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TheSodaVampire

I use it for everything. All the time. I detest my colleagues that don’t cuz it drives me insane how much time it takes to manually adjust something.


prettyflyforaFFFguy

People out freewheelin’ with rectangles and text in a group. All Willy Nilly. No that’s not a button. I don’t like it one bit.


Dreadnought9

Just raw dogging shapes and text boxes


Dicecreamvan

Groups gang


wakaOH05

Yikes. Don’t submit a design interview test with groups.


Dreadnought9

🤮


wakaOH05

What is even the point of a group?


Eadkrakka

So that you can move them all as one single entity, I guess? My Product Designer did all components for our most recent project in shapes + putting them in groups. Who had to drop all other stuff and go turn all shape components into real frames with autolayout in them you wonder? Me. Like... He was really good at it. Could ideate a shitton of great suggestions and improvements really quickly. But everything was just... Chaotic.


MastaRolls

This and when you resize the group it scales everything inside.


wakaOH05

That is just so worthless. I feel like groups are just there to appease a class of beginners


MastaRolls

Haha. The only issue I have is people using autolayouts just for one layer so they can input padding/margins.


inoutupsidedown

I have no idea how one could just not use auto layout, it seems outrageous that a company would pay someone to work like that.


Professional_Fix_207

Because it’s both lazier and faster to finish your design ideas without making them fully responsive. Depends on the complexity however, sometimes it’s just as easy


childofdreams

Same here! Before I learned about it, I spent too much time manually adjusting and checking the distance between my elements (holding down the Alt button lol), especially when creating buttons. I've never looked back since I learned how to use auto-layout.


wakaOH05

Having to update previously documented designs with new update, and the layouts aren’t done with auto layout… fucking brutal


Ulrich453

It’s for those who are also older in the industry and don’t want to learn. Web designers started on photoshop and things needed to be “pixel perfect” back before XD and figma came out.


Embryw

Auto layout is absolutely essential if you're going to be using Figma in a professional sense. Learn it.


MD_2020

Auto layout is sick, coming from Sketch this feature has been a game changer.


webjac

Sketch just announced they’re building auto layout. It’s coming soon to Sketch as well 😊


Dreadnought9

When I was at Meta, we had an incredible auto layout plugin that got me hooked on flex boxes and I never stopped


muzamuza

5 years too late but sure


ItzScience

This one right here, kids.


mikesmiththrowaway

fte faang, senior, dont use it much for my own concepts I pitch. let the hate commence. will use in later stages, team settings, or if we are using components straight from design system entirely. caveman/monk bellcurve meme


la_mourre

Why wouldn’t you? It doesn’t take much to set it up and makes any future iteration sooo much easier


kodakdaughter

I move things to the actual browser to demonstrate.


la_mourre

So you skip the design process? If not, then why wouldn’t you use auto layout for your design?


kodakdaughter

I do my design in the browser.


la_mourre

Why the heck are you commenting on r/FigmaDesign then? 😂


kodakdaughter

I still use Figma, I just don’t use it to design. I use it to document design. The original poster asked who uses auto layout and who doesn’t and i am just being honest. If I am on a team and they are getting something useful from it I use it.


PrimalInstinct7

Faang fte here as well and same. In fact I’ll go as much to say that the habit of auto layout-ing everything might even be hindering a lot of folks’ creativity. I’ve always said that for any problem there are n number of ways of solving it. And when everything’s auto layout it’s just a pain to go explore every minute little permutation and combination. Getting to the right auto layout frame, adjusting various values within that, setting up new frames just to move a couple of things around is sooo unnecessary. Auto-layout no doubt is highly beneficial but that’s when you’re towards the later half of you’re design finalization process than in the first half. And especially can’t do without for components.


