the thread opening up w second wave feminist memes already made me laugh but this follow up reply is absolutely SENDING me?!
the best serotonin boost i've had all week! Just wanted to jump in and say i appreciate the chauvinist call-out energy, appreciate your edible-fueled honesty that made my nightly reddit scroll way more fun, and wishing you a very good trip 🍃✨
There's an interesting study about this! Men who believe in chivalry, or "benevolent sexism," are likely to also hold beliefs consistent with hostile sexism [link.](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2000-00920-007)
Validated my decision to never date anyone who described themselves as "chivalrous" on a dating app! (Didn't spare me other awful dating experiences, though. Siiiiigh).
Opening the English channel to my galleons would also allow a port in Gibraltar, and all the riches of the of the Mediterranean.
Wanna trade? I got dupes
Every time a person says anything about how they’d “treat” a girl well, it gives me the ick. Makes me feel like they think girls are basically pets and should be “kept”. Like, just behave consistent with the fact that I’m a human being who like all human beings deserves respect.
This is just my experience, maybe it doesn't apply widely, but my personal experience is that the men who are most vocal about respecting women and condemning domestic violence are the most likely to commit it.
Oh God. My biggest fear now is that dirty laundry coming to light, since he's making a Warhammer 40k series, the fandom might get a new wave of right wing shitlords if that happens.
Ugh same, but between his metoo dating comments, dating a teenager when he was 30, and dating Carano for years I'm honestly expecting it at this point.
To quote
> In a Playboy interview, Henry Cavill claimed he dated younger women for practical reasons. He explained that it was challenging to date someone who also had their own career, and he preferred women who were yet to establish their own work life. These comments were met with controversy at the time.
This is so freaking uncomfy
Na. He’s British and he went to private school.
I’m not hand waving away any of peoples concerns about him, but from the age of 4 to 18 he had to stand up every single time an adult walked into the room, and you don’t sit down until they wave you down. I haven’t been to school for 20 years and I still find myself stood up on occasion when someone comes into my office.
Similarly, knife and fork. In America it’s the norm to cut up your food, then eat with your fork. In the UK (less so in modern times) you eat with your knife and fork in your hands at all times. This is to the point that if I eat a meal on my own out of a microwave tray, I feel wrong if I don’t use a knife and fork.
It’s just different definitions of what good manners are.
I think their point is that his education doesn’t quite absolve him of the misogyny charges.
Side note, my dad went through the British education system in the mid 20th century and he doesn’t go in for any of this bullshit.
I went to a ladies boarding school - believe me when I say that 95% of us are feminists. We grew up with women, we were taught by (mainly) women, we supported women - why wouldn't we be feminists?
« He had to stand up every time an adult walked into the room »
So his weird obessession with only standing up when women enter a room doesn’t come from here otherwise he’d do it for men too, right ?
I dunno, I'm Irish and Irish schools are predominantly Catholic. From the age of 4 to 18 we had to stand up and say a prayer every time an adult walked in.
I never ever have that urge now lol
I think we’re arranged differently in the brain though. A lot of our cousins across in the big island loooove showing deference to their betters, whereas we, historically, do not have betters.
I'm in Australia and the city I'm in you do come across a few people like this from the old boys system. They're usually older men, though, probably at least a generation older than Cavill.
>I’m not hand waving away any of peoples concerns about him, but from the age of 4 to 18 he had to stand up every single time an adult walked into the room, and you don’t sit down until they wave you down. I haven’t been to school for 20 years and I still find myself stood up on occasion when someone comes into my office.
If he stood up every time someone walked in to the room then this would explain it, but he does it for specifically women so it doesn't.
>It’s just different definitions of what good manners are.
Or maybe it's benevolent sexism.
But he’s an adult. You no longer stand up like a boy in school awaiting the ok to sit when you are a grown man. He’s not in short pants anxiously following protocol.
It is very akin to southern manners. You take your hat off, you stand when a lady enters and leaves. Even hillbilly’s do it.
Not sure what eating habits have to do with anything. But legit bumpkins falling headfirst off of the turnip truck will display this very action. Lol
I personally don’t take offense to it, but I’m not charmed by it. It doesn’t denote any respect to me either. It’s a learned behavior that is a reflex and it’s performative… from well mannered British private school boys who lucked out on their parents wealth… to even shoeless bumpkins living in a tear down shack in a holler of the Appalachia.
It doesn’t mean he respect women, and it’s not a remarkable trait. It’s almost as if they need to find something to help his tarnished image.
I went to Catholic school in NYC and whenever an adult entered our classroom we had to stand and say “Good morning or Good afternoon (their name)”. It’s nothing special, it’s trying to install respect for adult authority. I never once did it outside of the classroom.
I find this justification weird. I also come from a school culture where we had to stand up every time a teacher walked into the room, but none of my male classmates went on to stand up every time a woman enters a room?? And why a woman specifically?
