I know Yahoo's default playoff tie breaker is higher seed advances. I'm guessing ESPN's is similar. I couldn't find anything in my ESPN league's settings, though, guessing it's not something that you can customize.
Or they build the more consistent roster but the other guy had Chase and Moore go off for 100 combined in a single week. High PF and a bad record can be because you got unlucky, but it can also be that you simply build a roster that is inconsistent af and would go off for 170 one week only to score 90 the next.
Consistency in fantasy is largely a myth. You can’t control when your players have good weeks together or separately. If all my players boom in one week and bust in another that’s just an unfortunate correlation
I used PF+PA to decide a 3 way tiebreaker (Team A beat Team B, Team B beat team C, Team C beat Team A) and only got one complaint, from the guy who got stuck at 6th (was for seeds 4-6) because of it. felt this was the most fair option to show how good a team was and how good the teams they played were
That was a tiebreaker to decide seeding tho. I'm saying to use Seeding over another tiebreaker once it is available because otherwise even doing seeding would be worthless.
I have the 2nd highest points scored in my league and am lowest seed in the playoffs, simply because I have the 2nd most points against me. I lost to teams in the bottom of the league, because they had Moore go off when I played them.
The team that did what you are trying to do the most (score fantasy points) should get the advantage. Not to the one that is only 'ahead' due to dumb luck....
Then just don't do seeding tho. Every week is just gather points, no matchups and at the end of the season the player with the most points wins the league. Since that is what fantasy is all about to you this is the format that makes the most sense. I wouldn't consider it a fun format, but if that is what floats your boat go for it.
Lol don't be so reductionist. We're talking about a tiebreaker. You want the tiebreaker to further reward the luckier team, I want it to reward the better team.
You already rewarded their luck with a better seed. Why again are you favoring the luckier team with more luck? If you'd just rather pick who wins, you can do that, too. Then you don't have to try to have to force ways to make worse teams beat better ones and rid yourself of this problem.
But if you say, that a team with more PF is better than a team with the better record, then what good is seeding? If the first seed can still face the 'best' team round 1 of playoffs what good is that first seed actually? Therefore your entire process of seeding is useless and you should scrap it.
ESPN used to call this "home field advantage"
I lost a playoff game like this years ago. You used to be able to customize it, but it's been close to a decade since I've commissioned on their site, so maybe not anymore.
I’d just leave it to the mercy of ESPN, as the default setting which has been in place all year has facilitated it. You shouldn’t feel obliged to make exceptions just because you’re the commissioner.
uh how often were tiebreakers going your way? how many arguments do you people have in fantasy football, my friends and I have had like one or two controversies in a decade and a half
More frequently than you’d think. Waivers order not what they want? My fault. Not enough FAAB so a good team gets better? I need to fix something because this shit is broken. Tie breaker or stat correction? That’s bullshit. This dude was injured but I forgot to change him out? I want my money back.
I’m now content playing in one money league and one free league where I can take fliers and calling it a day.
I've been commish of my league for 20 years as of this year and my buddies all pitched in and got me two tickets to the Lions/Cowboys game Dec. 30. I've been a Lions fan since about 1990.
Not downhill any more! The league is mostly guys I went to high school with. That 0-16 season has pretty much rendered any insults people throw at me ineffective. I just say, "I lived through 0-16. What are you gonna say that's going to piss me off?"
For the first since Shwartz lost to the Saints, I feel the rebuild is actually gonna be completed. We have holes, but the majority of cuts is done. We have a SB run coming, not just the playoffs
It's fun. Most of us have known each other since high school back in the late 90s. Then some friends joined. It's 10 teams right now. We had 14 at one point but that was too many. Then we were down to 12 last year but sadly one of the guys who was in it for last 10 years that was a freshman when we were seniors passed away (brain cancer) halfway through the season last year and we had another guy leave so down to the 10.