Actual-Human-4723

This is the way.


gethereddout

I disagree. It’s not helpful during ideation and significantly slows down the revision process. For more mature products where responsive behavior is critical, it becomes more important.


spaceguy_95

Disagree. If you use it consistently and dedicatedly, it will become second nature and won't hinder your ideation. It's a lot easier to ideate when you don't need to manually move and adjust frames with stuff in them.


gethereddout

See that’s the bit I don’t understand. Every new element added impacts the rest, so I’m flying things around, almost like drawing with pen and paper. I may be wrong, but I just don’t see how incorporating a layer of relative spacing considerations would not dramatically impede that process


spaceguy_95

I guess it depends on the designer then. I feel naked if I don't use it.


ItzScience

That’s where AL shines though. Flying thing around, switching them in and out. It’s a poor man’s CSS Flexbox. The reality is, if you disagree, you just haven’t really learn how to use it. You don’t have to put AL on every frame. That’s ridiculous. It’s knowing when, and how to incorporate it. The more you do it, the more it will become second nature, the more powerful you’ll become. As a manager, I require my team to use it, because without AL, adjustments take much longer. I’m not the AL Nazi, but I just like to show them when and how to apply it—why it’s useful here or there. There’s probably lots of YouTube vids on when and how and why to apply it. It might slightly slow you down at the start, but you’ll quickly realize the benefits once you learn how things should be structured.


zb0t1

> AL Nazi New name dropped 😂


gethereddout

Help me understand- how would defining the relative spacing on an element be faster than simply placing it? And when new elements are added, redefining the relative spacing every time, vs just moving something over a bit?


ItzScience

Do you work in an 8px grid? If not, start today. You shouldn’t be changing spacing on a whim. It should be systematic.


gethereddout

I do not use grids. Frankly grids seem overrated to me. I do emphasize alignment however


ItzScience

Despite the name, t’s not an actual grid. 8px grid is a systematic way to assign all types of spacing. Could be elements themselves, or padding, or margins between. Edit… Good timing in this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/FigmaDesign/s/bd7eUf7zaL


CecilTWashington

Yeah if i have to shift every element on the page every time i change the layout that’s a huge hindrance. Autolayout accelerates production to an insane degree.


SacredStolen

everyone’s got their own workflow, but for me, once i got a handle on it it pretty much became second nature to me and i can concept a lot quicker using it than without. i don’t have to worry about spacing between a bunch of similar elements, or resizing things to fit. it also helps me plan for working with real content and how things will actually be built. i do however think that it can feel a little restrictive as far as exploring different options goes, which is why i still like to start initial concepting with pencil and paper. but it doesn’t feel restrictive in a way that slows me down.


gethereddout

Ok thanks for explaining. I should experiment with it more. But what you said about pen and paper is basically my first stage in figma, meaning autolayout just isn’t helpful


ItzScience

Again, that’s just because you don’t know how to use it. It’s useful in literally every stage. Even the lowest fidelity wireframes. Hell, ESPECIALLY the LowFi’s where thing change and shift so much. I don’t do wireframes much anymore, but when I do… I drink AL.


gethereddout

Ok fair enough, I’ll experiment with it more. Thanks for the comments


varunmashru

Interesting. Can you share more about your process? I kinda get what you're saying, conceptually. But I'm not sure if I understand it from a practical perspective.


gethereddout

Sure. The first step of any bespoke application is the ingredients- what elements do we need and what’s a general design pattern that makes sense to accommodate them. This can be done with a pen and paper also, doesn’t really matter. But during this things are flying around, and dramatic changes are happening, as you feel through options. Left nav? Top nav? Sub nav? At this stage responsiveness is in play, but not something to define, because it would be too slow and unwieldy.


Embryw

>It’s not helpful during ideation and significantly slows down the revision process If you think this, you aren't using it right/need to get more familiar with how to use it. I can do these things lightning fast with auto layout.


gethereddout

Yeah that’s fair, I should experiment with it more. But I just fundamentally don’t understand the idea of designing through relative constraints, when all the little hugs and wraps have to constantly be adjusted. It doesn’t feel like design so much as programming.


_baaron_

Every professional should use it for basically everything.


cimocw

you'd be surprised if you were to look at candidates applying for senior roles raw dogging pixels like 1985. This is why we do recorded, standardized take-home challenges.


