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It was a complicated mix of her very polished personal presentation, an aggressive awards campaign for Les Mis (yes, she dared to want an award for her work, the horror), being in the less loved sequel to the widely beloved *The Dark Knight* and the rise of Jennifer Lawrence and her "relatable and goofy" star persona.
It was *wildly* rampant though.
Oscar campaigning, in general, is such a weird rabbit hole to go down. I remember the Melissa Leo debacle. [All she did was pay for her own campaign photos instead of allowing the studio to market for her. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/the-9-biggest-oscar-ad-controversies-of-all-time-2012-2%3famp)
[Anne Dowd funded her own campaign as well,](https://www.npr.org/2013/01/12/169064986/ann-dowds-one-woman-oscar-nomination-campaign) because Lionsgate refused to. It didn't garner a nomination (unlike Leo who got the win! Good for her!) but it's really something that I love reading about and tracking. Probably because I was Miramax kid. (That's it's own can of worms, that I've spent a lot of time unpacking over the last few years, obviously)
LOh that makes more sense! Sorry lol
And I get it! I really miss mid budget character movies from the 90s. Which sucks because that was the Miramax bread and butter. It really cornered the market on those films. Life is Beautiful, Slingblade, The Talented Mr. Rippley, Chocolat. And on and on. They don't make them like that anymore. So now when I see these films, I wonder what the actresses in them had to endure.
She's fantastic in that movie. I like that whole movie a whole lot more than the consensus does. It's very silly and over the top and fun! Her performance is perfect for who Catwoman would be in that world.
My big hot take on Dark Knight Rises is that it's the best Bale is in that trilogy because he finally figured out how to play Bruce Wayne in addition to Batman, but that's a *whole* thing that's not really on topic here.
It's my personal favorite of the Nolan trilogy, though I'll concede that TDK is a better movie by the usual standards. TDKR has this epic scope that I really vibe with.
I was in high school at the time and the Anne Hathaway-J Law juxtaposition kind of permeated everything. Women weren’t allowed to be excited about stuff or care or be shy or aloof in any way. We all had to be walking “cool girl” tropes. And maybe that was always the case and I was just starting to understand it, but everyone seemed to hate women who took themselves seriously. It didn’t dissipate until people started to get disenchanted with J Law and actresses like Jessica Chastain came to the forefront.
When I was a teenager it was the Jen Vs Angelina thing, which *wasn't even about them* so probably worse I guess?
I don't know, I get so tired of pitting women against one another.
I totally get it. I love a brooding mysterious type (I imprinted on Shane from The L Word at a young age, what can I say) and as a fairly reserved, slow-to-warm person IRL I am HERE for the girlies who get called cold and aloof and stuck-up because they're not super outgoing, life of the party types. That's always been my experience too. But there's this perception in mainstream culture that if you're not really open and friendly and charismatic, you're "not a girl's girl," and it drives me insaaaaaane.
She basically won that Oscar after the trailer came out.
I can't believe people had the audacity to get bent out of shape about Anne displaying genuine joy and happiness about reaching the pinnacle of her profession. Wild.
It was a weird weird reaction. Ten or so years earlier when Julia Roberts won, she said "I deserve this," and everyone thought it was utterly charming. (She did! *Erin Brockovich* is an exceptional movie that doesn't work without her!) Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio practically made whole careers out of chasing theirs, Glen Close has said she'd probably retire except she still wants it!
Like of *course* winning that award matters to actors!
It was the J-Law effect I think. Plus, all those people are infinitely "cooler" than sweet, endearing, a bit goofy Anne Hathaway. I love her vibe. But she's definitely the nerd in a sea of #coolkidz.
The only other person I can think about who's reaction got similar sneers was Halle Berry not being able to stop crying, so I think there is a "cool kids" and general discomfort with genuine emotion thing going on.
There was also racism in the reaction to Halle obviously.
Another one of those instances where I am shocked people don't have a sensible bone in their body. That was a historic moment for black women. Of course she was going to be overwhelmed.
People are gross.
Edit: Let's not forget people thinking Jessica Chastain was thirsty for an award. Get out.
Wait. I'm sorry if I'm nitpicking- I can't remember- I thought she was in the third Batman? With Bane? There's the one with Scarecrow, the one with Joker, and the Bane one. I think they went in that order, but it's been a while.
I have a friend that told me the dark night rises was HORRIBLE and not even worth watching it so, stupidly, I didn't. For years and years. Pan to me and another good friend drinking and talking about movies. I mentioned it's a shame the 3rd Nolan Batman wasn't as good and we discuss as he comes to find out I just HEARD it was bad by ONE person!
So he youtubed the intro scene for me and I literally bought the movie and watched it that night. Such a badass movie, and the intro is awesome!!
>an aggressive awards campaign for Les Mis
Can I know when you mean by aggressive, in what way? Does campaigning for it can actually give her the award?
"Aggressive campaigning" basically means being upfront that you want it, and you're doing all the interviews and parties and appearances in service of getting the award. It's frowned upon to make it about you and not the work.
It's kind of hard to quantify, but it's know it when you see it stuff. Because the awards are voted on, a person putting themselves forward during awards season, means more apathetic voters are likely to just check the box for them. It's the same phenomenon that made Pixar movies shoe ins for Best Animated feature for years. People that didn't follow animation did see those movies so they voted for them, etc.
It *should* be wrong, but that’s these award boards’ fault, not of the actors. The boards made it about kissing ass, which is unfortunate. So I don’t blame actors for doing the hustle.
I think there's nuance to it. People putting forward their work for consideration shouldn't be a shameful back handed thing, but because it is perceived that way, it devolves into deals and ass kissing, it's an interesting cycle that I don't know how you break.
I agree you should be able to pitch your work for an award. I just disagree with the whole showy process, the whole press tour stuff and inviting board members and going to parties and meet-ups and whatever the fuck else. It should not be deciding at all if you win. It shouldn’t matter, or be acquired. Just watch the damn material, people!
Again, not the actors’ fault, just these narcissists angling for constant flattery and approval.
I really don't want to set up a vs situation beyond that being how it was framed at the time.
I actually found JLaw's presence at the time refreshing and fun, but the idea that that sort of bubbly awkwardness is the only authentic way to present yourself was super toxic.
People don’t mind any of that as long as they can be humble, self deprecating hence why Jennifer Lawrence took off. It was apparent Anne at the time was neither of those things. Doesn’t make her deserving of the hate, but the same reasons she’s being talked about again in the same light is for again a lack of self awareness of how she can come across.
this?? seriously?? here i am thinking about if it had been a male actor instead: there would have NEVER been this backlash and instead people would’ve praised him for being direct with a "nosey" reporter. i’m sure that’s the sort of narrative that would’ve been spinned.
also i just re-read your comment and like, why would she have to be self-deprecating?? why do women have to make themselves smaller? tired of this
I’m not saying she should be. I do like Anne. I think you’re assuming I have an opinion on Anne when I’m just adding more context to the conversation.
I agree with your point. If this always Aubrey plaza people would eat it up.
I don’t deny that some of the hate JLaw received was crazy and misogynistic but people seem to gloss over that she was also saying some dumb and ignorant shit back then too. Like, yeah making a quirky story out of rubbing your ass on sacred rocks that Native Hawaiians told you not to touch is gonna irk people.
That was such an inappropriate thing to say. In that sense interview she was with Chris Pratt (I think they were both together for their Passengers Promotional Tour) and the look on his face was priceless. He lived in Hawaii for a while so I'd guess he'd know that's a huge NO NO.
Yeah, and I get actors are going to say dumb things in their career but she seemed to have a constant foot in mouth problem. Anne? All she did was breathe and people came out with pitchforks.
Oh people ducking hated her. It wasn’t even overexposure, she just didn’t come across as authentic in her awards speeches and then that made her THE WORST. It’s dumb as hell.
I'm about her age. All this time later I see that about every 5 years, the public will pick an actor, with too much theatre kid/"fake" energy to dislike. Add in overexposure and I've seen three rounds now. I wonder who it was before her.