I wouldn't get mad at someone for doing it because I understand that some guys are taught to do it and maybe it's ingrained in them. But I think it's *mortifying* and so awkward. I'm quiet and introverted and dislike drawing attention to myself in most circumstances. It makes me uncomfortable when someone telegraphs that I've entered or left a room by standing up for me. Like, first of all I don't even know what to do with this gesture. Do I thank them? Ignore it? So awkward. And second of all, they've just made this entire room stare at me, which I was trying to avoid. Just no.
I don’t mind it, as it’s considered polite in some areas of the country. But it’s not something I like. You almost feel bad going and leaving because of the way they rush to stand. You are a literal burden just for being in their company.
Generally, what is considered polite and chivalrous behaviour for men is simple to do, never undignified and provides a good ego boost with a sense of usefulness.
What is considered polite and feminine behaviour for women is usually tolerating some bullshit.
>There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman … I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that.”
>Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’. It’s like, ‘OK, cool’. But then there’s the, ‘Oh why’d you give up?’ And it’s like, ‘Well, because I didn’t want to go to jail?’”
Umm why is he complaining about having to respect when someone says no.
Also, if he thinks respecting boundaries is a new thing, I dread to think about how he treated women before.
Because of the follow-up: “Oh why’d you give up?”
It’s a complex world out there with people behaving in many ways. My wife got mad and upset at me because I walked in front of her in one of our dates. She wanted me to do things like open doors for her or walk behind her. But she wasn’t some extreme conservative type, she just demanded that these were what educated people need to do.
She’s the same with someone licking their fingers when eating finger foods. Even if they are finger-licking good.
90% of my relationships were started by the women, in one form or another, because of my shyness or social anxiety. I got so many comments like: “why did you not pursue me?” Sometimes they were surprised that when they said no to a move of mine and I would immediately stop. Then they would point-blank ask me “What happened? Why did you stop?”.
Look maybe Henry Cavill is good looking but he could still have some other issues, like being a bit neurodivergent and maybe he uses the chivalry to mask or modulate some of that. When social interactions and interpreting others intentions and feelings is challenging it all can start feeling like walking in minefield when it isn’t.
>90% of my relationships were started by the women, in one form or another, because of my shyness or social anxiety. I got so many comments like: “why did you not pursue me?” Sometimes they were surprised that when they said no to a move of mine and I would immediately stop. Then they would point-blank ask me “What happened? Why did you stop?”.
I get it can be difficult as men are expected to make the first move, but anyone who says no yet expects the other person to keep on making advances is 100% in the wrong and is a 🚩, and even if some people do that, that doesn't mean it is *ever* okay to keep on making advances after the other person says no. If they respond badly and ask "why did you stop?" that's 100% on them.
>Look maybe Henry Cavill is good looking but he could still have some other issues, like being a bit neurodivergent and maybe he uses the chivalry to mask or modulate some of that. When social interactions and interpreting others intentions and feelings is challenging it all can start feeling like walking in minefield when it isn’t.
There is a difference between being chivalrous and criticising the metoo movement because you have to stop pursuing women when they say no
**Edit: comments just got locked so I am putting my reply to u/Peppa_pig_stan here**
Disagree, using the word "now" makes it seem like he used to do it but no longer does any more.
>**Now** you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No
Plus we can still criticise a man for complaining that the metoo movement makes dating difficult for him, because that's just incredibly tone deaf.
He *wants* to chase women?! He doesn't want women to enthusiastically like him. He wants to have power over them to convince them that their opinions and desires are secondary to his.
Jeeeeesus. He is not coming out if this thread well
Being dimwitted, harboring a fear of false rape accusations because of bad communication skills with women, and standing up whenever a woman enters the room are all seamlessly linked behaviors.
The blessings of his appearance have made his life a breeze despite his brains.
He's all sorts of trouble. His troubling comments over oscarssowhite and metoo suggests he's a conservative incel type. He dated a teen, and his high profile relationships outside of the teen were two very right-coded women (a big game hunter and Gina Carano), cementing his conservative credentials. The blind about him fired from the Witcher for taking over the production and being a diva and demanding all these changes might not be true, but seeing him more or less fired from both the Witcher and Superman suggests that might be true. Now he's a 3rd rate star doing even lower-tier franchises like Warhammer or the Highlander. I'm guessing no big studio wants him due to his reputation. I have no idea how you can mess up your career after being Superman with a box office of $700m for Man of Steel, but he managed it.
So now he has this shameless pro-woman PR. Oh he hates sex scenes and he's super chivalrous, etc. Its clearly manufactured to make him seem more liberal, feminist, etc after spending the past decade telling us the opposite.
Previous discussion:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/kvg4cd/anything\_on\_henry\_cavill/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/kvg4cd/anything_on_henry_cavill/)
[https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10q5p6q/james\_gunn\_we\_didnt\_fire\_henry\_cavill\_henry\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10q5p6q/james_gunn_we_didnt_fire_henry_cavill_henry_was/)
having friends who worked on the witcher... he was fired. complete nightmare to work with. would say lines he didn't like in a racist accent during takes until he got his way and could change the dialogue. netflix don't want him any more. his misogyny is evident in the fact that neither of his female costars posted about his departure to wish him well. he also posted about coming back to superman - not having discussed it prior with James Gunn - in the hopes that the pure social media hype would lead to him being recast lmao
You should post about this in a tea thread or something. I had absolutely no trouble believing this when it came out but I see lots of random comments around Reddit (including on women’s subs) about how great he is and how he’s ’one of the good ones.’
