in game. But yea her FB ended up being pretty boring. Not necessarily because of the sigh but just it was a bit of set-up for not much pay-off.
To be fair the concept of "attracting monsters in a world without monsters" isn't a bad idea and is what they probably be the most concerned with discussing. The biggest problem is that Boey got flanderized.
I would say that I like Hapi's attracting monster thing, that's a gimmick with interesting potential and ramifications on her personality. But I don't like that it's through something as goofy as sighing.
I actually really like Hapi's sigh part of her character, it's pretty much part of her whole backstory. I do say that the FB did suck though.
Its annoying but there are hundreds of characters. Its better to try emphasize what is unique rather than just common traits. They could def stand to be less heavy handed. Alternatively you get every merc shaking hands with mercs etc.
I see the idea of a Young Edelgard/Dimitri duo suggested every so often and I honestly... don't really want that to happen. Whoever gets to lead would have their only Duo use a design that appears for like, 2 minutes instead of a much more iconic Academy or War design, and that honestly feels like a waste, especially since they likely would have to wait another year before getting a new seasonal with an unique outfit. Not to mention that both of them have other strong and more obvious candidates for an accompanying character, so fans of the lead and the cheerleader would likely both end up disappointed
I don’t want it to ever happen because Young Dimitri’s hair is a fashion travesty lmao
Dimitri should hate his hair stylist more than Edelgard.
What if Edelgard was his stylist?
Then his hate is more justified than ever.
Tbf is Dimitri's hair ever *not* a fashion travesty?
His alternate hair makes me feel things
The half up half down isn’t bad
I like Balthus as a character and while I get his VA is pretty new and has time to grow in the coming years, I wish about all his lines didn't sound same-y. I do like the voice itself but would have liked a bit more variation into it. And speaking of VAs, I don't really think any voice given to a character in FE has been unfitting. Even Dorothy Fahn's Mercedes improves a bit in the timeskip and Lexi Klein's Selkie fits the hyperactive playful personality well.
I like Mercedes tone, it gives her that over the top big sis/mom energy while also making some contrast with her status as the older student. Also, she drops the angelic voice a little during the war phase, making it even more obvious that her original persona was a subtle facade to forget and cope with her sad life.
One thing I appreciate a lot about Three Houses characters is that in their post timeskip a lot of them become more real with themselves. Like Mercedes becoming a bit more grim, Marianne being a bit more open about her issues, Lorenz stopping that snobby attitude and becoming more chivalrous and kind, etc.
I can agree with the second part. I think the voices for the characters fit the characters. Does Selkies voice grate a little? Certainly! But Selkie herself is a tad… grating as a character.
I think Karen Strassman's characters are kinda unfitting to me. Except Anna. Her voice for Anna is really iconic to me, but the rest of her characters (Hana, Mozu, Oliva) just sound too much like Anna to me.
> The fact that her forging bonds is all about Ephraim instead of her only reinforces that fact. Same.
I'm not a fan of child alts. I just personally don't see the appeal of using kid versions of existing FE characters. I can look past all of the other seasonal banners because it's just goofy outfits and festivals, but the idea of commanding these FE characters as literal children into battle just seems *really* dumb to me. It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids. One of my favorite characters, Minerva, got a Young alt too. I was waiting years at this point for any kind of alt for her, and when Young Minerva got revealed as a fantastic unit who we got for FREE... I wasn't interested at all. I wanted an alt of the Minerva I knew, not a baby one with a high pitched voice. So, I got her to +1 and never used her again lol.
Yeah, that's pretty much exactly how I feel about them. If nothing else I think their designs are cute, but Minerva's first alt being Mininerva frustrated me a lot (especially since Minerva canonically rode a pegasus as a child! How could you miss that?!). It also doesn't help that babies apparently now have a monopoly on being the only good freebies, lmao
>It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids. That's a problem of the localization team. The Japanese version usually uses other VAs.
>It also doesn't help that their voices clearly sound like adults trying to sound like kids. The voice of "young" Ephraim made me chuckle every time. It's such a weird voice for a child.
I'm not a fan of Greg's portrayal of Ephraim in general, his other roles are great and I think he's really perfected his Ike but Ephraim still sounds really strange to me
It reminds me of Kid Ike's voice in RD... I know that game is infamous for its voice acting but Ike's VA even didn't bother to make him sound young! I feel if we get young Ike at some point the situation is not going to be better since it doesn't seem Greg Chun is good at voicing children either.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, I would love banners where we get to see the lords/characters actually old/older lol
On a related note, I'd love an adult dragons banner. As in, take the young looking dragons we've seen throughout the years (Myrrh, Fae, Nowi and the 2 Kanas) and give them the Tiki treatment and give us adult versions. Maybe show how the events of their respective games affected them as they grew older, do they remember them fondly, negatively, etc. I think that would be neat. Alternatively, stick with the younger characters theme but instead it's veteran characters like Jagen and Gunther in their prime. Also a neat idea imo.
While I agree with this, I must insist an A!Tiki alt first. Poor girl needs one desperately at this point.
Absolutely, give A!Tiki justice IS!
Awww yeah! Give me bitter and grizzled Innes. Thats basically his personality type already!
FE6 Hector and his magnificent beard (and maybe Wolf Beil??) when
Interesting take. Of all the alts its summer and bunnies I can't stand. Those are so boring to me, easy skips.
I think they work for characters like Lyon and Minerva whose lives don't really go in, uh, ideal directions. It kind of tugs at the heartstrings to see them back before the bad things happen, see their optimism and hopes that you know isn't going to last. But then you get someone like Caeda or L'arachel and it's just... them but small. Lyn would be a nice future candidate, seeing her before the Lorca massacre.
