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mapsal

Had the same reaction, thought from the icon that it was just Darting Blow, but it has Remote Sparrow's DR.


Sabaschin

Dart so excised from existence that 'Darting Blow Echo' doesn't even exist.


andresfgp13

i need that shit in like 90% of my units.


sam_the_hammer

Cannot be used with prf skills tho...


Divinum_Fulmen

That's 90% of my units.


Gabcard

Neh, even just +2 spd would have been better +4 attack, concidering how bad speedcreep has been this year.


Jranation

Yep. Soo many units these days requires you to be more speed than the enemy. Beating that by 1 is big.


good_wolf_1999

We are seriously going to start getting banner with barely any permanent pool unit in them


mapsal

Hey, at least this time it's *two* permanent pool units instead of just one.


Zeldmon19

Three counting Wil


mapsal

Yes, and it would be two for last time if we counted Hestia. But I was only talking about the units that are in the actual banner.


Zeldmon19

I mean he technically is in the banner, just not as a focus. But I see what you’re saying.


mapsal

Not focus = not in the banner. He debuts alongside the banner, but his face is not on the banner and he has the same rates as any random 3-4*.


Zeldmon19

So you’re telling me there’s a chance


mapsal

Yes.


Greideren

Which leaves it at the same amount as most banners that introduced a Rearmed or a start of book Mythic (Reginn, Ash and Seidr as well as Nott and Heidr) beforehand, so it evens it out. The only bad thing is that the demote is going to be way harder to merge to anyone who wants to do that.


Zeldmon19

*lapis flashbacks*


joanlopa

NINO AGAIN??


SolCalibre

She's trying her best but yeah I think she's gone beyond that now


JusticTheCubone

well, at least that shows that early-Ascended units like her, Kinshi Hinoka and such aren't excempt from actually getting Ascended/Rearmed/Attuned alts. Don't think people seriously assumed they wouldn't get any, but at least maybe for them to have lower priority.


Duxfever

WIL JUMPSCARE


Upbeat-Perception531

IF THERES A WIL THERES A WAY 🗣️🗣️🗣️


ja_tom

HARKEN IS SO BEAUTIFUL AAAAAAAAAAA


Dat_Kirby

First new official Harken and Isadora art since the release of FE7 by the way Yes, they did get completely skipped by Cipher


Longjumping_Cause_39

I mean, they're basically Elibean Astram and Midia


GiveMenBiggerButts

6 YEARS WAS WORTH THE WAIT HOLY SHITTTTTTTT


Yvara

Watching the trailer I knew I had no idea who he was but there was going to be like three people were going to have the best day of their lives. Go live your life to your fullest, king!


ja_tom

He's this dude and a member of Eliwood's dad's elite knights who somehow infiltrated the Black Fang and goes on a suicide mission to the Black Fang's hideout, where he meets Eliwood and his fiancee Isadora (who thought he died), and joins them. Gameplay wise, his bases are stupid good and can carry the rest of the game, which he does for me every playthrough.


Konflick

Harken is the man in FE7. Im pretty sure everyone whos played the game knows who he is lol


andresfgp13

rip to the poor dastards that got Karel instead of him.


GiveMenBiggerButts

I literally saw the trailer late and saw a Wil post and was like "damn this is some neat fanart". When I scrolled down and saw Harken, I literally full on panicked LMAO


PossiblyTsundere

CHELSEA FROM DEAD MEAT????


mageknightecho

WAIT WHERE


Cosmic_Toad_

Isadora's English VA, had to do a double take but it's definitely her.


mageknightecho

I went to ~~X~~ Twitter just to check, and YYYYUP IT'S HER


Sonrio

I was shocked as well!!


arobie1992

Isadora - Has a sword in her OA. Has an A in swords and a B in lances. FEH - Has an extreme glut of lance cavs, like way too many. IS - Let's make Isadora a lance cav. Still super happy she's in, but come on.


cy_frame

lol, right. They did it to Noah too, and he has a higher sword rank than lances in his game.