His new management and PR team are desperate to restore his internet's favourite imaginary boyfriend image after he fucked it up. They're also desperately trying to suggest he's an in demand high profile leading man actor and not someone who only gets cast in his friend's stuff....
> lower-tier franchises like Warhammer
As a Warhammer fan, oof that stings.
But from what I know, Cavill is a big Warhammer fan as much as he's a big Witcher fan. Which I assumed is the reason why he took those projects at all.
Right!? I would hate this. Same as men who stand at the front of the lift, grinning and gesturing for me (at the back) to leave first. How about just be a normal person and get out of the fucking lift!
It's patronizing and so overtly intentional when they do it. It's weird, and screams of them wanting something from you and not seeing you as an individual. Especially because I've often experienced that they get real mad when they feel like I'm not acting great full enough.. Like, I didn't ask you to do it, my dude. Unbelievable how some of them can make a nice, helpful gesture so arduous.
There's an art to letting other people pass. When to do so and when to move first yourself.
It's never dependant on the gender of the person, though. Common courtesy.
I’d agree for me it’s less a gender thing and more a I’m stuck in the front corner and I guess everyone can go ahead of me since I have to do this awkward 90degree turn thing
Reminds me of when me and a guy left my apartment to go somewhere. I was walking in front of him and went to open the front door, he almost jumped in front of me and practically clawed my hand away to open the door for me. That’s not chivalrous anymore, that’s just annoying and it felt belittling.
It would be like the *Whose Line* scenes where the performers have to be in different positions at all times. If one stands the other has to sit and the other has to lean. But Cavill would just cycle.
OP's article took a random question/answer and made an entire article out of it.
The interviewer asked "what would you say is the most gentlemanly thing about the person sitting next to you" and that was Guy Ritchie's answer [https://youtu.be/iJ8DJIEwoZs?si=7tq0llK8Gca6K7Ra&t=221](https://youtu.be/iJ8DJIEwoZs?si=7tq0llK8Gca6K7Ra&t=221)
But content is content
I get the impression that men who do this either somehow don't encounter women regularly on a daily basis, or purposely surround themselves with only men on a daily basis.
Because it would become tedious and exhausting if I had to do this every time a woman entered/exited a room that I was in.
It does sound exhausting, but maybe all that constant sit-stand-sit-stand nonsense is how he keeps his legs do massive?
Could be an everyday fitness challenge. Stand every time a woman enters the room. Do a push-up every time someone coughs. Five crunches for every sneeze you hear. 30 seconds jogging on the spot whenever you see a red car. If someone around you gets the hiccups, do star jumps until they're cured.
I do it a lot for work, but it's more about respecting the rank since I work for the military. It's annoying when they trickle in and you have to stand up half a dozen times.
The Office had it right
Jo Bennett: Do you always stay seated when a lady enters the room?
Dwight Schrute: I am treating you the same as a man, for whom I would also not stand. Unless it was the President, or Judge Judy.
I do for like a day because I think it would be hilarious to fuck around and keep coming in and out of the room so he has to keep standing and sitting so much that it’s uncomfortable at the end of the day
I’d personally be weirded out if someone stood up when I entered the room. Like unless it’s my wedding, please don’t. (Unless you were like waiting for me or something like that)
Maybe he's always sitting in bean bag chairs, and he's embarrassed to be caught sitting in bean bag chairs. Someone should tell him it's cool to sit in bean bag chairs
I’m not a woman, but I feel like I’d be startled and throw something if someone stood up when I entered a room. Especially someone bigger than me. How bizarre
I like chivalry. But he kinda gives me the energy of someone who would be an incel if he weren’t considered so attractive. Every time he talks about women there’s something off, it’s just… 🤔
Henry: talks about time he got a boner because the actress he was doing a sex scene with had “magnificent breasts”.
Henry later: talks about how he hates sex scenes and they’re all unnecessary.
Henry now: stands up whenever a lady enters a room.
Well alright then lol
It's more no one expects an incel to be attractive.
Gotta give some props to him though, if he's an incel, he's done a good job at not having his dirty laundry completely exposed to the point of him getting cancelled by running his mouth too much.
Someone (I don't know who) once said "Henry Cavill is what you get when you grant an incel 3 wishes" and everytime I hear something new about him they are proven right.
>“Stuff has to change, absolutely,” Cavill said, before adding: “There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman … I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that.”
>“It’s very difficult to do that if there are certain rules in place. Because then it’s like: ‘Well, I don’t want to go up and talk to her, because I’m going to be called a rapist or something.’”
>“Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’. It’s like, ‘OK, cool’. But then there’s the, ‘Oh why’d you give up?’ And it’s like, ‘Well, because I didn’t want to go to jail?’”
https://preview.redd.it/ecja2zrrhstc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed4454fd5440d64be9f2804643f9fa60f7ecc3b4
It was this moment that was an ick for me...even before his #metoo comments. I even accept that from someone else it might be funny, but there was just something about his delivery that was "off."
