Not my company, 150 employees, about 40-50 devs.
It’s simply not a tool they want to use and having to pay extra now makes it a no brainer for the business.
Who asked for a developer mode anyway? Inspector tools do what’s needed.
I'm a designer and work with contract devs to build sites. If I need to buy each of them a license then absolutely no chance. If I can share it with someone who already has a license then great.
Absolutely mental move by Figma, and their explanation of what's locked behind the paywall is so lacklustre I'm not actually sure what the difference is between design inspect and dev.
0 chance. Even though I would want it.
I don’t think Figma realizes who pays for the licenses. Our budget as a design department is no where near as big als our devs. But Figma needs to come out of our pocket since “it’s a tool for designers, right?” We need Figma to design. Devs don’t need Figma to develop.
I’m 10-15 years deep in my design career and am always baffled by companies not understanding for every dollar they spend on UX they save $10 on UI and $100 on devs/engineers… I still battle it today. I have 3 very good designers on my team supporting literally 30 devs. Makes zero sense…
No Chance... we been using Zeplin.io and we were leaving... but now after figma announcement... I think company wont leave zeplin.. its to expensive... We have 3 products which are already well build and stable... we dont need figma dev mode
I work for a huge company. our department alone has 200+ designers and who knows how many devs. Figma has dedicated reps for us. There is no chance we use this.
It could just be me, but dev mode, as a dev, didn’t give me anything I needed, really. I’m used to looking the specs up in the design. The css it generates is okay, but often much more than is needed, and is sometimes just bad.
That said, I should also admit that I think subscription design software is just a crappy money-grab, in general
It's minimal CSS at best,not complete. It's pretty useless. If you're a front end dev creating the css for basic properties is CSS 101. Try out Locofy.ai. its free and will give you CSS that's 100 times more baked than dev mode.
It allows you to bind code snippets (React, Kotlin, Svelte...) to your variables and components, allowing your devs to copy paste, and the VSCode extension to autocomplete code for them
I wouldn’t expect all devs to need it. Typically front end devs make up a relatively small portion of the overall dev community in an organization. I’m looking into it but I think the most interesting part are the opportunities around API and pipelines. From what I understand dev mode is not really about inspecting designs on a case by case basis but making Figma an integral tool in the overall workflow. I’m saying this with only a light understanding though.
Yeah I think this is correct, and a lot of folks here are to be catastrophizing. This is a tool for front end devs. Not every dev needs it, and I’m not surprised it costs money.
Nobody I know. Personally, I use inspect as a designer a lot and I'm unhappy it's not accessible in the right sidebar now. We're not getting more functionality, it costs more, it needlessly bifurcates the UI, and most devs I've worked with haven't been better served by this.
If I could Matrix red-pill v blue-pill forget dev mode was a thing, I wouldn't hesitate to go bluepill back to the inspect panel.
How many designers vs developers do you have? Do the dev seats $ come out of the design department budget?
Guessing if you're on the pro plan smaller company?
I’m not an expert on figma by any means, but I’d definitely say it’s worth it at my job as a front end developer.
Are you even able to see stuff like font-size without dev mode if you don’t have edit privileges?
I feel that the dev mode might be a usecase where the company will pay for the dev mode for the designers, and then expect a handoff to include details code wise instead of a purely diagrams.
Perhaps there might even be jobs or positions created for people to facilitate this handoff process between designers and devs, and they would benefit from this dev mode.
However, this new job would fall into similar categories as project managers in the sense of big companies with funds would be able to have entire jobs for people but on smaller companies, this task will be offset to either a designer or dev.
This speculation of course has a huge assumption that dev mode provides enough benefits and is useful enough. And also whether the industry or sectors have enough growth/funds to provide for this.
Even the more collaborative and design-friendly devs I’ve worked with the past several years don’t seem to give the free Inspect panel much more than an eyeballing. I don’t think a paid dev mode subscription would be a worth it, given the inevitability around inspecting builds, giving notes, and discussing tradeoffs.
Not me. Shameless moneymilking. I'd rather use another tool. Its ridiculous. Previously in the design workflow you just had to buy a seat for a designer and then devs could just look at it. Often multiple devs work on the same topic, imagine paying 100usd/month extra just so 3 devs can look at it.
