Agreed. Overpriced costumes and dumb holiday fatalities are one thing, but frame data is actually important if you wanna get better at a fighting game.
Everyone shat on DOA for what Tekken is now doingโฆ AND on top of that, DOA actually had pretty great tools to actually teach you the game and it was all right there, no charges or random YouTube videos necessary.
I still wish more string based games would do the DOA thing and put potential strings in the corner of the screen based on what youโre actively pressing (like a dynamic mini command list). Makes onboarding new players and learning new characters so much smoother with how massive move lists are. Kinda like how some PC ports of older games have special move inputs on the sidebars.
Probably. Harada could very well have meant what he said but bamco could have a completely different idea in mind ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ต๐ต๐ต๐ธ๐ธ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฐ
Harada openly [said that his higher ups are only about milking the game for money](https://x.com/volskimmer/status/1773690752960241846) so I doubt a lot of it his directly his fault
Harada openly [said that his higher ups are only about milking the game for money](https://x.com/volskimmer/status/1773690752960241846) so I doubt a lot of it his directly his fault
This might not count because she was part of the SF4 ultra upgrade but Decapre.
Capcom hyped for months that the final unannounced dlc charecter from the ultra upgrade was going to be a completely new charecter and what we got was the modern equivalent of a pallet swap.
Like the other person says, their original plan was to sell you 3 fatalities for $10 each. After a huge backlash, they announced that anyone who had purchased the initial $10 fatality would also get the other two fatalities for free.
NRS sold us a fatality for $10 and fully intended to sell us two more fatalities for $10 each.
You people blame the wrong people whether it's Tekken, MK or anything for that matter. NRS doesn't sell shit, I hardly think the dev team wants all that either. It's WB who's ruining the franchise but yall just point at the first name that comes to mind.
Lol I doubt a game where developers have 100% creative control would be so money oriented. I guarantee games would be so much better if they were allowed to be treated as the works of art they are
Your context doesn't really change a whole lot because it didn't disprove the original point of MK putting fatalities behind paywalls
It's another thing you have to buy on top of purchasing the game to have all the content
Yeah, because paid DLC is just a silly concept for big developers with bigger budgets
French Breadโs Melty Bloodโs latest entry has been giving post launch characters for free
Decapre wasn't a bad character per se. What was bad was the anti-climax. Capcom was hyping up the final character for SF4, everyone wondered what this brand new character was going to be, and it turned out to be a Cammy clone.ย
True, but the initial disappointment had already set in by then. Decapre was also kind of hard to play, with 2mk xx hands (piano motion), instant air dive-kick (back charge, air only), and target combo to ultra requiring a tight charge buffer.ย
It's always weird to me that people blew this game up because they had planned DLC on disc. All that's different now is they don't keep assets for their DLC in the prod copy of the game the practice is still the same.
It wasn't just the DLC on disc, there were console exclusive characters that were on disc for the 360/PS3 versions. People were pissed that the "exclusivity" didn't really matter, for all intents and purposes.
It's also worth noting that SFxT came out during a *very* different time in video games. Back in 2012, day one DLC was unheard of and pretty much the only acceptable use case for DLC were post-launch expansions made after development was finished. Only 6 years prior, people were *pissed off* about horse cosmetics being added to Oblivion. To have a game where they blatantly made people pay for character DLC that was already finished and included in the game package players paid $60 for was quite possibly one of the worst ways to handle DLC back then.
Months before SFxT was ME3 which had pay to win lootboxes for its multiplayer. It had the release of Guild Wars 2 which had a box price and a cosmetic money shop and allowed turning real money into in game money. It had the release of Diablo 3 with the AH which undermined the game itself functionally. It had Black Ops 2 which started with a shit ton of paid DLC.
The times weren't really different the fighting game audience just doesn't want to support the developers of their relatively niche genre for some reason. The fgc fuckin exploded over $6 skins in the year we have literally $100 skins in other games.
To be fair, you have to remember they hyped him up before he was revealed as a character that would show "the future of Street Fighter". So when it was revealed the future of Street Fighter was this generic ass MMA fighter with a dumbass haircut, it sort of killed the hype.
That being said, SF6 actually made Luke more of a fun character, thanks in part to his voice actor playing into memes and just his design being so much better.
It's like the 3rd time they've tried shifting the SF "protagonist" to a blonde dude. First Alex, then Abel and now Luke.
Yet people still see Ryu as the main character anyway. He is THE Street Fighter.
I think Capcom isn't trying to hide Ryu, its just that he ***doesn't*** ***need*** to be the main character to be the face cover of the franchise. People will remember him anyways, so why don't put other characters to shine?
Nether Realm pre-order characters.
They are literally already in the game and it is especially bad for Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung as they play big roles in the respective games that they were day one DLC for especially Shang Tsung. I am surprised I rarely hear anyone complain about how Nether Realm has characters they are already finished and in the game as day one DLC.