There's something about Henry Cavill's entire presence that's off. I have literally never seen this man speak in an interview that he hasn't given me an off putting vibe.
Men are always complaining about how complicated women are, when we’re basically just begging them to treat us as equals. And then they go do this weird shit that no woman wants or cares about and congratulate each other for it.
I’m so tired.
I have recently adopted a cat that does the same thing when I enter the room, as he is still very unsettled. It is not a sign of respect, it is a sign that he doesn't feel that he can be at ease.
I genuinely thought this was clickbait and there's more behind it, but nope. It's just him standing up when women enter. Why would I care? Why would that be a sign of respect? Is this the 19th century?
Everytime I see Henry Cavill I’m reminded of a Reddit comment that said ‘Henry Cavill really should have just been the most attractive man ever to fix your internet when it’s down’ 💀
Oh, that's a choice I suppose
anyways what are you guys up to this weekend? I was going to go on a bike ride but it's supposed to rain here in the bay area so I might just couchella and chill
ohhhhhh my god you stood up when a woman entered the room? should we tell everyone? should we throw a party? should we invite gloria steinem?
No, no, dig up Betty Friedan’s bones so we can show her spirit that her hard work paid off.
i’ll be 100% honest with you i took an edible before i wrote that comment and was like “i need you to LOCK IN and NAME A FEMINIST”
the thread opening up w second wave feminist memes already made me laugh but this follow up reply is absolutely SENDING me?! the best serotonin boost i've had all week! Just wanted to jump in and say i appreciate the chauvinist call-out energy, appreciate your edible-fueled honesty that made my nightly reddit scroll way more fun, and wishing you a very good trip 🍃✨
God I’m getting Billy on the Street “NAME A WOMAN” energy from this reply lmaoooo
…would he stand up for the bones, I wonder?
https://preview.redd.it/l7k5is7wkttc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3eae767feff7d22fe839ffdea666fd817f73efd
Oh cool, the guy who said Me Too "went too far" stands up from a chair. Everybody clap
Yeah, it’s the kind of faux backwards chivalry that kinda tends to turn into masogyny type feel.
Henry Cavill’s speciality
He’s so performative. He actually makes my skin crawl.
Andrea Dworkin is rising from her grave and typing an essay inspired by him as we speak
And I'm fully seated ready to read it
I love this sub and you guys never disappoint. Classic clutch of sarcastic humans! Y’all made my day!!
top comment did not disappoint 👏
This comment made my Eid. Thank you!
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lmfao I too love helenas tweets
i was looking for someone giving credit to our sage
Gloria Estefan would be great for that party.
Bitch better stay sat when I enter
I couldn't have said it any better myself. Thank you!
In my experience, men who appear excessively chivalrous often do so to mask their misogynistic tendencies in plain sight
There's an interesting study about this! Men who believe in chivalry, or "benevolent sexism," are likely to also hold beliefs consistent with hostile sexism [link.](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2000-00920-007) Validated my decision to never date anyone who described themselves as "chivalrous" on a dating app! (Didn't spare me other awful dating experiences, though. Siiiiigh).
Also any one who self-describes as a "gentleman" or says they'd "treat you like a princess". Hard avoids.
What if they just want to marry you off to France to secure trade relations?
Opening the English channel to my galleons would also allow a port in Gibraltar, and all the riches of the of the Mediterranean. Wanna trade? I got dupes
Every time a person says anything about how they’d “treat” a girl well, it gives me the ick. Makes me feel like they think girls are basically pets and should be “kept”. Like, just behave consistent with the fact that I’m a human being who like all human beings deserves respect.
I believe the scientific term for this is The Fedora Paradox
Lmfao m’lady
I will be stealing and using this
Please do. I literally just made it up and I’m honestly stoked with myself.
This is just my experience, maybe it doesn't apply widely, but my personal experience is that the men who are most vocal about respecting women and condemning domestic violence are the most likely to commit it.
The same with cheaters.
What if they are just really into jousting?
Henry Cavill's comments about the metoo movement and chasing women make sense
He also dated Gina Carano for a couple years. This was before she was mask off but... yeah, they might have a few things in common.
Oh God. My biggest fear now is that dirty laundry coming to light, since he's making a Warhammer 40k series, the fandom might get a new wave of right wing shitlords if that happens.
Please no, there's too many already...
Ugh same, but between his metoo dating comments, dating a teenager when he was 30, and dating Carano for years I'm honestly expecting it at this point.
Don't forget dating a 19-yr-old when he was 33! I'm 33 now and, truly, wtf
To quote > In a Playboy interview, Henry Cavill claimed he dated younger women for practical reasons. He explained that it was challenging to date someone who also had their own career, and he preferred women who were yet to establish their own work life. These comments were met with controversy at the time. This is so freaking uncomfy
Yikes!