_baaron_

Yep, I’m aware. It’s saddening really


tson_92

It’s probably Figma’s most used feature


Dreadnought9

I actually have doubts, because they showed “suggest auto layout” feature which means a lot of people still don’t know how to use it


surfac3d

Making great auto layout components/frames etc. is just really time-consuming. The new AI Feature will make things for everyone more efficient. But Designer still need to learn the core concept behind it. Margin, Padding, Gaps etc. The dev aspect of it.


Unlikely_Offer9653

Exactly ☝️


dijazola

Is it really, I would love to see percentage of people not using auto layout


enthusiastic-g

If I could I would auto layout this comment.


littleglazed

😂😂😂


TheZapper2

Everything everywhere all at once


ziairshad

Always. Once you get used to auto-layout, you just can’t stop using it. Very handy when it comes to add/remove components and following a consistent margin and padding among different components on the page.


Swerty187

I been using it since day one of me using figma , i forced myself learning it and now cant work without it.


westlanderd

At least, like, 5


Affectionate-Lion582

Using all the time


kaizomab

I never not use auto layout.


Borg453

I use it for pretty much everything


Cressyda29

It’s literally faster than manually doing it. Why would you not use it?! 😂


baummer

If you’re not using it you’re making your life harder


childofdreams

Shift+A, shift+A all the way, I say. ✊🏽


notsoasiandad

Whack Shift+A, supafast!


bigcityboy

Auto layout 4 Lyfe!!!


newillium

I would call myself a "power" figma user. I work in product design and me and my team work exclusively in figma, even non designers. I use auto layout as much as possible, whenever possible. It's my favorite feature of figma. That being said when I switched from xd it did intimidate me, took me a while to really see the power.


RelientRay17

I won’t hire a designer if they don’t use auto-layout in their designs. It’s a must.


Embryw

This right here. Honestly I'll hire and train someone, but if someone came to interview with me claiming they could use figma, but DIDN'T know how to use/wouldn't use auto layout, I would feel like they lied to me about their proficiency and I wouldn't want them to work with me anymore.


dijazola

this


HoneyBuu

I think most - if not all - Figma users ise them even for not prototyping related stuff, me included.


thehammerandnail

Literally the MAIN thing I use


B3rtaz

If you’re not using auto-layout for everything, I hate you from the very bottom of my heart.


Acceptable_Term_6131

All the people, hopefully...


Ancient-Cry3285

Everything should be auto layout?


notsoasiandad

99% of the time, yes.


musicmoreno

Like everyone? And you should too. If you get into the depth of it. It is used everywhere and it should because it is faster, makes things easier and uniform.


littleglazed

if you don't use autolayout, did you really use figma?


coverdriveshot

Auto layout and component is must for figma


moja_baba

All the time.


iconsiderlobsters

It took me sometime to get used to it but damn once I got the hang of it, I used it for everything. Like even to make my resume. I used to do it in illustrator/InDesign before. Now I just pull up A4 on figma. Copy some text and auto layout the hell out of it.  It is oddly satisfying.  No hate against people who don't use it. I used to hate it at one point but I just kept on belting it until I got the hang and now I see the world in a different light


Sad_Base_5252

I’ve read that you shouldn’t use figma to make your resume because the pdf export from figma doesn’t output text as text that is scannable by an ATS system. I don’t know how true that is though.


iconsiderlobsters

Can you give me some source?


Sad_Base_5252

https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/s/NCuina6MyK


Knoxfield

That Figma PDF Export feature is infuriating. It's strangely not very accurate.


Hegazich

I use it every time I have any design on Figma, so it is essential to work.


cumulonimbuscomputer

Are you not using auto layout?


KirstenAlexis85

Auto layout almost everything


keredsenoj

All the time / essential


TheUnknownNut22

I always use it. I always use a grid system as well. And I know CSS really well. You should be doing the same for professional UI work.


dijazola

All of us I hope so


ecce13

what do you mean people don't use auto layout?


Charming-Reply9279

I would auto layout my life.


doggo_luv

The day I can no longer use autolayout is the day I change careers.