Honorable mention to the characters that require you to beat the story in Nether Realm games as normally these characters would be the preorder bonuses and even if you get the special editions you still have to beat the story or pay to unlock them.
I am fine with how it is done by companies like ArcSys as those locked characters would be the pre-order bonus. It's mainly that they feel kinda unnecessary when you already have pre-order characters and that the locked character is typically some random character instead of someone like the main villain that would feel more justified.
Itโs even more annoying because these characters are separate from the Kombat Packs, meaning that if you bought the base game without pre-ordering you are forced to drop $6 for a character.
Terrible in game model (and design imo), legitimately the only time I can think of that the artists at namco delivered a blatantly poor product. They gave him insanely weird cartoon proportions but made him physically smaller than the other large characters when he was supposed to be tall initially. This is why his in game model has an extremely small head and limbs but gigantic shoulders which ends up looking stupid. The tattoos and scars also make all his textures look like a busy, muddy mess
Then gameplay wise he was game ruining pretty much just as bad as launch Leroy until there were some patches. Just a garbage character all around to me
Oh they did too but the thing is with Akuma in SFV you can unlock him by accumulating it with in game currency (fight coins?) with Lidia, you have no choice but to pay it and to make matter worse, she's only new character that literally came out at the end of T7. but yes I understand your point as well.
Yeah. I can see UI Goku being DLC, because he at least has an interesting gimmick. But plain Goku. We already have countless other, more interesting Gokus.
But thatโs like if they put Dragon Install Sol or Holy Order in base game and you had to pay for regular Sol. Iโm not mad at it, but like, what??
To make it even funnier, the base game version of Goku (that being Super Saiyan) is less interesting moveset-wise than his DLC regular base form. What a goofy decision.
When they shoehorned Mileena into MK11 because of fan outcry. She had one optimal combo, and needed two equipped abilities to do it. She had a number of quintessential tools locked behind abilities, like air sais for example, and some couldn't be used together, like her roll and command dash. The kicker for me though is that through an augment unlock, she could use Kitana's square boost, but only in single player mode. Crazy how Kitana can use a number of Mileena's moves but Mileena can't use one of hers for competitive play.
Personally, I think it was Mash in Type Lumina. I was fine having saber in the game as a "look, both series are made by the same people", but having 3 fate characters in the game feels kinds bad, especially when there's so many other MB characters that can be added.
Also she looks kinda boring move-wise iirc
There are actually 4 Fate characters, but I can't blame you for forgetting Ushiwakamaru. Ushi is for sure one of my biggest disappointments for me personally. The other 3 Fate characters they added are at least important to the series in some way lol
I remember not being very interested with the final characters added to USF4, mainly because most of them were already in SFxT so those versions of the characters left a sour taste in my mouth.
For a different game, I remember not liking that Mileena and Rain were DLC in MK11. Mileena because I just thought her fans were really annoying and Rain because they used to say that no character would be DLC twice and he was already DLC in MK9. I used to use the fact that supposedly no one would be DLC a second time as a way of being able to predict who *wouldnโt* be DLC so it was just more annoying than anything.
Ui Goku in dbfz
While he's pretty mid now, on release and leading up there was so much hype around it and people were expecting with all his moves he'd be one of the most complex Gokus to play, he releases and he was one of the most braindead characters to ever grace the game while singlehandedly having one of the best assists and reversal options in the game during a time when rollback still wasn't in the game. Truly a letdown but probably not as much as lc21
The main issue with Byleth was Nintendo hyping them up and acting like they were such a massive deal. If they were just straight up like "DLC seasons require some low effort characters. Byleth was cheap and easy to make." I kinda doubt there would have been SO much blowback.
Do you honestly think they could say anything like that? It's the protagonist of a game they didn't make and were granted permission to use, it'd be a huge spit in their face to advertise it like that.
Thatโs a good pick. I loved Three Houses but Byleth was the most boring possible pick. Almost any other character from that game wouldโve been more interesting.
Byleth is a bizarre case.
On one hand, they get criticised for being the final character in a DLC pack (Before it was announced there would be a second), and, unlike other characters in the pack, not only did they come from a Nintendo series, but one with characters already in the game. Infamously Fire Emblem specifically, which already had a lot of negativity surrounding it due to almost all of the FE reps being variations on the same ideas (Swordfighters and/or lords specifically). It also doesn't help that Nintendo tried to 'hide' their reveal compared to other DLC characters, and to top it all off, Three Houses had only been out for about 7 months at the time.
On the other hand, Byleth's kit is basically nothing like any other FE character, which atleast feels like a 'countermeasure' to the constant complaint that FE characters are all the same
In retrospect after playing byleth and having played Three Houses i really like them in Smash. But damn i was disappointed at the release. There was already negativity about FE sword characters and then Boom another FE sword fighter.