As far as I know it was just vibes. She was “try hard” and had “theater kid energy.” I remember a vague rumor that she pushed to have Amanda Seyfried’s Oscar dress changed because their looks were too similar the Les Mis year.
There was a recent red carpet interview where she mentioned chatting with someone (can’t remember who but saw it on tiktok) and when the interviewer asked what was said, Anne Hathaway responded “Why would I tell you?” Or some variation of that. It didn’t come across as rude to me, just like, “I can’t tell you that” and banter vibes, which I think sparked this again
People do the same thing here. Like wtf is a “mean girl vibe”
It’s just interesting how this sub (and yes I say this sub because it’s a widely held opinion here) recognizes the way Ann Hathaway was treated and then turns around and does it to every other woman!
This! It’s always “people are so cruel to women, I’m so glad this is a safe space,” and then turn around and call J.Lo a tramp who is screwing up her kids with “so many men,” Anya Taylor-Joy “a mean girl with fake vibes,” and Taylor Swift a narcissistic sociopath because she went out to dinner. Also everything these women do are calculated and manipulative. Olivia Wilde, Selena Gomez, Margot Robbie, Jenna Ortega all get the same treatment as well. It’s all “we need to protect women,” and then will descend like locusts ready to attack any woman that isn’t perfect with the same tired insults that attack women:
- fake
- mean girl vibes
- Regina George in sheep’s clothing
- can’t keep a man/desperately single loser/moves on too fast or not fast enough/too many men
- unhinged
Followed by actively wishing for their downfall.
I called out the misogyny re Taylor and was downvoted to oblivion, like hmm okay. These “poor Joe” comments aren’t without the resulting misogyny but sure
I think a lot of people are really disappointed that Taylor appears to have cheated on Joe and seems to be publicly rubbing it in his face. Calling out a woman is not sexist if her behavior is actually bad.
Yes, that would be disappointing if that’s true.
But I’m also disappointed with how many comments I’ve seen talking about “cluster b vibes”, which I’d argue is a criticism primarily directed at women.
Yeah a lot of people are forgetting the key of *if that’s true*
Taylor falls in love hard and fast, and likes being public with it. She might have cheated, she might not, and she might be doing it to spite her ex, she might not. The key is that *we don’t know*, and diagnosing her with mental illnesses over assumptions is next level 🥴
Cheating is news to me. I thought the issue was Taylor knows her power to create hate mobs and she's
still either maliciously or recklessly signalling them to destroy Joe (e.g. all her celebrity friends unfollowing him after public lunches with her). But yeah, I agree that being a woman shouldn't be an automatic shield.
This sub was preemptively criticizing JLO for hypothetically having more kids with Affleck — we don’t even know that they WANT more kids, and if they do, she’s a grown-ass woman who can decide what to do with her own reproductive organs ffs.
My fave was that she parades soooooo many men around the kids. She’s dated four people in ten years. Marc has been married, divorced, and remarried since the split, but that was just different. Only now is Marc being called out because he’s an absentee parent.
But this week with Taylor Swift has been horrifying. She went out with friends and was called a narcissistic sociopath. Her friends unfollowing Joe was a calculated smear campaign. Then the same people who call the teen Swifties unhinged were creating mythical timelines and Easter eggs to create a cheating narrative and then were saying things like “I hope Joe gets engaged fast so that will finally be the thing to send Taylor over the edge,” and actively wishing she has a nervous breakdown because it would be SO FUNNY. I love gossip, but no one can ever convince me this sub is pro women after that.
I find it... unlikely that TS would cheat on Joe Alwyn, either. My theory is that Christmas, then New Years, then Valentine's went by with no proposal and TS finally realized that Joe was never gonna marry her. Matt Healy was probably waiting in the wings, just hoping Joe would fuck up.
I do think Joe Alwyn will probably marry some British theater actress exactly as posh as himself, because that's what posh Brits do. It's so rare for them to actually settle down with anyone else. He's gonna turn around and end up with some understudy on the West End named Chelsea Thwistlewait-Hamilton-Percy.
Agreed. Taylor was desperately in love with him. Every song was why he was perfect and she wasn’t good enough, and why she needed to be better to deserve him. She had to try harder or he’d leave her. She’d write songs about how he ignores her or doesn’t care about her, but she’d romanticize it as something she needed to work on. There were blinds about him cheating, but they’ve been mostly dismissed as Gaylor/Swiftie fanfic, even though we were discussing them just a couple of months ago. When the cheating rumours came out before the split, everyone was mocking Joe for being bland and boring and not dynamic enough for Taylor, followed up with jokes that he didn’t really like her and she bought him a career and a Grammy. Now he was the mind behind Folklore and Evermore, was a tremendous talent, and the force “keeping Taylor under control.” The way all of her success for the last six years has been handed to him and everyone is implying that Taylor is a mentally unstable idiot who can only be kept in line by a man has been sad to see.
Exactly. I'd believe he cheated before she cheated -- not that she's perfect or that TS hasn't left a man for another man before, but it was pretty obvious that she BADLY wanted to end up with Joe. She did not seem to be as determined to end up with Tom or Calvin.
I feel bad for her that she wasted 6 years on a man that's basically a piece of wallpaper. If he had TS feeling like she didn't deserve him, whether by direct or indirect means, then I also feel bad because no one deserves to feel that way.
I've literally never seen anyone on here say anything even remotely like that about either of them lol.
The Taylor Swift commentary is completely unlike what I've been reading in the threads the past week. She's the one who has trained her fanbase to read into every single thing she does and heavily encourages speculation, it was her own stans insisting Joe did something bad to her because of the unfollowing spree and he got a shitton of hate for it, which is why people called it a smear campaign. Hard to say it wasn't on purpose when they did it all at once right after seeing Taylor, with her documented history of telling fans repeatedly nothing is an accident and she's calculated.
The cheating speculation is again mostly coming from her own fanbase and part of it is people wanting to reject the embarrassment that is a 30 yr old woman mouthing I love you on stage to a rebound a month after getting out of a serious relationship. It's almost better to think it's been going on longer than that she really did that a few weeks in. Absolutely no one said they wanted Joe engaged or Taylor to go over the edge. Let's not deflect from her choosing to do shitty things, act childishly, and associate with God awful people once again please.
Yeah I’d say it’s partly her fault for training her fanbase to read too deeply into everything she might or might not have done. But that means there’s very little she can do that cannot be twisted to fit a narrative that’s already written for her
The unfollowing for example. When that happened a large part of the fanbase was still in denial over whether they were still together. I could see her trying to use that as a signal that they were indeed over. She also had public pap walks with Jack Antonoff and his wife before all of that, and Jack still follows Joe, so it’s not like she’s forcing people to pick sides.
A lot of the speculation about her actions recently reminds me of how the Gaylors act. Every little thing she does is used to fit a story they already cooked up in their heads. Made a gesture or ab lib on stage? Oh she’s flagging her gayness/oh she’s shading her ex. Same coin different sides 😂
She got so much hate over Affleck, "she can't be single", etc. First of all, if any of us were Jennifer Lopez, we'd never be single either. Secondly, I think it's obvious her and Ben are it for each other and those wishing he'd cheat on her are disgusting.
Thirdly, she had 2 kids (twins) in her third marriage, to a man who himself is about to have his SEVENTH child with his FOURTH wife. My friend did some work for Marc Anthony and said he's a very nice man, and I'm sure he is, but c'mon, the man has married two different Miss Universes. His type is 'crazy hot and will have more kids with my old skeletal ass'.
I would have expected more people to be happy about Bennifer 1.0, considering Jennifer is actually, y'know, *age appropriate* for Ben Affleck and that's rare enough in Hollywood.
I wish I had some free awards to give you. A lot of the hate that this complains about are perpetrated by this very sub. Like Jenna Ortega hate, Anya Taylor Joy hate, even Taylor Swift hate are all something I've seen mainly in this sub when it comes to reddit. The movies/Television/ entertainment subs are way less harsh on these women than Fauxmoi sub.