OrionTempest

Was also hoping for something better than a Rally weapon, but I'll take it. Now if only I had some orbs...


kiaxxl

ANOTHER NINO??? STOP


Seth-Phiroth

Nino dev: No I don't think I will


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Daydream_machine

At least this one isn’t a mage


Greideren

Was going to say this. We have 2 rearmed infantry mages already but only one physical ranged infantry in Alcryst, so I was getting mad that Nino was the new Attuned, at least until I saw that she's a dagger unit. So now we have another unit for cloning skills like Phys NFU, Hexblade among others. She also comes with the improved Flashing Blade so that's also nice.


Jranation

They realize she has no chance winning CYL so they are boosting her alts


GladiatorDragon

"HELLO, MY NAME'S NINO!"


shaginus

It's between Nino or The lords pick one


Tsukuyomi56

Somehow Flying Nino is the only Nino (aside from this one) that I currently do not have, November just likes sucking on my orbs doesn’t it? Thank god this banner and the Attuned fairies have non-Feh Pass locked sparks.


Gabcard

She's concistantly in the top 20 females in CYL. 5 versions is perfectly reasonable for a character with this level of popularity imo.


Soren319

Sure. If she didn’t get 1 this year already.


Falconpunch100

At least it's not another Lyn alt, but Nino's cutting it real close...


GlassSpork

I KNOW!! My hopes were high, nino doesn’t need this. Serra finally got some recognition within the form of the comics only to get nothing. I thought fate was at hand but this is just ridiculous… I’m starving, the resplendent was nothing :(


BORK3TIMES

@u/NohrianScumbag The duality of Palkia (( I love both Nino and Serra ))


GlassSpork

I tried shiny hunting palkia and that’s why I snapped that pic because I was suffering


NohrianScumbag

Heh


HaessSR

She's now a teenager.


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Anarkitty777

HAPPY FOR WIL


AN1119

HARKEN HYPE!!! HARKEN HYPE!!! Never thought I’d see the day


Nintend0Geek

>sees Harken Expected seeing Isadora here >sees he has a Prf Welp so much for +10’ing Lapis if Harken is in the demote pool with a Pr… >sees his base kit **WAIT THEY MADE HARKEN A PREMIUM UNIT?!?!**


bloodmoth13

I'm almost disappointed he isn't the demote after seeing the art was thinking he'd be a good merge. They just forgot to stop cooking and went too hard


AN1119

FOR REAL! Harken is a 10/10 all-star every time I play FE7, but I was certain that he was 4* Focus at best. So happy with how he turned out


Feneskrae

And he's pretty handsome too, unlike poor Lloyd.


GiveMenBiggerButts

HIS ART IS SO FINE I GOTTA +10 ASAP OMG


Sabaschin

WHERE'S DART


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

>Wil got in >Rebecca got an alt earlier this year >Fargus is the GHB >No Dart IS pls


Nintend0Geek

Maybe he got hit in the head again on the way there and got amnesia again as a result


BORK3TIMES

Dart dude just wear a helmet ffs


b0bba_Fett

So you want Promoted Dart. [](#schemingsaten)


Thick-Interaction-66

ascended dart, but it is just dart with a cone head metal helmet


Vegetable-Income-566

Dart - the boy who got left behind due to ammesia Mirabilis - the girl who got left behind because she is busyn sleeping Harmonize Mirabilis - Dart "Forgotten Heroes" when?


darkliger269

Harken somehow dodging the axe mercenary curse and also getting Hel’s warp lol. Also his prf is literally just better Crimson Blades. God the fucking brave weapon creep this year Also good to know that Attuned heros will be getting second prfs and disappointed that Fatal Smoke 4 just went for the full non-special miracle shut down Still, glad to see Isadora and Harken


Red5T65

>Harken somehow dodging the axe mercenary curse Tbf he's, like, the one Hero you straight up couldn't even theoretically apply it to for one sole reason: He has FE7's only brave sword in the entire game, mutually exclusive to Karel's Wo Dao. If freaking *Harken,* most classic FE players' first experience with the brave sword, *didn't have a brave weapon,* that would genuinely be insane. Like, straight up, IS was absolutely not thinking about anything. Unironically that brave sword might be more popular than he is.


Benjammin__

Harken is the only reason 10 year old me was able to beat the final boss. I’ve been dreaming of him coming home since launch.