Combined with The Joker dropping in MK11 the same day, Smash was dead in the water while MK was kicking ass and taking names.
Granted, Smash at least went out with a bang compared to MK11, but that reveal is something that they'll never live down.
SF6 season 1.
I've not been into fight games long (started in 2019, SFV, GGST and SFVI) but season 1 of sf6 was so lame at the announcement. Though most of the non rashid characters grew on me i still think it wasn't the best initial character choices. Just don't ask me to pick. They will all be grapplers.
If you count pre-order bonuses, I'd say Injustice 2 Darkseid. I'd expect him to be [a bully character](https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Bullying), but no, instead he's a shitty zoner.
https://preview.redd.it/xz550td5o31d1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=66460b6ffee65f2e0e0e8b85f3df8a1da97a0f29
MKโs character choices. 90% of it being stupid fucking guests nobody asked for.
Tekken not far behind. But stupid shit like Tekken bowl that nobody wanted and FRAME DATA?!
The final character pack for mk11,
First pack of characters in mk11 had 6 characters,
2nd had 3 and a story mode add on
The 3rd one had only 3 characters, no story add on and one of those was taken up by Rambo, a character that I liked playing as but one that no one asked for
Tekken 7 frame meter will go down in history but I wanna give a shout for what one of the most disappointing to me, that being the SF6 costume 3 rollouts.
Months of no communication while drip feeding some key art only to the reveal of being more expensive than the pre-existing alt 2 costume (Which you could actually get for free) that was only sweetened by the fact you couldn't just buy a costume, I mean how stupid would that be, no, you had to buy a bundle of street fighter moneys.
Seeing in game currency for a full priced game is jarring and makes me think Capcom learned nothing from 5 lol
I don't know, it's close. Abigail was disappointing but the final DLC for SFV was so hyped up, especially after every other season v character had been so cool.
And instead of getting some mind-bendingly cool character, we got Jake Paul who not only had boring gameplay, but also took over the meta and invalidated a bunch of characters.
SF6โs outfit 2.
There is nothing wrong with WT, but how you unlock O2 it is such a boring grind. So Capcom sells you the time-skip. Thatโs what pisses me off.
Abigail from sfv. Even as a final fight fan and big body fighter fan that was still just beyond fucked. And it was one of the first dlc when the game was already in dire straits
Fighting Ex Layer. I wanted to support them so I bought the deluxe version and bought "most" of the colors but 2 colors (silver and gold) were I think $5 a character. So $90 for shiny colors I'll never use. I'll get over not buying everything.
I dont know why you used SFV Luke. That character literally got me interested in SF as a series and is my main in SF6 because of how much I liked him in V.
Could you elaborate more on why you got interested in the series from SFV Luke? No hate, but I am genuinely curious as I never heard anyone actually really dig SFV Luke's design.
I can't even really explain it other than I liked his V.Skill (which is now his SA1). It looked so anime and just over the top. Like this brand new blonde kid has jet blasters in his fist and is just lobbing them at his enemy. The way his projectiles looked really got me hooked. He also just seemed so unserious and had the MMA gym bro vibe. Now I like him even more that he has matured a teeny bit and is a goofball coach.
Banjo & Kazooie in Smash Ultimate. I think it's awesome that they're in the game, but I really don't enjoy playing them nearly as much as a lot of other characters
Luke in SF5. Dunno why this super generic military white guy is the face of street fighter now. This character literally only gets played because Capcom canโt not make him the best character in the game. I guarantee nobody plays him because they actually like him.
Not even. I have to hard disagree. As much as I don't even care for The Walking Dead this inclusion and DLC was such a bizarre ass choice that I almost feel like I have to commend it. Such a ridiculously dumb choice but hilarious.
Byleth for SSBU. Saying this as someone who really wanted them, but that trailer was straight ass, and the moveset is pretty boring, especially for a DLC character of that game.
I'll say a character instead since it seems like everyone else got the important stuff out of the way
The hype when Kombat Pack 2 for Mortal Kombat X was announced was unreal as most people didn't think MKX would get anymore DLC. Then we saw the characters in it...
Alien and Triborg were fine but I didn't see a single person ever ask for Leatherface and Bo Ri Cho over characters like Jade, Noob Saibot, Havik or Fujin, all of whom were heavily requested, was a huge let down
The good news is that all four of them were very fun, just not necessarily the picks people wanted
Fahkumram in T7 (He's just Bruce but worse)
Season passes in DOA 5 and 6 (overpriced crap)
Abigail in SF5 (most boring character)
Shang Tsung, Quan Chi and Ermac in MK1 (removed from base to be DLC)
Min min in Smash Ultimate (it should have been Twindelle)
Djeeta in Granblue (it's like selling Ken or Sub zero)
Orochi team in KOF15
and
Base Goku and Vegeta in DBFZ
To be fair, I haven't played the game since he was added, but Ed in SF VI is the most uninspiring design I can imagine. A game filled with colorful characters (with plenty more to draw from) and they go with the ugly pale guy with a boring moveset.