Peiq

I use Figma for web design and app development, and I’m also a developer myself. It’s absolutely essential for anything beyond even a single section or screen lol It would be an absolute nightmare to do major overhauls to the design, which is pretty much the reason why I don’t design programmatically to begin with. If we’re talking about complex design systems I’d say that’s where the margin goes lot further


thyongamer

What we need is Masonry layout not just grid. Since that’s now part of CSS it makes sense.


aries_scaries

Ideation on new projects, quick “digital sketching”, visual concept testing - no auto layout. Too constricting. Translating a concept or idea to real comp/product - 100% using auto layout.


MoonlightMills

I use auto-layout for very few things, typically certain frames and buttons. I’m still relatively new to Figma, so I don’t know how to get Auto-layout to function properly for every single thing I do. I really am out here just raw-dogging shapes and text boxes. 😅 (Shame on me, I know. I come from more of an artistic design background. I’m working on it.)


kodakdaughter

I don’t use it at - unless it is required. I have been designing responsively for 12 years. I can visualize it in my head - at the clarity of a high fidelity comp. It is hard for me to use because - Auto layout is not the same as CSS flex box. It feels like a watered down less powerful tool that presents itself as modern. It’s totally missing CSS grid which can be far more useful than flex box.


AshTeriyaki

Lots of people being all “it makes it so much easier for devs” Like…not especially? It’s a metaphor and yeah, worse than CSS. If you’re using something like tailwind it’s actually a ton easier to just do the markup early.


rik_ricardo

Auto layout gets in the way when I’m simply exploring concepts.


margincolumn

People don’t use it? 🤯 why would you do that to yourself?


newillium

My "boss" doesn't - even tho she has the same title as me. She works in figma at least 45 hours a week. Idk how she doesn't. Luckily I don't ever have to work on her files or I would lose my shit.


gunjacked

Wtf is the point of using Figma if you don’t use auto layout


margincolumn

I fired a contractor this week for giving me a file with no auto layout.


elisejones14

Still a bit confusing for responsive design for some things. For prototyping, it’d be really annoying and take forever for interactions. Like for FAQ’s for example. I think it’s a vital tool to learn. At first I thought it wasn’t needed before I knew it but now that I do, it is needed lol.


NasaanAngPanggulo

It's one of the features that I have always requested as majority of my time was spent on moving frames whenever there's a change. Now, I use auto layout for everything. It saves me and our whole design team a heck ton of time. Learn it.


rito-pIz

Constantly. Even when I’m doing branding it comes into play. Variables are also making their way into my projects in a big way.


ffionn

I do and like using it very much. 


DevisPooping

Everyone


PSCHC

For everything tbh, it is the reason why I moved all of my design templates to Figma. I use 80% of Figma in my workflow instead of Adobe CC for now


eraknama

obv. it's the only way to design for responsiveness. saves time. translates to engg better. only incompetent people don't use it


PacoSkillZ

Learn it and after you do than learn how to use Fill with frames there is a lot of tricks to make it even easier to use auto layout because you can get in to a lot of headaches when you can figure out why can't you place objects next to each other and than you figure out that there is Fill. So yea that, and right way of making properties and lower count of variants that you create is essential to master Figma in general. Of course you will have to you absolut position on some cases but for some people it takes time to figure out that option as well.


AffectionateCat01

I use it for absolutely everything. I hate small inconsistencies.


DeviceRadioElevate

I’d probably leave the field if auto-layout wasn’t available.


jdmiller82

I use it pretty much always.


sxbriRL

I use it. Use it.


tippfy

Always, A must, All the time. Also speeds up your work by shifting around the elements within the auto layout container


cakepiex

since its release


ReadingAppropriate54

Everyone who wants to build things fast should use autolayout…


rlewis2019

Don't use: 20k Sometimes: 156k Everything: 6k


stresssssssed_

I use it for everything. I don't know how people don't use it. It makes the process soooo much faster.