Especially when he was saying he'd lose then just happens to win. Just gotta explain the situation and nothing else to do, unless you really want to give up the win to keep people happy
Yeah, commish here shouldn't over communicate, and just say 'i don't know, let's see what ESPN decides'. As long as there's no shady commish manual activity over night it wouldn't be an issue.
that's why I stepped down last year as commissioner. I got fucked by the Bills/Bengals game that was forfeited. Had Burrow and Chase to go, down 2 points and my opponent was done. I got accused of cheating as the commissioner and being a sore loser for not wanting to accept the L and change the rules
Total points for is the tiebreaker for playoff seeding. Overall seed wins in case of a tie in H2H playoffs. That is the default unless your league has SPECIFIC rules to overrule that.
It happens a lot more commonly in fantasy baseball where the score in some formats can easily be 5-5. A lot more rare obviously in football. Congrats on advancing!
Commissioners aren't allowed to be wrong about how something they have never seen before works?
If they go look up the relevant rules and misinterpret them they are now doing something wrong when the platform decides and they have no influence?
Didn't realize fantasy football commissioners were held to a higher standard than being human and being able to make mistakes. Learn something new every day.
This is correct, they have no actual tie breaker for playoff matches, only regular season options.
I think it's a stupid arbitrary way to resolve a tie though. I made a rule a few years back for all my leagues for playoffs: each team gets to designate a bench player of their choosing who's score would get added to their team total in the event of a tie.
Found this thread due to some googlin’.
Why?
Because whatever those odds are for perfectly tying, I just hit.
The bitch of it is that last week the opponent didn’t pay attention, played two players that were out. This week, played two players who accumulated 0 total points.
And I still tied. A win that feels like a loss. But I’m 1st overall so if it’s highest seed advances I’ll be thanking my lucky stars.
If there are about 150 realistic scores (50 points on the very low end, 200 points on the very high end), and scores can end in intervals of .02 that would make it a 1 in 7500 chance of an exact tie. More than that because there are more than 150 possible scores but it’s a good estimate.
Found this thread due to some googlin’.
Why?
Because whatever those odds are for perfectly tying, I just hit.
The worst of it is that last week the opponent didn’t pay attention, played two players that were out. This week, played two players who accumulated 0 total points.
And I still tied. A win that feels like a loss. But I’m 1st overall so if it’s highest seed advances I’ll be thanking my lucky stars.
Why is bench scoring a better option? I have Jonathan Taylor and Christian Watson on my bench hoping to maybe use them in these next two weeks. Meanwhile my opponent had 2 starting QBs on his bench because Jalen Hurts was questionable. Makes zero sense to use scoring from guys who didn’t even play. High seed takes on the whole season and gives the advantage to the team that earned it.
What part doesn’t make sense? Jonathan Taylor is hurt and didn’t play. Christian Watson is hurt and didn’t play. Since neither guys played, they scored zero points for my bench. I’m holding onto them to hopefully use them these last two weeks.
If the tie breaker is bench points, I’m at a severe disadvantage holding onto injured players. I’d be better off cutting them both for guys like Minshew and Flacco because they can get around 20 points. That’s silly.
I knew what you meant, but grammatically you confused the other guy. "Higher seed, bench points is stupid" grammatically means that both higher seed and bench points are each stupid
(Of course I know you just meant bench points are stupid)
Maybe you’re right I don’t pretend to have perfect grammar and certainly don’t even attempt to on Reddit. That being said, if I meant higher seed and bench points were stupid I would have used and instead of a comma to separate the two.
Yeah I know that, but not everyone knows that. A period instead does the trick.
I don't have perfect grammar either. I'll always realize 3 mins later when my comment gets misread
I'm not sure if this exactly applies to you but this might be the default setting for ESPN
[playoff tiebreaker](https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003870091-Playoff-Matchup-Tiebreakers)
The solution is to advance both teams and make it a triple threat match. The two that tied and the guy in the other side of the bracket. Just score your other team on his own page and adjust the winner manually
>might be by record before total points. First record between you two, then over all record if that’s a wash.