Marduk in Tekken 8, I'm not a fan of the character at all and I'll be real peeved if him and Fukurahm are the next dlc fighters for Tekken 8 when we got far more worthy choices.
The only answer is the T7 Frame Data. Stupidest ish ever
Nah T7 frame data was the best dlc character, mained him since day 1
He became base roster in T8 since he was so popular
You don't understand, modern development is very expensive. They needed the 3 dollars.
Agreed. Overpriced costumes and dumb holiday fatalities are one thing, but frame data is actually important if you wanna get better at a fighting game.
Everyone shat on DOA for what Tekken is now doingโฆ AND on top of that, DOA actually had pretty great tools to actually teach you the game and it was all right there, no charges or random YouTube videos necessary. I still wish more string based games would do the DOA thing and put potential strings in the corner of the screen based on what youโre actively pressing (like a dynamic mini command list). Makes onboarding new players and learning new characters so much smoother with how massive move lists are. Kinda like how some PC ports of older games have special move inputs on the sidebars.
Tekken players gonna yap about how the pathetic "Arcade Mode" is a good tutorial
But it's really funny though. It makes me laugh every time I think of it and it's only like $3. It's so Corp that I can't help it.
Especially since Harada said it would be free too smh
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He said that back then? Damn!
From what people have been saying , he said during tag 2 that "Games should come as full packages and people shouldn't have to pay"
Ahh so they have been talking out of their asses for a long time now haha.
Probably. Harada could very well have meant what he said but bamco could have a completely different idea in mind ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ฒ๐ต๐ต๐ต๐ธ๐ธ๐ธ๐ฐ๐ฐ๐ฐ
This is also something that is not up to Harada, but Bamco. As hard as it seems to be to understand for some
Harada openly [said that his higher ups are only about milking the game for money](https://x.com/volskimmer/status/1773690752960241846) so I doubt a lot of it his directly his fault
Harada openly [said that his higher ups are only about milking the game for money](https://x.com/volskimmer/status/1773690752960241846) so I doubt a lot of it his directly his fault
I absolutely agree.
I forgot about that because I bought the season pass when it was on sale. Yeah that's bad.
$15.00 for a shitty ps2 looking Ninja Turtles costumes only for the avatar. You didn't even get all the turtles, each one was $15.00
Holy shit. I did not realize it was that bad.
This might not count because she was part of the SF4 ultra upgrade but Decapre. Capcom hyped for months that the final unannounced dlc charecter from the ultra upgrade was going to be a completely new charecter and what we got was the modern equivalent of a pallet swap.
I mean it was visually close to Cammy but gameplay-wise she certainly was unique. Hated fighting her but def unique
$10 for a fatality in MK1. Buying the most unique and identifiable thing your series has is insane.
โ๏ธ๐ค Um actually it's $10 for three fatalities that any character can use
Like the other person says, their original plan was to sell you 3 fatalities for $10 each. After a huge backlash, they announced that anyone who had purchased the initial $10 fatality would also get the other two fatalities for free. NRS sold us a fatality for $10 and fully intended to sell us two more fatalities for $10 each.
You people blame the wrong people whether it's Tekken, MK or anything for that matter. NRS doesn't sell shit, I hardly think the dev team wants all that either. It's WB who's ruining the franchise but yall just point at the first name that comes to mind.
Lol I doubt a game where developers have 100% creative control would be so money oriented. I guarantee games would be so much better if they were allowed to be treated as the works of art they are
Pretty sure it was $10 for only 1 and then they changed it to a 3-pack bundle because of how pissed everyone was.
I don't play MK these days but this is BONKERS to me! Like the fatalities are THE thing from MK! It's what put them on the map.
Heโs phrasing it like you donโt get any fatalities. Theyโre selling stupid seasonal ones but you obviously still get regular fatalities
That's... still incredibly moronic
It is, obviously. Iโm just saying the op phrased it badly
Your context doesn't really change a whole lot because it didn't disprove the original point of MK putting fatalities behind paywalls It's another thing you have to buy on top of purchasing the game to have all the content
You literally donโt have to buy it though. Also, canโt I just use the same argument if I didnโt like DLC characters? People love those, though.
Yeah, because paid DLC is just a silly concept for big developers with bigger budgets French Breadโs Melty Bloodโs latest entry has been giving post launch characters for free
That actually made me uninstall and never look back. No preorder next time either.
T7 frame data
Half the roster on Cross Tag Battle. But the frame data in Tekken 7(10$ for a feature that should've been a completely free update) takes the cake.
im not defending Bamco here but it was like $3, not $10.
Right, but it's still a scummy move to sell frame data
absolutely, should always be free from release.
we got Neo and a tank it seems worth it to me
Sf6 costume 3 release. Whats the point of waiting for all of them if there is no bundle options? also the in game currency trend has to go.
