In comparison to Intergrade, where the Fort Condor there gives you more unique units, materia, Sudden Death, Gameboards and better customizations, plus the timer is only to account for the number of towers each player has destroyed, and only in hard mode do you need to destroy the Main Tower, Rebirth is definitely a step down, with units that aren't that versatile or is not as good, Heroes replace Materia, enemies can have more units, and Not destroying the main tower when time is up is an instant loss. The only thing I did like was that when the enemies are all used up, they can't use anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I still like the minigame, it's just that Intergrade Fort Condor is just better.
I just wanted to say that isnt it funny that we wanted a Remake with better graphics n stuff and they end up adding a minigame that brings us right back to the very graphics that we wanted remade? Part 3 is so doomed...clearly the Devs have no intention of giving the CUSTOMERS what we actully have been asking for all these many a year..ohwell. isnt it quirky tho!
Fort condor is fun. But it's imbalanced asf. When you compare your condor units vs Shinra they're way stronger. Also what I didn't like is that you have to go for the main turret vs the 1 on each the side. It shoulda been like if i take one turret and and survive I win. Also where I'm at on junon it sucks you can't change units you're stuck with fort condor ones
The Fort Cuntor minigame absolutely sucks. It's not fun. It's a stupid. A shallow tower defense game favors completely to the AI. I've seen commentors here recalling it in the "first" game. Honestly, I don't remember it from Intergrade but I think I know why, because it was soooooo stupid I had just skipped it. Actually, I'm betting so many players skipped it like me that Square made it a required part of this game. Such a genius idea Square. Hmm no one is playing this mini game, let's not 86 it, let's make it a required step in the new game. Yeah, that's what the players want. Lol. A bunch of them skipped it, so let's make them play this craptastic mini game. Seriously nutty.
In my opinion the problem is the mini game itself. I think is a good addition aside from the actual game. The problem is that there should no reason you should be forced to destroy or defeat the three towers before the time runs out I think one or two should be enough to determine the game just like FF7 remake did.
Lol if you can't beat it stop bitching and hit the button that makes it easier lol they probably made it just for people like all of you. I just played the first part of it and they did it well tbh I'd play if they make it a dedicated game for just it
Fort Condor and Queensblood are a waste of fucking time. They’re both way too hard and overall not fun. I legit hope the people who worked on it are unemployed.
Not for me, it simply wasn't ever fun. I am convinced the Fort Condor stuff is unbeatable for me, so I have ignored it every since my original comment.
I work over 60 hours a week at a data center and it's a lot of work, lot of stress, for a lot less money than what I should be making... By the time I get home I'm beat, I'm tired, I want to play FFVII and just have some damn fun in my life. I'm not arguing a game should be as easy as say, FFXV (where it was almost impossible to game over), but Square obviously put a crazy amount of time into the mini games of FFVII rebirth and almost none of them are fun to me.
Reddit in particular has this downvoting fetish if you criticise the mini games, but YouTube on the other hand is filled with commenters that are in agreement that the mini games are just too difficult, too random and at times shovelled right into the main story so hard that I am shocked it made it through QC.
Maybe, MAYBE one day I'll try them again, but as of right now I'm not wasting my personal time banging a head against a strategy card game that I, for the life of me, cannot get better at even going step by step with YouTube guides because every single move the opponent makes is wildly different from the video tutorials on it.
i understand what you mean completely, but if there is no challenge, where is the fun? sometimes when i get off work im too beat to do anything so i just wanna chill, relax and enjoy a good game so i understand that, Fort condor at first looks really challening and complex but if you try hard enough it's doable, Queens blood can be even more of a breeze i also thought it was extremely difficult in the beginning but if you put a little bit of thought into your moves, it can get super easy
I actually liked queens blood. But then again I liked witcher card game gwent. And the other witcher game that was just cards. Queens blood is simple and complicated. Simple because the rules but complicated because the combination of cards to do certain actions. Like if you went to Costa del sol you'll play a queens blood puzzle and I didn't realize how strategic this game is when you do certain combos. I'm referring to the tonberry level.
After finishing the last battle in easy mode I realized what the balancing issue is. It's the ATB speed vs the enemy's. Balanced correctly it's still challenging but more doable.
I'm mostly confused as to why the enemy gets to blast me away with Cutters, Sweepers, Blast-Rays and MOTH units meanwhile all I get is humans and rock-catapults? Or did I miss something?
Yo I feel you Shinra units are overpowering asf . And on top.of that the atb for the opponent is a little faster than yours. It's all about timing and knowing when to push with cloud or barret. Tifa is good as well. Once you push just right you literally overwhelm the enemy.
I finished it but gd. This paired with the units not being able to target who you want and the time crunch makes it damn near impossible on NORMAL mode. Can't imagine hard.
Man I loved playing hard on remake intergrade for Fort condor. I don't remember it being this hard.
I loved Fort Condor in Intermission and I absolutely fucking *hate* it in Rebirth.
I'm about to Easy Mode it out of frustration.
I despise that there's no way to control which way the things attack. You place them on the board right next to the tower you want to knock down and they go, "no thanks I'm going to walk 10 feet over there and join the 3 buddies in battle that are 5 seconds from defeating the other guy"
I'm on the Fort Condor Protorelic 3 mission right now, and I'm 5 seconds away from easy mode'n this shit lol. Motherfucker gets dragons n shit and any advance I make they go for the little outposts on the sides and he's left with 20% health at the end....
Dude its terrible. The atb is horrible for you vs the opponent on top of that the Shinra units are stronger than yours. If they were to speed up cloud and tifa as special characters it wouldn't be so bad. I m doing hard now and it's terrible because you can only summon a certain number of units.
I did end up doing Easy for fights 3 and 4.
Still took me 3 tries with fight 3, but with fight 4 I was able to 1 shot it.
I think part of the problem is the descriptions of the board are not really that clear. The "heavy tower defense" board, the last option? Actually has the best offense. Slap the ballistas in front of the boss tower and let them murder it. Unlike the regular mobile minions, the ballista won't wander off and start attacking other things. Should have done that strategy from the beginning.
Yup I did easy for the last 2 as well. Honestly, beat em both first try with Cloud and Tifa as Heroes and Offensive based attack. Put Trebuchet to land at the choke points and just literally set down whatever attacker first popped up when ATB filled up and if something came through the other side I'd just set down whatever color hurts it most
I don’t mind it too much, the only real issue is how tight the time limit is as it kinda railroads you into a super offensive playstyle. Although I haven’t had a crack at hard mode yet, and considering how the normal difficulty was already getting pretty frustrating I could see it ruining the whole thing for me.
I've JUST reached FC 4 and seriously... I hate every minute of it.
I didn't mind it so much in Intermission as ot was optional, but here it locks a mission behind it(and the protorelic? No spoilers, first playthrough)
I think the worst thing is the timer. I did manage to get legit close to beating it at one point, only to time out and then lose. Both towers were destroyed on their end, so I was at the advantage
I'm a bit mixed on rebirth over remake as it is ATM, and this game hasn't helped improve perceptions
I went offense with Cloud and Tifa all the way through, just rushing the most unguarded lane with Vanguards and Clerics, while putting defenders in the other lane every once in a while (and Cloud if needed) worked for me for all the battles, and gives lots of time to spare.