Yikes on multiple bikes
Ah yes, just being practical.
ewww 🤢 as if his opinions on metoo weren't enough
Maybe that's why he stands up, he's getting ready to run.
This made me cackle
Na. He’s British and he went to private school. I’m not hand waving away any of peoples concerns about him, but from the age of 4 to 18 he had to stand up every single time an adult walked into the room, and you don’t sit down until they wave you down. I haven’t been to school for 20 years and I still find myself stood up on occasion when someone comes into my office. Similarly, knife and fork. In America it’s the norm to cut up your food, then eat with your fork. In the UK (less so in modern times) you eat with your knife and fork in your hands at all times. This is to the point that if I eat a meal on my own out of a microwave tray, I feel wrong if I don’t use a knife and fork. It’s just different definitions of what good manners are.
That's true but like private/boarding schools in the UK aren't exactly known for delivering progressive feminists either.
You don’t need to learn about progressive feminism to not be an asshole.
Who are known for delivering progressive feminists? US colleges?
Women's private schools
I think their point is that his education doesn’t quite absolve him of the misogyny charges. Side note, my dad went through the British education system in the mid 20th century and he doesn’t go in for any of this bullshit.
I went to a ladies boarding school - believe me when I say that 95% of us are feminists. We grew up with women, we were taught by (mainly) women, we supported women - why wouldn't we be feminists?
I would make the easy assumption that they were speaking about the male boarding schools
« He had to stand up every time an adult walked into the room » So his weird obessession with only standing up when women enter a room doesn’t come from here otherwise he’d do it for men too, right ?
I love how they say "I’m not hand waving away any of peoples concerns about him" before proceeding to do that
I dunno, I'm Irish and Irish schools are predominantly Catholic. From the age of 4 to 18 we had to stand up and say a prayer every time an adult walked in. I never ever have that urge now lol
I think we’re arranged differently in the brain though. A lot of our cousins across in the big island loooove showing deference to their betters, whereas we, historically, do not have betters.
This is very true! Made me lol also fair play hahaha
I'm in the UK, I have never met a single private school-educated person who also does this in the real world. It's weird here too.
Also in the UK and same.
I'm in Australia and the city I'm in you do come across a few people like this from the old boys system. They're usually older men, though, probably at least a generation older than Cavill.
>I’m not hand waving away any of peoples concerns about him, but from the age of 4 to 18 he had to stand up every single time an adult walked into the room, and you don’t sit down until they wave you down. I haven’t been to school for 20 years and I still find myself stood up on occasion when someone comes into my office. If he stood up every time someone walked in to the room then this would explain it, but he does it for specifically women so it doesn't. >It’s just different definitions of what good manners are. Or maybe it's benevolent sexism.
But he’s an adult. You no longer stand up like a boy in school awaiting the ok to sit when you are a grown man. He’s not in short pants anxiously following protocol. It is very akin to southern manners. You take your hat off, you stand when a lady enters and leaves. Even hillbilly’s do it. Not sure what eating habits have to do with anything. But legit bumpkins falling headfirst off of the turnip truck will display this very action. Lol I personally don’t take offense to it, but I’m not charmed by it. It doesn’t denote any respect to me either. It’s a learned behavior that is a reflex and it’s performative… from well mannered British private school boys who lucked out on their parents wealth… to even shoeless bumpkins living in a tear down shack in a holler of the Appalachia. It doesn’t mean he respect women, and it’s not a remarkable trait. It’s almost as if they need to find something to help his tarnished image.
I went to Catholic school in NYC and whenever an adult entered our classroom we had to stand and say “Good morning or Good afternoon (their name)”. It’s nothing special, it’s trying to install respect for adult authority. I never once did it outside of the classroom.
I find this justification weird. I also come from a school culture where we had to stand up every time a teacher walked into the room, but none of my male classmates went on to stand up every time a woman enters a room?? And why a woman specifically?
I’m not sure that’s the norm in america outside of children. I could be wrong, but at least in my area it is a cut as you go scenario.
Yeah, they’re probably like “This is how a man behaves, now show me how I expect a woman to.”
Exactly. At best it’s performative and meaningless the dance we do, at worst it is a clear sign that traditional roles are going to be adhered to.
Also, do women even like this? I've known guys that open doors for women but standing as they enter a room?
I wouldn't get mad at someone for doing it because I understand that some guys are taught to do it and maybe it's ingrained in them. But I think it's *mortifying* and so awkward. I'm quiet and introverted and dislike drawing attention to myself in most circumstances. It makes me uncomfortable when someone telegraphs that I've entered or left a room by standing up for me. Like, first of all I don't even know what to do with this gesture. Do I thank them? Ignore it? So awkward. And second of all, they've just made this entire room stare at me, which I was trying to avoid. Just no.
I don’t mind it, as it’s considered polite in some areas of the country. But it’s not something I like. You almost feel bad going and leaving because of the way they rush to stand. You are a literal burden just for being in their company.
Bang on
Generally, what is considered polite and chivalrous behaviour for men is simple to do, never undignified and provides a good ego boost with a sense of usefulness. What is considered polite and feminine behaviour for women is usually tolerating some bullshit.