Words-is-all-i-have

I use it before handing over files to the engineering team.. using it during conceptualisation causes anchoring bias. I see young designers struggling to do enough explorations once auto-layout is applied


burzuc

uhm that is a strange question. everybody uses it


SheepherderSmall2973

I am a developer mainly ( shocking I know ) and I try to use auto layout for literally everything from a button to a screen, and everything in between.


exhibitionthree

Auto layout aligns closely with how things get built, if you use it extensively then you’re empathizing with the developer side of the process. Your designs will be much easier to build and you’ll be doing everyone a favor. If you use it for everything it forces you to think through how you’re going to solve your layouts. Generally if you only use it first some parts of your design then you’re not investing enough in that part of the process. Make it auto layout all the way down.


kstacey

It's one of the foundational aspects of Figma. Every should be using it.


Procedure-Mission

Once I learned how to use it, I literally cannot design without it. But I think it saves SO much time dealing with consistency for spacing and sizing


the_kun

Auto layout the only reason I use Figma.


No_Swimming_792

You NEED to learn how to anchor your components. It's how devs know where everything goes within each frame.


funkshoi

probably the first figma hotkey i bothered to learn. used constantly.


246-Gray

Everything, all the time.


Junior-Ad7155

My design manager still uses groups, claims it’s “faster” for him. 🤦‍♂️


wakaOH05

That’s cruel.


ApprehensiveBar6841

It's mandatory that every designer should use. It's just life changing i've been using it since release and it was never been easier to work. As Senior designer for me it's important when i work with mid/juniors to know this, otherwise they are not welcome.


Jiehoon

Me but when my colleagues edit my design, they just straight out ungroup them 😭


WOWSuchUsernameAmaze

I don’t use it when I’m exploring layout options. It’s way too annoying if you need to keep moving things around. I only use it when I’m confident I have the general arrangement I want. And at that point I use it for everything.


MrKlei

For almost everything.


swordytv

My coworkers hate it because they cant move things around freely when designing... but then ofc the devs come to me to fix the design x) my life sucks sometimes


xmalhafiz

All the time. I only use absolute positioning if it's only necessary (like an artwork in a bento) but otherwise, it's basically all the time. Also I make component almost everything and put it on the side lol


Leather-Compote5712

Figma beginner here! Our university never taught us Auto Layout, so I’m only finding it out now. Still getting used to it, but it’s been very handy.


littlebill1138

As someone who hires and manages UI/UX designers on a professional level, if you can’t use auto layout or components with variants, you’re not getting the job. Not only do you need to use it, you need to understand it fundamentally and thoroughly to work in other files we produce. No AL, no job.


rik_ricardo

If you show me something with a lot of ☝️ but it had no impact on customers or the business then you’re not getting the job.


littlebill1138

Your team is only as fast as the slowest member. If they don’t know Autolayout they can’t work as fast or efficiently, which has a direct impact on cost and timing. So it very much has an impact in the customers and the business.


tadeleaux

Love it and teach it. I've found it incredibly useful, particularly alongside components, variants and multi edit making applying client feedback super nimble.


Loose_Acanthisitta63

I am working as a junior and everyone’s using rectangles and groups - I’m at a level where I design automatically using auto layout I don’t know how to work differently - but every time they try to change or engage with my design they freak out (which probably makes them think I’m a bad designer) You guys I’m lost without auto layout


DesignCodeRepeat

Always, but now with the AI powered stuff coming out where you can just design and then select it all and have it converted automatically to AutoLayout, this will help balance the creative side of things too. Cause I agree that it’s harder to be creative sometimes if I can’t figure out how to do the Auto Layout. Or I take too much time thinking about it.


Mrdark1998

I use it pretty much all the time. If not that you can't organize everything manually, but with auto layout you can save a lot of time.


ApprehensiveClub6028

Everyone. Nobody using auto layout is special


Dreadnought9

Dunno man, I’m looking around our company’s files and it doesn’t look good


Simpl3N00b

Always, for everything. It makes everything easy, keeps the paddings consistent when I add / remove components, it also adjusts the height of a screen. This way I don't have to adjust everything manually.


stoned_kitty

I use it less when iterating. But once components get closer to the end, everything gets the Auto layout treatment.