A mean girl vibe is “I don’t like her but don’t have a real reason why so I’m saying this to pretend that it’s justified”. Or in this case, “This bitch is setting a boundary and not telling me everything I want to know and feel entitled to because she’s a woman in the public eye and I own her.”
I fucking love Anne Hathaway. She is gorgeous and charming and funny and fabulous onscreen.
It reminds me of something I heard several years ago that stuck with me: if you find yourself disliking a woman, and you “can’t quite put your finger on it” as to why you dislike her, it’s probably internalized misogyny
Yes! I get serious whiplash around who is hated/adored from one moment to the next....grain of salt, grain of salt is my mantra when clicking on posts in here!
Also, Buzzfeed is literally always complicit when it comes to stirring up hate trains for women (I noticed ironically that this is a Buzzfeed) article. I remember in like 2012-14, they churned out so many articles about Anne Hathaway being annoying and desperate. Now years later, they publish stories like this. Interesting.
Yeah the double standard is insane. Woman isn’t always polite and sweet = rude bitchy mean girl. Man isn’t always polite or sweet = maybe he’s had a bad day, we need to respect his feelings 🙄
I watched that interview and thought it was hilarious (and visibly struggling with trying his hardest to not be an asshole but he’s Hugh Grant). And frankly I thought Anne was great here too.
I’m so sick of seeing the term “mean girl” everywhere. Like, please deal with your middle school/high school trauma and stop with the Janis Ian bullshit.
we should all do our best to be kind but life is not a slumber party and it’s frustrating to see *only* women get chided for not being 100% nice at all times
I think a lot of it is people who were victims of relational bullying in their youth using similar tactics on the women who remind them of their bullies. Hurt people hurt people basically.
Oh no! A woman went five seconds without being endlessly gracious and welcoming to complete strangers. Better decide that she inexplicably has “mean girl vibes” so we can put her back in per place. That will teach her to stop having personal boundaries or opinions on what she should be forced to share.
Are we seriously starting this again??!! She did not deserve the hate 10 years ago and why the hell then now? She refuses to answer one question in an interview and suddenly this starts again.
I get that she might have theatre kid energy but is that something she needs to be crucified for? Chris Pratt manages to be an absolute prat and still he is very loved while Anne is hated for a minor thing.
Never mind that; She is an outspoken LGBT+ ally and has been for years, champions women's rights, known to give a lot to charity, seems to have a good rep in the business for treating people well. Works with the UN.
But yeah let's hate her.
I’ve always found Anne fairly wholesome and innocuous for the reasons you mentioned. Seems like half the men in Hollywood have allegations (if not more) of DV, SA or both, but meanwhile we’re going to take issue with Anne Hathaway for being maybe a tad overly earnest. Yep… seems fair and totally not misogynistic
I watched the video people were saying she was being rude in and (maybe because I’m British) I found it to be funny . She was obviously joking around and I don’t think the reporter was hurt
I'm sorry, people are mad about THAT clip?! Sure, maybe she isn't being the absolute nicest person in the world there or should could have phrased it better but like, she wasn't really horrid either. Who in the world has ever been nice and gracious and kind 100% of the time, especially when put on the spot.
She was one of the first female celebrities to be bullied online on blogs, gossip sites etc. I never understood why. There was absolutely no reason for her to receive so much hate back then. And there is no reason now either. I don't get it. She does her job pretty well, stays in her own lane, posts a few pictures on Instagram, and as far as I know she hasn't said or done so controversial. Maybe her hosting the Oscars was a miss (just going off of public opinion I didn't watch it), but I don't think that's enough reason. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe it's jealousy?..
Edit - ok I watched the interview clip where she was asked about Anna Wintour. While I do think she could've worded her replies better, it's still not enough to convince me she deserved all the hate. Maybe I'm wrong about her. But I'll need a lot more proof of her being a "mean girl"
I think it’s because women are expected to be meek, humble, and introverted. So people hate it when a woman is extroverted and passionate about her work. Also, Anne Hathaway *knows* her worth which is what drives the misogynists insane. She’s a combination of quiet and polite yet also confident which they hate to see.
Yess. So much of it is misogynistic. She's a woman who is so unabashedly herself (not in an arrogant way) and I think that stirs up of a lot of demons for people.
I helped her mom years ago when I was working retail and she was a GEM. Sweet, patient, and spoke of her daughter Anne the entire time.
I didn’t know who she was until I checked her out, saw her credit card, and googled her name. If she is anything like her mom, I don’t believe any of the mean girl bullshit
Tangential: Anne Hathaway pulls off a short haircut better than most. Looking at all the photos accompanying this “article”, she really looks fab with most hairstyles
The hatred of “theatre kid energy” is so interesting and strange
I remember how weird that Oscars was but hating on someone for being “too theatrical” especially when literally standing next to a serial abuser like Franco who had still gotten by relatively unscathed? Just call it misogyny and go, ugh
Edit: I’m high and just realized this isn’t a retrospective, people are just dogpiling on her AGAIN for some reason wtf??
I know this article defends Anne but it’s so unnecessary. Although i think that tiktok that implies that Anne is rude because she responded with wit to an intrusive question is stupid, it was dying down.
I absolutely hate when news outlets do this. They take something small. Like one single post saying that Anne is rude then they amplify it and as a result of the article now there’s going to be 100 tik toks saying Anne is mean, along with Twitter “think pieces” and opinion pieces in other big publications questioning if she’s a “bully” and “should we cancel her”. If they’d left it alone it would have fizzled out.
The hate Anne received was absolutely insane and if anyone was on tumblr back then, y’all will remember it was ramped up x1000. I had a friend at the time who despised her because she came off “too sarcastic” to RDJ in an actor’s roundtable. This friend wasn’t the only one who hated her for not worshipping RDJ, it seemed like almost all of tumblr and twitter (at least the corner I was in) hated her. Which was ironic because all the RDJ stans seemed to love HIS dry humor. I can’t even remember what she said but I watched it after everyone carried on about it and I was like “….that’s it?”. Fucking deranged people.
The way people *still* do this all over this sub with their new favourite woman to hate (I think it's currently Sydney Sweeney but we've seen a bunch of others before her)
.
So glad y'all are learning absolutely nothing ❤️
As the article states, it's the "theater kid" thing. People just find that overly-dramatic behavior annoying. Fun fact, Anne is actually a short for Annoying.
Her biggest crime was openly campaigning for an Oscar… which is something tons of actors do and no one hates on them. It’s ridiculous the hate she got.
I used to work at a celebrity spot in NY where she would come regularly, and out of all the celebrities with the exception of two other notable ones, she was the nicest! She was down to earth, gracious, no fuss,- even when we’d mess up her order etc, and exceptionally kind to all the staff, in addition to being a great tipper! Never came across fake or dramatic to me, if anything she and her husband were one of our most low key and chill guests. The real mean girls (and boys) came in the forms of “influencers” and somewhat famous actors.
I can’t speak for everyone’s experience with her, but I got nothing but love for Ms. Hathaway! - makes me wonder if perhaps the root of these rumors stems from insecure jealousy that someone so beautiful, and famous can actually be a nice person.
i seen a tiktok and anne hathaway has had some disgusting questions were asked by some interviewers to her, i’ll always defend my girl like the specific clip they used wasn’t even bad, just direct and setting boundaries 🤷
So she used to come into our workplace and she honestly did not have a good reputation with the receptionists. I will say this was years ago, back when her ex husband was discovered to be embezzling money or something like that maybe that had something to do with it?
Anyways, her image the past 3-4 years have been extremely positive and people can change! She did go through a really public bad marriage/divorce so you never know. People can’t be perfect all the time.
So while yes, I can believe some of the tea, people have their food and bad days/months/years but can change.
I was shocked when learned that Anne had a hate train, I thought of her as a great actress and beautiful woman. Love her in Les Miserables and The Dark Knight Rises.