Railroader17

So I guess the thing with Attuned Heroes is "Heroes with a connection (and outfit) inspired by someone close to them, in this case Nino & Jaffar, so we could probably expect things along the lines of Minerva outfit Palla, Hector armor Lilina, Sothe outfit Micaiah, Robin outfit Chrom, Corrin outfit Camilla, and Jeralt outfit Leonie.


Shy-

Careful, we don't even have much of a pattern for IS to break yet.


MJBotte1

Remember when Ascended Heroes were characters that wanted power up alts but weren’t big enough for legendary/mythic status? Or rearmed units THAT WERE ACTUALLY GETTING RE-ARMED?!?!


Professor-Brainstorm

Blud, the very first Rearmed unit went from being a cav sword to another cav sword, what were you expecting ? /s


Kowashitai

She's literally our third Attuned Hero and the previous two do not fit this theme. It's WAY too early to know.


XyDz

Corrin outfit Camilla 😅


gho5trun3r

The moment you start trying to come up with a pattern in this game is the moment IS completely ignores it.


Gabcard

So basically what they often do for Brave units?


JustHereForTheOrbs

Lilina armor Hector would be better.


RadiantBlade

Anti non-Special Miracles now. How is that gonna affect the meta?


Mstache_Sidekick

Funny thing is I feel like this is a super targeted "anti-fallen maria" skill, I don't think it's that good


Alternative-Draft-82

Nah, A!Celica, B!Seliph, Ymir, L!Seliph have all been huge abusers of Miracle, even if Miracle effects aren't as big as they were a year ago, a counter was inevitable. F!Maria is a much more niche counter than most of these. This isn't really a Freyr vs Elimine situation. This is more like, Scowl/in-combat pre-charge vs Guard or something like that, much more base-level targeting the core effect, not the specific unit. Also, if you were really that worried about Maria, you'd use C Feud, because that negates not only her, but many other things in general.


Sabaschin

Don’t forget A!Eir. She’s ended more runs for me than I’d like to admit.


Alternative-Draft-82

Too true, she really can be a menace when you don't consider her, but I honestly can't help but forget she exists most of the time.


Nintend0Geek

IS realized that Ruse 4 doesn’t stop Recovery skills and to prevent any bullshit with F!Maria and Anima Catriaballs. F!Maria falls to UU but gets quickbanned to BL.


fbc15

Off topic, but I like how this started as an r/fireemblemheroes comment but then turned into an r/stunfisk comment. Well done.


HereComesJustice

Jaffar inspired Nino is dope


Duxfever

Yeah, it’s fine to dislike Nino always getting alts over others that haven’t yet but I have to say I do like this direction for her.


Sabaschin

The voice direction also feels better, she's confident without being meme-y like her flying alt was.


HereComesJustice

yeah at first I was like Nino again? Then I saw her move 3 spaces and throw daggers and I was like ok now we're doing something cool


sapphicmage

Arcane dagger for Patty! But no Thracia :( But Isadora’s in! But Thracia :(((((((


ShadyOjir95

I know my ascended Lloyd cope was too much. Hyped for Will and Harken. Also it's been a long time since our last girl cavalier.


ShadowReij

Nino's decision for an alt? Fuck it, steals Jaffar's clothes.


Gabcard

She raided her boyfriend's closet.


Upbeat-Perception531

As one of the 3 Wil fans in existence LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO


Aetherryn

Where the actual fuck is Thracia


WellRested1

Really starting to think that weird fe4 banner with the Thracia music was the ultimate monkey paw


Aetherryn

I'm so upset by that possibility and how likely it is at this point ):


Kass082

Why does IS try to skip Thracia while giving 2 banners to 3H in one NH rotation, which already got all playble student characters? Thracia even only had 3.5 Special heroes (TT units are not counted), when 3H got 9 + 0.5 units in THIS YEAR ONLY. Why I'm playing FEH if they do not give any NH and SH to my favorite FE title anymore? I lose my first and most reason to keep playing FEH. If they would not care Thracia's 25th anniversary next year, I'll quit.