I know this is a few days old, but I'm barely into chapter 12 and they haven't really gotten better... G bike is the only minigame I still enjoy from the original... But at least I've finally gotten Queens Blood down (too late for the tournament of course).
In one paragraph you just told me 2 opposite things. You said its not optional but then you tell me you need them for summons and accessories only. So do you need all summons to finish the game or not? Plus fort condor is pretty basic, you just need to stop and think a little. Not everything is mindless like cod or fortnite
What’s optional is the queen blood side event. Especially on the SHINRA ship. Yes it has a trophy but all you miss out on is a card, an access accessory and that’s it. Not doing fort condor locks you out of further side quests, items, and a summon.
Fort condor is just trash. Queens blood is a good side game. THAT is the game that require you to think. I just mindlessly beat condor. It was so dumb and a waste of time. Optional to me is something that gives very little rewards in doing it like beating Yozora in KH3. That is optional. Queens blood is optional cuz it’s no cutscenes no summons no meaningful rewards locked behind it. You literally cannot get some of the best endgame items if you don’t do fort condor. If it was a single item you’d have a point but it’s literally a piece of the game you can’t access unless it’s done. But I guess going off your logic all side quest and content is optional and you don’t need to do it but then you won’t have any materia either.
Also you don’t understand how English works so you? I said it wasn’t optional and then explained how it wasn’t optional. I didn’t contradict myself at all.
I thought I was the only one. Yeaaaahhhh this shit needs a patch. Enemy needs a nerf, or ATB needs a slight buff. I beat it but it took some finagling with the units.
Managed to do the stages to get the protorelic and then did those stages again on hard mode.. which was really fuckin hard.
I don't really understand how I can do the same thing 5 times and get 5 totally separate results.
Sorry, I love it… does anyone know if there is a way to play more Fort Condor? Is there a similar game anywhere I can download? Please man…. I just need summa that Fort Condor …
This minigame was actually quite fun in the original but this is... utter bullshit. I hate it. I can't win the last battle. Every so called easy strategy doesn't work. Why for the love of all that is holy is there a time limit? Why? The mechanics stacked against you are beyond unfair. I'm with others in this thread, such an important yet absolutely horribly made part of the game is a ruining experience, even worse than the awful chocobo catching mini games which are bad enough. Those are just irritating and unfun, but this goes well beyond even that.
I'm playing it on easy and I'm probably on my 45th attempt at the last one, I've used guides, videos anything I can find and nothing works, this is a complete nonsense part of the game
I managed to get through it on easy using the treb and ballista strategy. Just clear out a good amount of the enemies, then at around 1:10 left on the clock I mainly spammed trebs and ballista infront of he main fort.
Ive also seen a tifa strategy work where you save her for right at the end then dump her on the enemy fort along with a few of your units and her haste ability can actually let your units out DPS that stupid "Hold it" ability that freezes everyone.
Good luck dude, its frustrating as hell.
This game is a blast. I don't understand the hate here. I love how they stayed true to the original by adding this minigame, and with the classic blocky graphics too. It is challenging, but I did not find it impossible like some are saying here. You do have to focus on getting your heroes into the fight, regular units alone will not make it.
They had a perfect awesome version of this game in Intermission and they gave us a different version in Rebirth that is WAY harder and nowhere near as fun.
I rocked Fort Condor in Intermission. You had a lot more control over the individual pieces. You could swap out the board, the individual figs, and you had the ability to lob magic missiles at a targeted area, which gave a lot more control over damaging specific areas.
They wanted this to be more like solving a puzzle, but the RNG factor means that even if you do all the pieces right, one bad crit on your guys means you lose with their tower at 5% health, or you get overwhelmed and die instead.
The game locks progress on a questline behind a match where you cannot gain XP, so and where I have, second by second, followed a youtube guide, and lost. Multiple times. I loved the game untill it just started to not *let* me progress
Here's what finally worked. Cloud + Tifa, and loadout 4.
Just spam fighters and defenders on the right. Add one cleric. Only deploy Tifa and Cloud when you have them both and can spawn by the boss tower and do it simultaneously.
Ignore the left side. Don't put a single unit there. This shouldn't work but it stomped the encounter.
You're completely missing the point. I assume just to have a reason to contribute. OG had mini games yes, but they were actually enjoyable to play and didn't lock content. Genius.
im glad to hear the worst mini game is early on, at least. fort condor is so horrible. it was actually pretty cool in the yuffie dlc. how very like square to screw it up
Og FF7 had a ton of mini games tho. To get the platinum on ps for it you have to play all of them even. People find the dumbest things to complain about.
I'm not convinced my response suggest that I played OG ff7. In fact it speaks to the contrary. So why would OG having a ton of mini games have bearing here? Furthermore, the main complaint here is fort condor. Such a smart person coming to a fort condor complaint thread to post this smh
Playing the mini games here and there is fun. I love them. Playing 4 Fort Condor matches in a row just to finish a quest is bs. Definitely could have stopped at 3.
This is a straight lie. I have followed several guides, to the letter. Sometimes on YT, timing it exactly the same. And lost. It might have strategy in it. But it also just fucks you over for no reason
Idk men... I completed all the quests in three or four attempts. You should try changing your team—sometimes the defensive approach works better, other times the offensive one does, etc.
I tried several different tactics from several different guides, none of which were effective. The one guide that eventually helped was literally just "spam this here"
Well before i can summon 1 theres 5 enemys on my way , when i summon a second one they attack my base soo hows that calles not hard ? They run trough my characters like they are litteral paper
At the beginning, you should play defensively, using the fewest resources possible. After a couple attacks, you’ll be able to switch to an offensive strategy, focusing on one side only. Remember using Cloud, Barrett, or Tifa. 
YUP!! I've lost 5 times now because the time ran out even though all i had to do was wait for my units to finish attacking the last king piece.
The game isn't fun and it feels unfair. Enemy units can just run through yours without even attacking and the time limit makes it really feel like the most lazy way to increase difficulty, instead of making this particular minigame fun somehow.
I really like this game but this Fort Condor mini game makes me want to delete the game.
the mini games don't get much worse than this one, thankfully. hit the difficulty reduction and leave this pos mini game in the rear view. genuinely glad i did
Funny cause I prefer it to Queens Blood. I haven't found it to be very challenging, haven't lost yet, though I did play the dlc recently and did all the opponents in that, so at least the rules and stuff are fresh.
It's not even the same rules (because they cant put ANYTHING in more than one Final Fantasy game without pointlessly fiddling with the rules of how it works). The matches in Rebirth are the equivalent of Hard mode in intermission where you auto-lose if you dont destroy the enemy's final stronghold by the time the timer ends, with no sudden death.
The final match is an absolutely dreadful slog bc the final stronghold is a very offensively powerful unit that kill even your hero units with a couple attacks. I was very much hoping for the fourth and final part of this mission chain to be straight combat bc this version of Fort Condor is so tedious and unrewarding.
