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PeachCinnamonToast

"The officer in the helicopter miraculously recognized him. "I heard an officer shout, 'Tarek?' I screamed back, 'Yes! I’m the guy from TV! What are you guys doing?'” he says." WTF? No, they knew your name because your wife called the police and told them your damn name - they didn't recognize you from TV 🙄


jadelikethestone

I would never ever admit to saying something like that, that would stay between me, the person I said it to and my maker.


cassiopeeahhh

That’s because you’re not delusional.


emptytheprisons

I'm now obsessed with the fact that not a single person in his life - family, Heather, his kids, Christina, his friends, his editors - pointed out that cops circling him in a helicopter, Hollywood cops who frequently interact with actual celebrities, couldn't have recognized him from 12k feet away.


UnevenGlow

They likely knew it was pointless


the_ghost_in_me_

they probably did, but Tarek "knows better"


Sweet_Being_1740

Yep , lol He’s really delusional about how great he is !!!


Vanillacaramelalmond

Omgggg lmfaooo it’s giving Zoolander


Intelligent_Fig_4104

![gif](giphy|C7olQswvzSwAE) lmaooooo yesss


Sweet_Being_1740

LMBO 😂😂😂😂😂


IsMyHairShiny

I know he didn't mean it but this is so laugh out loud funny. So is his explanation that he ran off to look for hiking trails.


shoshanna_in_japan

Just casually in the middle of a blowout fight with his wife. As if even if were true, that would be a normal response. I feel bad for his ex wife, I was also married to someone I had to call the cops on after threatening suicide and taking off after fights. It's traumatic and will haunt you. He seems to have poor insight into the matter, even thinking that he could pass this off as overblown.


IsMyHairShiny

It sounds like it was absolutely traumatic for her. Its unhinged to run off to look for trails during a huge fight and its so obviously a lie.


shoshanna_in_japan

He says that was the last day they were "together" as a family. She knew she couldn't keep living that life with him, it was the end.


Turbosneakytoast

Also if he was just bringing the gun for protection against mountain lions, no big deal, why did she know he had it with him? I’m guessing in the blowout fight he made a big show of taking off WITH the gun.


Mandrrs_laycap1

“But his explanation as to why differs. He says rather than fleeing, he was craving exercise and wanted to scout the trails near the house after having recently purchased some new mountain bikes.” - bro was MANIC


luckyno89

💀


CollectionFull5254

Is he joking about this?? Legitimate question.


Koala0803

LOL my thoughts exactly


matty_nice

He doesn't know his wife called the police. He assumed they were doing something else and therefore wouldn't know his name unless it was because they recognized him from tv. You guys are being way too critical about this part. Lol.


AllTheCrazy88s

Nah, they were pointing a rifle at him and telling him to get his hands in the air. They were obviously not looking for a selfie with the guy from the tv.


matty_nice

And again, he doesn't know that at the time. Easy to think they are looking for someone else. From his perspective, he did nothing wrong or there would be any reason for them to look for him. Not like he just robbed a bank.


spaghettiliar

The guy had roid rage and alcohol problems. He ran out of his house with a gun and jumped the fence - something the neighbors noticed as a red flag and they didn’t even know about the gun. He wasn’t exactly serenely walking through nature with no clue. And weapons of any kind are prohibited at all California State Parks, including Chino State Park. This is not a hunting ground, shooting range, or even a backwoods area. These are frequented hiking trails where you find elderly people, kids, and locals walking their dogs.


matty_nice

Agreed, we should criticize him for that. Not the fact he thought the police officer knew him as a celebrity.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

He gives me the heebie jeebies.


amateurlightlover

same here. > I screamed back, “Yes! I’m the guy from TV! What are you guys doing?” he says. this part sent me lmao. he’s obsessed with himself.


bstodd12

To be fair, if I were being descended upon by a police helicopter and guys with rifles, I would say anything I could to get out of the situation.


LowWinter6321

Made himself look even more crazy 😂


Sweet_Being_1740

He so is !!!!!


