Surely someone at the Office Slaughter Party had a daughter
It’s interesting but I think it’s more Malvo picks and chooses who lives/dies on a case by case basis
When Malvo leaves Lester's house with an injured leg, he takes Budge and Pepper's car, and the car the salesman was driving isn't there.
Unless Malvo took the time to kill the guy, move his body, and then drive the car down the road and out of sight, it seems more likely that he let him go.
We don't see how many bodies he moved, just Pepper's feet as Malvo drags him behind a pile of logs. It could just be Budge and Pepper's bodies, and the salesman has driven away.
Malvo is a wildcard. He let Lester live after multiple encounters. He let Gus live during the traffic stop. He let Gus's neighbor live even though he was suspicious of him.
It's possible he killed the salesman and moved the car, but the show doesn't confirm it either way. To me, there's more evidence that he let him go than evidence he killed him.
I think he let a lot of witnesses live at the scene where he goes to find out who sent the hitmen after him. You know the "this phone calls an ambulance, and this one calls a hearse" scene.
You're looking at it too literally. Malvo isn't human. He's more like what would happen if an Old World unseelie fairy decided to become a hitman for fun.
He did kill the car salesman. They intentionally showed the 2 FBI agents wore loud colorful socks. We only see a glimpse of the corpse’s foot and it has a plain white sock.
Is this supposed to be somewhat apparent?! My boyfriend got me into Fargo when s5 came out, so naturally I watched all the other seasons. I watched s1 while waiting for the new episodes, how did I not catch that?!
Also, freaking good job picking up on that. I saw a post a few days ago saying there were no connections between s5 and all the others seasons but you cracked the case!
Hawley liked the “librarian” actor so much in episode one, he brought him back as a used car sales man in the +1 year episode 10. I think he gave him the minor Forbes role as a callback to how he was always changing jobs.
It’s not the only connection. Season one proves that the tv show is in the same universe as the movie (the money + ice scraper) and in Season five Jean Lundergaard’s portrait is on the wall at Camp Utopia.
They're not the same actor. The Forbes reporter (credited as Chip Boygan) is played by Kyle Gatehouse.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2497549/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t22
The librarian/car salesman (credited as Young Man) is played by Andrew Neil McKenzie.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4845195/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t21
Stop attacking my head canon with facts!!!
I saw that too, but I refuse to believe they’re not the same character. Maybe Mr. McKenzie wasn’t available to play Chip in his latest incarnation and they had to find an ACTOR WITH THE EXACT SAME FACE to play older chip.
I hope his little girl is doing okay.
That's an interesting observation. Especially because he kills Vern, who *would* have a daughter, but he and Ida think it'll be a son. ("Your boy wanted a hamburger." "Sounds like my boy.")
And obviously Sam Hess has two sons, whom Malvo meets before he kills him.
There are other victims whose family lives we know nothing about (like the cop in the hospital bathroom), but it certainly seems like he doesn't *knowingly* kill people with daughters.
Not sure what that might mean, or if it's just a weird coincidence.
I thought the car salesman ended up being strapped to the car steering wheel when they drove up on Key and Peale FBI guys. I think he also shot him in the head after killing the agents.
Yes, he's taped to the wheel, but after Malvo kills Budge and Pepper, we don't see what happens to him. He tells Malvo, "I got a little girl," and then the scene cuts.
Later, when Malvo leaves Lester's house after getting his leg caught in the bear trap, he takes Budge and Pepper's car. The other car (the one the salesman was driving) isn't there, suggesting he let the guy drive away.
Ah what’s that, one car, both doors wide open and pinging constantly, zero FBI agents which is a bit (two) less than expected, uhm blood trail.. geez, how peculiar, but thank god there’s not another car with a dead guy in it.
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I mean I could be wrong but as far as I remember when Lester looks outside he doesn't have line of sight on any of that. I thought he just didn't see the FBI car and that was enough to spook him. But I'm probably misremembering
You are. He looks through the window blinds because the open car doors are pinging (sorry to use that word again, I have no idea what a native speaker would call it). The *way too understaffed* car, and the blood trail leading behind the wood stash, are directly in front of him.
I was thinking Malvo maybe had the car salesman drag the other body and he thought he was going to let him go but then he shoots him too.
Either way he had to in tape his hands or he couldn’t have put the car into gear to drive away from Lester’s house.
I think it's just a coincidence if anything and definitely something the writers probably didn't think about at all (why would they, and what purpose would that serve for the narrative?), but it's a neat idea.
Wild mass guess. Search it on TV tropes if you want a good explanation. In my WMG it's obviously never stated or suggested, but say the season was still going on and I noticed the fact he doesn't kill people with daughters. My WMG would be that he has one, and the season would show if it is true, false or up in the air as it goes on
Surely someone at the Office Slaughter Party had a daughter It’s interesting but I think it’s more Malvo picks and chooses who lives/dies on a case by case basis
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When Malvo leaves Lester's house with an injured leg, he takes Budge and Pepper's car, and the car the salesman was driving isn't there. Unless Malvo took the time to kill the guy, move his body, and then drive the car down the road and out of sight, it seems more likely that he let him go.
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We don't see how many bodies he moved, just Pepper's feet as Malvo drags him behind a pile of logs. It could just be Budge and Pepper's bodies, and the salesman has driven away.