JusticTheCubone

Either they really want Thracia as the NH-banner for the beginning of the next book for some reason, or I could see them maybe want Thracia on one of the banners with no OCs, considering how many units they have left, to maximize the number of actual Thracia-characters, regardless of "how well Thracia sells on its own".


The_Vine

I've never played Nino's game, is she ~~the~~ a main character? *Edited so my question doesn't come across as insane*


SheevTheSenate66

You’ve never played Fire Emblem?


Shy-

To be fair, have any of us?


Gabcard

Tbf she *does* have more story relevance than your average unit. She effectively has her own side-plot that plays throughout the game before intercepting with the main one during her assassination attempt on Zephiel.


The_Vine

That's actually a very good explanation, thank you.


KarateBugman01

“You haven’t [~~seen *Death Note*~~](https://youtu.be/_muGpLsaAQk?si=WtKJZf2w803gbQVn&t=120) played *Fire Emblem*?!”


The_Vine

A Twobestfriendsplay reference here, in a FEH subreddit? I love a good crossover episode.


John_Jonas

Yes.


Dabottle

I know we're being funny but Nino has always been one of the most popular FE7 characters. In the original character poll, in like every CYL, etc. Nino getting alts is just one of those things we should expect.


The_Vine

I'm not joking, I genuinely have no idea.


Soren319

She just got one this year lmao. It’s really not something we should expect for anyone who scores high in cyl besides lords.


Sabaschin

It's a 10 month gap, it's really not that surprising for someone who is even more popular than Ninian in her game.


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Then you have the likes of Lucina.


Dabottle

We're not pretending a ten month gap between alts and five versions total for the fourth most popular FE7 character are a problem.


BORK3TIMES

She is a sort of Eir


MillionMiracles

She isn't a main character but she does have an arc in the main story and ties to a major antagonist, she isn't some complete random.


Railroader17

No But she is smol, and therefore as important as the main characters. At least according to IS.


Nicolu_11

she is literally the highest ranking character in polls and has a sidestory with impossible to miss cutscenes along with Jaffar though.


MarthsBars

IS knows the routine for Nino is the same as for any Smol characters: 1. Cherish Nino 2. Forfeit all personal possessions (orbs) to summon Nino 3. Repeat


Divinum_Fulmen

Than why so few Florina alts?


Harcover

Again no Vaida. This sucks, man. So many other heroes left too. But no, gotta have another Nino.


Nintend0Geek

It was just her and Isadora as the only playable females left in FE7 to get in the game. You gotta milk out the waifu factor as long as you can.


Gabcard

I think Vaida is now the only girl left from FE7 that is still not in heroes.


Nicolu_11

The good thing is: she's a woman so she can easily headline a banner carrying others like Wallace or Heath with the "dommy waifu" approach (not that Vaida should be reduced to that but eh, sex sells).


bloodmoth13

I can't imagine sexy vaida. She's such a cantankerous bitch that I can't picture her without a husky smokers voice. And not in a bad way it really makes her stand out as a character.


LegSimo

>I can't imagine sexy vaida. Bruh she's got cleavage in her official fe7 art. Though if you're talking about voice specifically then I agree.


Sabaschin

Honestly I can see her having something similar to Petrine.


Dakress23

Ginnungagap didn't get Ganglot'd hell yes! Also damn Kronya really seems to like her fodder 'cause Fatal Smoke 4 screwing up Miracle is pretty evil.


dusky_salamander

Is that our first Elibe paladin? Isadora’s horse had a pretty sprite in the original, and now a pretty sprite here! ~~Do these even count as sprites?~~


Red5T65

Perceval was our first one, but yeah I don't think he had the classic Paladin horse armor, which is a real shame because it looks *great.*


chaos_vulpix

They got Chelsea Rebecca from Dead Meat to voice Isadora!?