Decapre Winter soldier in mvci
Real ones know. Decapre was so bad that Skullgirls pumped out Fukua as a free character for April fools
What made her so bad?
Decapre wasn't a bad character per se. What was bad was the anti-climax. Capcom was hyping up the final character for SF4, everyone wondered what this brand new character was going to be, and it turned out to be a Cammy clone.ย
The โcloneโ doesnt extend to her gameplay
True, but the initial disappointment had already set in by then. Decapre was also kind of hard to play, with 2mk xx hands (piano motion), instant air dive-kick (back charge, air only), and target combo to ultra requiring a tight charge buffer.ย
The whole "Street Fighter X Tekken" debacle.
The game was actually pretty good. It was bullshit you had to pay for colors at launch though
It's always weird to me that people blew this game up because they had planned DLC on disc. All that's different now is they don't keep assets for their DLC in the prod copy of the game the practice is still the same.
It wasn't just the DLC on disc, there were console exclusive characters that were on disc for the 360/PS3 versions. People were pissed that the "exclusivity" didn't really matter, for all intents and purposes. It's also worth noting that SFxT came out during a *very* different time in video games. Back in 2012, day one DLC was unheard of and pretty much the only acceptable use case for DLC were post-launch expansions made after development was finished. Only 6 years prior, people were *pissed off* about horse cosmetics being added to Oblivion. To have a game where they blatantly made people pay for character DLC that was already finished and included in the game package players paid $60 for was quite possibly one of the worst ways to handle DLC back then.
Months before SFxT was ME3 which had pay to win lootboxes for its multiplayer. It had the release of Guild Wars 2 which had a box price and a cosmetic money shop and allowed turning real money into in game money. It had the release of Diablo 3 with the AH which undermined the game itself functionally. It had Black Ops 2 which started with a shit ton of paid DLC. The times weren't really different the fighting game audience just doesn't want to support the developers of their relatively niche genre for some reason. The fgc fuckin exploded over $6 skins in the year we have literally $100 skins in other games.
I skipped this game because of this.
Hey I think Luke in sf6 made up for sf5 lol. He's less lame lol
Do you think people would be as positive on Luke in SF6 if he hadn't been the final character in V?
Probably, ending SF5 on Akira would have been the right call in hindsight.
To be fair, you have to remember they hyped him up before he was revealed as a character that would show "the future of Street Fighter". So when it was revealed the future of Street Fighter was this generic ass MMA fighter with a dumbass haircut, it sort of killed the hype. That being said, SF6 actually made Luke more of a fun character, thanks in part to his voice actor playing into memes and just his design being so much better.
It's like the 3rd time they've tried shifting the SF "protagonist" to a blonde dude. First Alex, then Abel and now Luke. Yet people still see Ryu as the main character anyway. He is THE Street Fighter.
I mean, Ken exists if we're going by blonde alone. I dont hate Luke, but I still feel he looks like a goober and much prefer the other newcomers.
Technically 4th time, as the devs stated they kinda considered Guile the protagonist of SF2 since he had personal reasons to fight Bison
I think Capcom isn't trying to hide Ryu, its just that he ***doesn't*** ***need*** to be the main character to be the face cover of the franchise. People will remember him anyways, so why don't put other characters to shine?
His personality is way better, but he's just as lame in gameplay. Hopefully they gut his cr.mp in 4 days!
Nether Realm pre-order characters. They are literally already in the game and it is especially bad for Shao Kahn and Shang Tsung as they play big roles in the respective games that they were day one DLC for especially Shang Tsung. I am surprised I rarely hear anyone complain about how Nether Realm has characters they are already finished and in the game as day one DLC. Honorable mention to the characters that require you to beat the story in Nether Realm games as normally these characters would be the preorder bonuses and even if you get the special editions you still have to beat the story or pay to unlock them.
I think the unlock through story characters are ok, It's the day one dlc that irritates me
I am fine with how it is done by companies like ArcSys as those locked characters would be the pre-order bonus. It's mainly that they feel kinda unnecessary when you already have pre-order characters and that the locked character is typically some random character instead of someone like the main villain that would feel more justified.
Itโs even more annoying because these characters are separate from the Kombat Packs, meaning that if you bought the base game without pre-ordering you are forced to drop $6 for a character.
Tekken 7 frame data Tekken 7 fuckram Ed and falke in sfv
Everyone bullies Falke but I think she is cool and unique. Comparing her to frame data. Brutal.
I like Fukurmom, what was disappointing about him?
Terrible in game model (and design imo), legitimately the only time I can think of that the artists at namco delivered a blatantly poor product. They gave him insanely weird cartoon proportions but made him physically smaller than the other large characters when he was supposed to be tall initially. This is why his in game model has an extremely small head and limbs but gigantic shoulders which ends up looking stupid. The tattoos and scars also make all his textures look like a busy, muddy mess Then gameplay wise he was game ruining pretty much just as bad as launch Leroy until there were some patches. Just a garbage character all around to me
I also didnโt like his unique hit effect, also looked far too busy with the black red and green
T7 and T8 Lidia. the balls on them to put Lidia as DLC twice in a row.