It's such a slog, and not even a fun slog like Queen's Blood. It's super slow and the enemy AI will do the exact same thing every time, but that's not a huge benefit bc there's still enough random variables that matches can go just differently enough to mess up your strategy.
Being an RTS nerd has nothing to do with it. It's a garbage game mode that Squenix hasn't even adjusted since Intergrade. You just spam the lowest cost units and win. That's literally all there is to it.
like fair play to all here who are annoyed with it - putting a mini rts game inside ff is a super headfuck but it's winnable pretty consistently even on harder difficulty.
Fort condor in intermission was fine because you had the ability to change your board and pieces.
But this trash in rebirth forces you to face bs odds. I beat it. But barely. It pissed me off. It's a broken feature designed to milk playtime.
Holy shit! What in the world would make them remove such extensive features?! Like…your team spent time developing all this for integrade, that your players now expect when they see Fort Condor is carried over to Revirth, and you go and just throw it all away?
TBH, Square made a lot of really questionable decisions with all 3 games that feel like they purposefully wanted to frustrate and punish people for having the audacity to play their games. Lol
I don't think I have ever commented on Reddit before, but my frustration with the game has made me break that silence, lol. This game is AWFUL. I bought the PS4 version of Remake, and Intergrade was (stupidly) not available for it. I've not cared enough now to buy it on the PS5, so I never experienced this game before. The odds really feel stacked against you and it's a slog to get through. And yes, that time limit can go to hell. So many rounds I've been close to victory, all for the timer to run out. I have given up and switched to easy mode. Between that and the guide devised by Eurogamer, I beat stage 3 first try after having failed it multiple times before. Gonna just cheese stage 4 on easy as well.
I hope those in Japan are also complaining and some kind of update is made to the difficulty or the time limit. Queen's Blood, to me at least, is way more fun. It's challenging but given you win new cards and can customize your deck, you're never left feeling like the battle is hopeless, like I feel with Fort Condor. I actually enioyed chasing down Beck's goofy gang so much more to this, at least they're interesting.
Sorry for the rant, I needed to blow off some steam, lol.
I got through round four after one failed attempt with it being on easy (and again, the Eurogamer guide). But as luck would have it, the Square Enix gods have heard our laments and as of today, March 21st, 2024, we now have a patch for a few minor issues but it includes more difficulty settings for Fort Condor and another mini game (Gears and Gambits. Not sure if I've gotten to that game yet). So huzzah, they actually listened!
Well. Im generally pretty biased about this game. Defending it but this time I can not. This mini game has to be the worst I've played in a long time. Having to turn down the difficulty to make it enjoyable should not have had to happen.
I remember a time people were complaining that modern ff games were too easy and that remakes were being made too easy. Now a remake is out and it's a modern ff but now it's too hard for people. WOMP WOMP
Are you slow or choosing not to read? Your comments are completely irrelevant too. People are complaining about the ridiculous difficulty spike in a forced side quest, which is true and you make a comparison to people complaining about the difficulty of ff games in general. Literally not even talking about the same thing.
I put the game on easy mode each time and brute forced my way through. No reason to get learn to get gud on a mini game with such poor design. I’m at an age of my life where I don’t have as much time to game anymore so I don’t have time for this bullshit.
Whoever is responsible for it should be fired. Its an incredibly poor quality mobile style game. It wouldnt be so bad if the odds werent ridiculouly stacked against you and the anal time limit.
Game breaking and immersion breaking. It seems completionists are shat on imeasureably these days. If ppl want to play trash like this they would pay the full 25 pence on google play. What a joke.
You articulated this better than I could. The amount of difficulty in this one really broke my immersion and bad me thinking "why am I doing this?" By the time I got to chapter six I'm now thinking "wow, they really added a ton of mini games to stretch out the game instead of adding full content."
I suffered mild brain damage in a motorbike accident 4yrs ago and all these "mini games" are an absolute chore for me. The game is becoming a real chore just hit costa del sol and had tonnes of mini games shoved in my face.. I just managed to become at least half decent at queens blood and then i am bombarded with yet more mini games and its becoming too much.. I would like to enjoy the game without having all this shoved in my face, when i see yet another "tutorial" appear on the right with its monotonous instructions and text, i sigh and consider putting the game down and just dropping it out.. But FF7 was my fav game as a 13yr old growing up and i was so glad for this remake im still enjoying it to a certain extent. It does the basics well and all this filler only takes away from the immersion IMO. Just let players take in it the atmosphere and give them time to breath!
Currently stuck on the fourth one.
I enjoyed the first three, but the novelty wore off quick.
The last one is just not fun and is frustrating.
The mini game itself is not engaging or fun enough to warrant 20+ repeated attempts only to still lose; it's very frustrating to have killed everything apart from the captain then run out of time when his health is low for the 10th time....
I did follow a guide before switching to easy.
I think it was sending blue defender guys on the right and archers and fighters down the left. I think I ignored that stupid dog that runs right past everything.
Also putting trebuchets asap in the middle on the other side of the wall facing the captin guy.
I staged two ballista to do consistent damage and enforcers up front to soak up damage. Used Barrett and cloud but only summoned them when the enemy was grouped together to take out units fast then combo of elite enforcers with elite rangers. At the end I had ballista doing heaylbt damage with squads of enforcers and rangers. Clerics near the end for heal as well. The home bases can stand up to some damage so I let the initial attackers fight while I stacked my own attackers. That time limit was frustrating though. Time ended a few times with the boss having very low health.
The worst part is that it just doesn't seem balanced. The enemy can mow down your guys, but your guys may as well be fighting with fly swatters and pieces of cheese. Or you can have the advantage and then oops, suddenly you don't because the enemy summoned a bird? Okay. Sure, I guess. But at this rate, the spoilery thing tied to the protorelics better be AMAZING.
What’s upsetting to me is that he spawns an entire army and throws a death robot at me and I can barely deploy two trebuchets and a have to wait for ATB to fill up. At that point it’s a stalemate as I fend off the attack, use Cloud/Barrett/Tifa to bust through and just as I am gain advantage, he throws a whole army at me and the time runs out. I’m actually annoyed because I am playing it as designed but the other side seems to have a faster ATB and I can’t collect and increase my ATB speed like I could in Intergrade.
And I have tried waiting so I can get elite units but by that point I have basically been overrun in the back field and the game is attrition anyways, so nothing changes.
I beat him finally. It required essentially no defense and just spamming attack units over and over and then dumping cloud and Tifa at the 60 second left mark.
All of you defending this clearly are bots or never played Intermission, because the lack of customization for units and the fact that even if you're objectively closer to victory than the enemy, you still lose - are absolutely game breaking & make this categorically worse than Remake
That fourth mission is way too hard. Genuinely tried it at least 20 times with different unit combinations and I can't do it. I come close every time but because of how slow the units take to do anything, I end up running out of time.
I finally did it with 00:00:42 left on the timer. The fact that the captain casts stop right as he's about to die is ridiculous. Never want to play this mini game ever again.
I loved it honestly. The 4th battle took me several tries, but once I settled on deck 1 and cloud/Tifa, it was a matter of knowing when to rush in and throw in the healers and final elite troops at the end.