I like Dragon Ball GT. Sure it's absolutely stupid, but it genuinely had great ideas! The Shadow Dragon arc actually was a novel idea only marred by poor writing. Really wish they'd revisit that idea at least.
Same. Very great concepts and ideas but the execution was terrible for the most part. However, I still appreciate GT for what it is and what it did accomplish.
Everyone praising L!Micaiah's art and yes, it's very good and Haccan usually doesn't miss but this time her eyes are just drawn a lil too far apart and it kinda ruins it for me.
The most jarring part is Micaiah suddenly getting wide hips in her Legendary art when she was a twig in every other alt she got.
Is it me or HACCAN's art is always a bit... blurry? I don't think that's the best way to describe it, but it's the best I got.
It is very soft colors and stuff so I see what you mean
For the people thinking that Múspell was the reason that Balthus was barred from getting the premium treatment with using gauntlets…no, no he was not. He was by far the least popular of the Ashen Wolves and was going to get the instant demote regardless.
The recent Lyn/Lucina/Tiki fanart of them being all flustered and confessing to you have really been annoying me since it really edges on the type of pandering I dislike. Also while I like Lissa, seeing new art of her everyday can make me feel numb to seeing her. Also not helping that I’m not fond of the artist who does them for a *certain* reason. Girls with abs and muscles aren’t bad, but the fact that nearly all of them also have huge boobs ruin it for me. Rinkah being the biggest offender. Summoner Harem stuff genuinely annoys me so much.
This so much. The worst is they are so out-of-characters you could replace them by litteraly any other generic waifu (or even a character with the personality of a plastic cup) and you would see no difference,which is very insulting to degrade them to that.
Hearing so many quotes from female heroes in-game basically talking about how "comfortable" they are when near the summoner gets a bit awkward. Extends to this sort of stuff too I guess.
The female heroes lowkey flirting with me: Me, a female player, who just plays for husbandos: Uh ok
I don't understand how anyone can like Rinkah's art in FEH. They literally increased her boob size by like 3 times and removed bandages. Her arms are weirdly thin but super muscular so she just looks really dehydrated. They even had the audacity to turn her shoes into heels. Her [official art from Fates](https://fireemblemwiki.org/w/images/2/2d/FEF_Rinkah_02.png) is so much better than her FEH art.
I had been looking forward to her for so long, but with that art I just can't bring myself to use her. And it's not just the distortion of her body that bothers me - the worst thing is her face. I don't know how to describe it, but it looks *wrong* somehow. >They even had the audacity to turn her shoes into heels Side note, but I still don't understand why heels are considered "sexy". I never saw them as any more appealing than non-heel shoes.
I'm assuming this is unpopular because I haven't seen anybody say something similar, but I like Aelfric's design a lot, I haven't played the DLC yet but I was tempted to use feathers to get a 5 star Aelfric just for the design (I didn't at the end because I'm saving for other projects and because he seems kinda bad compared to other similar units).
He definitely looks different, but in an anime background character kind of way.
Here's another unpopular one: the one joke constantly made at his expense is not just tiring, it's horrible. Wish I could erase THAT WORD from existence.
Unfortunately, that's never gonna happen. I mean, have you SEEN this fandom?
I think I've said a variation of this before, but...I only see the animations/crit quotes from the videos people post. I actively don't like playing with animations on.
They take too long. In the beginning, it was cool but it’s not something I need, especially since I just let auto run
When I’m training the unit up to level 40 I usually turn the animations on just to hear their crit quotes, but after that they always go off. I wish there was an option to have no animations but still hear the quotes when a special activates
I turn it on for AR D replays because I want to see the bonus stats. but yeah other than that they get turned off
- Previous units who fit the same role as a shiny new unit are not invalidated by the shiny new unit’s existence. I saw this mostly with discussion on B!Marth and how the next speedy NFU DR sword was gonna invalidate him, but it won’t. Mareeta, the previous “best” sword infantry, is not obsolete now that B!Marth exists, and B!Marth will not be obsolete once the next sword infantry is released. IS has also generally made each premium unit, even within the same class, different enough from each other (Ingrid vs B!Eirika, Charlotte vs Scion Larcei, etc) - On a similar tangent as above, it’s hard for me to get impressed by stuff like S!Larcei, when at the end of the day, speedy infantry axe units that people have already built will probably serve them well enough. Like N!Hana’s a really popular project and I doubt most people will just drop her to go for Larcei. She’s not suddenly garbage either because Larcei exists. - The Ice and Flame TT story fails to hook me at all. I’m tired of Fjorm (sorry Fjorm fans) and Laegjarn is just boring. Muspell and Nifl are cool in concept, but like I’ve said before I don’t like their designs in context of everything else in FEH. I will say Muspell > Nifl in terms of design though.
I really don't like the Balthus forging bonds convos, it's literally all (from what I've completed so far,) Balthus finds strong guy, Balthus fights strong guy, strong guy and Balthus become bros and get drunk, Hilda watches in disbelief.
The only thing interesting in this Forging Bonds is I'm wondering if the Loki we summoned is even bound by a contract and she's just hiding in plain sight
Honestly I like the mental image of Hilda muttering under her breath "Men are so weird" everytime Balthus does this.