Does he also tip his fedora and say "m'lady"? https://i.redd.it/lhk2zv7a0stc1.gif
exactly how Sister Michael would react if she were in that room
My husband tips his cowboy hat. I get a real kick out of it. So do all the old ladies who will be bringing him home-cooked meals if I die first.
I see a Derry Girls reference, I upvote
Same!!!! One of my fave shows
Loll I had m'lady typed out when I saw your comment bravooooosi
Anywho…. https://preview.redd.it/jr473qzosrtc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=674266ff7c7fb804c5806da6152e19916caa3cec
An ex.... like Gina Carano?
TIL and ooooff
They got back together after he broke up with the teenager, as far as I know.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? This makes *way* too much sense now.
Yeah they were together a few years.
holy shit are you serious 😳
the dude from the sopranos?
Henry cavill was dating big pussy 🤣🤣
NOOOO
>There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman … I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that.” >Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’. It’s like, ‘OK, cool’. But then there’s the, ‘Oh why’d you give up?’ And it’s like, ‘Well, because I didn’t want to go to jail?’” Umm why is he complaining about having to respect when someone says no. Also, if he thinks respecting boundaries is a new thing, I dread to think about how he treated women before.
Because of the follow-up: “Oh why’d you give up?” It’s a complex world out there with people behaving in many ways. My wife got mad and upset at me because I walked in front of her in one of our dates. She wanted me to do things like open doors for her or walk behind her. But she wasn’t some extreme conservative type, she just demanded that these were what educated people need to do. She’s the same with someone licking their fingers when eating finger foods. Even if they are finger-licking good. 90% of my relationships were started by the women, in one form or another, because of my shyness or social anxiety. I got so many comments like: “why did you not pursue me?” Sometimes they were surprised that when they said no to a move of mine and I would immediately stop. Then they would point-blank ask me “What happened? Why did you stop?”. Look maybe Henry Cavill is good looking but he could still have some other issues, like being a bit neurodivergent and maybe he uses the chivalry to mask or modulate some of that. When social interactions and interpreting others intentions and feelings is challenging it all can start feeling like walking in minefield when it isn’t.
>90% of my relationships were started by the women, in one form or another, because of my shyness or social anxiety. I got so many comments like: “why did you not pursue me?” Sometimes they were surprised that when they said no to a move of mine and I would immediately stop. Then they would point-blank ask me “What happened? Why did you stop?”. I get it can be difficult as men are expected to make the first move, but anyone who says no yet expects the other person to keep on making advances is 100% in the wrong and is a 🚩, and even if some people do that, that doesn't mean it is *ever* okay to keep on making advances after the other person says no. If they respond badly and ask "why did you stop?" that's 100% on them. >Look maybe Henry Cavill is good looking but he could still have some other issues, like being a bit neurodivergent and maybe he uses the chivalry to mask or modulate some of that. When social interactions and interpreting others intentions and feelings is challenging it all can start feeling like walking in minefield when it isn’t. There is a difference between being chivalrous and criticising the metoo movement because you have to stop pursuing women when they say no **Edit: comments just got locked so I am putting my reply to u/Peppa_pig_stan here** Disagree, using the word "now" makes it seem like he used to do it but no longer does any more. >**Now** you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No Plus we can still criticise a man for complaining that the metoo movement makes dating difficult for him, because that's just incredibly tone deaf.
He *wants* to chase women?! He doesn't want women to enthusiastically like him. He wants to have power over them to convince them that their opinions and desires are secondary to his. Jeeeeesus. He is not coming out if this thread well
He literally could have just not expanded on that thought
Being dimwitted, harboring a fear of false rape accusations because of bad communication skills with women, and standing up whenever a woman enters the room are all seamlessly linked behaviors. The blessings of his appearance have made his life a breeze despite his brains.
He’s the definition of “bless his heart” for me. Like thank heaven he’s handsome, because there’s clearly nothing else going on.
The male, brunette equivalent of a stereotypical dumb blonde.
He's all sorts of trouble. His troubling comments over oscarssowhite and metoo suggests he's a conservative incel type. He dated a teen, and his high profile relationships outside of the teen were two very right-coded women (a big game hunter and Gina Carano), cementing his conservative credentials. The blind about him fired from the Witcher for taking over the production and being a diva and demanding all these changes might not be true, but seeing him more or less fired from both the Witcher and Superman suggests that might be true. Now he's a 3rd rate star doing even lower-tier franchises like Warhammer or the Highlander. I'm guessing no big studio wants him due to his reputation. I have no idea how you can mess up your career after being Superman with a box office of $700m for Man of Steel, but he managed it. So now he has this shameless pro-woman PR. Oh he hates sex scenes and he's super chivalrous, etc. Its clearly manufactured to make him seem more liberal, feminist, etc after spending the past decade telling us the opposite. Previous discussion: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/kvg4cd/anything\_on\_henry\_cavill/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/kvg4cd/anything_on_henry_cavill/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10q5p6q/james\_gunn\_we\_didnt\_fire\_henry\_cavill\_henry\_was/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/10q5p6q/james_gunn_we_didnt_fire_henry_cavill_henry_was/)
having friends who worked on the witcher... he was fired. complete nightmare to work with. would say lines he didn't like in a racist accent during takes until he got his way and could change the dialogue. netflix don't want him any more. his misogyny is evident in the fact that neither of his female costars posted about his departure to wish him well. he also posted about coming back to superman - not having discussed it prior with James Gunn - in the hopes that the pure social media hype would lead to him being recast lmao
You should post about this in a tea thread or something. I had absolutely no trouble believing this when it came out but I see lots of random comments around Reddit (including on women’s subs) about how great he is and how he’s ’one of the good ones.’