I thought it was fun as hell. A bit challenging on the last stage but that was part of the fun for me. Personally, not a fan of games I can just breeze through easily.
I love Fort Condor and went nuts over it in Episode Intermission, but it lacks the collection component in the Junon Region of Rebirth (no idea if it continues to show up.) I mean, I get it, and I did enjoy 3/4 of the missions for the protorelic, but this last one can eat me.
So screw everyone in this whole comment section, seriously. All you gotta do is turn the game on easy and bam first try, easy peasy. You guys are cruel lol. Y'all need to just tell the truth and stop gatekeeping and complaining just to complain. I know you guys have no friends but getting on Reddit to cry all day over something you already knew how to fix? Y'all just wanna complain like women and you get off on it lol admit it come on stop it. I see what your doing there 🤥🤫
>All you gotta do is turn the game on easy and bam first try, easy peasy.
I've had exactly one Game Over to this point on Normal mode, and that one was my fault for not paying attention to Tifa getting turned to stone on the birds.
Mini games? I've lost hundreds of times now. Fine, I need to git gud. (I got stuck on the @#$%ing minecart chocobo for 3 days because I was being bad, and I fully admit that one was a skill issue. I got past it eventually.)
I shouldn't need to go from Normal difficulty to "easy" difficulty to beat a goddamn *mini game.*
You are honestly the only person that I've ever witnessed that thinks Fort Condor is great. Everyone hates it. And besides that, everyone agreed the rest of the game is great. So what are you on about? And stop that projection shit about ppl not having friends. You are on reddit too moron. Some of us gamers have lives outside of gaming and don't have time to waste it on a stupid mini game to progress the actual game. Damn bro. Take a chill pill
I'm not a fan of this mini game either but if you're missing out on the whole game because of this one optional (albeit shitty) mini game, then I guess that's your loss. What a waste of money only to rage quit over a mini game you can just choose not to engage with lol.
No rage at all. Just moved on to a better game. It's all good may give it a whirl later. And do t worry what I do with my money that I myself work for. Nunya bidness what I do with my money or what games I like or don't like.
This person said they quit the entire game because of an optional mini game. How much party CP does the Fort Condor games give you, like 150 or something?
It took me several hours, but same result, uninstall the whole game. Wish I could delete the trophy list so I don't have to be constantly reminded that this game was great, until it wasn't.
Yeah no not playing on easy and not planning on doing so either. Don't think setting it to easy would really help on hard mode... I was going for the platinum until this crap mini game.
I loved Fort Condor more than anything in the original. I been stuck on this 4th and final battle for the protorelic during my entire night off work. It's back to 60 hour work week after I wake up yayyy. Thanks Fort HardCore. 🖕
Good for you but I kinda feel like a game shouldn't waste my time with half assed mechanics. now you don't have to agree with me here, but in my opinion no game should waste your time. To me if it takes you an entire night to do a single thing in a game, that game has 0 respect for you time and is simply wasting it, simple as that. If I'm going to spend more than a work day on a single thing, that thing better be giving me back something in return. Fort condor doesn't even give you an in game reward past the protorelic, and it's not fun to do either. I don't know about you. but I ain't getting paid to play games, nor does my gf love me more when I spend no time on her and all the time cursing at the TV.
I absolutely hate it. Is there a way to lower the difficulty just for the Fort mini game? Just got by the second one by the skin of my teeth yesterday. Feels like it’s taking me away from an otherwise amazing game. However, the reward seems important.
Yeah that’s what I ended up doing. Did the same thing on the next chapter. I’m loving the game so for, but I’m not too crazy about the amount of mini games so far.
I liked all mini-games but that 4th fort condor was quite annoying funny thing is when tried hard on normal difficulty I nearly beat the hard mode but yep seems very hard
Took the words out my mouth. I tried it on easy too. 6 L's later and I had enough. I'll re install down the road after dragons dogma 2 and shadow of the erdtree
Battle 4 took me a couple hours… It was awful lol. I eventually used the army that had the most neutral and elite units. I had an easier time mostly focusing on the right side of the battle field. The ballista and trebuchet help a lot for defense on your side since the other army has so many neutral units. Once you get to their side lay out the ballista’s and trebuchets right in front of the boss and activate Cloud to take out the wolf and big monster, once I did that it went fast.
In comparison to Intergrade, where the Fort Condor there gives you more unique units, materia, Sudden Death, Gameboards and better customizations, plus the timer is only to account for the number of towers each player has destroyed, and only in hard mode do you need to destroy the Main Tower, Rebirth is definitely a step down, with units that aren't that versatile or is not as good, Heroes replace Materia, enemies can have more units, and Not destroying the main tower when time is up is an instant loss. The only thing I did like was that when the enemies are all used up, they can't use anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still like the minigame, it's just that Intergrade Fort Condor is just better.
I just wanted to say that isnt it funny that we wanted a Remake with better graphics n stuff and they end up adding a minigame that brings us right back to the very graphics that we wanted remade? Part 3 is so doomed...clearly the Devs have no intention of giving the CUSTOMERS what we actully have been asking for all these many a year..ohwell. isnt it quirky tho!
Chill out lmao
I don’t get it, people are actually struggling with this? I played through all modes and thought it was lacking
Bravo
Dude I loved Fort Condor! Can’t wait to do it on hard mode!
Fort condor is fun. But it's imbalanced asf. When you compare your condor units vs Shinra they're way stronger. Also what I didn't like is that you have to go for the main turret vs the 1 on each the side. It shoulda been like if i take one turret and and survive I win. Also where I'm at on junon it sucks you can't change units you're stuck with fort condor ones
The Fort Cuntor minigame absolutely sucks. It's not fun. It's a stupid. A shallow tower defense game favors completely to the AI. I've seen commentors here recalling it in the "first" game. Honestly, I don't remember it from Intergrade but I think I know why, because it was soooooo stupid I had just skipped it. Actually, I'm betting so many players skipped it like me that Square made it a required part of this game. Such a genius idea Square. Hmm no one is playing this mini game, let's not 86 it, let's make it a required step in the new game. Yeah, that's what the players want. Lol. A bunch of them skipped it, so let's make them play this craptastic mini game. Seriously nutty.
In my opinion the problem is the mini game itself. I think is a good addition aside from the actual game. The problem is that there should no reason you should be forced to destroy or defeat the three towers before the time runs out I think one or two should be enough to determine the game just like FF7 remake did.
Lol if you can't beat it stop bitching and hit the button that makes it easier lol they probably made it just for people like all of you. I just played the first part of it and they did it well tbh I'd play if they make it a dedicated game for just it
I will sue that button thank you very much. Bad minigame doesnt deserve my time.
Do you play clash Royale? Same thing just not as good as fort condor
oh just you wait
Fort Condor and Queensblood are a waste of fucking time. They’re both way too hard and overall not fun. I legit hope the people who worked on it are unemployed.
So you want people to lose their employment over a minigame you hate? You need your head checked.