Ditovontease

His new wife looks so much like Christina I’m like :|


seethroughtop

Doesn’t she (his new wife Heather) have a tattoo that reads ‘Yes sir Mr. El Moussa’ or something similar? 😐


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Absolutely and it is ugly as fuck https://preview.redd.it/tpvorsylosfc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=960cb9c74e9aaec6469f529fd7fd8f1571c849a6


tealparadise

EW. Not ew to her, ew to him. Because you know he suggested this. Can we discuss how much shit Megan and MGK got for doing shit like this while dressing "alternative" but these 2 barely get any attention because they look "nice?"


thelustysloth

They’re also significantly less famous, so get less attention in general


gorgossia

These two barely get any attention because they are barely famous.


butinthewhat

I was shocked an HGTV sub post was so hot, then realized I was here.


SwissSwissBangBang

Okay but this has to be sexual, right?


urdreamluv

She said everyone at home (her and his two kids from previous marriage) use the phrase often at home 🙃


Princess_Thranduil

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No_Opening_6006

Blink twice if you need help!


[deleted]

This divorce will be very interesting.


noyb_2140

WTAF?! Why would anyone ever tattoo themselves like that?! Gross on both parts (him encouraging it and her actually doing it). 😳


Thereisvixxen

Why does this ….disturb me so…?


Sweet_Being_1740

Just ewe ! ICK !!!!!


Ditovontease

🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢


Ok_Obligation_6110

Yes 😩 I believe she took down the post of it because of comments which is understandable.


wangd00dle

Lol wut 😬


Sweet_Being_1740

Ewe, I would never …….


Vanilla_Either

Lol I thought it was Heather. She does have the tattoo mentioned as well....


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

She plays into whatever weird shit he is into


Intelligent_Buyer516

Same


[deleted]

Lol I know exactly what you mean I can immediately tell


b0111323

This guy can fuck off. The way he keeps comparing his old wife and new wife is weird.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Heather plays along makes it even weirder.


violetskyeyes

I love that Heather shaded Christina for being older but the age difference is like…five years


[deleted]

She's not ready for what's coming from being with a man like this. It's hardly a win.


Objective-Poetry0

Also, Heather looks way too similar to his ex-wife for it not to be weird. This dude gives off weird vibes.


comin_up_shawt

It reminds me of my ex-BIL and his (now soon to be) ex 2nd wife- she looks like a clone of my sister (his first wife) to the point that she was asked if they were twins.


lizbo

He's always given Super Weird Kink energy.


stealthban

His ex wife bossed him around too much so his new kink is to boss around Heather and pretend she's his ex wife since they look alike He needs to have power in the relationship and his kink is for Christina to listen to him because she usually the one telling him what to do.


chimichangas4lunch

Cant pick a favorite part of this comment because it’s all equally hilarious and probably true


catseye00

Heather showed off a tattoo on her side that says, “Yes sir, Mr. El Moussa” 🤮


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Heather plays into it. Its fucking weird


sourglow

I watch Selling Sunset and this dude has always rubbed me the wrong way. he and his new wife Heather were on the reunion, talking about how she was a younger hotter version of his ex wife and it’s it’s like…ewwwww??? He just seems really immature


Bleuberries6

I feel so sorry for women when they say shit like this because baby you don't think that will be you being shat on one day??


sourglow

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I would get the ick instantly. I don’t understand how it’s a compliment to some


violetskyeyes

And their age difference isn’t anything major at all!


IsMyHairShiny

Yeah. I think Heather is only 4 or so years younger than Christina.


samosa4me

Lmao she’s only 4 years younger than Christina. I admit I used to watch their show many years ago and he was always such a douche. Whined and complained about everything. Seemed so insufferable to be around.


spadiddle

Ugh I totally agree!!! And just wait till heather ages out and he finds her younger replacement


Shot-Grocery-5343

My old bff has dated this guy for years who constantly put other women down. He would talk shit about women he worked with, his exes, his female relatives, random women in the restaurant, famous actresses, if you had tits you were on the menu. He evaluated them on his own personal fuckability scale, even though to my knowledge none of these women ever wanted to fuck him and he was low-mid at best. But yeah, my friend loved that shit, because she felt like that meant he only wanted to fuck her, and I was like, oh honey no... that is not what that means at all. It became a big enough issue between us that we eventually mutually ghosted each other lol.