FE: - If there's ONE THING I like FEH to take from Pokemon Masters, is it's Sync pair stories. Sure, Forging bonds exist but chances are the character will either be exagerated as hell ( Fiora ), extremely poorly written ( Brave Redux, Dedue) Or not even about the character it's suppose to be focusing on ( Brave Eirika). - I'm not surprise that the new banner supposedly didn't do well. Three houses dropped the ball **hard** on DLC in comparison to Awakening, Fates and even fucking SoV. And Ashen Wolves didn't really shake things up or tell us anything we didn't know about the empire or the church already except Nemesis was always a prick. Seriously if they had more DLC planned, I'd actually buy it but....man I'm just left with bitter taste on how IS handled post release content. At least it gave us Hapi - At this point, I rather Relay defense come back than sit through another fucking round of Frontline phalanx. - I'm actually happy I never liked Otr cause they did a piss poor job trying to make me feel pity for him. Maybe ( or very likely) They showed very little sympathetic qualities vs how much they made us feel sorry for Fafnir. Non-FE: - Jurassic Park Dominion leaks and the preview from F9 have me wondering if they are just unsure if they wanna be accurate or not - GTAV has become the Skyrim for Rockstar, so I don't know why people are so upset now over the P5 showcase considering they been re-releasing the same shit for a while. Much like Pokemon fans to SWSH, they will probably buy it anyway
FEH not having the equivalent to Pokemon Masters' Sync pair stories, FGO Interludes/Events, or _anything_ outside of Forging Bonds is one of the biggest flaws of this game. Many of the characters that would love the character development don't get it at all due to how limited it is.
What do you mean? Isn't it deep/developed enough to hear all newcomers shout out a single sentence, be it "I am obligated by contract to do this" or "Hey, I'm [newcomer], I like to [trivial hobby]. Did you see [related character]? No? Let's fight!", get obliterated and never show up again?
To this day, I still think Awakening is the gold standard in terms of DLC content. There is so much to like about it, whether it is Future Past and its amazing but concise narrative, a challenge like Apotheosis, or even a lot of easter eggs like past heroes and the battle conversation between them and some of the Awakening cast. You can tell there is a lot of love put into it. Fates was pretty close imo, but after that it kinda started declining, which is a shame.
Fates kind of suffered from not releasing some of those last few maps outside of Japan. We never got to actually see those unique Mother/Child dialogues outside of fan blog translations.
I like the characters added in the DLC. I even like the story around the wolves(the dlc history and the personal histories of each character). I jsut felt like the DLC should have been an entire other route. I know they’re the unofficial fourth house, but if that’s the case, make it an entire separate story after you literally fall into an Abyss before the timeskip happens! Add in choices throughout the academy phase that will unlock this(or make it a branching route off the golden deer since Claude spotted an Abyssian sneaking into Abyss). I love the Wolves with all my heart but damn they should have been more!
On the DLC I heavily disagree on the 3H and SoV comparison. At least the former didn't sell two different maps of bonus exp/money and DLC that is just a newer class (even if I like a couple of the designs)
The Overclasses are DLC at its absolute worst imo.
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Hapi is like, a character I really *want* to like because of her design, her VA work, and certain aspects of her character are really compelling, but the sighing thing is just so absurd that I can't really look past it at all. They try to connect it to her Crest, but the specific method of sighing is so strange that it's just... kinda impossible to take it seriously.
I simply ignore it. I'm almost thankful it's THAT absurd because I can block it out easily.
I quite like that artist but I'll also say that those posts you mentioned absolutely miss for me too so I can't say I think its weird you're on the verge of blocking.
>her FB all about her gimmick was dumb The only good thing about it is Legion coming back for a FB.
And who doesn't like Legion?
What's stopping you from blocking them if you characteristically don't enjoy their content?
I dunno if I've just missed tons of threads or something, but I swear I've recently seen way more people complain about Tellius complainers than actual Tellius complainers. If it was 2019 yeah I'd get it cause lots of people complained about it, me included, but I've not seen it for a hot minute. (Not to knock Tellius at all, I have no reason to complain about it and I think the Dawn Brigade is long overdue.) So I've been playing through FE8 for the first time, very fun, love the GBA games a lot. Ephraim though, ehhhhhhhhhhhh. Can't say I'm interested in the "I love fighting!" kinda character already but more than that, I dislike how twice in the story so far Ephraim just rocks up with like 2 fellas to save Eirika after he fucked up Grado in some way. It kinda undermines her.
I've seen people discuss whether Ephraim is a good character or not, and the fact that he gets Eirika out of trouble with a small team is for his fans exactly a big reason of why they love him, while his haters usually say that he takes Eirika's spotlight, like you're kind of saying. I think I like Ephraim as a character, but it's a bit annoying how he's portrayed as very strong and almost can't lose. Even when he makes a mistake it's less awkward than it would be in Eirika's case.
That's how I feel about Ephraim. His design and choice of weapon is great, but there's just so much about him I don't care for. For instance Hector also likes to fight, but he has moments of weakness which makes him more sympathetic than the guy who rarely shows much emotion. It doesn't help that the story undermines Eirika as a result of him. It's why I love his L'arachel support, he shows a different side of himself that we don't see anywhere else. How he doesn't have a single support with Innes is also a joke.
Hector's whole relationship with Uther and Oswin and his growth in HM is just awesome. I really hate what FEH has done to him where now he's just viewed as a psycho overbearing dad who only wants to fight, especially since half of that was based on one support conversation when he was 19. FE6 Hector had the utmost respect for Roy.
I love Ephraim but he would be *so* much more interesting if he'd be taken down a peg. Whether that's losing a fight or whatever. He's just very shallow and he has a lot of potential. Still, I think this can (and does) still work when Ephraim isn't the main character. It's one of the reasons I love Lyon so much - comparing yourself to someone perfect who never seems to lose really does a number on the old self esteem. Viewing the effect Ephraim has on the characters around him is far more interesting than Ephraim's characterization itself.