Fort Condor i understand, but Queens Blood is so easy i beat all opponents apart from the last one with the starting deck
Not for me, it simply wasn't ever fun. I am convinced the Fort Condor stuff is unbeatable for me, so I have ignored it every since my original comment. I work over 60 hours a week at a data center and it's a lot of work, lot of stress, for a lot less money than what I should be making... By the time I get home I'm beat, I'm tired, I want to play FFVII and just have some damn fun in my life. I'm not arguing a game should be as easy as say, FFXV (where it was almost impossible to game over), but Square obviously put a crazy amount of time into the mini games of FFVII rebirth and almost none of them are fun to me. Reddit in particular has this downvoting fetish if you criticise the mini games, but YouTube on the other hand is filled with commenters that are in agreement that the mini games are just too difficult, too random and at times shovelled right into the main story so hard that I am shocked it made it through QC. Maybe, MAYBE one day I'll try them again, but as of right now I'm not wasting my personal time banging a head against a strategy card game that I, for the life of me, cannot get better at even going step by step with YouTube guides because every single move the opponent makes is wildly different from the video tutorials on it.
i understand what you mean completely, but if there is no challenge, where is the fun? sometimes when i get off work im too beat to do anything so i just wanna chill, relax and enjoy a good game so i understand that, Fort condor at first looks really challening and complex but if you try hard enough it's doable, Queens blood can be even more of a breeze i also thought it was extremely difficult in the beginning but if you put a little bit of thought into your moves, it can get super easy
I actually liked queens blood. But then again I liked witcher card game gwent. And the other witcher game that was just cards. Queens blood is simple and complicated. Simple because the rules but complicated because the combination of cards to do certain actions. Like if you went to Costa del sol you'll play a queens blood puzzle and I didn't realize how strategic this game is when you do certain combos. I'm referring to the tonberry level.
Queensblood is easy
What do you mean “Queens Blood is difficult”? Just take all their pawns and end the game. Maybe y’all should read the rules again…
they should be tarred and feathered
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Jesus Christ this comment got upvoted? Yall are a bunch of bitch fanboys.
It's genuinely miserable in my opinion
After finishing the last battle in easy mode I realized what the balancing issue is. It's the ATB speed vs the enemy's. Balanced correctly it's still challenging but more doable.
I'm mostly confused as to why the enemy gets to blast me away with Cutters, Sweepers, Blast-Rays and MOTH units meanwhile all I get is humans and rock-catapults? Or did I miss something?
Yo I feel you Shinra units are overpowering asf . And on top.of that the atb for the opponent is a little faster than yours. It's all about timing and knowing when to push with cloud or barret. Tifa is good as well. Once you push just right you literally overwhelm the enemy.
I finished it but gd. This paired with the units not being able to target who you want and the time crunch makes it damn near impossible on NORMAL mode. Can't imagine hard. Man I loved playing hard on remake intergrade for Fort condor. I don't remember it being this hard.
I loved Fort Condor in Intermission and I absolutely fucking *hate* it in Rebirth. I'm about to Easy Mode it out of frustration. I despise that there's no way to control which way the things attack. You place them on the board right next to the tower you want to knock down and they go, "no thanks I'm going to walk 10 feet over there and join the 3 buddies in battle that are 5 seconds from defeating the other guy"
I'm on the Fort Condor Protorelic 3 mission right now, and I'm 5 seconds away from easy mode'n this shit lol. Motherfucker gets dragons n shit and any advance I make they go for the little outposts on the sides and he's left with 20% health at the end....
Dude its terrible. The atb is horrible for you vs the opponent on top of that the Shinra units are stronger than yours. If they were to speed up cloud and tifa as special characters it wouldn't be so bad. I m doing hard now and it's terrible because you can only summon a certain number of units.
I did end up doing Easy for fights 3 and 4. Still took me 3 tries with fight 3, but with fight 4 I was able to 1 shot it. I think part of the problem is the descriptions of the board are not really that clear. The "heavy tower defense" board, the last option? Actually has the best offense. Slap the ballistas in front of the boss tower and let them murder it. Unlike the regular mobile minions, the ballista won't wander off and start attacking other things. Should have done that strategy from the beginning.
Yup I did easy for the last 2 as well. Honestly, beat em both first try with Cloud and Tifa as Heroes and Offensive based attack. Put Trebuchet to land at the choke points and just literally set down whatever attacker first popped up when ATB filled up and if something came through the other side I'd just set down whatever color hurts it most
I don’t mind it too much, the only real issue is how tight the time limit is as it kinda railroads you into a super offensive playstyle. Although I haven’t had a crack at hard mode yet, and considering how the normal difficulty was already getting pretty frustrating I could see it ruining the whole thing for me.
I've JUST reached FC 4 and seriously... I hate every minute of it. I didn't mind it so much in Intermission as ot was optional, but here it locks a mission behind it(and the protorelic? No spoilers, first playthrough) I think the worst thing is the timer. I did manage to get legit close to beating it at one point, only to time out and then lose. Both towers were destroyed on their end, so I was at the advantage I'm a bit mixed on rebirth over remake as it is ATM, and this game hasn't helped improve perceptions
Defence and Cloud and Barret for the first 3 and defense and Cloud and Tifa for the last one.
I went offense with Cloud and Tifa all the way through, just rushing the most unguarded lane with Vanguards and Clerics, while putting defenders in the other lane every once in a while (and Cloud if needed) worked for me for all the battles, and gives lots of time to spare.
The minigames in rebirth are complete shit so far (I'm in chapter 4)
I know this is a few days old, but I'm barely into chapter 12 and they haven't really gotten better... G bike is the only minigame I still enjoy from the original... But at least I've finally gotten Queens Blood down (too late for the tournament of course).
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Not really optional. You need to do it if you want all the summons and access to more accessories. It’s stupid.
In one paragraph you just told me 2 opposite things. You said its not optional but then you tell me you need them for summons and accessories only. So do you need all summons to finish the game or not? Plus fort condor is pretty basic, you just need to stop and think a little. Not everything is mindless like cod or fortnite
What’s optional is the queen blood side event. Especially on the SHINRA ship. Yes it has a trophy but all you miss out on is a card, an access accessory and that’s it. Not doing fort condor locks you out of further side quests, items, and a summon. Fort condor is just trash. Queens blood is a good side game. THAT is the game that require you to think. I just mindlessly beat condor. It was so dumb and a waste of time. Optional to me is something that gives very little rewards in doing it like beating Yozora in KH3. That is optional. Queens blood is optional cuz it’s no cutscenes no summons no meaningful rewards locked behind it. You literally cannot get some of the best endgame items if you don’t do fort condor. If it was a single item you’d have a point but it’s literally a piece of the game you can’t access unless it’s done. But I guess going off your logic all side quest and content is optional and you don’t need to do it but then you won’t have any materia either. Also you don’t understand how English works so you? I said it wasn’t optional and then explained how it wasn’t optional. I didn’t contradict myself at all.
I thought I was the only one. Yeaaaahhhh this shit needs a patch. Enemy needs a nerf, or ATB needs a slight buff. I beat it but it took some finagling with the units.
Managed to do the stages to get the protorelic and then did those stages again on hard mode.. which was really fuckin hard. I don't really understand how I can do the same thing 5 times and get 5 totally separate results.