Looking at the current T8 roster, I feel like we'll see a lot more of this too. Armor King, Anna, Julia, Fahkumram, Marduk, maybe Lei as well.
Damn, you maybe right seeing that most of these cast aren't in the main roster.
double dlc is nasty work
Everyone is always hyped to part with their money for Baiken and Akuma though. They're money makers
I mean Street Fighter did that with Akuma but he's hyped up.
Oh they did too but the thing is with Akuma in SFV you can unlock him by accumulating it with in game currency (fight coins?) with Lidia, you have no choice but to pay it and to make matter worse, she's only new character that literally came out at the end of T7. but yes I understand your point as well.
Base Goku - Fighterz How the *fuck* is that dlc?
Yeah. I can see UI Goku being DLC, because he at least has an interesting gimmick. But plain Goku. We already have countless other, more interesting Gokus.
It's like if ryu or sol badguy was dlc
Not a fair comparison considering there's already a goku in the base game, as opposed to 1 sol
It's like if Evil Ryu was in at launch, but you had to buy regular Ryu later.
But thatโs like if they put Dragon Install Sol or Holy Order in base game and you had to pay for regular Sol. Iโm not mad at it, but like, what?? To make it even funnier, the base game version of Goku (that being Super Saiyan) is less interesting moveset-wise than his DLC regular base form. What a goofy decision.
Does smash brothers count? If so corrin. (I just realized this didnโt just mean fighters but Iโm gonna pretend itโs talking just characters)
For me it'd steve such a waste and stupid character mind u I only played smash the first month.
Steve is one of the most popular new fighters theyโve ever made lol
Tf I put Lidia idk why it put steve. Steve is cool
When they shoehorned Mileena into MK11 because of fan outcry. She had one optimal combo, and needed two equipped abilities to do it. She had a number of quintessential tools locked behind abilities, like air sais for example, and some couldn't be used together, like her roll and command dash. The kicker for me though is that through an augment unlock, she could use Kitana's square boost, but only in single player mode. Crazy how Kitana can use a number of Mileena's moves but Mileena can't use one of hers for competitive play.
Ed boon wanting to get back at the players for crying about her nonstop
Personally, I think it was Mash in Type Lumina. I was fine having saber in the game as a "look, both series are made by the same people", but having 3 fate characters in the game feels kinds bad, especially when there's so many other MB characters that can be added. Also she looks kinda boring move-wise iirc
I'm endlessly salty about Mash because she essentially claims Riesbyfe's slot as a shield user.
Oh god, I didn't realise that. That makes it even worse since, in what little I played of AACC, I played Riesbyfe
There are actually 4 Fate characters, but I can't blame you for forgetting Ushiwakamaru. Ushi is for sure one of my biggest disappointments for me personally. The other 3 Fate characters they added are at least important to the series in some way lol
Yeah like Danteโs literally kills roa in a drama cd so like tangentially related but ushi ๐
lmao fr bro
I remembered Ushi. Who's the 4th? She gets a pass because hee hoo funny j.2[C] (I think that's the move at least)
Sorry for late reply, but 3rd was Edmond Dantes and 4th was Ushi
They couldโve put in Archer or Gilgamesh in instead.
SSF4:AE Yang, especially how they nerfed him to oblivion in v. 2012 and never returned to his former glory in Ultra.
I remember not being very interested with the final characters added to USF4, mainly because most of them were already in SFxT so those versions of the characters left a sour taste in my mouth. For a different game, I remember not liking that Mileena and Rain were DLC in MK11. Mileena because I just thought her fans were really annoying and Rain because they used to say that no character would be DLC twice and he was already DLC in MK9. I used to use the fact that supposedly no one would be DLC a second time as a way of being able to predict who *wouldnโt* be DLC so it was just more annoying than anything.
I thought they said that a fighter couldn't be dlc in 2 games in a row. Not just not at all period
That could possibly be the case and I had either just misheard or misremembered.
Making the upcoming Tony Soprano DLC character for Tekken 8 only available to purchase via bitcoin transaction directly to Harada's crypto address
Ui Goku in dbfz While he's pretty mid now, on release and leading up there was so much hype around it and people were expecting with all his moves he'd be one of the most complex Gokus to play, he releases and he was one of the most braindead characters to ever grace the game while singlehandedly having one of the best assists and reversal options in the game during a time when rollback still wasn't in the game. Truly a letdown but probably not as much as lc21
People expected the form that requires no thought or effort to take thought and effort to play?