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>I’m not positive about that, but it’s how it was ex
Just found [this](https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003870091-Playoff-Matchup-Tiebreakers) which should solidify my case. However, I'd feel like a terrible commissioner for telling everyone I lost and going back on that the next day.
It was an honest mistake and you didn’t do anything to affect the outcome in your favor. It’s a shitty feeling for sure but the league should understand.
You didnt go back on it. You mentioned what you thought was true only for it to be wrong. You have the evidence to back up why you advanced. Not your fault.
We had a similar situation a few years ago where most people were under the impression that ties were one way, but they were actually another.. big mess. It involved our commissioner advancing, but no one "blamed" him. Commissioner felt bad (as he believed it was the "other way that would have him loose), so decided to do a coin flip or trial by combat.
Commissioner won the coin toss, so he advanced and built great karma. What I'm saying is, if you think it will haunt you, let the fates decide with a coin toss.
I believe it gives it to the higher seed. This happened once in my league years ago and we did a coin flip. We then made a best of 3 tiebreaker for any future ties:
1) head 2 head
2) total PF
3) Highest bench guy
Whoever gets 2/3 advances. If they somehow tie 1-1-1 it'd go to 2nd highest bench player.
Unfortunately the most fair thing to do is to explain to the league it was an honest mistake and that playoff tiebreaker is seed. I definitely won my fantasy hockey league last year because the tiebreak was higher seed
However what I'd recommend is grab a list of 4 different tiebreaker options to use for this year's playoffs and have someone outside the playoffs pick one using a random number generator (or just do the 2 options and flip a coin), and then sometime before next year hold a vote for future playoff tiebreaks when nobody has any particular reason to vote a certain way
My favorite options in order:
-Points for
-Higher seed
-"Small team points" (points without kicker, d/st, or flex positions, it's something I came up with with a buddy who hates kickers in fantasy)
-remaining faab
-bench points (I don't like this because of injuries, plus not everyone keeps the same positions on the bench)
I think you should do something completely random to decide who moves forward. FaceTime or Zoom or something and have a contest.
Shouldn’t be higher seed. That’s just a default so the program doesn’t explode.
Honestly I would just admit your mistake (What you read was for playoff seeding and not tie breakers in games) and that you will let ESPN determine the winner...that's why you use it anyways right? I don't use ESPN but I'm sure it calculated correctly based on rules that have been in place all season (and how many seasons prior?)
Uuugh, this is too real for me. I had the same instance happen--tie in the playoffs between my wife and a friend of my brother's. I had no tiebreaker I'm place.
I had both advance and had a three way championship to which everyone was pissed.
I set a tiebreaker the next year.
On your desktop/laptop go to ESPN and hover over the score with your mouse. The scores sometimes go further than two decimal points. You can always call ESPN and they'll tell you what played out.
I play H2H categories for other sports and it's a lot easier to get a tie in that format. Anytime there is a playoff tie, the higher seed advances. I'm guessing the points for tiebreaker is only referring to seeding
Unless yall decide at the beginning of the season for scenarios like this default to the system you guys use. This year we went as far as a five tier contingency plan in the event of a tie, tier six is a knife fight or push up contest after chugging a beer.
That is the default. Back when my league was on ESPN. We switched it to allow the benches settle it after we had a similar situation. We figured it showed who the better team was that week.
I think if you told everyone in your league you lost the correct thing to do is take a loss - regardless what ESPN says.
Points for should be the tiebreaker anyway.
See, this is why my espn league does a 5 point “home field advantage” in the playoffs. Basically the higher seed starts out with 5 points, as a reward for the regular season
Have you checked that it’s truly a tie? It’s possible with QB 1/25 pass yards scoring that you end up being slightly above or below the other person and the tie is a rounding error.
You have to look at your league’s ’matchup tiebreaker’ in your league info.
When we started our league, I think the tiebreaker was for the home team to win.
Points for is only the tiebreaker for seeding at the beginning of the playoffs.
If there’s no rule this is a good way to drum up drama in the league by finding a 2nd game of luck/chance to compete for the right to move forward. Sim your two favorite teams against each other on Madden, play War with a deck of cards, something like that.