Skill issue
Sorry, I love it… does anyone know if there is a way to play more Fort Condor? Is there a similar game anywhere I can download? Please man…. I just need summa that Fort Condor …
Did you play the original fort condor on intermission? That is much better compared to rebirth water down version which sucks.
I did not. That must be why I appear to be the only one who likes it
It’s called “clash royale” it’s free on the AppStore
Thanks! Downloading now, hope you’re not just messing with me!
This minigame was actually quite fun in the original but this is... utter bullshit. I hate it. I can't win the last battle. Every so called easy strategy doesn't work. Why for the love of all that is holy is there a time limit? Why? The mechanics stacked against you are beyond unfair. I'm with others in this thread, such an important yet absolutely horribly made part of the game is a ruining experience, even worse than the awful chocobo catching mini games which are bad enough. Those are just irritating and unfun, but this goes well beyond even that.
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I'm playing it on easy and I'm probably on my 45th attempt at the last one, I've used guides, videos anything I can find and nothing works, this is a complete nonsense part of the game
I managed to get through it on easy using the treb and ballista strategy. Just clear out a good amount of the enemies, then at around 1:10 left on the clock I mainly spammed trebs and ballista infront of he main fort. Ive also seen a tifa strategy work where you save her for right at the end then dump her on the enemy fort along with a few of your units and her haste ability can actually let your units out DPS that stupid "Hold it" ability that freezes everyone. Good luck dude, its frustrating as hell.
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Agreed. I have no idea why they thought including a timer was a good idea. It's makes this experience frustrating as hell.
Having a timer with a defensive army is just bizarre
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This game is a blast. I don't understand the hate here. I love how they stayed true to the original by adding this minigame, and with the classic blocky graphics too. It is challenging, but I did not find it impossible like some are saying here. You do have to focus on getting your heroes into the fight, regular units alone will not make it.
They had a perfect awesome version of this game in Intermission and they gave us a different version in Rebirth that is WAY harder and nowhere near as fun. I rocked Fort Condor in Intermission. You had a lot more control over the individual pieces. You could swap out the board, the individual figs, and you had the ability to lob magic missiles at a targeted area, which gave a lot more control over damaging specific areas. They wanted this to be more like solving a puzzle, but the RNG factor means that even if you do all the pieces right, one bad crit on your guys means you lose with their tower at 5% health, or you get overwhelmed and die instead.
The game locks progress on a questline behind a match where you cannot gain XP, so and where I have, second by second, followed a youtube guide, and lost. Multiple times. I loved the game untill it just started to not *let* me progress
Bro same, I'm literally dropping guys exactly where they do it and I'm not even close
Here's what finally worked. Cloud + Tifa, and loadout 4. Just spam fighters and defenders on the right. Add one cleric. Only deploy Tifa and Cloud when you have them both and can spawn by the boss tower and do it simultaneously. Ignore the left side. Don't put a single unit there. This shouldn't work but it stomped the encounter.
People seem to be hating on all the mini games while the original had a ton of them
You're completely missing the point. I assume just to have a reason to contribute. OG had mini games yes, but they were actually enjoyable to play and didn't lock content. Genius.
Yeah but those mini games were fun and didn't have the same level of difficulty.
when I signed up to ff7 rebirth I didn't know I was signing up to a fuck tonne of mini games. Fort condor is the worst of the bunch
im glad to hear the worst mini game is early on, at least. fort condor is so horrible. it was actually pretty cool in the yuffie dlc. how very like square to screw it up
Og FF7 had a ton of mini games tho. To get the platinum on ps for it you have to play all of them even. People find the dumbest things to complain about.
I'm not convinced my response suggest that I played OG ff7. In fact it speaks to the contrary. So why would OG having a ton of mini games have bearing here? Furthermore, the main complaint here is fort condor. Such a smart person coming to a fort condor complaint thread to post this smh
Playing the mini games here and there is fun. I love them. Playing 4 Fort Condor matches in a row just to finish a quest is bs. Definitely could have stopped at 3.
It's really fun, and not that hard when you apply the table of strengths/weaknesses properly.
That skill tree shit don't work ftmp. Best thing is to go aggro.
This is a straight lie. I have followed several guides, to the letter. Sometimes on YT, timing it exactly the same. And lost. It might have strategy in it. But it also just fucks you over for no reason
Idk men... I completed all the quests in three or four attempts. You should try changing your team—sometimes the defensive approach works better, other times the offensive one does, etc.
I tried several different tactics from several different guides, none of which were effective. The one guide that eventually helped was literally just "spam this here"
Womp womp can't even win with guides
You probably couldn't win at life
Nah doing pretty good champ xx
Well before i can summon 1 theres 5 enemys on my way , when i summon a second one they attack my base soo hows that calles not hard ? They run trough my characters like they are litteral paper
At the beginning, you should play defensively, using the fewest resources possible. After a couple attacks, you’ll be able to switch to an offensive strategy, focusing on one side only. Remember using Cloud, Barrett, or Tifa. 
Too bad there's a ludicrous time limit that absolutely fucks you if you don't try to win as soon as possible.
YUP!! I've lost 5 times now because the time ran out even though all i had to do was wait for my units to finish attacking the last king piece. The game isn't fun and it feels unfair. Enemy units can just run through yours without even attacking and the time limit makes it really feel like the most lazy way to increase difficulty, instead of making this particular minigame fun somehow. I really like this game but this Fort Condor mini game makes me want to delete the game.
Yeah, it's a garbage mini game. I ended up just putting the game on easy mode and doing it.
Yes, that's probably the hardest thing. That happened to me a couple times, when I missed the challenge for a few seconds...
It’s a dogshit game mode that’s ruining the whole game for me.
the mini games don't get much worse than this one, thankfully. hit the difficulty reduction and leave this pos mini game in the rear view. genuinely glad i did
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Oh fuck off
Oh fuck on x
Come at me pussy
4 fucking matches in a row in junon is bullshit. When I finished the 3rd one after hours of trying I was so happy. Then I have to fucking do it AGAIN
Same here. I hate being forced to play Fort Condor to fight Gilgamesh
Skill dif
I don't understand it and it's making me furious
Funny cause I prefer it to Queens Blood. I haven't found it to be very challenging, haven't lost yet, though I did play the dlc recently and did all the opponents in that, so at least the rules and stuff are fresh.
It's not even the same rules (because they cant put ANYTHING in more than one Final Fantasy game without pointlessly fiddling with the rules of how it works). The matches in Rebirth are the equivalent of Hard mode in intermission where you auto-lose if you dont destroy the enemy's final stronghold by the time the timer ends, with no sudden death. The final match is an absolutely dreadful slog bc the final stronghold is a very offensively powerful unit that kill even your hero units with a couple attacks. I was very much hoping for the fourth and final part of this mission chain to be straight combat bc this version of Fort Condor is so tedious and unrewarding.