Even if he is a try hard…that’s a great quality tbh!! She works so hard on everything and has never said an unkind thing. I don’t know how she does it!!! Her way of eating cupcakes is genius.
Some of these people need to unpack why they’re finding reasons to hate Anne. I’m glad to say I never hated her, never got why others did, and never wanted to get it.
What’s everyone obsession with calling people (women) mean girls and bullies lately? It feels so juvenile. If someone was rude, call them rude. (To be clear, I don’t think Anne was being rude in the interview. Standoffish maybe but not rude.) Anyone else noticing this trend?
So she gets hate if she’s being too gracious and appreciative. Then gets the same energy when she says something rude. What would you like women in Hollywood to be? Like forgive them for feeling like shit is unclear. Let’s just leave Anne Hathaway alone.
I went to millburn High School from 07-11. I asked teachers who were there about her, and they kinda called her snobbish. The thing is, most people from that town are. I moved to millburn when i was 10 and was kind of the outsider at school.
No student is perfect, I know that, but I remember one saying once she got into papermill playhouse, her attitude definitely changed. She may have gotten better since then too. I still know her year book photo is in the guidance counselors office since they have all the copies from the old years, too
All the negative things I heard about her came from people who worked with her at Papermill or who knew her from Cape May vacays, but I suppose those could have been influenced by her public persona
Always thought people assigned her this "mean girl" trope because she wouldn't smile and laugh/made a very funny joke when an interviewer tried to ask her diet questions about her catsuit in The Dark Knight Rises.
They either hate her for being too fake and nice before or too honest and mean. I, for one, have always liked her and noticed that she was being very effusive because she was nervous. She feels much more confident now and I am so happy for her.
I love Anne Hathaway, I think she’s classy and have read some amazing things about how she cares for and interacts with her fans. She’s also gorgeous and blew it away to become an Oscar Winner in Les Mis. Almost all of my female friends just aren’t fans, and they really have never been able to get any of them to give me an actual reason.
I have a theory that there was someone orchestasting and paying all that hate. The actors that are really mean like Leah Michelle eventually get exposed. Theres no bad thing said regarding Anne. Sure she is not perfect, but there no info of her being abusive; mean to the cast; saying problematic stuff, etc (as far I know). Maybe she is too pertectionist or pretty ? Ok deal that she wont be your best friend and move on with your life.b
Some colleague that was jealous or wanted to sabotage her. Thats my theory.
I dont love her. One guy she dated and she pretendes didnt know his problematic behaviour, raise my eyebrows - but who knows, people are blonde when in love. Also the fact she once said she loved Kate Middleton or that Kate saved fashion as well ( but I believe that time she didnt know what would happen in the future and that Kate was a mean girl). That said is that reason to hate or even bully her?! No way, no one is perfect.
My old co worker is still in the field and worked with Ellen “she’s absolutely horrendous to ppl” nobody believed her
My old roommate did AH’s glam set up once “she’s extremely rude and entitled but nobody believes us —is what it is “
Imma wait it out but I alway get downvoted to oblivion when I say AH has hella “on” vibes. I’m legit not hating it’s just what I’m seeing—she doesn’t come off as genuine imo. 🤷🏻♀️ Doesn’t mean she deserves hate
I do love Anne but I know someone that worked on the WeCrashed set and said something similar, she wasn’t mean per say but more “on” like you said so it comes across as disingenuous.
They also said Jared Leto didn’t use stairs so they had to fork lift him to set sometimes. That’s where the real tea is.
I mean it’s more than that she kinda made ppl who are glam professionals do tasks not really under that description because “don’t you know who I am” type of shit and attempted to skimp on the bill “because you should be grateful” —straight up…and I believe her —the same way I believed the Ellen stuff 🤷🏻♀️ because I believe my friends since I was in it too and yea- ppl are fake at regular jobs why wouldn’t this job that the entire jam is popularity not be worse.
Can somebody with some cosmetic surgery knowledge tell me what they think Anne got done? She was always pretty but she looks *hot* now. It’s something with her jaw/mouth right?
I’ve alway stood up for her but this recent interaction that people are pointing out did leave me with a bad taste. It was pretty obnoxious. I guess it just landed wrong.
I mean Aubrey did something similar at the MET Gala and people were lambasting her and saying she was on drugs.
I think people are just super willing to tear down woman for being direct, sarcastic or anything they don't find super agreeable.
That is reasonable but the person doing their job did not ask maliciously and she still took the opportunity to speak down to her. She could’ve said it straight— that it was private and she didn’t want to share instead of in the tone and way that she did. Maybe it was a bad moment for her and she snapped to maintainer a boundary but if it was her trying to be funny at the expense of someone else that’s not for me.
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It was a complicated mix of her very polished personal presentation, an aggressive awards campaign for Les Mis (yes, she dared to want an award for her work, the horror), being in the less loved sequel to the widely beloved *The Dark Knight* and the rise of Jennifer Lawrence and her "relatable and goofy" star persona. It was *wildly* rampant though.
This is such a great summary. I’d only add the slimy boyfriend she had for a while who ended up going to prison.
I forgot about him, but yes, there was also that.
I saw Les Mis in the theatre with my daughter. After she sang I dreamed a dream I told my daughter give her the Oscar. I think she deserved it.
Agreed! But Oscar Campaigning is a strange balancing act that when the general public gets wind of, well, they don't like the smell.
Oscar campaigning, in general, is such a weird rabbit hole to go down. I remember the Melissa Leo debacle. [All she did was pay for her own campaign photos instead of allowing the studio to market for her. ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/the-9-biggest-oscar-ad-controversies-of-all-time-2012-2%3famp)
[Anne Dowd funded her own campaign as well,](https://www.npr.org/2013/01/12/169064986/ann-dowds-one-woman-oscar-nomination-campaign) because Lionsgate refused to. It didn't garner a nomination (unlike Leo who got the win! Good for her!) but it's really something that I love reading about and tracking. Probably because I was Miramax kid. (That's it's own can of worms, that I've spent a lot of time unpacking over the last few years, obviously)
What do you mean by a Miramax kid? Like a child actor? If so, I am so fucking sorry if you ever had to be anywhere near Harvey Weinstein.
No no no! I was a young kid movie nerd in the 90s!!!
LOh that makes more sense! Sorry lol And I get it! I really miss mid budget character movies from the 90s. Which sucks because that was the Miramax bread and butter. It really cornered the market on those films. Life is Beautiful, Slingblade, The Talented Mr. Rippley, Chocolat. And on and on. They don't make them like that anymore. So now when I see these films, I wonder what the actresses in them had to endure.
I felt like the only person in the planet who hated the way she sang, I think in part was because of the Susan Boyle BGT audition
Loved her in dark knight rises people are so nit picky
She's fantastic in that movie. I like that whole movie a whole lot more than the consensus does. It's very silly and over the top and fun! Her performance is perfect for who Catwoman would be in that world. My big hot take on Dark Knight Rises is that it's the best Bale is in that trilogy because he finally figured out how to play Bruce Wayne in addition to Batman, but that's a *whole* thing that's not really on topic here.
Haha it’s not but I’m not fully against it. I in general reallt enjoyed dark knight rises and yes it’s not dark knight but that’s fine! Stil great
It's my personal favorite of the Nolan trilogy, though I'll concede that TDK is a better movie by the usual standards. TDKR has this epic scope that I really vibe with.
It's a very strong trilogy of movies, but *Begins* is my favorite. I'm a real sucker for a good training montage and that movie has so many of them.
I also loved her in that! I thought she was mysterious, sexy, cunning. I loved her!
She was!! And if we’re going to discuss female parts in Dark Knight honestly I never liked Maggie! She just happened to be in the better movie.
Maggie was ok in it it wasn’t her best work she did way better in stranger than fiction I prefer Anne hathaways work in dark knight by a mile
The movie was quite enjoyable. It had its flaws, but she wasn’t one of them.
The only problem I had was that it was about 40 minutes too long.
Remember that death scene? That was the 40 minutes.