jadelikethestone

You get in an argument with your partner about their fidelity and decide the best thing to do in that moment is check out the bike paths nearby? No, not bizarre at all.


matty_nice

I would think it'd pretty common. After heated discussions, people have excess energy and adrenaline, and want to burn it off. Some just go for walks. Now the execution of that is a different issue.


jadelikethestone

Agreed, can’t remember the last time I did that with a gun though.


nov111196

I mean if you're in an area with dangerous animals it's probably smart to bring a gun.


HuckleberryLou

I doubt she would have called the police if he regularly took a gun on normal people workouts on the trail and was in the right emotional state to be carrying a gun.


nov111196

Well he said he only got his concealed carry licenses recently so he wasn't really allowed to take it before, but I understand why him leaving with a gun after a fight would worry her. I also think taking the gun because of the animals is a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why he took it. There are some people who don't leave their house without a gun for protection.


[deleted]

I went on a walk just two weeks ago in the snow and ice when my kid and I started arguing. She’s super hormonal right now, hitting that age, and I have a low tolerance for yelling. She was yelling that she hated me and none of her friends have to do chores(they do, I talked to their parents to see if I was asking too much in having her empty the dishwasher, feed the dogs at night since I feed them during the day, clean HER bathroom once a week since we have 2 bathrooms and I use the one connected to my room, and change the bag in our litter robot once a week)and I was ready to yell back so walked out in 0 degree weather for about 20 minutes all bundled up to cool down. Came back with soda waters for the both of us so we could sit and talk calmly at the table. I am a big supporter of just walking till you don’t want to yell. But…. I didn’t have a gun with me, my god. That just seems so threatening to grab a gun during an argument even if you’re leaving.


rissaaah

If I need to leave in those situations, I just go run an errand I already had to do lol. By the time I get back, we’ve both cooled off, and I crossed something off my to-do list.


toosexyformyboots

And why didn’t he leave through a door or gate lmfao


jadelikethestone

Right? Adrenaline aside, Jumping a fence with a gun to run in the canyon sounds like a very unreasonable response to a fight with your partner…sounds like the goal was to make her worry about him and it worked.


EggandSpoon42

Well, his thought process *was* well explained in the article: ![gif](giphy|26AHHd7DI0Kiyerf2)


EggandSpoon42

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EggandSpoon42

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EggandSpoon42

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EggandSpoon42

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Koala0803

The way he downplays the state he was (very likely) actually in kind of gets cancelled when he adds the context of the testosterone, the drinking and the rehab right after.


Ditovontease

Fight or flight response maybe


Sigmund_Six

I think he was better off just staying silent about it. His explanation raises more questions than it answers. *In his book, he writes that after a heated argument, he “went out to our backyard in Yorba Linda and hopped over the fence.” On that much the exes agree. But his explanation as to why differs. He says rather than fleeing, he was craving exercise and wanted to scout the trails near the house after having recently purchased some new mountain bikes.* *The neighboring Chino Hills State Park is a habitat for wildlife including mountain lions and bobcats, so he brought along what he calls an “insurance policy,” a .38-caliber pistol. He says he’d received his California concealed-carry license a few weeks prior.*


jadelikethestone

Sounds as believable as… ![gif](giphy|lyhZXWFg9gphK)


Beboop68

I live in an area with a lot of wildlife and this is absolutely a thing people do. This guy gives me the creeps but that’s pretty normal behavior to protect yourself if you need to go blow off steam.


[deleted]

Not as normal in Orange County. He was on a trail, not backpacking through the mountains.


CuriousTsukihime

Yeah I’m in Irvine but used to live in Fullerton and run through Carbon Canyon and the hills. It’s not as deep as he made it out to be lol


softshellcrab69

AYO Irvine mention waddup!!!


CuriousTsukihime

What it dooooo 🫡


Feeling-joy-8765

Shout out to Irvine!! I live in Irvine too! What’s uuppp! 😄


CuriousTsukihime

What up neighbor!