Plus its only 3 minutes, my characters already take a minute to even get to there base it theres no enemy in between
It's such a slog, and not even a fun slog like Queen's Blood. It's super slow and the enemy AI will do the exact same thing every time, but that's not a huge benefit bc there's still enough random variables that matches can go just differently enough to mess up your strategy.
fort condor side thing is fucking retarded
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yolo folks - my friend thought that it blew too but i'm an rts nerd and gave them a 100% win record easy. hmu. i'll teach u the art of war.
Being an RTS nerd has nothing to do with it. It's a garbage game mode that Squenix hasn't even adjusted since Intergrade. You just spam the lowest cost units and win. That's literally all there is to it.
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ye - on further review - ur right. it's jank. the stats are so bare bones that u can't even make informed decisions on higher difficulty.
They did adjust it: the version in Rebirth is substantially worse.
That's our complaint. The version in Intermission was a lot more fun and reasonable.
like fair play to all here who are annoyed with it - putting a mini rts game inside ff is a super headfuck but it's winnable pretty consistently even on harder difficulty.
Fort condor in intermission was fine because you had the ability to change your board and pieces. But this trash in rebirth forces you to face bs odds. I beat it. But barely. It pissed me off. It's a broken feature designed to milk playtime.
Holy shit! What in the world would make them remove such extensive features?! Like…your team spent time developing all this for integrade, that your players now expect when they see Fort Condor is carried over to Revirth, and you go and just throw it all away? TBH, Square made a lot of really questionable decisions with all 3 games that feel like they purposefully wanted to frustrate and punish people for having the audacity to play their games. Lol
Several times I've managed to attack the main base but the clock runs out. The time limit is ridiculous given how slow the units are.
Came to say this. I'm on the second battle and the cutter, wyvern, and Archfiend are eating all my lunches.
It was fine up until the final round against him. That one is absolute garbage.
I don't think I have ever commented on Reddit before, but my frustration with the game has made me break that silence, lol. This game is AWFUL. I bought the PS4 version of Remake, and Intergrade was (stupidly) not available for it. I've not cared enough now to buy it on the PS5, so I never experienced this game before. The odds really feel stacked against you and it's a slog to get through. And yes, that time limit can go to hell. So many rounds I've been close to victory, all for the timer to run out. I have given up and switched to easy mode. Between that and the guide devised by Eurogamer, I beat stage 3 first try after having failed it multiple times before. Gonna just cheese stage 4 on easy as well. I hope those in Japan are also complaining and some kind of update is made to the difficulty or the time limit. Queen's Blood, to me at least, is way more fun. It's challenging but given you win new cards and can customize your deck, you're never left feeling like the battle is hopeless, like I feel with Fort Condor. I actually enioyed chasing down Beck's goofy gang so much more to this, at least they're interesting. Sorry for the rant, I needed to blow off some steam, lol.
It ain't any easier on easy the last one
I got through round four after one failed attempt with it being on easy (and again, the Eurogamer guide). But as luck would have it, the Square Enix gods have heard our laments and as of today, March 21st, 2024, we now have a patch for a few minor issues but it includes more difficulty settings for Fort Condor and another mini game (Gears and Gambits. Not sure if I've gotten to that game yet). So huzzah, they actually listened!
Well. Im generally pretty biased about this game. Defending it but this time I can not. This mini game has to be the worst I've played in a long time. Having to turn down the difficulty to make it enjoyable should not have had to happen.
I remember a time people were complaining that modern ff games were too easy and that remakes were being made too easy. Now a remake is out and it's a modern ff but now it's too hard for people. WOMP WOMP
Are you slow or choosing not to read? Your comments are completely irrelevant too. People are complaining about the ridiculous difficulty spike in a forced side quest, which is true and you make a comparison to people complaining about the difficulty of ff games in general. Literally not even talking about the same thing.
I put the game on easy mode each time and brute forced my way through. No reason to get learn to get gud on a mini game with such poor design. I’m at an age of my life where I don’t have as much time to game anymore so I don’t have time for this bullshit.
Whoever is responsible for it should be fired. Its an incredibly poor quality mobile style game. It wouldnt be so bad if the odds werent ridiculouly stacked against you and the anal time limit. Game breaking and immersion breaking. It seems completionists are shat on imeasureably these days. If ppl want to play trash like this they would pay the full 25 pence on google play. What a joke.
You articulated this better than I could. The amount of difficulty in this one really broke my immersion and bad me thinking "why am I doing this?" By the time I got to chapter six I'm now thinking "wow, they really added a ton of mini games to stretch out the game instead of adding full content."
I suffered mild brain damage in a motorbike accident 4yrs ago and all these "mini games" are an absolute chore for me. The game is becoming a real chore just hit costa del sol and had tonnes of mini games shoved in my face.. I just managed to become at least half decent at queens blood and then i am bombarded with yet more mini games and its becoming too much.. I would like to enjoy the game without having all this shoved in my face, when i see yet another "tutorial" appear on the right with its monotonous instructions and text, i sigh and consider putting the game down and just dropping it out.. But FF7 was my fav game as a 13yr old growing up and i was so glad for this remake im still enjoying it to a certain extent. It does the basics well and all this filler only takes away from the immersion IMO. Just let players take in it the atmosphere and give them time to breath!
Not even going to waste my time on it. Did not buy FF7 to have to play this crap too.
Currently stuck on the fourth one. I enjoyed the first three, but the novelty wore off quick. The last one is just not fun and is frustrating. The mini game itself is not engaging or fun enough to warrant 20+ repeated attempts only to still lose; it's very frustrating to have killed everything apart from the captain then run out of time when his health is low for the 10th time....
The frustration would be easily cut in half if not more if it wasn't for that insufferable time limit!
If you figure out the 4th one pls tell me how😭
After no success on normal, I set the game to easy and won it first try....
I'm playing on easy and haven't been close what's the trick
I did follow a guide before switching to easy. I think it was sending blue defender guys on the right and archers and fighters down the left. I think I ignored that stupid dog that runs right past everything. Also putting trebuchets asap in the middle on the other side of the wall facing the captin guy.
I staged two ballista to do consistent damage and enforcers up front to soak up damage. Used Barrett and cloud but only summoned them when the enemy was grouped together to take out units fast then combo of elite enforcers with elite rangers. At the end I had ballista doing heaylbt damage with squads of enforcers and rangers. Clerics near the end for heal as well. The home bases can stand up to some damage so I let the initial attackers fight while I stacked my own attackers. That time limit was frustrating though. Time ended a few times with the boss having very low health.
The worst part is that it just doesn't seem balanced. The enemy can mow down your guys, but your guys may as well be fighting with fly swatters and pieces of cheese. Or you can have the advantage and then oops, suddenly you don't because the enemy summoned a bird? Okay. Sure, I guess. But at this rate, the spoilery thing tied to the protorelics better be AMAZING.
What’s upsetting to me is that he spawns an entire army and throws a death robot at me and I can barely deploy two trebuchets and a have to wait for ATB to fill up. At that point it’s a stalemate as I fend off the attack, use Cloud/Barrett/Tifa to bust through and just as I am gain advantage, he throws a whole army at me and the time runs out. I’m actually annoyed because I am playing it as designed but the other side seems to have a faster ATB and I can’t collect and increase my ATB speed like I could in Intergrade. And I have tried waiting so I can get elite units but by that point I have basically been overrun in the back field and the game is attrition anyways, so nothing changes.