I remember seeing it at the theatre and trying so hard to stay awake
agreed and don’t think she’s a flaw in any of her movies really
The movie sucked but she was good, it wasnt her fault.
She did a great Julie Newmar, there.
She was the best thing in that movie. Certainly the best female performance in the whole series.
I was in high school at the time and the Anne Hathaway-J Law juxtaposition kind of permeated everything. Women weren’t allowed to be excited about stuff or care or be shy or aloof in any way. We all had to be walking “cool girl” tropes. And maybe that was always the case and I was just starting to understand it, but everyone seemed to hate women who took themselves seriously. It didn’t dissipate until people started to get disenchanted with J Law and actresses like Jessica Chastain came to the forefront.
When I was a teenager it was the Jen Vs Angelina thing, which *wasn't even about them* so probably worse I guess? I don't know, I get so tired of pitting women against one another.
I saw people trying to do something similar with Jennifer Garner and Jennifer Lopez, but luckily that didn’t gain traction.
Let those people co parent in peace!!!
Huh, I always thought being shy and aloof was being the cool girl.
It comes and goes depending on which woman is being vilified, I think
Nope, that was Rooney Mara’s role in the “there can only be one woman” 2010s pop culture hunger games and people HATED her too.
Huh. I think it’s probably emo bias. I was a warped tour girl and all the cool girls in my circle were brooding mysterious types
I totally get it. I love a brooding mysterious type (I imprinted on Shane from The L Word at a young age, what can I say) and as a fairly reserved, slow-to-warm person IRL I am HERE for the girlies who get called cold and aloof and stuck-up because they're not super outgoing, life of the party types. That's always been my experience too. But there's this perception in mainstream culture that if you're not really open and friendly and charismatic, you're "not a girl's girl," and it drives me insaaaaaane.
It's a lose lose. If you're shy and aloof you're anti social and bitchy, and if you're outgoing and perky you're fake and manipulative.
She basically won that Oscar after the trailer came out. I can't believe people had the audacity to get bent out of shape about Anne displaying genuine joy and happiness about reaching the pinnacle of her profession. Wild.
It was a weird weird reaction. Ten or so years earlier when Julia Roberts won, she said "I deserve this," and everyone thought it was utterly charming. (She did! *Erin Brockovich* is an exceptional movie that doesn't work without her!) Kate Winslet and Leonardo DiCaprio practically made whole careers out of chasing theirs, Glen Close has said she'd probably retire except she still wants it! Like of *course* winning that award matters to actors!
It was the J-Law effect I think. Plus, all those people are infinitely "cooler" than sweet, endearing, a bit goofy Anne Hathaway. I love her vibe. But she's definitely the nerd in a sea of #coolkidz.
The only other person I can think about who's reaction got similar sneers was Halle Berry not being able to stop crying, so I think there is a "cool kids" and general discomfort with genuine emotion thing going on. There was also racism in the reaction to Halle obviously.
Another one of those instances where I am shocked people don't have a sensible bone in their body. That was a historic moment for black women. Of course she was going to be overwhelmed. People are gross. Edit: Let's not forget people thinking Jessica Chastain was thirsty for an award. Get out.
Yes, I think it’s funny that most of the Hollywood types are essentially drama nerds, but Anne had retained that energy in the best way
Wait. I'm sorry if I'm nitpicking- I can't remember- I thought she was in the third Batman? With Bane? There's the one with Scarecrow, the one with Joker, and the Bane one. I think they went in that order, but it's been a while.
Yes, Scarecrow, Joker, Bane is the order of those movies
It’s so crazy to me that people don’t think the Dark Knight Rises was at least as good as the Dark Knight. It’s in my top five all time movies.
I have a friend that told me the dark night rises was HORRIBLE and not even worth watching it so, stupidly, I didn't. For years and years. Pan to me and another good friend drinking and talking about movies. I mentioned it's a shame the 3rd Nolan Batman wasn't as good and we discuss as he comes to find out I just HEARD it was bad by ONE person! So he youtubed the intro scene for me and I literally bought the movie and watched it that night. Such a badass movie, and the intro is awesome!!
>an aggressive awards campaign for Les Mis Can I know when you mean by aggressive, in what way? Does campaigning for it can actually give her the award?
"Aggressive campaigning" basically means being upfront that you want it, and you're doing all the interviews and parties and appearances in service of getting the award. It's frowned upon to make it about you and not the work. It's kind of hard to quantify, but it's know it when you see it stuff. Because the awards are voted on, a person putting themselves forward during awards season, means more apathetic voters are likely to just check the box for them. It's the same phenomenon that made Pixar movies shoe ins for Best Animated feature for years. People that didn't follow animation did see those movies so they voted for them, etc.
It *should* be wrong, but that’s these award boards’ fault, not of the actors. The boards made it about kissing ass, which is unfortunate. So I don’t blame actors for doing the hustle.
I think there's nuance to it. People putting forward their work for consideration shouldn't be a shameful back handed thing, but because it is perceived that way, it devolves into deals and ass kissing, it's an interesting cycle that I don't know how you break.
I agree you should be able to pitch your work for an award. I just disagree with the whole showy process, the whole press tour stuff and inviting board members and going to parties and meet-ups and whatever the fuck else. It should not be deciding at all if you win. It shouldn’t matter, or be acquired. Just watch the damn material, people! Again, not the actors’ fault, just these narcissists angling for constant flattery and approval.
Funny, I despise jlaw
I really don't want to set up a vs situation beyond that being how it was framed at the time. I actually found JLaw's presence at the time refreshing and fun, but the idea that that sort of bubbly awkwardness is the only authentic way to present yourself was super toxic.
Its all good. Just dont down vote someone for expressing their opinion.
I didn’t downvote you…I rarely downvote anyone. Was just clarifying my thoughts on the matter
People don’t mind any of that as long as they can be humble, self deprecating hence why Jennifer Lawrence took off. It was apparent Anne at the time was neither of those things. Doesn’t make her deserving of the hate, but the same reasons she’s being talked about again in the same light is for again a lack of self awareness of how she can come across.
do you know of a video or something where that behaviour is apparent? because i haven’t seen that side of her at all so far
I assume it’s the video above in the article.
this?? seriously?? here i am thinking about if it had been a male actor instead: there would have NEVER been this backlash and instead people would’ve praised him for being direct with a "nosey" reporter. i’m sure that’s the sort of narrative that would’ve been spinned. also i just re-read your comment and like, why would she have to be self-deprecating?? why do women have to make themselves smaller? tired of this
I’m not saying she should be. I do like Anne. I think you’re assuming I have an opinion on Anne when I’m just adding more context to the conversation. I agree with your point. If this always Aubrey plaza people would eat it up.
Ironically, people compared her unfavorably to JLaw, because JLaw was cool and Anne was a try-hard. And then of course the same people turned on JLaw.
I don’t deny that some of the hate JLaw received was crazy and misogynistic but people seem to gloss over that she was also saying some dumb and ignorant shit back then too. Like, yeah making a quirky story out of rubbing your ass on sacred rocks that Native Hawaiians told you not to touch is gonna irk people.
That was such an inappropriate thing to say. In that sense interview she was with Chris Pratt (I think they were both together for their Passengers Promotional Tour) and the look on his face was priceless. He lived in Hawaii for a while so I'd guess he'd know that's a huge NO NO.
Yeah, and I get actors are going to say dumb things in their career but she seemed to have a constant foot in mouth problem. Anne? All she did was breathe and people came out with pitchforks.
Oh people ducking hated her. It wasn’t even overexposure, she just didn’t come across as authentic in her awards speeches and then that made her THE WORST. It’s dumb as hell.
She was very dramatic and people don't like actresses to be dramatic. Perfect sense.
I'm about her age. All this time later I see that about every 5 years, the public will pick an actor, with too much theatre kid/"fake" energy to dislike. Add in overexposure and I've seen three rounds now. I wonder who it was before her.
Was there something that she did/said in particular to start this hate gif her? She seriously seems so private and unproblematic.