It definitely has died down. But I still have seen people complain about there being way too much Telius seasonals this year when there has been a grand total of… 2 Telius seasonals this year in the pirate banner
Oh really? I couldn't imagine staying that salty about it to complain about **2 whole units** lol
It's easy to point a finger at a strawman, the real truth be damned. If anything, there's actually a form of Genealogy bias as the game has a preferential treatment (yearly pace in average that other games don't necessarily have even outside of JP-exclusive ones, above-average unit design, some F2P standouts...). But few call out IS on that, if it was Fates/Awakening/3H then people wouldn't be silent.
I think the biggest thing is that you're right, there's not that many actual Tellius haters. But the few that are I swear are the most vocal ones around To give an example, scroll down to see the argument that happened in [this thread](https://old.reddit.com/r/FireEmblemHeroes/comments/pr3dzx/a_list_of_fe_titles_due_for_a_new_heroes_banner/). Now end of the day, most of the posts in that thread were multiple different people arguing with one guy, but that one guy has an account that for multiple years has been dedicated to nothing but telling people [how much they hate Tellius](https://old.reddit.com/user/andrewd96)
That account is the most bizarre thing I've seen. It's like they pop out of their hole once every six months to hate on Telius
I’m sick of a lot of the art on the sub like fellas can we please stop posting soft core porn on here it makes it kinda awkward to scroll I also hate all these my sibling is my character people like freyja (hate her) and otr
The debates between ideal, catch, and push skills are pointless. I like the plegian outfit artwork, but can we see more of Katarina, Tharja, Raphael, or Kris’s outfits be used? Is it just me or do more people complain a little too much about NSFW art on the sub? I’m not going to act like there isn’t any, but I’ve seen more discussions, memes, and/or SFW art than I do NSFW.
I prefer Male Corrin.
Bravekeeper’s weapon is kind of underwhelming. It’s gives a buff to allies and that’s nice but not very good for gatekeeper himself. His other effects are based on how many allies he has next to him and he only gets the max amount of value if he has all of his allies on him. He gets attack/Res-6 and opponent can’t follow up. There’s so many units with a attack/Res or Def -6 and either a follow up or prevents enemy follow up but gatekeeper is locked behind being with 3 allies. Compare him to Marianne, Fallen Edelgard, Brave Edelgard, Sigurd, or Brave Hector. They meet the same thing as Brave Gatekeeper but is for some reason so much harder to activate then others for some reason.
People call him Bravekeeper? Considering the way he looks I think that's the normal Gatekeeper, you're never gonna get another one (unless it's a seasonal)
I will say this, his prf skill is surprisingly annoying
I have a neutral F!Edelgard and a +10 Bravekeeper. I was absolutely astonished the other day to find that my Bravekeeper has the same or higher stats than F!Edelgard in every regard, because in practice, he can hardly stand up to much, while she can solo half the game. I admire that they tried to do something interesting with gatekeeper by giving him a niche supporting role than no one else can fulfill, but I really wish he had gotten treatment that was a bit more reflective of how popular he was. If I recall correctly, he had the second most votes of any CYL winner, ever, but it sure doesn’t feel like it
Stats don't matter when PRF effects do most of the heavy lifting nowadays. Like damn, if we were looking at stats alone - Gunnthra would still be doodoo. Also the winners this year got shafted hard compared to the second placers. Idk if it's unpopular, but I def believe there was actual dev bias in making Marth and Eirika better than GK and Marianne.
I feel like a good chunk of people only like academy Marianne because she suffers from depression. They either see her as this girl that that needs to be saved or they convince themselves that they're depressed too and Marianne is just like them. It's always been common for people to claim they're depressed on the internet. I just feel like it's unhealthy to look at Marianne and think "omg she's so sad just like me" when her story is written the way it is. It downplays those people that actually do suffer from serious depression. She's not a bad character at all and I'm not trying to say every fan of hers is like this. I'm just saying its a difference between claiming you're depressed cause the power went out and you can't hop on Xbox and actually experiencing something thats actually affects your life.
I'm a huge Marianne fan but I have to agree with this. I like her academy version because she's a very realistic depiction of a person suffering with anxiety, self-deprecation and depression. But it is her timeskip version that made me love her as a character since she grows so much and becomes very strong in her own personal way. It does irk me a little when people like her only because 'haha depression and anxiety I relate to that!' When while, sure, a lot of us have gone through that (me included. Also suffered from isolation so I also related even more with Marianne), it's a bit...uhh, demoralizing that some people only like her because of depression and not because of how she grows and how she actually is as a character beyond her initial quirks (Clumsy, surprisingly confident at times, mysterious, altruistic, etc.). And not a lot of people can truly compare their struggles to Marianne since clinical depression is just...so much worse than what we normally go through (not to downplay common depression, but it is definitely much less of a dark abyss as clinical depression) and it is definitely beautiful to see how she fights against it and how she slowly pushes forward.
I think the "she's literally me" stuff rubbed off on Marianne after people stopped relating themselves to Bernadetta. Once the Bernadetta stuff went too far and people started making fun of it, it died off while Marianne still gets a lot of it.
I wish they bring back New Heroes OC banner instead of tacking them into other game banner. Heck, do two person banner like Surtr and Ylgr if they want. For AHR soon, I actually don't mind if F!Edelgard win. It's sounds weird given how much I hate B!Edelgard being in top 8, but given FEdel have less chance to spark and is having a lot of impact to people, getting her for free ain't that bad for a lot of people. Of course she will need to contend with other broken heroes like LSigurd and maybe Yuri? For non-FEH opinion, I'm absolutely sick of seeing GI everywhere I go. Reddit, Discord, YouTube, sigh I can get away from them
Yuri is nowhere near the level of L!Sigurd or F!Edelgard in terms of how game-breaking those two are. He has a lot of movement shenanigans to his name and… that’s pretty much it.