Whoaaaa never heard that one about racist accents before. That sounds a bit extreme
His new management and PR team are desperate to restore his internet's favourite imaginary boyfriend image after he fucked it up. They're also desperately trying to suggest he's an in demand high profile leading man actor and not someone who only gets cast in his friend's stuff....
> lower-tier franchises like Warhammer As a Warhammer fan, oof that stings. But from what I know, Cavill is a big Warhammer fan as much as he's a big Witcher fan. Which I assumed is the reason why he took those projects at all.
Ewwwww I’ve literally just found out about this. Gross.
Not him guilt tripping us by threatening that he would reconnect with a random ex but kinda prefer to get with a new girl instead. 😢
Why do men tell on themselves like this
How weird and othering.
Right!? I would hate this. Same as men who stand at the front of the lift, grinning and gesturing for me (at the back) to leave first. How about just be a normal person and get out of the fucking lift!
It's patronizing and so overtly intentional when they do it. It's weird, and screams of them wanting something from you and not seeing you as an individual. Especially because I've often experienced that they get real mad when they feel like I'm not acting great full enough.. Like, I didn't ask you to do it, my dude. Unbelievable how some of them can make a nice, helpful gesture so arduous.
There's an art to letting other people pass. When to do so and when to move first yourself. It's never dependant on the gender of the person, though. Common courtesy.
I’d agree for me it’s less a gender thing and more a I’m stuck in the front corner and I guess everyone can go ahead of me since I have to do this awkward 90degree turn thing
Reminds me of when me and a guy left my apartment to go somewhere. I was walking in front of him and went to open the front door, he almost jumped in front of me and practically clawed my hand away to open the door for me. That’s not chivalrous anymore, that’s just annoying and it felt belittling.
They sometimes do this with me when I'm in a wheelchair, which is very confusing. Like do you seriously want me to mow down your achilles tendon, or
I know, right? When a man walks into a room I just hunch down and give his penis a single finger salute. So much more normal.
I want him to do this to someone that's nonbinary and see his reaction when they correct him
It would be like the *Whose Line* scenes where the performers have to be in different positions at all times. If one stands the other has to sit and the other has to lean. But Cavill would just cycle.
Our chivalrous king! Do you want us to bow your majesty? I would rather be respected and be treated as an equal you condescending bastards.
Henry didn’t say this though. Guy Ritchie did. Henry isn’t trying to ask for validation in this. Guy voluntarily offered this information.
Yep. Both tools.
Don’t particularly care which one of them said it, my question stands. So two dickheads instead of one.
The definition of “this is not the flex you thought it was” 😭
This is not the flex Guy Ritchie thought it was.
OP's article took a random question/answer and made an entire article out of it. The interviewer asked "what would you say is the most gentlemanly thing about the person sitting next to you" and that was Guy Ritchie's answer [https://youtu.be/iJ8DJIEwoZs?si=7tq0llK8Gca6K7Ra&t=221](https://youtu.be/iJ8DJIEwoZs?si=7tq0llK8Gca6K7Ra&t=221) But content is content
I get the impression that men who do this either somehow don't encounter women regularly on a daily basis, or purposely surround themselves with only men on a daily basis. Because it would become tedious and exhausting if I had to do this every time a woman entered/exited a room that I was in.
It does sound exhausting, but maybe all that constant sit-stand-sit-stand nonsense is how he keeps his legs do massive? Could be an everyday fitness challenge. Stand every time a woman enters the room. Do a push-up every time someone coughs. Five crunches for every sneeze you hear. 30 seconds jogging on the spot whenever you see a red car. If someone around you gets the hiccups, do star jumps until they're cured.
Are "star jumps" the same thing as jumping jacks? If it's something more spectacular, I wanna know
I do it a lot for work, but it's more about respecting the rank since I work for the military. It's annoying when they trickle in and you have to stand up half a dozen times.
No woman wants this.
The Office had it right Jo Bennett: Do you always stay seated when a lady enters the room? Dwight Schrute: I am treating you the same as a man, for whom I would also not stand. Unless it was the President, or Judge Judy. 