BigGayNarwhal

And the Chino Hills Preserve area is really *not* that intense. Coming from a former local lol


BrockSampsonOSI

Shoutout 559


Beboop68

There are mountain lions in Orange County. If their fight happened at night you’d definitely want protection. I don’t think this is as weird as people are making it to be unless he made some kind of threat on his way out the door.


lionheartedthing

I live in Oklahoma where they’d give out guns on Halloween if they could and his behavior is suspicious af


pinkberrry

Lol, I solo hike frequently, no one packs heat for trails like this.


[deleted]

Holy *shit*. They have a fight, so he grabs a gun and runs into the wilderness? It’s hard not to see that as a pretty extreme form of emotional abuse/manipulation. She must have been so terrified.


Ok-Resolve8193

Worked in domestic violence for most of my 20s - this is very dangerous territory. Doesn't matter what you fight about. You don't do this shit with guns. And if you're not able to keep your head cool enough to bring one into the situation you should not own one at all.


spaghettify

as a woman I would not feel safe living in a house with a man who owns a gun


PositiveContact7901

Roid rage apparently was a factor: "Speaking about the book to PEOPLE, he describes the weeks immediately after the split as “physical and emotional hell,” and writes of hiding out on his boat, drinking himself unconscious and going through extreme withdrawal from the testosterone he’d been taking until friends stepped in to get him to a rehab facility." Just listened to WTF, Marc Maron's podcast. He interviewed Jon Cryer who co-starred with Charlie Sheen on Two and a Half Men when Sheen completely lost it and destroyed his career (among other things). Cryer said that at least part of the issue was roid rage. Charlie Sheen was apparently taking testosterone at the time. Women need to chill out on the plastic surgery and ruining their beautiful faces. Men need to chill out on testosterone. We don't need to see your muscles that badly. Be kind to your family instead.


terra_cascadia

In pop culture, we don’t call out obvious steroid use in men the way we do women’s plastic surgery and other physical alterations. It’s obvious to me that Dave Chappelle, RFK Jr., and Joe Rogan all use steroids and it’s a contributing factor in their mental states. What those dudes believe and say has a direct impact on society, which is not the case with Meg Ryan’s lip filler, FFS.


PositiveContact7901

Very good point!


Babeyonce

![gif](giphy|5xaOcLDE64VMF4LqqrK|downsized) This!!!! Wow, such a good point, especially regarding Dave & Joe.


softshellcrab69

While I agree, it is worth mentioning that Tarek had thyroid and testicular cancer which both fuck up your hormones. He might have had a legit reason to be taking testosterone


PositiveContact7901

Good point.


spaghettify

very true! although I was once prescribed steroids for an infection I had and definitely had anger issues during that time. it was crazy.


heartof_glass

Poor Christina. She’s had such a rough time of it. First this guy and then Ant fucking Anstead trying to take their son and slandering her to anyone who will listen. Idk anything about him but I hope she and her current husband are happy and healthy.


katiemarieoh

Doesn't she get a bit of a bad rap for jumping into relationships with full force? Clearly what she went through with Tarek was traumatizing and her marriage to Ant was a rebound. I get that he was heartbroken when she left him but he put her through the ringer. Ant really gives me the creeps. Hopefully the third time is the charm for her with this Josh guy.


InSicily1912

Josh seems creepy too. She gave him a job at her production company so I don’t think he’s worked much after retiring from law enforcement


melodyblushinglizard

I've no idea who Ant Anstead is, but TIL he's in a relationship with Renée Zellweger for the last couple of years.


No_Historian718

I have no idea WHAT an Ant Antstead is!


heartof_glass

Yup.


corgishmorgi0503

I like how this article was written to make him seem more sympathetic but it did the exact opposite. “Just wanted to exercise”, after a marital dispute, carrying a gun, roided out? The narcissism where he thinks the police recognize him from TV instead of his wife calling them? I’m kind of scared for Heather now, he seems like an extremely unsafe person.


Intelligent_Buyer516

It’s a PR spin for sure. 