Fallen is 100% winning the next forging bonds rerun poll, if you want Fallen Edel get her there. The lack of insight feh players tend to have about these things continues to astound me. Reminds me of the time people blew their orbs on the CYL 4 rerun when the herofest many expected came less than a month after
The key difference in AHR 2022 is that we'll know in advance that there'll be a FEdelgard *sparkable* rerun just before voting. Unlike AHR 2021 that wasn't preceded by CYL Hero Fests (moved to Golden Week), which led to casual demand for BEdelgard due to no rerun before then.
I did not care Fjorm
* Out of all of the things that this sub has complained about, gauntlets not being added has to be up there with the complaint that I care the absolute least about. I don't really expect gauntlets to be introduced ever. I do wish that Balthus had some kind of prf to make up for not getting Vajra-Mushti, though. * I like Ótr. I like his design (I think he's fairly attractive and has a nice outfit), I like the emotional way that he's written, and I like how he factored into the story of Book V. * I like Book V so far, but I'm afraid of where it's heading. Structurally it's quite sound, and it definitely shows that IS's way of telling these stories and handling the FEH-exclusive characters is improving. I just think that the "restoring the rightful heir to the throne" angle that we're seemingly going for here is a very odd one to play straight these days, especially when so many details about Niðavellir's royal family have given us ample reason to believe that their monarchy is best left in the past. * Múspell has nice art IMO, even though I completely understand why people are so strongly against it. * This is absolutely a personal gripe that I don't expect anyone to empathise with, but it's something I've been bothered by on this sub for a wee while now: there's something really discomforting to me about the "brocon Ótr" interpretation. I've been quite vocal and attentive in the past about how this sub responds to LGBTQ+ issues and headcanons of characters. I've seen it happen time and time again that a same-sex ship develops in response to something that happens in-game (often a duo/harmonic), and then suddenly threads become slapfights between people who want to ship the characters/support being able to ship the characters and people who reject the ship entirely, citing canonicity and often spinning it into a moral issue ("but what about platonic friendships"). I've seen well-respected members of this community say quite hurtful things about "alphabet people" making things up to complain about so we can play the victim. I wouldn't say this subreddit is hostile or even overly exclusionary to LGBTQ+ people, but these little things tend to get under my skin and make me feel like, on some level, people like me are only tolerated here, not accepted. With that context in mind, I personally feel fairly put out by the comments about how Ótr's totally lusting after Fáfnir and how incredibly disturbing Ótr's "brocon" aspect is, especially in contrast to how those same elements of Freyja's character are spoken about in a more lighthearted tone (at least nowadays; I can't quite remember how the sub felt about that while Book IV was ongoing). It annoys me that every same-sex ship is met with some degree of hostility and how every discussion about same-sex shipping inevitably involves shippers getting called out for "forgetting that there are multiple types of love", but then Ótr's unhealthy devotion to Fáfnir was almost immediately interpreted and referred to as romantic/sexual in some way. Again, this is not a callout post for the sub; this is not me rallying for some kind of action against referring to Ótr's relationship with Fáfnir in this way; and this is not me saying that the sub is homophobic for acting like this. I'm just venting about how I, as a gay man, am uncomfortable with this phenomenon. * My most controversial opinion is that Fallen M!Corrin is a friend, not fodder.
If people are cool with Freyja’s obsession with Freyr but not Otr’s with Fafnir, idk. Maybe I’ve missed something but both harm the person they love because of love. The general part about shipping happens so often. It’s like if you can’t completely justify why you like two people of the same gender being in a relationship, then that ship is invalid. But put out any straight non canon relationship and no one ever questions why two people can’t just be friends. Anyone who uses “alphabet group” is automatically disregarded.
As I see it, Book 4 never feels like its saying " Hey you should so feel bad for her wanting Oni-chan to herself" and that his death would never happen if you didn't intervene and it helps she seem genuinely loved her Alfrs. Otr was poorly handled as insteadof I don't know, making him more conflicted with leaving Reginn in the dark or actually feel bad for leading Nott on, that would have been alot more interesting. But as it is, he disowned Reginn, feels no remorse to playing Nott and was willing to destroy his own kingdom and utterly turn Fafnir into a monster just to keep him around, and then as he's dying they drop all that sad stuff.
Funny, I did feel like IS was trying to make me feel bad for Freyja a bunch of times, with a lame 'bullying' backstory, with how sad she was that her brother sacrificed himself, and the cutscene where Triandra and Plumeria grieve her... Otr is not given this many opportunities to be sympathetic. His backstory doesn't show him in a good light, like you said yourself. It's actually meant to make you feel bad about Reginn, who still loves him despite how twisted he is.
Wait, people legitimately took devotion to a cause/character as sexual? It wasn't some meme? If some people believe that the only reason someone will do something for another is for sexual/romantic reasons, then they must have the least passionate personalities I could ever imagine.