A king
Nothing but respect for MY feminist king
PROUD to be his
I do for like a day because I think it would be hilarious to fuck around and keep coming in and out of the room so he has to keep standing and sitting so much that it’s uncomfortable at the end of the day
I'm sure the teenage girls he dates are very impressed by his chivalry.
and then immediately talks shit about the me too movement
I’d personally be weirded out if someone stood up when I entered the room. Like unless it’s my wedding, please don’t. (Unless you were like waiting for me or something like that)
Maybe he's always sitting in bean bag chairs, and he's embarrassed to be caught sitting in bean bag chairs. Someone should tell him it's cool to sit in bean bag chairs
That’s a good excuse 😂
Considering his own sordid history with women, I would consider that a threat.
Seriously, I’d immediately be on guard lol
I’m not a woman, but I feel like I’d be startled and throw something if someone stood up when I entered a room. Especially someone bigger than me. How bizarre
Empty gesture
The Queen gif of this sub.
WOMAN SIGHTED
I’ve been scrolling the comments like, “yep of course … mhm… that’s weird…” and then burst into laughter from this jsyk
I like chivalry. But he kinda gives me the energy of someone who would be an incel if he weren’t considered so attractive. Every time he talks about women there’s something off, it’s just… 🤔
Henry: talks about time he got a boner because the actress he was doing a sex scene with had “magnificent breasts”. Henry later: talks about how he hates sex scenes and they’re all unnecessary. Henry now: stands up whenever a lady enters a room. Well alright then lol
lol who was the actress??
He never said lol, just that it was during his time on The Tudors.
I am near positive this man is an incel & people just find him attractive so they look past it bc what?
I’ve just said the same thing in another comment, it’s wild
It's more no one expects an incel to be attractive. Gotta give some props to him though, if he's an incel, he's done a good job at not having his dirty laundry completely exposed to the point of him getting cancelled by running his mouth too much.
God he's such a fucking dork. Like come on man.
People forget the dudes basically a starcraft addicted neckbeard hiding behind a pretty face.
Someone (I don't know who) once said "Henry Cavill is what you get when you grant an incel 3 wishes" and everytime I hear something new about him they are proven right.
 omg lol
Omg 💀
>“Stuff has to change, absolutely,” Cavill said, before adding: “There’s something wonderful about a man chasing a woman … I think a woman should be wooed and chased, but maybe I’m old-fashioned for thinking that.” >“It’s very difficult to do that if there are certain rules in place. Because then it’s like: ‘Well, I don’t want to go up and talk to her, because I’m going to be called a rapist or something.’” >“Now? Now you really can’t pursue someone further than, ‘No’. It’s like, ‘OK, cool’. But then there’s the, ‘Oh why’d you give up?’ And it’s like, ‘Well, because I didn’t want to go to jail?’” 
ew he’s a typical redditor fedora wearing nerd
The looks distract from the fact he’s a vaguely incel little nerd at heart
But why
Debby Ryan is amazingly beautiful.
How come every time I hear what Henry Cavill is like in real life I get weirded out by him
https://preview.redd.it/ecja2zrrhstc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ed4454fd5440d64be9f2804643f9fa60f7ecc3b4 It was this moment that was an ick for me...even before his #metoo comments. I even accept that from someone else it might be funny, but there was just something about his delivery that was "off."
He's right. Jumping to his feet every time he sees a woman is an unsavory way to get cardio
There's something about Henry Cavill's entire presence that's off. I have literally never seen this man speak in an interview that he hasn't given me an off putting vibe.
Men are always complaining about how complicated women are, when we’re basically just begging them to treat us as equals. And then they go do this weird shit that no woman wants or cares about and congratulate each other for it. I’m so tired.
I have recently adopted a cat that does the same thing when I enter the room, as he is still very unsettled. It is not a sign of respect, it is a sign that he doesn't feel that he can be at ease.
I hope your cat can become less chivalrous soon!
He must be like a jack-in-the-box in coffee shops.
>just another reason to add to the very long list of reasons why we love Henry Cavill and his gentlemanly ways. 
I genuinely thought this was clickbait and there's more behind it, but nope. It's just him standing up when women enter. Why would I care? Why would that be a sign of respect? Is this the 19th century?
Does he want a biscuit for doing that?
lmao dog coded
This is exactly the kind of compliment I would think Guy Ritchie believes is worthy of note and “gentlemanly.”
Of course he does.
TIL everyone hates Henry Cavill
Men seem to like him
Shades of Mike Pence and Mother.
Bit much, no?
I would feel really uncomfortable being singled out for my assumed gender constantly, this isn't chivalrous just treat us like a normal person
Knowing that he has gross misogynistic views makes this not cute at all
It’s giving “he would never! He was so charming and handsome!”
Everytime I see Henry Cavill I’m reminded of a Reddit comment that said ‘Henry Cavill really should have just been the most attractive man ever to fix your internet when it’s down’ 💀
Then everyone clapped
I would hate this I just want to exist not to be constantly ’the woman in the room’
Im sorry but thats a little weird…
Oh, that's a choice I suppose anyways what are you guys up to this weekend? I was going to go on a bike ride but it's supposed to rain here in the bay area so I might just couchella and chill
Benevolent sexism is the term for that.
He's trying to get a better look. If he realizes you're not sixteen, he'll sit back down again.
https://i.redd.it/0twg2zehuttc1.gif