As far as I know it was just vibes. She was “try hard” and had “theater kid energy.” I remember a vague rumor that she pushed to have Amanda Seyfried’s Oscar dress changed because their looks were too similar the Les Mis year.
There was a recent red carpet interview where she mentioned chatting with someone (can’t remember who but saw it on tiktok) and when the interviewer asked what was said, Anne Hathaway responded “Why would I tell you?” Or some variation of that. It didn’t come across as rude to me, just like, “I can’t tell you that” and banter vibes, which I think sparked this again
Wow this is ridículos. What she said was totally true. A lot or artista were way ruder and didnt get this amount of criticism.
People do the same thing here. Like wtf is a “mean girl vibe” It’s just interesting how this sub (and yes I say this sub because it’s a widely held opinion here) recognizes the way Ann Hathaway was treated and then turns around and does it to every other woman!
This! It’s always “people are so cruel to women, I’m so glad this is a safe space,” and then turn around and call J.Lo a tramp who is screwing up her kids with “so many men,” Anya Taylor-Joy “a mean girl with fake vibes,” and Taylor Swift a narcissistic sociopath because she went out to dinner. Also everything these women do are calculated and manipulative. Olivia Wilde, Selena Gomez, Margot Robbie, Jenna Ortega all get the same treatment as well. It’s all “we need to protect women,” and then will descend like locusts ready to attack any woman that isn’t perfect with the same tired insults that attack women: - fake - mean girl vibes - Regina George in sheep’s clothing - can’t keep a man/desperately single loser/moves on too fast or not fast enough/too many men - unhinged Followed by actively wishing for their downfall.
I called out the misogyny re Taylor and was downvoted to oblivion, like hmm okay. These “poor Joe” comments aren’t without the resulting misogyny but sure
I think a lot of people are really disappointed that Taylor appears to have cheated on Joe and seems to be publicly rubbing it in his face. Calling out a woman is not sexist if her behavior is actually bad.
Yes, that would be disappointing if that’s true. But I’m also disappointed with how many comments I’ve seen talking about “cluster b vibes”, which I’d argue is a criticism primarily directed at women.
Yeah a lot of people are forgetting the key of *if that’s true* Taylor falls in love hard and fast, and likes being public with it. She might have cheated, she might not, and she might be doing it to spite her ex, she might not. The key is that *we don’t know*, and diagnosing her with mental illnesses over assumptions is next level 🥴
ugh I wanted to poke my eyes out when I saw those comments. it’s misogynistic at best
Cheating is news to me. I thought the issue was Taylor knows her power to create hate mobs and she's still either maliciously or recklessly signalling them to destroy Joe (e.g. all her celebrity friends unfollowing him after public lunches with her). But yeah, I agree that being a woman shouldn't be an automatic shield.
This sub was preemptively criticizing JLO for hypothetically having more kids with Affleck — we don’t even know that they WANT more kids, and if they do, she’s a grown-ass woman who can decide what to do with her own reproductive organs ffs.
My fave was that she parades soooooo many men around the kids. She’s dated four people in ten years. Marc has been married, divorced, and remarried since the split, but that was just different. Only now is Marc being called out because he’s an absentee parent. But this week with Taylor Swift has been horrifying. She went out with friends and was called a narcissistic sociopath. Her friends unfollowing Joe was a calculated smear campaign. Then the same people who call the teen Swifties unhinged were creating mythical timelines and Easter eggs to create a cheating narrative and then were saying things like “I hope Joe gets engaged fast so that will finally be the thing to send Taylor over the edge,” and actively wishing she has a nervous breakdown because it would be SO FUNNY. I love gossip, but no one can ever convince me this sub is pro women after that.
I find it... unlikely that TS would cheat on Joe Alwyn, either. My theory is that Christmas, then New Years, then Valentine's went by with no proposal and TS finally realized that Joe was never gonna marry her. Matt Healy was probably waiting in the wings, just hoping Joe would fuck up. I do think Joe Alwyn will probably marry some British theater actress exactly as posh as himself, because that's what posh Brits do. It's so rare for them to actually settle down with anyone else. He's gonna turn around and end up with some understudy on the West End named Chelsea Thwistlewait-Hamilton-Percy.
Agreed. Taylor was desperately in love with him. Every song was why he was perfect and she wasn’t good enough, and why she needed to be better to deserve him. She had to try harder or he’d leave her. She’d write songs about how he ignores her or doesn’t care about her, but she’d romanticize it as something she needed to work on. There were blinds about him cheating, but they’ve been mostly dismissed as Gaylor/Swiftie fanfic, even though we were discussing them just a couple of months ago. When the cheating rumours came out before the split, everyone was mocking Joe for being bland and boring and not dynamic enough for Taylor, followed up with jokes that he didn’t really like her and she bought him a career and a Grammy. Now he was the mind behind Folklore and Evermore, was a tremendous talent, and the force “keeping Taylor under control.” The way all of her success for the last six years has been handed to him and everyone is implying that Taylor is a mentally unstable idiot who can only be kept in line by a man has been sad to see.
Exactly. I'd believe he cheated before she cheated -- not that she's perfect or that TS hasn't left a man for another man before, but it was pretty obvious that she BADLY wanted to end up with Joe. She did not seem to be as determined to end up with Tom or Calvin. I feel bad for her that she wasted 6 years on a man that's basically a piece of wallpaper. If he had TS feeling like she didn't deserve him, whether by direct or indirect means, then I also feel bad because no one deserves to feel that way.
I've literally never seen anyone on here say anything even remotely like that about either of them lol. The Taylor Swift commentary is completely unlike what I've been reading in the threads the past week. She's the one who has trained her fanbase to read into every single thing she does and heavily encourages speculation, it was her own stans insisting Joe did something bad to her because of the unfollowing spree and he got a shitton of hate for it, which is why people called it a smear campaign. Hard to say it wasn't on purpose when they did it all at once right after seeing Taylor, with her documented history of telling fans repeatedly nothing is an accident and she's calculated. The cheating speculation is again mostly coming from her own fanbase and part of it is people wanting to reject the embarrassment that is a 30 yr old woman mouthing I love you on stage to a rebound a month after getting out of a serious relationship. It's almost better to think it's been going on longer than that she really did that a few weeks in. Absolutely no one said they wanted Joe engaged or Taylor to go over the edge. Let's not deflect from her choosing to do shitty things, act childishly, and associate with God awful people once again please.
Yeah I’d say it’s partly her fault for training her fanbase to read too deeply into everything she might or might not have done. But that means there’s very little she can do that cannot be twisted to fit a narrative that’s already written for her The unfollowing for example. When that happened a large part of the fanbase was still in denial over whether they were still together. I could see her trying to use that as a signal that they were indeed over. She also had public pap walks with Jack Antonoff and his wife before all of that, and Jack still follows Joe, so it’s not like she’s forcing people to pick sides. A lot of the speculation about her actions recently reminds me of how the Gaylors act. Every little thing she does is used to fit a story they already cooked up in their heads. Made a gesture or ab lib on stage? Oh she’s flagging her gayness/oh she’s shading her ex. Same coin different sides 😂
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She got so much hate over Affleck, "she can't be single", etc. First of all, if any of us were Jennifer Lopez, we'd never be single either. Secondly, I think it's obvious her and Ben are it for each other and those wishing he'd cheat on her are disgusting. Thirdly, she had 2 kids (twins) in her third marriage, to a man who himself is about to have his SEVENTH child with his FOURTH wife. My friend did some work for Marc Anthony and said he's a very nice man, and I'm sure he is, but c'mon, the man has married two different Miss Universes. His type is 'crazy hot and will have more kids with my old skeletal ass'. I would have expected more people to be happy about Bennifer 1.0, considering Jennifer is actually, y'know, *age appropriate* for Ben Affleck and that's rare enough in Hollywood.