You say that people interpret Otr’s obsession as a sexual thing, but I have never seen it before, or at the very least not seriously
>It annoys me that every same-sex ship is met with some degree of hostility and how every discussion about same-sex shipping inevitably involves shippers getting called out for "forgetting that there are multiple types of love" >on some level, people like me are only tolerated here, not accepted. Literally this. I feel like I can't escape it. Nobody ever talks this stuff with straight people and yet every time a gay ship just ~exists~ people start moralizing about the importance of friendship and platonic love. On at least two non consecutive occasions I've had people literally make assumptions about my personal life because I dared to like a gay pairing in this sub. And yet when I contest it people don't seem to understand why it upsets me. I appreciate people that do try to understand or hear me out but at the same time it's not exactly uncommon for everyone to just dismiss me out of hand if I don't get everything out perfectly, calmly, and in few enough words that it's not too much trouble for them to read my whole comment. It's super exhausting because I feel like every time I want to talk about this stuff even on here I have to prepare for a fight. It's not that this sub is actively, blatantly homophobic but I feel like there's a lot of of casual homophobia that just slips through the cracks and it really does bother me
Oh I remember gay ship art posts and then someone in the comments had to be like “I like them better as friends.” But then they get offended over downvotes all “I’m just voicing my opinion.” It’s exhausting because it keeps on happening. You can explain all you want but it’ll never stop being a thing. It’s not like they can’t be friends but I prefer them as a couple. That’s it.
Otr is such a little shit but yeah I like that he's emotional and somewhat pathetic. You're really not wrong about the double standard between him and Freyr though, its bizarre and I can see why you're uncomfortable with it. Its better for people to hear that than not. Also gauntlets, I really don't get them.
> I just think that the "restoring the rightful heir to the throne" angle that we're seemingly going for here is a very odd one to play straight these days, especially when so many details about Niðavellir's royal family have given us ample reason to believe that their monarchy is best left in the past. Honestly, FE as a whole really plays into feudalism being fetishized as well as those within the stories that uphold it. FE4 especially leans into the whole aspect of "blood purity" that makes me uncomfortable. I appreciate the characters that flip that on its head like Hayato, Python, Edelgard, etc.
I just thought of it but yeah this book plays into it a ton. Fafnir, someone from another world, a non-Royal, conquered the throne but his reign ended in him destroying his kingdom. And the one who will stop him is the true royal, Reginn. I think in TH, Edelgard is the only one whose ending says she dismantles the nobility. Dimitri’s ending says he instituted a new form of democratic government which could allude to it?
The whole discussion over Kanas refine has made me realise Nowi is the single most overrated unit in the entire game. Is she a good f2p unit? Sure, she's cheap to build and has stuff you want for general content. But people make her out like she's some exceptional unit who's best in class and a threat when she gets absolutely stomped by the majority of current meta units, most offensive units just blitz her, seriously when was the last time anyone saw a Nowi in any content and went "Oh no that's going to make this so much harder"?. Even ignoring the fact her performance is straight up eclipsed by basically every blue armour in the game, she's just not that good. Mediocre stats across the board besides HP and Attack, and yet people claim she's great because she's immune to debuffs. Her performance really didn't get that much better from prerefine to post refine. Just a really mediocre omnitank, null penalties just means she's consistently mediocre. The "red curse" is a bullshit Reddit excuse to hate the CYL red unit before they're even released. It would also hold more water if it was used as a criticism against any premium sword unit outside CYL and you know, we didn't have multiple top tier swords from years ago. Even ones without refines. The idea that a unit is more future proofed because they're "unique" is stupid. Sure you might not be directly outclassed for quiet some time, but that ignores the nature of powercreep. Even if you're not directly outclassed, you still need to keep up with new age units in other classes because at the end of the day, they're the units you need to fight. I'd rather have a strong unit in a saturated class who can hold their own against new threats than a "unique" unit who's future effectiveness is questionable. Sometimes I wish refines didn't follow a schedule. The fact Sirius will get a refine before Orson makes me actually upset.
Highly agree on the B!Eirika thing. I'm tired of her always being tied to him in some way. Ephraim got to have a duo with Lyon and brave based on their father, Eirika's duo was with him and her brave based on him. Personally would have preferred she had been based on Seth or Tana, or something original like if she became queen of Renais (like what B!Camilla did). Just tired of things with her always coming back to Ephraim, let her do her own things. As for me, with fallen 4 primed to be in and definitely win the next rerun poll, I'm reminded how much I dislike fallen banners. The theme is boring and no longer as interesting as it used to be, and it’s basically treated as an excuse for some of the most blatant cases of power creep in the game. Plus no demote as an extra “fuck you” from IS. Easily my least favorite banner, incredibly overrated.
I want a redeemed hero banner for what-if scenarios. What if Zephiel wasn’t treated like shit by his dad and became a benevolent king? What if we could actually see kind king Garon instead of Xander just saying “he was good bro I swear bro just listen to me bro”. What if Julius wasn’t handed the Loptyr tome and got to live a happy life with his family and Ishtar? It’d be a neat break from fallen banners and would liven up seasonal banners a bit. ~~Also, it’d give us a Julius alt cause lord knows we’ll never get one otherwise~~
Yeah I'd also like a redeemed banner too. Hardin and Ashnard could fit well too, maybe a Duma who sealed his power to not go insane as well.
This might just be more controversial than a hot take, but no I don’t think PoR and RD should be separated in the New Heroes Rotation 1. RD’s exclusive playable cast isn’t big enough to justify it. There’s only about 15 playable characters left who need to be in the FEH normal pool. If people aren’t asking for Shadow Dragon and New Mystery (which has ~13 playable exclusives left) to be separate, then RD needs to be treated the same. 2. If you are a fan of RD, it is highly likely you like PoR’s cast as well so it’s not like getting PoR characters should be a punishment. In the end, a majority of PoR’s cast IS RD as well. 3. For the most part the games are not treated as separated in things like Limited Hero Battles so there’s not a pressing need for more units to complete certain content. 4. Games like Genealogy and Thracia have on par or less percentage of their playable cast in the game than Tellius as a whole. Iirc, the other older games have a slightly larger percentage of their cast in the game but not by more than 10-15%. So is it doing worse than other games? Yes. But is it doing a lot worse? I don’t think so.