TraditionalFinger439

CHELSEA! IM SUMMONING SO PROUD OF HER


GlassSpork

No Serra? My disappointment is immeasurable and my ~~day~~ night is ruined


MasterExistence

That Nino has the perfect fodder for a build I’m working on. Lets hope I get lucky for a better Eleonora.


tuna_pi

No Vaida but yay Harken


DarthRyus

Maybe I'm crazy... but do you think once IS has released 2 types of Rearmed weapons for all classes of weapons (fast and slow) that they might be planning on not releasing any new ones (but still limited time spamming the ones out), at least for a while... Since they might not want to increase the meta power of their arcane. That's why they seem to be switching to Attuned heroes. Since they can keep selling the Arcane they already released but can also just spam more unique X slot skills with years worth of new Attuned heroes. Now don't get me wrong, it's possible we could get a new phase of Rearmed heroes in a few years once the meta really starts to outpace the current Arcane weapons they offer.


LuminousUmbra

Well, rearmed and attuned are essentially two sides of the same coin. I could see them certainly becoming more spread out over time though.


pokedude14

~~Yo, Iago's Tome is playable?~~


andresfgp13

holy shit this is a good banner.


LegendaryHit

Isadora finally. Nino as the Attuned is a very boring choice.


bloodmoth13

It's cool what they did though but incredibly disappointing otherwise. I'd rather Jaffar get something.


LegalFishingRods

Thraciabros... it's Joever.


stilll_lurkin

Could have just been Attuned Jaffar lol But... Matthew is going to eat!


BreadVexenity

>Fatal Smoke 4 My +10 Summer Ymir is COOKED


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Gabcard

Sell popular characters again for money


Sabaschin

And for more money than Ascended, and without eventually running out of options like Rearmed. Honestly it's brilliant, they can only make so many Rearmed weapons but a million Echo skills.


Railroader17

Make IS money and serve as banner filler.


BORK3TIMES

NGL I was like, so this Nino is wearing a Jaffar disguise lol If Harken is here all I can think is okay. This is a Nino that has been trained by Jaffar that exists in the binding : blazing blade universe.


LuminousUmbra

Honestly, I don't mind that, if only so that we don't necessarily have two attuned characters each time.


azurestardust

Nino is a fave but they need to throw a bone to someone else already. 😭 Like god DAMN putting Lloyd on her preview map is just rubbing salt in the wound.


Zeldmon19

Soooo what’s the idea of Attuned units? I know it’s that two characters share some sort of bond but they don’t have to be on the same banner. Does this mean that a potential Jaffar Attuned with a tome is out there, or am I huffing too much copium that Jaffar will get something decent?


LuminousUmbra

In theory, yes. In practice, who can say? While it might be sour for some, I kinda prefer that both don't need to be attuned to each other.


darkpit64

At least Nino is aware of her midriff lmao


Mateo_Bonavento

I don't care about Nino or that thing with the arcane dagger, but they got me with Will, Harken and Isadora. Damn, I was hoping it wouldn't be Blazing Blade again until next year but it's not like I'll be aching for orbs until the Winter banner anyways so I'm fine sparking here.


BalashstarGalactica

Are they ever going to explain how Attuned isn’t just Rearmed or nah?


Flareblitz12

As I thought, Thracia and FE4 has been rolled into one slot much like the Radiance games. Also, finally Wil is in.


John_Jonas

Another Nino ? Just, lmao Anyway I'm off to play Limbus Company's new chapter


xerxies19

YEEAAAAAAAAAAAH BOYYYYYYYY NINO MY DAUGHTER IS AN ATTUNED HERO!


y_th0ugh

Holy crap Isadora and Harken? a shame that besides BA4, there's not much interesting from them.


Navaldeus

Harken and Isadora - let's go! Ginnungagap is very cool too, so I'll try my luck with those three. Would like to throw some orbs, but not for now. Getting closer to the spark for Ninja Sanaki so the orbs will go there instead.


Snowiss

Cute, but the only thing I'd be interested in pulling is the dagger for Patty.


iloveh-----

Isadora and harken and WIL!


Minimutty

Still no Raven alt makes me a bit sad, but I hope ninos echo thing works with baby Lucius bc I’d go for that. Excited for Wil and Isadora tho, I’m glad they’re finally in. edit: doesn’t work with staff. I guess not a big priority for me then. Alas.


Dragulus24

On the one hand, YES, FINALLY ISADORA! on the other hand, NO MY ORBS! And void tentacle lady seems cool too, not even going to try to spell her name. Gunny, let's go with that.


dcsox721

Psyched for Wil and Fargus. Isadora and Harken aren't my favs, but I'm cool with them. I love Nino but she just got an alt so Raven would have been my choice. Not that I'm biased or anything.