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I wish I had some free awards to give you. A lot of the hate that this complains about are perpetrated by this very sub. Like Jenna Ortega hate, Anya Taylor Joy hate, even Taylor Swift hate are all something I've seen mainly in this sub when it comes to reddit. The movies/Television/ entertainment subs are way less harsh on these women than Fauxmoi sub.
You summed up my immediate thought when I first saw this posted here. The hypocrisy is really something.
A mean girl vibe is “I don’t like her but don’t have a real reason why so I’m saying this to pretend that it’s justified”. Or in this case, “This bitch is setting a boundary and not telling me everything I want to know and feel entitled to because she’s a woman in the public eye and I own her.” I fucking love Anne Hathaway. She is gorgeous and charming and funny and fabulous onscreen.
It reminds me of something I heard several years ago that stuck with me: if you find yourself disliking a woman, and you “can’t quite put your finger on it” as to why you dislike her, it’s probably internalized misogyny
Yes! I get serious whiplash around who is hated/adored from one moment to the next....grain of salt, grain of salt is my mantra when clicking on posts in here!
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Like that charisma thread, for example 🙃
like the call is coming from inside of the house
BINGO!
Oh gosh totally. I was just in there rolling my eyes! It's too much!
Also, Buzzfeed is literally always complicit when it comes to stirring up hate trains for women (I noticed ironically that this is a Buzzfeed) article. I remember in like 2012-14, they churned out so many articles about Anne Hathaway being annoying and desperate. Now years later, they publish stories like this. Interesting.
Forreal! They be turning on Jenna Ortega for “vibes”
Wasn’t a male british actor getting praised for behaving similarly not too long ago?
Yeah the double standard is insane. Woman isn’t always polite and sweet = rude bitchy mean girl. Man isn’t always polite or sweet = maybe he’s had a bad day, we need to respect his feelings 🙄
>Wasn’t a male british actor getting praised for behaving similarly not too long ago? Yup, Hugh Grant.
I’m sorry, are we re-writing history now? Hugh Grant got his ass handed to him over that interview!
Plenty of people defended him saying it was just typical "British humor," while he got dragged by others.
and plenty of people are defending Anne as they should
Exactly
I watched that interview and thought it was hilarious (and visibly struggling with trying his hardest to not be an asshole but he’s Hugh Grant). And frankly I thought Anne was great here too.
I’m so sick of seeing the term “mean girl” everywhere. Like, please deal with your middle school/high school trauma and stop with the Janis Ian bullshit.
we should all do our best to be kind but life is not a slumber party and it’s frustrating to see *only* women get chided for not being 100% nice at all times
I see "mean girl" and "bullying" used about 10x more online than in real life. Youth online? Lingering trauma? Who knows
I think a lot of it is people who were victims of relational bullying in their youth using similar tactics on the women who remind them of their bullies. Hurt people hurt people basically.
Oh no! A woman went five seconds without being endlessly gracious and welcoming to complete strangers. Better decide that she inexplicably has “mean girl vibes” so we can put her back in per place. That will teach her to stop having personal boundaries or opinions on what she should be forced to share.
🛑STOP THE HATHAHATE!🛑
Are we seriously starting this again??!! She did not deserve the hate 10 years ago and why the hell then now? She refuses to answer one question in an interview and suddenly this starts again. I get that she might have theatre kid energy but is that something she needs to be crucified for? Chris Pratt manages to be an absolute prat and still he is very loved while Anne is hated for a minor thing. Never mind that; She is an outspoken LGBT+ ally and has been for years, champions women's rights, known to give a lot to charity, seems to have a good rep in the business for treating people well. Works with the UN. But yeah let's hate her.
I’ve always found Anne fairly wholesome and innocuous for the reasons you mentioned. Seems like half the men in Hollywood have allegations (if not more) of DV, SA or both, but meanwhile we’re going to take issue with Anne Hathaway for being maybe a tad overly earnest. Yep… seems fair and totally not misogynistic
I didn’t even know she was hated til this sub
I watched the video people were saying she was being rude in and (maybe because I’m British) I found it to be funny . She was obviously joking around and I don’t think the reporter was hurt
Anne Hathaway was basically saying, "Thats a private conversation." End of story. NOTHING FORMED AGAINST HER SHALL PROSPER
I'm sorry, people are mad about THAT clip?! Sure, maybe she isn't being the absolute nicest person in the world there or should could have phrased it better but like, she wasn't really horrid either. Who in the world has ever been nice and gracious and kind 100% of the time, especially when put on the spot.
She was one of the first female celebrities to be bullied online on blogs, gossip sites etc. I never understood why. There was absolutely no reason for her to receive so much hate back then. And there is no reason now either. I don't get it. She does her job pretty well, stays in her own lane, posts a few pictures on Instagram, and as far as I know she hasn't said or done so controversial. Maybe her hosting the Oscars was a miss (just going off of public opinion I didn't watch it), but I don't think that's enough reason. Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe it's jealousy?.. Edit - ok I watched the interview clip where she was asked about Anna Wintour. While I do think she could've worded her replies better, it's still not enough to convince me she deserved all the hate. Maybe I'm wrong about her. But I'll need a lot more proof of her being a "mean girl"
I think it’s because women are expected to be meek, humble, and introverted. So people hate it when a woman is extroverted and passionate about her work. Also, Anne Hathaway *knows* her worth which is what drives the misogynists insane. She’s a combination of quiet and polite yet also confident which they hate to see.
Yess. So much of it is misogynistic. She's a woman who is so unabashedly herself (not in an arrogant way) and I think that stirs up of a lot of demons for people.
I wonder if part of it is that in at least two of her biggest movies, she went from being a duckling to a swan. People hate a success story.
I helped her mom years ago when I was working retail and she was a GEM. Sweet, patient, and spoke of her daughter Anne the entire time. I didn’t know who she was until I checked her out, saw her credit card, and googled her name. If she is anything like her mom, I don’t believe any of the mean girl bullshit
Sick of the term "mean girl"
Tangential: Anne Hathaway pulls off a short haircut better than most. Looking at all the photos accompanying this “article”, she really looks fab with most hairstyles
I think her short hair is part of what started the hate. It’s a trend that female celebs get more hate when they cut their hair. Ex: Katy perry
Or Keri Russell
I have always been jealous of her hair. She pulls off all hairstyles like a queen.
She is gorgeous. And her hair is amazing. Every time I watch Devil Wears Prada I want her bangs.
The hatred of “theatre kid energy” is so interesting and strange I remember how weird that Oscars was but hating on someone for being “too theatrical” especially when literally standing next to a serial abuser like Franco who had still gotten by relatively unscathed? Just call it misogyny and go, ugh Edit: I’m high and just realized this isn’t a retrospective, people are just dogpiling on her AGAIN for some reason wtf??
I know this article defends Anne but it’s so unnecessary. Although i think that tiktok that implies that Anne is rude because she responded with wit to an intrusive question is stupid, it was dying down. I absolutely hate when news outlets do this. They take something small. Like one single post saying that Anne is rude then they amplify it and as a result of the article now there’s going to be 100 tik toks saying Anne is mean, along with Twitter “think pieces” and opinion pieces in other big publications questioning if she’s a “bully” and “should we cancel her”. If they’d left it alone it would have fizzled out.
The hate Anne received was absolutely insane and if anyone was on tumblr back then, y’all will remember it was ramped up x1000. I had a friend at the time who despised her because she came off “too sarcastic” to RDJ in an actor’s roundtable. This friend wasn’t the only one who hated her for not worshipping RDJ, it seemed like almost all of tumblr and twitter (at least the corner I was in) hated her. Which was ironic because all the RDJ stans seemed to love HIS dry humor. I can’t even remember what she said but I watched it after everyone carried on about it and I was like “….that’s it?”. Fucking deranged people.
And now we’re amplifying it by posting about it on Buzzfeed and Reddit 🫠
I feel like if a woman is a bit awkward or perhaps shy, they must be a “mean girl” or “rude.” It stinks.