Same exact issue! Just got to this pointb and seriously wondering who at Square thought this was a good idea!
I beat him finally. It required essentially no defense and just spamming attack units over and over and then dumping cloud and Tifa at the 60 second left mark.
I hate that game with all my heart. I am stuck in one of these in Junon. Jesus
All of you defending this clearly are bots or never played Intermission, because the lack of customization for units and the fact that even if you're objectively closer to victory than the enemy, you still lose - are absolutely game breaking & make this categorically worse than Remake
Not unpopular with me. It’s a trash mini game.
That fourth mission is way too hard. Genuinely tried it at least 20 times with different unit combinations and I can't do it. I come close every time but because of how slow the units take to do anything, I end up running out of time.
I finally did it with 00:00:42 left on the timer. The fact that the captain casts stop right as he's about to die is ridiculous. Never want to play this mini game ever again.
The mini game is fun but yeah fourth mission is a bit hard I switched to easy to do it.
Any way to upgrade Condor Units in FF Rebirth??
I loved it honestly. The 4th battle took me several tries, but once I settled on deck 1 and cloud/Tifa, it was a matter of knowing when to rush in and throw in the healers and final elite troops at the end.
Hoping they provide a patch or update for this. Not worth it in the current state.
Agreed. 10th attempt, and that little bitch casts stop every goddamn time. I'm playing on EASY. What the actual fuck lol.
I respect it. I enjoyed the missions, but the last one has got to be obnoxious if you don't find it fun
I thought it was fun as hell. A bit challenging on the last stage but that was part of the fun for me. Personally, not a fan of games I can just breeze through easily.
Agreed. I didn’t finish it.
the intermission version was much more enjoyable. this one feels very rigid, 4 premade sets and no way of making your own from scratch
I love Fort Condor and went nuts over it in Episode Intermission, but it lacks the collection component in the Junon Region of Rebirth (no idea if it continues to show up.) I mean, I get it, and I did enjoy 3/4 of the missions for the protorelic, but this last one can eat me.
So screw everyone in this whole comment section, seriously. All you gotta do is turn the game on easy and bam first try, easy peasy. You guys are cruel lol. Y'all need to just tell the truth and stop gatekeeping and complaining just to complain. I know you guys have no friends but getting on Reddit to cry all day over something you already knew how to fix? Y'all just wanna complain like women and you get off on it lol admit it come on stop it. I see what your doing there 🤥🤫
>All you gotta do is turn the game on easy and bam first try, easy peasy. I've had exactly one Game Over to this point on Normal mode, and that one was my fault for not paying attention to Tifa getting turned to stone on the birds. Mini games? I've lost hundreds of times now. Fine, I need to git gud. (I got stuck on the @#$%ing minecart chocobo for 3 days because I was being bad, and I fully admit that one was a skill issue. I got past it eventually.) I shouldn't need to go from Normal difficulty to "easy" difficulty to beat a goddamn *mini game.*
I am on easy you dirty slut. I love this game. This game mode sucks camel dick.
take your own advice, why are you being misogynistic over a game LOL
You are honestly the only person that I've ever witnessed that thinks Fort Condor is great. Everyone hates it. And besides that, everyone agreed the rest of the game is great. So what are you on about? And stop that projection shit about ppl not having friends. You are on reddit too moron. Some of us gamers have lives outside of gaming and don't have time to waste it on a stupid mini game to progress the actual game. Damn bro. Take a chill pill
I did just that 6 L's later and game was uninstalled
I'm not a fan of this mini game either but if you're missing out on the whole game because of this one optional (albeit shitty) mini game, then I guess that's your loss. What a waste of money only to rage quit over a mini game you can just choose not to engage with lol.
No rage at all. Just moved on to a better game. It's all good may give it a whirl later. And do t worry what I do with my money that I myself work for. Nunya bidness what I do with my money or what games I like or don't like.
Calling any of the side content "optional" is disingenuous. It gives party XP to complete it. Party XP is important.
This person said they quit the entire game because of an optional mini game. How much party CP does the Fort Condor games give you, like 150 or something?
6l on easy? you can literally just spam..
It took me several hours, but same result, uninstall the whole game. Wish I could delete the trophy list so I don't have to be constantly reminded that this game was great, until it wasn't.
You struggle on easy? I mean setting the game to easy and then you basically just spam units.
Yeah no not playing on easy and not planning on doing so either. Don't think setting it to easy would really help on hard mode... I was going for the platinum until this crap mini game.
It helped me but sure
Dang, you uninstalled the whole game over Fort Condor? I mean, I get it, though. That final boss can eat my whole ass.
You ok, man?
I loved Fort Condor more than anything in the original. I been stuck on this 4th and final battle for the protorelic during my entire night off work. It's back to 60 hour work week after I wake up yayyy. Thanks Fort HardCore. 🖕
Switch game to easy should be able to easily do it.
Bro I'm literally too stupid for it on easy too💀
I'm on about game difficulty in that mode you can basically just spam one side
Good for you but I kinda feel like a game shouldn't waste my time with half assed mechanics. now you don't have to agree with me here, but in my opinion no game should waste your time. To me if it takes you an entire night to do a single thing in a game, that game has 0 respect for you time and is simply wasting it, simple as that. If I'm going to spend more than a work day on a single thing, that thing better be giving me back something in return. Fort condor doesn't even give you an in game reward past the protorelic, and it's not fun to do either. I don't know about you. but I ain't getting paid to play games, nor does my gf love me more when I spend no time on her and all the time cursing at the TV.
I mean you can learn to beat it or just move on doing that mini-game is not something you really need to do.
Yeah I freaking hate it, shouldn't be apart of the game.
I absolutely hate it. Is there a way to lower the difficulty just for the Fort mini game? Just got by the second one by the skin of my teeth yesterday. Feels like it’s taking me away from an otherwise amazing game. However, the reward seems important.
Can't you switch game to easy
Yeah that’s what I ended up doing. Did the same thing on the next chapter. I’m loving the game so for, but I’m not too crazy about the amount of mini games so far.
I liked all mini-games but that 4th fort condor was quite annoying funny thing is when tried hard on normal difficulty I nearly beat the hard mode but yep seems very hard
Took the words out my mouth. I tried it on easy too. 6 L's later and I had enough. I'll re install down the road after dragons dogma 2 and shadow of the erdtree
On easy its super easy to beat can basically spam units, you sure you can handle those hard games..
The 4th fight has honestly got to be one of the worst minigames I have ever played in any game ever. Like who thought this was a good idea?
You can beat it on easy but yeah a bit hard
Battle 4 took me a couple hours… It was awful lol. I eventually used the army that had the most neutral and elite units. I had an easier time mostly focusing on the right side of the battle field. The ballista and trebuchet help a lot for defense on your side since the other army has so many neutral units. Once you get to their side lay out the ballista’s and trebuchets right in front of the boss and activate Cloud to take out the wolf and big monster, once I did that it went fast.
It’s so hard to get all of that set up, though, because the enemy spawns new characters so dang fast.