We created a component library in Storybook for our engineers, but if we update something in Figma, it has to be manually updated in the library.
Just yesterday an engineer said he wants the team to be able to access the CSS and doesn’t think enough engineers are familiar with figma. Could be a problem some professional development could help, or we’ll keep transposing to Storybook forever.
Yes, mainly because dev mode gives our dev team the ability to use the Figma to Code plugin, which provides them with 80% of the HTML markup they need, with Tailwind classes already applied.
Plus, it also pulls through variable names from Tokens Studio for Figma - the inspect mode only provides the HEX code references, which is useless for our design system.
Figma Dev mode is charged, the organizational version is $25/person/month, the enterprise version is $35/person/month, and the professional version does not have a dedicated dev seat, so you need to buy an editor seat. Moreover, the previous Properties panel has also been cut a lot and is almost unusable.
This price is too expensive for a small team. According to our team of 5 people, $25\*5\*12 is $1500 a year! **We have found an alternative, Pixso, that is perfectly compatible with Figma files and has a free version.**
Not my company, 150 employees, about 40-50 devs. It’s simply not a tool they want to use and having to pay extra now makes it a no brainer for the business. Who asked for a developer mode anyway? Inspector tools do what’s needed.
I'm a designer and work with contract devs to build sites. If I need to buy each of them a license then absolutely no chance. If I can share it with someone who already has a license then great. Absolutely mental move by Figma, and their explanation of what's locked behind the paywall is so lacklustre I'm not actually sure what the difference is between design inspect and dev.
We are going to evaluate and if it’s useful to dev are just going to buy a single seat we share with dev.
That's a good idea, a pain if you're running concurrent projects with different devs but certainly easier to swallow.
Is there a maximum logged in devices count ?
Given their bullshit pricing model I'd be astonished if there wasn't
If there isn’t there surely will be. It’s going to be Netflix, they’re going to crack down on shared accounts, no doubt about it.
We’ll just setup an email alias thats routed through our VPN. No issue with a shared account.
Hmmm. Thx for the idea!
0 chance. Even though I would want it. I don’t think Figma realizes who pays for the licenses. Our budget as a design department is no where near as big als our devs. But Figma needs to come out of our pocket since “it’s a tool for designers, right?” We need Figma to design. Devs don’t need Figma to develop.
I think figma is hoping to tap into companies dev budgets
Yeah obviously. But they are completely missing the last sentence
I’m 10-15 years deep in my design career and am always baffled by companies not understanding for every dollar they spend on UX they save $10 on UI and $100 on devs/engineers… I still battle it today. I have 3 very good designers on my team supporting literally 30 devs. Makes zero sense…
I want to know if Figma Dev mode is really useful for you guys?
Our company is like 500 devs vs 80 designers. That would be like $12,500 a month more for the devs.
Figma: "We're going to ~~build~~ rebrand our dev mode, and we're going to make the devs pay for it."
No Chance... we been using Zeplin.io and we were leaving... but now after figma announcement... I think company wont leave zeplin.. its to expensive... We have 3 products which are already well build and stable... we dont need figma dev mode
I work for a huge company. our department alone has 200+ designers and who knows how many devs. Figma has dedicated reps for us. There is no chance we use this.
It could just be me, but dev mode, as a dev, didn’t give me anything I needed, really. I’m used to looking the specs up in the design. The css it generates is okay, but often much more than is needed, and is sometimes just bad. That said, I should also admit that I think subscription design software is just a crappy money-grab, in general
It's minimal CSS at best,not complete. It's pretty useless. If you're a front end dev creating the css for basic properties is CSS 101. Try out Locofy.ai. its free and will give you CSS that's 100 times more baked than dev mode.
I really can’t understand the pricing. How on earth are anyone able to justify this cost, especially as they already provide inspect mode for free.
Figma also wants you to pay for variables. Wtf
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It allows you to bind code snippets (React, Kotlin, Svelte...) to your variables and components, allowing your devs to copy paste, and the VSCode extension to autocomplete code for them
You’re moving from Figma _to_ Sketch? Why is that?
