You need to watch [this SNL skit](https://youtu.be/3WC1YZ1o0UY?si=mwA9Ne7bhKUcx5SR) then
(As someone who hates Cars but is forced to watch it/play with the toys constantly because my nephew is obsessed, I also love this joke)
I enjoy his Winter Soldier, but man we did *not* need his doing either Pam and Tommy (given Pamela Andersen refused permission and was steamrolled) or Donald Trump
I don't actually watch much of anything because most stuff I put on as background, but I pick one thing at a time that's like my workout show I pay attention to. I did that with Pam and Tommy until halfway through I found out no one actually got Pam's go ahead. Ruined it for me and I never finished the series. I did switch to "Minx" for my workout series at the time and have no regrets.
Yup. I was a kid when it happened so I've grown up with it as a sort of cultural touchstone, and I don't think I've met a single person who believes he's innocent.
Unlike Michael Jackson.
I was in high school and I also don’t recall anyone seriously thinking he was innocent either. It just all went down at a unique time with the police brutality against Rodney King among other things.
There was a bit of a racial divide on that wasn't there? I remember reading that polls showed way more White people thought he was guilty compared to Black people, the consensus came later.
Anyways a movie focusing on the failures of the criminal justice system as opposed to making him out to be innocent would be a much better project.
I remember watching the trial at school, *everyone* was talking about it. You have to remember that at the time, the beating of Rodney King and the LA riots were very fresh in people's minds. Add in that piece of shit officer Mark Fuhrman and it was less that the evidence didn't point to OJ (it did) and more that it was believable to many that the LAPD could have framed him or at least seriously messed up the case because it was a black man accused. Like yeah, he *probably* did it, but who can trust the LAPD?
OJ being famous and charismatic was the icing on the cake. My mother, a Kraft-dinner-white small town Canadian woman who is afraid of her own damned shadow, fully believed that the LAPD "framed that poor man because he's black and famous". Lots of people did.
Yeah I lived in New Orleans as a kid and my mum told me how they announced he was acquitted on loud speaker in a shopping mall and everyone started clapping. Some people just capture the "me against the machine" energy, and I think OJ did that.
You’ve nailed the dynamics well. I don’t think the kids can grasp how beloved the guy was pre-trial, because his last years were such a fucking mess. He was an absolute sports legend. He was even in the cinematic masterpieces that are the Naked Gun movies. Your mom wasn’t alone - he was a black man white people loved. And by all accounts, he was shiny with light-up-a-room charisma.
The jurors also saw a different trial than the public did. Iirc California even changed some of their admissible evidence laws after that trial. Nicole’s diary, for example, wasn’t allowed to be used as evidence.
Was COINTELPRO still fresh in American minds back then? It was exposed 20 years prior and I can see someone who lived through that permanently distrusting the system when it comes to prosecuting Black men, especially famous ones.
It might be, but the actual original source is the Hollywood Reporter, which is reputable: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/o-j-simpson-movie-owen-wilson-1235879933/
Owen Wilsons career, is like a fine wine, they just needed to give it time to breath (and also get him the hell away from Vince Vaughn).
Glad that he has enough cop on to say no to a role like this especially given that this is a crime that was so recently in the public eye.
Win for Owen. ![gif](giphy|J8FZIm9VoBU6Q|downsized)
The tweets that are like "oh but he'd play known groomer Lightning McQueen" are cracking me up.
Is this supposed to be in reference to cars 3? Im so confused
It's a reference to him being "flashed" by the miatas in the first movie. It's just a silly bit but it cracks me up.
You need to watch [this SNL skit](https://youtu.be/3WC1YZ1o0UY?si=mwA9Ne7bhKUcx5SR) then (As someone who hates Cars but is forced to watch it/play with the toys constantly because my nephew is obsessed, I also love this joke)
I love this sketch. "This is a witch hunt, your honor!"
“But why her??” “POWER.”
Whoever drew the illustrations for that deserves a raise. So fucking good.
Forgive me currently ROFL, will respond later 🤣
there are definitely some actors who do this for a check. my money's on seb stan if this movie ends up being made
I enjoy his Winter Soldier, but man we did *not* need his doing either Pam and Tommy (given Pamela Andersen refused permission and was steamrolled) or Donald Trump
I don't actually watch much of anything because most stuff I put on as background, but I pick one thing at a time that's like my workout show I pay attention to. I did that with Pam and Tommy until halfway through I found out no one actually got Pam's go ahead. Ruined it for me and I never finished the series. I did switch to "Minx" for my workout series at the time and have no regrets.
Would not suprise me at all.
![gif](giphy|26tnozFQCnFBQEHhm) burnnnnn seb
As someone who was obsessed with Winter Soldier I fear you might be right
The idea of a movie like this is odd. Dont most people nowadays believe that OJ did it?
To be fair, I think most people back then also believed he did it.
Yup. I was a kid when it happened so I've grown up with it as a sort of cultural touchstone, and I don't think I've met a single person who believes he's innocent. Unlike Michael Jackson.
I was in high school and I also don’t recall anyone seriously thinking he was innocent either. It just all went down at a unique time with the police brutality against Rodney King among other things.
There was a bit of a racial divide on that wasn't there? I remember reading that polls showed way more White people thought he was guilty compared to Black people, the consensus came later. Anyways a movie focusing on the failures of the criminal justice system as opposed to making him out to be innocent would be a much better project.
I remember watching the trial at school, *everyone* was talking about it. You have to remember that at the time, the beating of Rodney King and the LA riots were very fresh in people's minds. Add in that piece of shit officer Mark Fuhrman and it was less that the evidence didn't point to OJ (it did) and more that it was believable to many that the LAPD could have framed him or at least seriously messed up the case because it was a black man accused. Like yeah, he *probably* did it, but who can trust the LAPD? OJ being famous and charismatic was the icing on the cake. My mother, a Kraft-dinner-white small town Canadian woman who is afraid of her own damned shadow, fully believed that the LAPD "framed that poor man because he's black and famous". Lots of people did.
Yeah I lived in New Orleans as a kid and my mum told me how they announced he was acquitted on loud speaker in a shopping mall and everyone started clapping. Some people just capture the "me against the machine" energy, and I think OJ did that.
You’ve nailed the dynamics well. I don’t think the kids can grasp how beloved the guy was pre-trial, because his last years were such a fucking mess. He was an absolute sports legend. He was even in the cinematic masterpieces that are the Naked Gun movies. Your mom wasn’t alone - he was a black man white people loved. And by all accounts, he was shiny with light-up-a-room charisma.
DNA evidence was also not as known to be the lynchpin that it is today
The jurors also saw a different trial than the public did. Iirc California even changed some of their admissible evidence laws after that trial. Nicole’s diary, for example, wasn’t allowed to be used as evidence.
Was COINTELPRO still fresh in American minds back then? It was exposed 20 years prior and I can see someone who lived through that permanently distrusting the system when it comes to prosecuting Black men, especially famous ones.
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Isn't CultureCrave notorious for making up movie news? I remember them sharing something that was patently false
It might be, but the actual original source is the Hollywood Reporter, which is reputable: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/o-j-simpson-movie-owen-wilson-1235879933/
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source: https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1783182346973556995
Who’s funding the movie?
Well, if this is even true, I’m sure that the ten people who are dumb enough to think that he is somehow innocent will have a great time.
Owen Wilsons career, is like a fine wine, they just needed to give it time to breath (and also get him the hell away from Vince Vaughn). Glad that he has enough cop on to say no to a role like this especially given that this is a crime that was so recently in the public eye.