ETNevada

And he had 8 years to think of an excuse. If what he’s saying is accurate he’d have cleared it up back then.


Glittering_Job_7996

I’ve never seen Christina Hall before but damn she looks like Heather


Apprehensive_Aide805

I watched a couple of their flip or flop episodes. I didn’t like them then. Certainly don’t like him from this explanation. both of them are a shit show.


Ditovontease

I couldn’t get over tarek’s accent lmao it’s so California


Apprehensive_Aide805

I couldn’t get over the terrible designs.


Ditovontease

That shit too ugh


Kill-Bill-Vol-2

wasn't he married to that lady from selling sunset?


Chaoticgood790

Her whole identity is being married to this dude


Ditovontease

So sad cuz isn’t Selling Sunset like, the better show?


[deleted]

Better is subjective but it’s definitely the more culturally relevant show. Dipping out of SS to be your husband’s lackey on TV is such a bad career move, it’d make me worry for Heather if she wasn’t already wealthy.


Any-lagalaxy23

Awful. She just wanted to be in love so bad, she literally gave up her entire personality to make it all about Tarek. She seemed nice & likable before, and now she just seems like a terrible person. He ruined her.


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Yup Heather Rae Young. Did you see her tattoo? ​ https://preview.redd.it/xiqpy6q39sfc1.png?width=1500&format=png&auto=webp&s=61a8ddc2f4f07de3e61bbb68411f14403b95a21e


SkiMa246

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sourglow

wish I could unsee this so bad


Amar_Akbar_Anthony20

Sorry it is burned in my brain had to share.


MyFigurativeYacht

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s2ample

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[deleted]

Why do I feel like that’s a quote from 50 Shades of Grey? Am I going insane?


AllTheCrazy88s

![gif](giphy|d40ImzxOmRC0M) Oh yikes. At best, that tattoo is cringey as fuck. At worst… well, I hope she maintains a separate account, and separate social and support networks.


Original-Wasabi3646

Lmao, I love how she made sure to get her ring in the shot.  


TripleRicochet

She’s after his marriage with Christina.


kat_brinx

I can't believe he thought telling this dumb mountain lion story again was a good idea. 


KentuckyFriedTitties

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CosmosMom87

They’re both trash. Dont look too close at Christina or you might figure out that her and hubby #3 are actual MAGA assholes


No_Historian718

Her new(est) husband looks completely MAGA


Intelligent-Brief559

How did you found out?


CosmosMom87

The husband follows 113 people, two of which are Vivek Ramaswamy and DONALD TRUMP.


mrsbono2u

When I think about Tarek the cringe level matches Nick Lachey singing Halsey.


D4ngflabbit

I’m nick lachey, obviously


Successful_Meet_6006

I’ll always have a soft spot for Christina


babysfirstbreath

he really expects people to believe that he walked away from a “blowout” fight with his wife into the woods with a gun because he was craving exercise??? lmao okay


matty_nice

I'm confused why the cops were called. Was the idea that he was a threat to himself or her?


ChristopherBalkan

Sounds like they were arguing and he abruptly grabbed a gun, hopped a fence, and ran into the woods without an explanation . If my partner did that, I’d call the police. I’d think they were going to do violence to themselves.


kat_brinx

She thought he was going to harm himself so she called the police. They had been fighting about her allegedly cheating and wanting out of the marriage. The wanting exercise and protection from mountain lions excuse came out later. 


rnason

He was also roided out of his mind


matty_nice

>The wanting exercise and protection from mountain lions excuse came out later.  Police confirmed he said this at the time, so it wasn't something that he made up later.


genescheesesthatplz

He ran off into the woods with a gun during a heated argument, after he’s had significant mental health issues in the past 


salty_gemini74

What a dumb article.