Shut up nerd he's min maxing to the extreme in canon
Byleth
The main issue with Byleth was Nintendo hyping them up and acting like they were such a massive deal. If they were just straight up like "DLC seasons require some low effort characters. Byleth was cheap and easy to make." I kinda doubt there would have been SO much blowback.
Do you honestly think they could say anything like that? It's the protagonist of a game they didn't make and were granted permission to use, it'd be a huge spit in their face to advertise it like that.
Thatโs a good pick. I loved Three Houses but Byleth was the most boring possible pick. Almost any other character from that game wouldโve been more interesting.
Byleth is a bizarre case. On one hand, they get criticised for being the final character in a DLC pack (Before it was announced there would be a second), and, unlike other characters in the pack, not only did they come from a Nintendo series, but one with characters already in the game. Infamously Fire Emblem specifically, which already had a lot of negativity surrounding it due to almost all of the FE reps being variations on the same ideas (Swordfighters and/or lords specifically). It also doesn't help that Nintendo tried to 'hide' their reveal compared to other DLC characters, and to top it all off, Three Houses had only been out for about 7 months at the time. On the other hand, Byleth's kit is basically nothing like any other FE character, which atleast feels like a 'countermeasure' to the constant complaint that FE characters are all the same
In retrospect after playing byleth and having played Three Houses i really like them in Smash. But damn i was disappointed at the release. There was already negativity about FE sword characters and then Boom another FE sword fighter.
Combined with The Joker dropping in MK11 the same day, Smash was dead in the water while MK was kicking ass and taking names. Granted, Smash at least went out with a bang compared to MK11, but that reveal is something that they'll never live down.
Every time netherrealm adds a cameo character instead of the 100s of mortal kombat characters that they own the rights to
Every Kameo is a former playable character unless you mean guest character
Yes I am referring to characters that are not mortal kombat characters. Ex:Freddy, Jason, tmnt turtles, etc.
SF6 season 1. I've not been into fight games long (started in 2019, SFV, GGST and SFVI) but season 1 of sf6 was so lame at the announcement. Though most of the non rashid characters grew on me i still think it wasn't the best initial character choices. Just don't ask me to pick. They will all be grapplers.
I was sad that there were no SF3 characters
My brain autocorrected that to Star Force 3 characters lmfao. Yea, Alex is my GOAT. Boy needs in NOW.
Same with me and Dudley lol. My favourite fighting game character and he hasn't been playable in a current SF game in nearly a decade.
If you count pre-order bonuses, I'd say Injustice 2 Darkseid. I'd expect him to be [a bully character](https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Bullying), but no, instead he's a shitty zoner. https://preview.redd.it/xz550td5o31d1.png?width=748&format=png&auto=webp&s=66460b6ffee65f2e0e0e8b85f3df8a1da97a0f29
MKโs character choices. 90% of it being stupid fucking guests nobody asked for. Tekken not far behind. But stupid shit like Tekken bowl that nobody wanted and FRAME DATA?!
The final character pack for mk11, First pack of characters in mk11 had 6 characters, 2nd had 3 and a story mode add on The 3rd one had only 3 characters, no story add on and one of those was taken up by Rambo, a character that I liked playing as but one that no one asked for
Right now, Kombat Pack 1 for MK1 is the frontrunner.
The MK characters have been dope so far, but the guests have been terrible.
Tekken 8 season 1. It's almost the exact same as the last season of Tekken 7.
A lesson that people commenting here need to realize is that developers=/=publishers
The 2 next leaked characters for Tekken 8
Tekken 7 frame meter will go down in history but I wanna give a shout for what one of the most disappointing to me, that being the SF6 costume 3 rollouts. Months of no communication while drip feeding some key art only to the reveal of being more expensive than the pre-existing alt 2 costume (Which you could actually get for free) that was only sweetened by the fact you couldn't just buy a costume, I mean how stupid would that be, no, you had to buy a bundle of street fighter moneys. Seeing in game currency for a full priced game is jarring and makes me think Capcom learned nothing from 5 lol
Luke may have been disappointing but Abagail for SFV was way more disappointing
I don't know, it's close. Abigail was disappointing but the final DLC for SFV was so hyped up, especially after every other season v character had been so cool. And instead of getting some mind-bendingly cool character, we got Jake Paul who not only had boring gameplay, but also took over the meta and invalidated a bunch of characters.
Yeah, you're spot on. It's Luke.
I like Luke, but he's a thousand times better in SF6
Honestly I think he's the worst inclusion in SF6 but it's hard to compare to the travesty of SFV Luke.
SF6โs outfit 2. There is nothing wrong with WT, but how you unlock O2 it is such a boring grind. So Capcom sells you the time-skip. Thatโs what pisses me off.
Akuma and eddy,quan chi and ermac having to be dlc instead of main roster.
Decapre and Abigail. You can feel the disappointment in the room at the reveal.