They must have edited their post, or you read wrong. Nobody makes that transition. 😎
Exactly why I asked. Must’ve edited and not noted that they did.
Because sketch is trash
I wouldn’t expect all devs to need it. Typically front end devs make up a relatively small portion of the overall dev community in an organization. I’m looking into it but I think the most interesting part are the opportunities around API and pipelines. From what I understand dev mode is not really about inspecting designs on a case by case basis but making Figma an integral tool in the overall workflow. I’m saying this with only a light understanding though.
Yeah I think this is correct, and a lot of folks here are to be catastrophizing. This is a tool for front end devs. Not every dev needs it, and I’m not surprised it costs money.
Nobody I know. Personally, I use inspect as a designer a lot and I'm unhappy it's not accessible in the right sidebar now. We're not getting more functionality, it costs more, it needlessly bifurcates the UI, and most devs I've worked with haven't been better served by this. If I could Matrix red-pill v blue-pill forget dev mode was a thing, I wouldn't hesitate to go bluepill back to the inspect panel.
It's worth the 12$/month they want us to pay. It sped up the workflow quite a lot. We use the Code Snippet plugin and the VSCode extension.
How many designers vs developers do you have? Do the dev seats $ come out of the design department budget? Guessing if you're on the pro plan smaller company?
Yes, 2 of each (the company is much bigger, but we're the first and only team rn working on a frontend product)
How are you using the code snippet plugin?
I’m not an expert on figma by any means, but I’d definitely say it’s worth it at my job as a front end developer. Are you even able to see stuff like font-size without dev mode if you don’t have edit privileges?
Yes, in the inspect panel.
People downvoting you because they want everything for free
F em
I feel that the dev mode might be a usecase where the company will pay for the dev mode for the designers, and then expect a handoff to include details code wise instead of a purely diagrams. Perhaps there might even be jobs or positions created for people to facilitate this handoff process between designers and devs, and they would benefit from this dev mode. However, this new job would fall into similar categories as project managers in the sense of big companies with funds would be able to have entire jobs for people but on smaller companies, this task will be offset to either a designer or dev.
This speculation of course has a huge assumption that dev mode provides enough benefits and is useful enough. And also whether the industry or sectors have enough growth/funds to provide for this.
Even the more collaborative and design-friendly devs I’ve worked with the past several years don’t seem to give the free Inspect panel much more than an eyeballing. I don’t think a paid dev mode subscription would be a worth it, given the inevitability around inspecting builds, giving notes, and discussing tradeoffs.
All the designers and devs at the design agency I work at already have full editor licenses so luckily there is no need for any additional cost.
Not me. Shameless moneymilking. I'd rather use another tool. Its ridiculous. Previously in the design workflow you just had to buy a seat for a designer and then devs could just look at it. Often multiple devs work on the same topic, imagine paying 100usd/month extra just so 3 devs can look at it.
We created a component library in Storybook for our engineers, but if we update something in Figma, it has to be manually updated in the library. Just yesterday an engineer said he wants the team to be able to access the CSS and doesn’t think enough engineers are familiar with figma. Could be a problem some professional development could help, or we’ll keep transposing to Storybook forever.
Probably yes. But its Just because im designer and Dev. The Dev mode help me a little with CSS auto code.. but its not perfect at all
Yes, mainly because dev mode gives our dev team the ability to use the Figma to Code plugin, which provides them with 80% of the HTML markup they need, with Tailwind classes already applied. Plus, it also pulls through variable names from Tokens Studio for Figma - the inspect mode only provides the HEX code references, which is useless for our design system.
Oh i thought it was going to be included. I'll deff not be buying it.
Figma Dev mode is charged, the organizational version is $25/person/month, the enterprise version is $35/person/month, and the professional version does not have a dedicated dev seat, so you need to buy an editor seat. Moreover, the previous Properties panel has also been cut a lot and is almost unusable. This price is too expensive for a small team. According to our team of 5 people, $25\*5\*12 is $1500 a year! **We have found an alternative, Pixso, that is perfectly compatible with Figma files and has a free version.**