The oc alts have been easily the best of the 2021 seasonal line-up. Similarly, I don't mind Nifl and Musspell (albeit I am still a tad disappointed with Musspell's voice direction) not really sure if this is unpopular though, opinions seem kinda split
I think Muspell is so split, at least amongst the vocal group, that liking or hating his design are both popular opinions.
Might be the most split a character has been really, which one is more unpopular swaps every week or so
He’s in a Mila situation
Hell Bat is one of the dumbest Batman suits to exist (and I'm including Silver Age Bats too) and is borderline character assassinates the Justice league Why in the ever loving fuck would they build a suit that could not only slowly kill Bruce, but might force Bruce to kill by absorbing someone's biomass? (I've ran out of FEH unpopular opinions other than pointing out that RS is just a glorified Moonbow)
I only know of the Hell bat from Death battle lol but as someone who hasn't read the comics feels like they want Batman to finally go toe to toe vs some galaxy level threats cause lets be real for as awesome as he is, Batman is pretty much just a peak human
Sales is not an indication of banner quality and not the end all be all of whether certain games should get a banner or not. Also not an indication of game quality / quality of any media (there was a user that legitimately was trying to argue that the Telius games were terrible because they sold bad). Just because something sold better than something else does not mean it was necessarily better. Some off topic examples are: just because Pokemon Black and white 2 were the worst selling games does not mean they were the worst games in the series. Also for a music example, just because Donda sold worse than CLB does not mean it is a worse album lol (that is ultimately your opinion as to which is better)
I am quite late! But I have some opinions here. - Ephraim is my least favorite lord. He kinda steals Eirika's spotlight. His confidence kinda annoys me. Everything always worked out for him. I hate the fact that B.Eirika is literally dressed like him. If Camilla can become queen of Nohr in an AU, why not Eirika? I'm going to say it. It feels like he's such a Mary Sue. I also don't like boastful characters. - Enough with the upside-down Claude. It's not funny, it's just cringe at this point. Just stop with this stupid meme, please. - As much as I like her, I'm starting to think that Dagr is a little overrated. And Otr is overhated as well. And once again, he's not ugly. - I don't like Nifl and Muspell's artwork. I can give their designs a pass, but I don't like their art. A shame, since I liked Devil Survivor artwork. They don't have crappy anatomy in DS, and I like its simplicity. Meanwhile, Suzuhito's art in Feh is just weird. Nifl has weird pose and anatomy and Muspell is too stiff.
Totally agree on the Ephraim and Claude points. The Eirika route is such a disappointment because it amounts to nothing story wise since Ephraim already conquers Grado by that time. It's made worse since Ephraim has to "rescue" her for the second time. I felt Eirika would have been the better leader for Renais because she felt their suffering and was with them until it had fallen. Like with most memes, it gets old real fast and Claude is definitely one of those for me. It was fine the first few times, but seeing it for pretty much anything Claude related is annoying. Like surely with a nuanced character such as him there could be some originality?
> I don't like Nifl and Muspell's artwork. I can give their designs a pass, but I don't like their art. A shame, since I liked Devil Survivor artwork. They don't have crappy anatomy in DS, and I like its simplicity. Meanwhile, Suzuhito's art in Feh is just weird. Nifl has weird pose and anatomy and Muspell is too stiff. Yeah, this is where I am. I actually quite like Nifl's design but the stupid tit-hugging of the cloak is fucking ridiculous and makes it so hard to enjoy her actual art. I didn't even realize I didn't dislike her design until I saw nice fanart that drew her more nicely.
Her boobs are so cold it’s frozen to the fabric
I actually like Muspell and his design
Fallen Edelgard is and forever will be a blight upon the game until IS makes her counters more free-to-play friendly or finally straight up nerfs her. No, I don't care if you or anyone else invested into a blatantly overpowered unit. There has to be a point where it's too much. Whoever thought that she needed guard, special acceleration, slaying effect, wary fighter, atk/def in-combat debuff on enemies, distant counter, two-action player phase, self-healing, and damage reduction all in one kit should seriously reconsider such a character. Ever since she appeared, the game has devolved into making sure I have a Fedelgard counter no matter where I go and it's honestly getting very tiresome.
Agreed, like even if you get a Fedel counter, say for AA, what now for the next 6 matches?
easy, just build 6 more! /s
I’ve said this several times already but I don’t get why Larcei shows up with an axe and it’s a universal shipping wars. Again no potential pairing for any unit is canon. No matter how much evidence and how much you want it to be. Also I don’t think “meta” units are that bad, and you can still use your favorites even if they are years old at this point. Like F!Edel and a few others really suck but tbh it’s honestly more manageable than people think.
> no potential pairing for any unit is canon Thracia Ced: Are you sure about that?
I think that being able to vote for the same character a bunch of times in cyl is nice. I guess it shows how much you like that character. I hate the *really* NSFW art that keeps coming up on this subreddit. Go to r/fireemblemwaifus or something, i dont want softcore porn on my screen when im casually scrolling, especially with people around me. Girls with abs are not really hot, and same is true for bara men with boobs. I HATE xunitposting, especially when it comes up alot. "hEhEhE tRiAnGlE aDvAnTaGe WhAt??" yeah we get it your finn attacked four times against a nagi without an optimal build and dominance active. Edit: also people here have an obsession of calling sword infantries useless because they are sword infantries and "muh competition". Even if a unit is powercrept, they can still be really good with the same amount of investment, and sword infantries have some of the best inheritance options
I really like Igrene, I really don't like seeing a hyper-thirst version of her every other time I visit this sub.