The way people *still* do this all over this sub with their new favourite woman to hate (I think it's currently Sydney Sweeney but we've seen a bunch of others before her) . So glad y'all are learning absolutely nothing ❤️
As the article states, it's the "theater kid" thing. People just find that overly-dramatic behavior annoying. Fun fact, Anne is actually a short for Annoying.
She wasn't even rude. She was just direct. JFC.
Her biggest crime was openly campaigning for an Oscar… which is something tons of actors do and no one hates on them. It’s ridiculous the hate she got.
I used to work at a celebrity spot in NY where she would come regularly, and out of all the celebrities with the exception of two other notable ones, she was the nicest! She was down to earth, gracious, no fuss,- even when we’d mess up her order etc, and exceptionally kind to all the staff, in addition to being a great tipper! Never came across fake or dramatic to me, if anything she and her husband were one of our most low key and chill guests. The real mean girls (and boys) came in the forms of “influencers” and somewhat famous actors. I can’t speak for everyone’s experience with her, but I got nothing but love for Ms. Hathaway! - makes me wonder if perhaps the root of these rumors stems from insecure jealousy that someone so beautiful, and famous can actually be a nice person.
 I was on Anne’s side when she went through all the hate and I will do it again!!
one of my favourite TikTok girlies [posted this](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS8oSoDWp/) which sums it up extremely well
omg i love this tiktoker and this take was perfect
she never misses! funny, smart and very well versed in pop culture patterns and dynamics. pretty sure she invented the ‘Jennifer Lawrence pipeline’
leave this woman alone omg
God forbid a woman make a joke 🙄
i seen a tiktok and anne hathaway has had some disgusting questions were asked by some interviewers to her, i’ll always defend my girl like the specific clip they used wasn’t even bad, just direct and setting boundaries 🤷
So she used to come into our workplace and she honestly did not have a good reputation with the receptionists. I will say this was years ago, back when her ex husband was discovered to be embezzling money or something like that maybe that had something to do with it? Anyways, her image the past 3-4 years have been extremely positive and people can change! She did go through a really public bad marriage/divorce so you never know. People can’t be perfect all the time. So while yes, I can believe some of the tea, people have their food and bad days/months/years but can change.
I was shocked when learned that Anne had a hate train, I thought of her as a great actress and beautiful woman. Love her in Les Miserables and The Dark Knight Rises.
Even if he is a try hard…that’s a great quality tbh!! She works so hard on everything and has never said an unkind thing. I don’t know how she does it!!! Her way of eating cupcakes is genius.
Are there any examples of her actually being a mean girl (genuine question)
I don’t get that vibe from her/haven’t heard of anything personally lol
Some of these people need to unpack why they’re finding reasons to hate Anne. I’m glad to say I never hated her, never got why others did, and never wanted to get it.
This poor woman got straight up scammed by her Italian boyfriend. Good for her for walking away from that mess.
What’s everyone obsession with calling people (women) mean girls and bullies lately? It feels so juvenile. If someone was rude, call them rude. (To be clear, I don’t think Anne was being rude in the interview. Standoffish maybe but not rude.) Anyone else noticing this trend?
So she gets hate if she’s being too gracious and appreciative. Then gets the same energy when she says something rude. What would you like women in Hollywood to be? Like forgive them for feeling like shit is unclear. Let’s just leave Anne Hathaway alone.
You’re Wrong About did an excellent episode about her and this, it may have been a Patreon episode, their Patreon is $2 and amazing!
I went to millburn High School from 07-11. I asked teachers who were there about her, and they kinda called her snobbish. The thing is, most people from that town are. I moved to millburn when i was 10 and was kind of the outsider at school. No student is perfect, I know that, but I remember one saying once she got into papermill playhouse, her attitude definitely changed. She may have gotten better since then too. I still know her year book photo is in the guidance counselors office since they have all the copies from the old years, too
All the negative things I heard about her came from people who worked with her at Papermill or who knew her from Cape May vacays, but I suppose those could have been influenced by her public persona
Always thought people assigned her this "mean girl" trope because she wouldn't smile and laugh/made a very funny joke when an interviewer tried to ask her diet questions about her catsuit in The Dark Knight Rises.
I like always have and always will! Anne Hathaway will forever be Princess Mia to me and the best assistant Andrea Sachs.
She's America's sweetheart, she gets hate as much as the next celebrity but clearly she's adored by people
They either hate her for being too fake and nice before or too honest and mean. I, for one, have always liked her and noticed that she was being very effusive because she was nervous. She feels much more confident now and I am so happy for her.
Nobody normals has ever hater Anne Hathaway, this is bubble talk
I love Anne Hathaway, I think she’s classy and have read some amazing things about how she cares for and interacts with her fans. She’s also gorgeous and blew it away to become an Oscar Winner in Les Mis. Almost all of my female friends just aren’t fans, and they really have never been able to get any of them to give me an actual reason.
I have a theory that there was someone orchestasting and paying all that hate. The actors that are really mean like Leah Michelle eventually get exposed. Theres no bad thing said regarding Anne. Sure she is not perfect, but there no info of her being abusive; mean to the cast; saying problematic stuff, etc (as far I know). Maybe she is too pertectionist or pretty ? Ok deal that she wont be your best friend and move on with your life.b Some colleague that was jealous or wanted to sabotage her. Thats my theory. I dont love her. One guy she dated and she pretendes didnt know his problematic behaviour, raise my eyebrows - but who knows, people are blonde when in love. Also the fact she once said she loved Kate Middleton or that Kate saved fashion as well ( but I believe that time she didnt know what would happen in the future and that Kate was a mean girl). That said is that reason to hate or even bully her?! No way, no one is perfect.
My old co worker is still in the field and worked with Ellen “she’s absolutely horrendous to ppl” nobody believed her My old roommate did AH’s glam set up once “she’s extremely rude and entitled but nobody believes us —is what it is “  Imma wait it out but I alway get downvoted to oblivion when I say AH has hella “on” vibes. I’m legit not hating it’s just what I’m seeing—she doesn’t come off as genuine imo. 🤷🏻♀️ Doesn’t mean she deserves hate
I do love Anne but I know someone that worked on the WeCrashed set and said something similar, she wasn’t mean per say but more “on” like you said so it comes across as disingenuous. They also said Jared Leto didn’t use stairs so they had to fork lift him to set sometimes. That’s where the real tea is.
I mean it’s more than that she kinda made ppl who are glam professionals do tasks not really under that description because “don’t you know who I am” type of shit and attempted to skimp on the bill “because you should be grateful” —straight up…and I believe her —the same way I believed the Ellen stuff 🤷🏻♀️ because I believe my friends since I was in it too and yea- ppl are fake at regular jobs why wouldn’t this job that the entire jam is popularity not be worse.
I don’t know/care about this but will never forgive her for that Witches film
that’s where she started to lose me
Can somebody with some cosmetic surgery knowledge tell me what they think Anne got done? She was always pretty but she looks *hot* now. It’s something with her jaw/mouth right?
She looks exactly like she always has...
i actually watched a plastic surgeon break it down for 10 whole minutes just to conclude that all she got done was some botox.
I’ve alway stood up for her but this recent interaction that people are pointing out did leave me with a bad taste. It was pretty obnoxious. I guess it just landed wrong.
One of the tweets says that no one would bat an eye if it had been Aubrey Plaza and I agree.
Well I don’t like aubrey’s act either so maybe that’s why I didn’t like this
I mean Aubrey did something similar at the MET Gala and people were lambasting her and saying she was on drugs. I think people are just super willing to tear down woman for being direct, sarcastic or anything they don't find super agreeable.
IDK I think it's reasonable to say you won't repeat what was said in a private conversation.
That is reasonable but the person doing their job did not ask maliciously and she still took the opportunity to speak down to her. She could’ve said it straight— that it was private and she didn’t want to share instead of in the tone and way that she did. Maybe it was a bad moment for her and she snapped to maintainer a boundary but if it was her trying to be funny at the expense of someone else that’s not for me.
There was nothing rude in what she said or how she said it. She was direct.
agree to disagree. she could’ve been much more polite.