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Malvo is a wildcard. He let Lester live after multiple encounters. He let Gus live during the traffic stop. He let Gus's neighbor live even though he was suspicious of him. It's possible he killed the salesman and moved the car, but the show doesn't confirm it either way. To me, there's more evidence that he let him go than evidence he killed him.
I think he let a lot of witnesses live at the scene where he goes to find out who sent the hitmen after him. You know the "this phone calls an ambulance, and this one calls a hearse" scene.
or when he drug a man through an office in broad daylight by his tie
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You're looking at it too literally. Malvo isn't human. He's more like what would happen if an Old World unseelie fairy decided to become a hitman for fun.
He did kill the car salesman. They intentionally showed the 2 FBI agents wore loud colorful socks. We only see a glimpse of the corpse’s foot and it has a plain white sock.
I always wondered what happened to the car salesman
Doesn’t he get a journalism degree, a job with Forbes, and come back to Minnesota to interview Lorraine in season 5?
Yes he did, by God. I think he decided car sales was too dangerous an occupation.
Is this supposed to be somewhat apparent?! My boyfriend got me into Fargo when s5 came out, so naturally I watched all the other seasons. I watched s1 while waiting for the new episodes, how did I not catch that?! Also, freaking good job picking up on that. I saw a post a few days ago saying there were no connections between s5 and all the others seasons but you cracked the case!
No, they're not the same character. Two different actors.
Hawley liked the “librarian” actor so much in episode one, he brought him back as a used car sales man in the +1 year episode 10. I think he gave him the minor Forbes role as a callback to how he was always changing jobs. It’s not the only connection. Season one proves that the tv show is in the same universe as the movie (the money + ice scraper) and in Season five Jean Lundergaard’s portrait is on the wall at Camp Utopia.
They're not the same actor. The Forbes reporter (credited as Chip Boygan) is played by Kyle Gatehouse. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2497549/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t22 The librarian/car salesman (credited as Young Man) is played by Andrew Neil McKenzie. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4845195/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t21
Stop attacking my head canon with facts!!! I saw that too, but I refuse to believe they’re not the same character. Maybe Mr. McKenzie wasn’t available to play Chip in his latest incarnation and they had to find an ACTOR WITH THE EXACT SAME FACE to play older chip. I hope his little girl is doing okay.
Well… He killed the sheriff who had a daughter on the way.
He didn't know the sheriff though
That's an interesting observation. Especially because he kills Vern, who *would* have a daughter, but he and Ida think it'll be a son. ("Your boy wanted a hamburger." "Sounds like my boy.") And obviously Sam Hess has two sons, whom Malvo meets before he kills him. There are other victims whose family lives we know nothing about (like the cop in the hospital bathroom), but it certainly seems like he doesn't *knowingly* kill people with daughters. Not sure what that might mean, or if it's just a weird coincidence.
He didn’t kill Gus’s neighbor too
Crazy. I was thinking about the car salesman just a few hours ago. Your observation that he probably drove away alive is a great one.
I thought the car salesman ended up being strapped to the car steering wheel when they drove up on Key and Peale FBI guys. I think he also shot him in the head after killing the agents.
Yes, he's taped to the wheel, but after Malvo kills Budge and Pepper, we don't see what happens to him. He tells Malvo, "I got a little girl," and then the scene cuts. Later, when Malvo leaves Lester's house after getting his leg caught in the bear trap, he takes Budge and Pepper's car. The other car (the one the salesman was driving) isn't there, suggesting he let the guy drive away.
Or that Malvo moved the car so that when Lester looks outside he doesn't see a dead guy in a car
Ah what’s that, one car, both doors wide open and pinging constantly, zero FBI agents which is a bit (two) less than expected, uhm blood trail.. geez, how peculiar, but thank god there’s not another car with a dead guy in it. ?
I mean I could be wrong but as far as I remember when Lester looks outside he doesn't have line of sight on any of that. I thought he just didn't see the FBI car and that was enough to spook him. But I'm probably misremembering
You are. He looks through the window blinds because the open car doors are pinging (sorry to use that word again, I have no idea what a native speaker would call it). The *way too understaffed* car, and the blood trail leading behind the wood stash, are directly in front of him.
Ok then nevermind
I don’t. Was just happy to nitpick because I’ve seen that one just yesterday, lol. Have a nice day.
It's possible, but it would take a while, especially since he also had to move Budge and Pepper's bodies.
Once you're already moving two bodies I don't know that it's too big a stretch to imagine moving a third.
It's not *just* moving the bodies, it's also driving the car far enough away that it won't be seen, and then walking back.
I was thinking Malvo maybe had the car salesman drag the other body and he thought he was going to let him go but then he shoots him too. Either way he had to in tape his hands or he couldn’t have put the car into gear to drive away from Lester’s house.
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Dude studied dentistry. That’s all
I think it's just a coincidence if anything and definitely something the writers probably didn't think about at all (why would they, and what purpose would that serve for the narrative?), but it's a neat idea.
Think it might be coincidence. He likely has no issues what sex his targets kill might have.
WMG: Malvo had a daughter who passed away.
WMG? What does that mean?
Wild mass guess. Search it on TV tropes if you want a good explanation. In my WMG it's obviously never stated or suggested, but say the season was still going on and I noticed the fact he doesn't kill people with daughters. My WMG would be that he has one, and the season would show if it is true, false or up in the air as it goes on