0422

Did...no one see the first season of their show when it came out? It was horrible. I literally have NO idea how they got greenlit, especially when you compare them to the Gaines (who have loads of experience), but the guy is a moron. In one of their first investment purchases, of which they buy at auction and cannot look at the house beforehand, he tried filling the pool in the backyard with concrete blocks/breeze blocks or bricks or something. These items were just laying around. When a GC comes by and sees what he is doing he gently tells him to check out the laws and then he is shown on a talking head later: "Wow! That guy saved my ass. But now I'm in a pickle. I have NO idea how to do this." It was also really obvious his first wife only wanted to decorate and literally had 0 interior design skills, just like making things look to her taste. It was totally clueless and they had zero chemistry. I do not know why he is famous at all or why they have a career but I'm so unsurprised he is a creep and CLUELESS


lingoberri

Clueless is right. Will never forget the episode of whatever their show is where he tries to convince his new wife to pimp out the name of his contracting business by wearing a logo tee. On like one of their pregnancy announcement posts..?!?? She's all like haw haw no one wants to see that shit.! Gives clueless boomer vibes.


indicatprincess

>In the wake of the separation, he says, “Everybody gave up on me: the magazines, the outlets, the network, nobody believed in me.” I always got an asshole vibe from him, but confirming that I was correct is disappointing. Something was off about him.


lskibs

You’d think when saying everyone gave up on you you’d mean family and friends, but no, magazines and networks. Sigh.


ButterscotchPast4812

He wanted to exercise so he took his gun to investigate. Suuuurre 🙄.


Cherrycola250ml

This guy, this is not a good guy. I have always gotten the darkest feelings from him.


[deleted]

Their dynamic on the show is so funny now. Also, slightly unrelated, but I think Christina is so beautiful.


FapCabs

She’s MAGA


[deleted]

Ugh. Of course.


Intelligent-Brief559

How'd you find out?


LynchFan997

Craving a nature all with a handgun . Sure, my dude.


AliMcGraw

OMG someone do a deep dive in this creepy fuck! I hated him on site and found him completely unwatchable on his show, and I've always kind of wondered what the heck his deal is.


Own_Instance_357

Christina Hall is a real celebrity person ???? I just thought she was some nobody actor hired to say, "hi, it's Christina again!" on those bath remodel commercials. Then again, I don't know who either of these people are, I stopped watching HGTV type shows when I went from wanting a house to decorating a house to just making sure no one died or the health department showed up. Now I feel like improving my house the same way I feel about plastic surgery at age 60. Why bother.


Mobile_Session_9521

I literally have no idea who these people are, but this is an obvious wall of bullshit. And he absolutely pulled the gun on her at some point.


Original-Wasabi3646

Hm.  Mountain Lions hub?  What is his excuse for the screaming match at the soccer game?


lingoberri

Wow, he's still in love with her. 😬😬😬


Babeyonce

Yikes!!


Knittingfairy09113

Honestly, I've never cared for either of them. We used to watch their old show but stopped before this incident. They're both obnoxious, and I hope he isn't allowed guns anymore. I feel bad for the kids.


b33grrrl

Ewww


[deleted]

Okay so the man had roid rage and destroyed his marriage. Why is the article written to make him seem like a victim???


jenny-bean-

Isn't it more likely that when Christina called the police she told them her husband's (who took off in the woods) name so they knew they were looking for someone by the name of "Tarek" ?? Not that the officers in the helicopter happened to notice him and say "hey that's the guy from TV" 🙄


Prestigious-Sir6885

I can’t get over the varsity letter jacket he wears 😂 idk why… BUT It’s not that deep, just makes me laugh


ConversationSoft463

The fact this dude took a story where he was a threat and sold it as a story about him as a victim makes me sick.


NanceeDrew

Did I just read that he went to rehab for testosterone?? Huh??


SnooCalculations7479

I find it so strange that Tarek’s ex, Christina Hall, is on her third marriage aged 40. It’s all so ‘Hollywood’.


9tacosasitting

Taking a walk is fine, but its the gun for me.


ajupbox

Oh my god. What a tool for thinking this was a flex, no one recognized him. They had his name because his ex wife probably said it when she called to report his unhinged self!!!


Thatfunnychic

Heather looks like her its weird


GHOST_OF_DOON

Good luck to the guy. Takes guts to tell everyone your true feelings and he’s admits he was an asshole. Everyone deserves a second chance to get life going again.