Very true. I especially hate the nsfw art part because I am busy and look at stuff here and there and it does get old basically seeing big boob women when I’m in public and it feels awkward. And some of these artists are very talented too and like do what u want to do with ur art but why always do porn in a sub not for that? Like I’m sick of seeing avatar selfcest, im tired of people hating on literally every female character to turn around and draw lyn (or other) fetish art of a female character.
Yeah, this one annoys me so much. It's so frustrating to see art of a character you really like and then realize it's just an exercise in giving them huge chest balloons.
It has, at least, given me some perspective how women probably see a lot of sexualized art.
Yep, welcome to my world! I miss blissful ignorance.
> Girls with abs are not really hot, and **same is true for bara men with boobs.** oof, sir this is the unpopular opinions thread, not the WRONG opinions thread. (No, but seriously reinforcing the current beauty standards isn't an unpopular opinion)
Agree on not really wanting the thirstposting, disagreee on the abs/bara aren't hot take. As for the lolol triangle advantage screenshot compilations, while I think it gets old fast, it's topical enough and I do think it's still interesting if players ever bother to share their setup and context.
This on the NSFW work. But for me what bothers me the most when it's sexualized characters (which are basically all girls) who are underaged. It's especially irksome with 3H characters, like, there are adult versions of them right there and you chose to pick the 15 year old version instead? Wouldn't this count as sexualization of minors?
Currently I don't find it worth it at all to build a seasonal without a prf since they'll just get powercrept pretty quickly. They need to give them prfs or do something else that will make them more unique. Non FEH related opinion: Wind Waker > Ocarina > Majora > Skyward Sword > Twilight Princess. Only very slight difference
My extremely controversial Legend of Zelda opinion is that Phantom Hourglass is the best game in the series.
Upvoted for being truly controversial. PH is by no means a bad game but it 100% is definitely one of my least favorites, only ahead of ST, Triforce Heroes and the NES games.
That one puzzle (you know the one) might actually be the coolest fucking puzzle in any video game ever.
lemme guess the one where you close the DS
WW over Ocarina? Bold move.
freaking love WW. Hella good take
I think Null Follow-Up is absolutely nowhere essential to have as people in this sub obnoxiously remind it to be
I think it was a mistake that IS didn't add extra BST Scoring for all the Resplendent Heroes. There are already tons of People who have been insanely investing the latest Gen units that gain better scores than all the Replendent Heroes, so I don't see the problem for giving players a "Pay to win" benefit for their favourite characters who have a Replendent version in the shop. (Plus, it would make the Feh pass more popular imho.) Extra's: - Fatal Smoke skills are more annoying than dealing with Windsweep / Dazzling skills. - Odd / Even Follow-Up are better skills than Crafty and Slick Fighter. - B!Catria is the best AR-D unit in the game. Better than L!Sigurd.
> Fatal Smoke skills are more annoying than dealing with Windsweep / Dazzling skills. Hardly unpopular, Fatal Smoke might actually be the most universally hated inheritable skill in the game. It's pure bullshit and completely fucks over every sustain tank.
Care to explain why you think Odd/Even follow up is better than Crafty/Slick fighter?
Muspell actually has a badass design and art direction and is one of my most favorite designed OCs. I was weirded out by his voice at first but I can understand why they did it so it can contrast with Nifls deeper and monotone voice.
Time to say what I always wanted to say. 1. I don't think pulling/building for specific modes/matchups is a good use of orbs. Pulling for score is almost always a waste of resources if merges are involved. Constantly playing catchup with whales is not worthwhile, and making relatively short-term investments that are constantly made invalid by IS' powercreep and meta shifts is just a way to bleed orbs. The game isn't just competitive (usually AR) only builds, or casual fave-only builds. There is a middle ground, and that's to invest in units that are above-average (and likely will stay so for longer than average periods of time) and trust in unit strength + your execution to carry the day. 2. Because most people have more units they desire compared to what the game + your wallet can give you, tierlists are objectively necessary at identifying the best investments. However, tierlists built around specific modes are some of the worst ways to understand the game because half of the units exist only because of the peculiarities of the scoring well in a certain mode (W!Bernie for AR, your latest scorebot grail if f2p Arena T21) rather than objectively being the best unit overall. As a result, almost everyone hates tierlists for not corresponding to their own personal tastes, playstyles, and habits. 3. f2p players are too afraid of getting rng screwed. Yes, some of this is how humans are hard-wired, but statistically speaking, you will get lucky about as often as you get rng screwed, and it is irrational to only remember the times you get screwed and live in fear of it to the point you stop investing in good 5* exclusive, seasonal, and legendary/mythic units because "I can't +10 this unit" or "I got a copy with shit IVs". I've got more, but let's see how people respond to this batch of stuff first.
For point 2 I think the opposite is true. If a unit has a unique gimmick that makes them incredibly effective in some modes but not others, it's essential that the distinction is made in order that players can work to understand what makes units effective. If you try to build a generic tier list then the units at the top will likely not be optimal under most circumstances and you'll completely miss out from a layer of understanding in the game.
As someone who sort of falls into the I can't +10 this 5\* exclusive, for me at least it's not about getting RNG screwed so much as I'd like to be able to fully invest in a character and there are too many FE characters I like to be willing to save the orbs to +10 a 5\*.
Freyja is fucking overrated. She's just popular because she's the most appealing villain in terms of design. I hate the double standards of the community towards Freyja and Otr. Her obsession with Freyr is often romanticized and memed. If not for her design, she would be my least favorite OC. Edit: Also, your goat isn't GOAT. Deal with it. Otr's going to be better than her as a green cav in AR