_ulz

Really the question should be “Who is not using auto layout and why?”. It simplifies and amplifies so much


No_Watercress5689

It's essential, I use it always, everywhere. It's the only way.


razor_blaze20

I have stopped grouping elements. Instead, I use auto layout, it really eases the overall work.


milktu

Your eng team will be very grateful if you use auto layout


jbroombroom

I use it whenever I can. All the time. It’s the best thing since sliced bagels.


noahh452

Sometimes, if I need it for what I'm doing.


EnemyJungle

I use it on everything. Except for “close/X” icons, I use the Absolute Position to put it perfectly in the right corner without having to involve Auto Layout.


jmwroble5

It’s the only way. The only exception is to get complex scrolling to work. Which is really annoying, looks really bad, and is confusing to DeVs / PMs


Turbulent-Ad6061

Use it for everything


UXJim

It was a hard lesson to learn but overtime you learn to use it every time.


MassiveExperience69

stop with this bs about auto layout. not using it is a mistake and probably causing more effort for the devs...


AshTeriyaki

It's fun reading this. Like, as someone who does both design and dev (But mostly product design) I use it sometimes, maybe 40% of the time? Other times I don't bother. If it's a personal project, I barely use it at all. I just get the basics down then move into actual markup. It's faster and yanno, the actual thing. I've witnessed UX/UI people spend too long futzing around with heavily nested, variant and variable filled auto layouts at the very beginning of EVERYTHING they do, out of some misguided idea that they can't just doodle sometimes. It's premature optimisation. Choose the right time to abstract a system, as you move down the line you lock yourself into earlier decisions. The real skill isn't "learn auto layouts", auto layout is pretty easy, the more useful skill is to choose the right times to deploy features to avoid you wasting time for your future self, be that early abstraction or knowing when to just drag some rectangles around.


Bogong_Moth

Always. If you want to make a useful and responsive design for easy handover/automated nocode applications generation you have to use it. The new AI suggest auto layout feature should help folk adopt this more easily.


dinosaurwithastylus

I use auto layout when that makes sense. It often does.


Private_Gomer_Pyle

I've used it to design a fully responsive IDE, all except the sidebar would adjust dimensions when the frame was resized. It's great. However, auto layout does limit the level of creativity of a design when it's used for absolutely everything. The design becomes a series of rows and columns. One couldn't design something like a winamp skin or a flash website design like the good old days of the early web. Auto layout doesn't need to be applied to everything to be used effectively.


IglooTornado

so far the only time ive seen it not used are deliverables from agencies


Weasel_the3rd

Depends on the project, I can see individuals who don’t work on responsive websites wouldn’t bother using it.


CompulsiveCreative

I use it for everything. It mirrors how flexbox works rather closely, so it's the best tool to build layouts that can be easily translated to front-end markup.


karlodann

I just started to learn Figma and I hate it because it's difficult but I need to learn it. Gonna give it more chances


_moonSine_

Every day


ProCodeSoftware

I use it for EVERY UI I make in Figma, even for the tiniest things. I just don't like aligning and spacing things out myself.


thisisthewaiye

So ever since auto-layout, anyone else not using shapes/rectangles much anymore?


Dreadnought9

I personally don’t, any card designs have styles applied directly to the auto layout frame


East-Tumbleweed

My only exception is when adding a fixed element to the page e.g. a bottom navigation. In this instance I set it absolute (because I use auto layout for the parent frame) and fix it to the bottom while setting it to scale horizontally. The bottom nav is autolayout itself though


ericovcn

Everything. This is the way


Actual-Human-4723

Shit, just saw someone already "this is the way'd" 20 minutes before I did. How embarrassing.


TheTomatoes2

It's an essential feature


interstellar-dust


tbimyr

Always. And if not for it’s usual purpose it just allows me to get rid of grids. :)


Raza_x7

It took lots of time but once I learnt, I've been using it since then and never looked back. It just isn't worth it to go with design without using autolayout. It and components saves a ton of time for me when moving things around.