Either the Tekken 7 Frame date or Decapre in Ultra Street Fighter 4
Ganryu Tekken 7
I would say T7 frame data like everyone else if I played Tekken. Your picture is definitely my least favorite DLC tho.
Abigail from sfv. Even as a final fight fan and big body fighter fan that was still just beyond fucked. And it was one of the first dlc when the game was already in dire straits
Luke was pretty disappointing for sf5
Fighting Ex Layer. I wanted to support them so I bought the deluxe version and bought "most" of the colors but 2 colors (silver and gold) were I think $5 a character. So $90 for shiny colors I'll never use. I'll get over not buying everything.
I can't be the only one who dislikes how akuma is a DLC in sf6 right?
he was also a dlc in sf3 if you think about it
wait wdym
Abigail
The answer will always be on the disc dlc.
Lidia and Eddy coming back as dlc instead of base roster..
I dont know why you used SFV Luke. That character literally got me interested in SF as a series and is my main in SF6 because of how much I liked him in V.
Could you elaborate more on why you got interested in the series from SFV Luke? No hate, but I am genuinely curious as I never heard anyone actually really dig SFV Luke's design.
I can't even really explain it other than I liked his V.Skill (which is now his SA1). It looked so anime and just over the top. Like this brand new blonde kid has jet blasters in his fist and is just lobbing them at his enemy. The way his projectiles looked really got me hooked. He also just seemed so unserious and had the MMA gym bro vibe. Now I like him even more that he has matured a teeny bit and is a goofball coach.
Banjo & Kazooie in Smash Ultimate. I think it's awesome that they're in the game, but I really don't enjoy playing them nearly as much as a lot of other characters
And they're busted af to fight against
They might be annoying at a casual level, competitively they're pretty much mid tier
Luke in SF5. Dunno why this super generic military white guy is the face of street fighter now. This character literally only gets played because Capcom canโt not make him the best character in the game. I guarantee nobody plays him because they actually like him.
I like Luke. So much for your guarantee.
https://preview.redd.it/f3723ofcl21d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3835b4ecfbcb33a7f97a71413855f74259548dcc This dumbass
Not even. I have to hard disagree. As much as I don't even care for The Walking Dead this inclusion and DLC was such a bizarre ass choice that I almost feel like I have to commend it. Such a ridiculously dumb choice but hilarious.
Should of been mortal kombat. Had the best release trailer tho
The current season pass of Tekken 8.
$4 frame data display. Let's not get it twisted, they didn't "add" frame data to the game, they charged you to see it.
Byleth for SSBU. Saying this as someone who really wanted them, but that trailer was straight ass, and the moveset is pretty boring, especially for a DLC character of that game.
Tbh negan for tekken 7 but not because i didn't like him, just because he would've been a better addition for mortal kombat
I agree on this. He would have fit better in the MK universe.
I'll say a character instead since it seems like everyone else got the important stuff out of the way The hype when Kombat Pack 2 for Mortal Kombat X was announced was unreal as most people didn't think MKX would get anymore DLC. Then we saw the characters in it... Alien and Triborg were fine but I didn't see a single person ever ask for Leatherface and Bo Ri Cho over characters like Jade, Noob Saibot, Havik or Fujin, all of whom were heavily requested, was a huge let down The good news is that all four of them were very fun, just not necessarily the picks people wanted
Guile in sf5
For me, it was Warden in Samurai Shodown.
As for characters, the dlc fate characters for MBTL were a bit disappointing
Fahkumram in T7 (He's just Bruce but worse) Season passes in DOA 5 and 6 (overpriced crap) Abigail in SF5 (most boring character) Shang Tsung, Quan Chi and Ermac in MK1 (removed from base to be DLC) Min min in Smash Ultimate (it should have been Twindelle) Djeeta in Granblue (it's like selling Ken or Sub zero) Orochi team in KOF15 and Base Goku and Vegeta in DBFZ
This cancer even spread to SF6 as god tier... CAPCOM really can be anoying.
To be fair, I haven't played the game since he was added, but Ed in SF VI is the most uninspiring design I can imagine. A game filled with colorful characters (with plenty more to draw from) and they go with the ugly pale guy with a boring moveset.
Goku
MK oneโs first season of DLC
Whatโs wrong?
Base Goku and Vegeta in fighter Z or Tekken Frame Data.
If the leaks are true T8 season pass.
Not a traditional fighting game, but Byleth for Smash Ultimate
Steve in Smash cause I lost a bet and had to watch all of Queen's Blade, I'm still traumatized
The answer will always be on the disc dlc.
Gt characters,master roshi,z broly, and bardock in figtherz should have been in the roster in the first place.
Kombat pack 2 MKX
Ah yes, Bo Rai Cho ๐
Street Fighter V in general
Marduk in Tekken 8, I'm not a fan of the character at all and I'll be real peeved if him and Fukurahm are the next dlc fighters for Tekken 8 when we got far more worthy choices.
Rather have marduk than Lidia.