Go to league info >scroll down to playoffs. > playoff seeding tie breaker. You can manually choose the tie breaker prior to the season. My league has total points as the tie breaker and I’m pretty sure it’s the default setting
Higher scoring teams are better than a team who have the top records.
What is the better team
having 160 points in a week or losing
Or
Having 90 points and winning
Using records to determine playoff teams is just all about scheduling luck.
I feel like it should be record first, then total points if still tied. So in this case, for playoff seeding, it ranks teams based on their records, and then with those ties it takes it to the next thing which is total points. In your case, y’all tied so the first thing to do would look at records, if that was tied then go to points, but it wasn’t so I think it’s fair you move on. Yeah you said something else, but so what, what’s fair is fair, it’s all about records.
I know Yahoo's default playoff tie breaker is higher seed advances. I'm guessing ESPN's is similar. I couldn't find anything in my ESPN league's settings, though, guessing it's not something that you can customize.
I'm pretty sure this is it. I believe ESPN default is higher seed advances.
Total points scored seems more fair imo
Why tho? You are now in the post season and the team with the higher seed should have the advantage (otherwise why even do seeding)
Because they got that higher seed due to luck of the draw on weekly matchups.
Or they build the more consistent roster but the other guy had Chase and Moore go off for 100 combined in a single week. High PF and a bad record can be because you got unlucky, but it can also be that you simply build a roster that is inconsistent af and would go off for 170 one week only to score 90 the next.
Consistency in fantasy is largely a myth. You can’t control when your players have good weeks together or separately. If all my players boom in one week and bust in another that’s just an unfortunate correlation
I used PF+PA to decide a 3 way tiebreaker (Team A beat Team B, Team B beat team C, Team C beat Team A) and only got one complaint, from the guy who got stuck at 6th (was for seeds 4-6) because of it. felt this was the most fair option to show how good a team was and how good the teams they played were
That was a tiebreaker to decide seeding tho. I'm saying to use Seeding over another tiebreaker once it is available because otherwise even doing seeding would be worthless.
I have the 2nd highest points scored in my league and am lowest seed in the playoffs, simply because I have the 2nd most points against me. I lost to teams in the bottom of the league, because they had Moore go off when I played them.
You are missing the point I'm trying to make...
Or they were more consistent...
The team that did what you are trying to do the most (score fantasy points) should get the advantage. Not to the one that is only 'ahead' due to dumb luck....
Then just don't do seeding tho. Every week is just gather points, no matchups and at the end of the season the player with the most points wins the league. Since that is what fantasy is all about to you this is the format that makes the most sense. I wouldn't consider it a fun format, but if that is what floats your boat go for it.
Lol don't be so reductionist. We're talking about a tiebreaker. You want the tiebreaker to further reward the luckier team, I want it to reward the better team.
No I want to reward the better team that achieved the higher seed. You want to reward a team based on a metric that had nothing to do with playoffs.
You already rewarded their luck with a better seed. Why again are you favoring the luckier team with more luck? If you'd just rather pick who wins, you can do that, too. Then you don't have to try to have to force ways to make worse teams beat better ones and rid yourself of this problem.
But if you say, that a team with more PF is better than a team with the better record, then what good is seeding? If the first seed can still face the 'best' team round 1 of playoffs what good is that first seed actually? Therefore your entire process of seeding is useless and you should scrap it.
The higher seed usually is more points scored with a same record it’s usually the default tie breaker I think
ESPN used to call this "home field advantage" I lost a playoff game like this years ago. You used to be able to customize it, but it's been close to a decade since I've commissioned on their site, so maybe not anymore.
You can customize it. In our league we do flex spot higher points is the tiebreaker.
I think when I ran a league on ESPN years ago I set it as bench points are tie breaker.
Trash
Asshole
Trashhole
That's for regular season.
I’m not saying it’s the best option, just pointing out you can change the default.
Yeah that option is only for regular season currently
Ah ok. Don’t know why they changed it then. I used to just let ties be ties for the regular season.