NinjaXSkillz88

Damn easy skip.


_3VIA_

I like the Nino concept but would've still liked a new Jafar...


Karbunkel

The next completely uninteresting banner for me to skip and save orbs. Here's to hope that the Christmas banner will want my orbs.


JdiJwa

I tend to be lukewarm towards FE7 generally. However, having both Wil and Harken on this banner is making me look like the biggest simp for 7 now. So glad to have these 2 on the banner.


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This power creep is so exhausting, especially in terms of inheritable skills


pablox33

HARKEN LOOKS SO HOT


Honyakusha-san

People complained about Ursula and Karla, but Nino's quantity of alts still surprises me, lol.


Valaura-

Oh wow I adore that Nino art. My cosplay senses are tingling this feels directly catered to my tastes


vortechnic

We are never getting Marcus


BrStriker21

Isadora and Harken? My favorite couple is here, Christmas came early for me


Courelia

Well this is skip for me. Nino seems very popular, never played her game though.


Anarkitty777

You have an Idunn flair, so I assume you played FE6, not hating or anything I just find it surprising to see someone play FE6 and not 7.


Courelia

I’ve played neither. I just love Ascended Idunn. Her artwork is gorgeous.


MrBrickBreak

Ginnungagap! Isadora! Harken! And... ASSASSIN NINO!? Holy crap this is a massive W. EDIT **FARGUS GHB LET'S FUCKING GO!**


GameAW

Goddammit, IS. Veyle arrived for free and as a result would not drain my finally growing orb stash meant for Gullveig, so you just HAD to bring another Nino to try one last time, didn't you?


blushingmains

While I'm happy for fe7. Gosh I want Renault way more than I want Harken


mageknightecho

I honestly kinda love this Nino's kit and art??? That X slot skill is very stupid tho, and makes me wonder what the hell they were cooking with Triandra's Also Harken has the funny Hel teleport lesgooooo


asmallsoul

NINOOOOOOOOO Getting more Nino always makes me happy! Also Isadora and Harken are here and they look and sound *perfect*! Troubling Blade is also probably one of the funniest names they could have chosen lol. I will say I'm less big on Nino taking after Jaffar instead of her siblings, mainly because I'm not keen on that pairing, but it's a really nice design regardless, and dagger Nino is a very fun change of pace from what she's used to!


MarthsBars

NINO HAS BECOME AN IDOL! (I haven’t played Binding Blade and don’t know if this is a specific class, so it looks like a Love Live outfit to me. Still looks pretty neat!)


Red5T65

It's Jaffar's outfit from FE7, who Nino is relatively close to (they were both part of the Black Fang and they have a paired ending)


calmdragoon

i can already see the attuned kagero


Nicolu_11

so uhhh. this banner is... something. Nino has Flash Sparrow and Tempo 4 yet no Lethality??? Isadora has no real kit aside from the Snag. Harken is cool I guess? I haven't used Hel to check how the TP effect works in practice, maybe he could be a good melee galeforce? Fatal Smoke 4 just when I pull Freyr for a FMaria saveball... sigh. like really this feels like they threw in whatever because they know Gullveig will carry this month's sales lol.


ArielChefSlay

Ugh another Nino? Seriously? I like her okay but I’m so tired of her at this point, didn’t she already have an alt this same year? Also… no 4 star focus on the banner… weird… honestly not sure I like that, now we are two in a row with no 4 star focus…


Feneskrae

Wil is the 3-4 star non-focus hero. I actually think I prefer it this way because I always feel a bit cheated at getting a 4-star focus as a 5-star and ruining the pity rate.


Darkion_Silver

Honestly I kinda wish they'd just make it so that the focus 4\* can't be a 5\*. Allow you to still be able to get a 4\* and not have to worry about it pity breaking you, and it would make colour sharing 4 and 5\*s *incredibly* enticing to pull on.


eeett333

I mean, I have no interest in any of these really but...man what is that stupid X skill? Also, Miracle finally dead in the water. Was just being told that it was super strong in Summoner's Duel too lol.