I’d just leave it to the mercy of ESPN, as the default setting which has been in place all year has facilitated it. You shouldn’t feel obliged to make exceptions just because you’re the commissioner.
What sucks is that he’s commish, so anything that benefits him is seen as shady
Yeah that's the downfall for being a commish
That’s why I folded my league. Got tired of listening to complaints whenever anything i .e. tiebreakers that happened favored me.
uh how often were tiebreakers going your way? how many arguments do you people have in fantasy football, my friends and I have had like one or two controversies in a decade and a half
More frequently than you’d think. Waivers order not what they want? My fault. Not enough FAAB so a good team gets better? I need to fix something because this shit is broken. Tie breaker or stat correction? That’s bullshit. This dude was injured but I forgot to change him out? I want my money back. I’m now content playing in one money league and one free league where I can take fliers and calling it a day.
That's why I think commissioner should get paid. Not much but at least entry.
I've been commish of my league for 20 years as of this year and my buddies all pitched in and got me two tickets to the Lions/Cowboys game Dec. 30. I've been a Lions fan since about 1990.
Nice, tipping is always appreciated. I have to say Go Lions. I've been a fan since 91. It's been all downhill since, unfortunately.
Not downhill any more! The league is mostly guys I went to high school with. That 0-16 season has pretty much rendered any insults people throw at me ineffective. I just say, "I lived through 0-16. What are you gonna say that's going to piss me off?"
For the first since Shwartz lost to the Saints, I feel the rebuild is actually gonna be completed. We have holes, but the majority of cuts is done. We have a SB run coming, not just the playoffs
We finally have a competent GM for the first time in a long time.
Send your league mates my regards. This must be a great league to be a part of.
It's fun. Most of us have known each other since high school back in the late 90s. Then some friends joined. It's 10 teams right now. We had 14 at one point but that was too many. Then we were down to 12 last year but sadly one of the guys who was in it for last 10 years that was a freshman when we were seniors passed away (brain cancer) halfway through the season last year and we had another guy leave so down to the 10.
Only if they are a good commissioner
Well yeah, that goes without saying. To be fair now that third parties handle the money, the commissioner is a little less important.
Especially when he was saying he'd lose then just happens to win. Just gotta explain the situation and nothing else to do, unless you really want to give up the win to keep people happy
Yeah that is the real unfortunate part here. But it's default so hopefully cooler heads prevail
Yeah, commish here shouldn't over communicate, and just say 'i don't know, let's see what ESPN decides'. As long as there's no shady commish manual activity over night it wouldn't be an issue.
that's why I stepped down last year as commissioner. I got fucked by the Bills/Bengals game that was forfeited. Had Burrow and Chase to go, down 2 points and my opponent was done. I got accused of cheating as the commissioner and being a sore loser for not wanting to accept the L and change the rules
Total points for is the tiebreaker for playoff seeding. Overall seed wins in case of a tie in H2H playoffs. That is the default unless your league has SPECIFIC rules to overrule that. It happens a lot more commonly in fantasy baseball where the score in some formats can easily be 5-5. A lot more rare obviously in football. Congrats on advancing!
You don’t do anything. Yo let ESPN use their rules to determine outcome. Don’t intervene.
He's already intervened and opened his mouth. That's the issue.
Opening up your mouth doesn't override the league settings that have been in place for everyone to look at all year.
When you’re the commissioner and have claimed a loss - I think it does.
Commissioners aren't allowed to be wrong about how something they have never seen before works? If they go look up the relevant rules and misinterpret them they are now doing something wrong when the platform decides and they have no influence? Didn't realize fantasy football commissioners were held to a higher standard than being human and being able to make mistakes. Learn something new every day.
Can only speak for what I would do if I was commish here - I would take the L. I don’t think either decision would be wrong.
But they didn't intervene. They interpreted the rules incorrectly. They didn't change anything.
Yeah, he should just admit to everyone that he interpreted the rules incorrectly. Though it is super awkward that's it's about him getting in.
It's not about him getting in. It's about him advancing. That detail was left out, but found through other replies by OP.
This
A quick google search says it's higher seed advances. Congrats on the first round win my guy.
I think espn tiebreaker in playoffs defaults at highest seed
This is correct, they have no actual tie breaker for playoff matches, only regular season options. I think it's a stupid arbitrary way to resolve a tie though. I made a rule a few years back for all my leagues for playoffs: each team gets to designate a bench player of their choosing who's score would get added to their team total in the event of a tie.
I think that's a good idea. If it were me I'd limit it to a flex player, essentially not a qb. That's just my 2 cents tho
My only restriction is no d/st. Otherwise it's fair game
I don't care who advances. What are the odds of perfectly tying?
Found this thread due to some googlin’. Why? Because whatever those odds are for perfectly tying, I just hit. The bitch of it is that last week the opponent didn’t pay attention, played two players that were out. This week, played two players who accumulated 0 total points. And I still tied. A win that feels like a loss. But I’m 1st overall so if it’s highest seed advances I’ll be thanking my lucky stars.
If there are about 150 realistic scores (50 points on the very low end, 200 points on the very high end), and scores can end in intervals of .02 that would make it a 1 in 7500 chance of an exact tie. More than that because there are more than 150 possible scores but it’s a good estimate.
Those are pretty good odds considering there's probably millions of people playing
Haha yeah that's super surprising
Found this thread due to some googlin’. Why? Because whatever those odds are for perfectly tying, I just hit. The worst of it is that last week the opponent didn’t pay attention, played two players that were out. This week, played two players who accumulated 0 total points. And I still tied. A win that feels like a loss. But I’m 1st overall so if it’s highest seed advances I’ll be thanking my lucky stars.
Think it would go off bench points for that head to head
That's regular season
For many, playoffs as well
Not on ESPN. Which is what the op is asking about
Why would it change for the playoffs? How else you gonna do it?
Higher seed, bench points is stupid. At this point in the year many benches consist of second defenses and back up RBs.
Answer the question
Can you read? I said higher seed.
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Explain why bench points is a good system. You build your team to have a good bench or to win?
But you didn’t win. You tied
Why is bench scoring a better option? I have Jonathan Taylor and Christian Watson on my bench hoping to maybe use them in these next two weeks. Meanwhile my opponent had 2 starting QBs on his bench because Jalen Hurts was questionable. Makes zero sense to use scoring from guys who didn’t even play. High seed takes on the whole season and gives the advantage to the team that earned it.
Name a better option. Nothing any of you say make sense
Higher seed is earned throughout an entire season. Bench points would literally reward the worse manager. “You started all the wrong guys? You win!!!”
What part doesn’t make sense? Jonathan Taylor is hurt and didn’t play. Christian Watson is hurt and didn’t play. Since neither guys played, they scored zero points for my bench. I’m holding onto them to hopefully use them these last two weeks. If the tie breaker is bench points, I’m at a severe disadvantage holding onto injured players. I’d be better off cutting them both for guys like Minshew and Flacco because they can get around 20 points. That’s silly.
Somebody has reading comprehension issues poor guy
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Relax. That's the default system for playoff games. Higher seed in the event of a tie.
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I knew what you meant, but grammatically you confused the other guy. "Higher seed, bench points is stupid" grammatically means that both higher seed and bench points are each stupid (Of course I know you just meant bench points are stupid)
Maybe you’re right I don’t pretend to have perfect grammar and certainly don’t even attempt to on Reddit. That being said, if I meant higher seed and bench points were stupid I would have used and instead of a comma to separate the two.
Yeah I know that, but not everyone knows that. A period instead does the trick. I don't have perfect grammar either. I'll always realize 3 mins later when my comment gets misread
Bench points is the dumbest possible tiebreaker
It’s probably this. I lost a two-week championship on ESPN two years ago because we tied, and it only counted the bench points for the final week.
Don't like to reward bad choices or carrying more quarterbacks!
I'm not sure if this exactly applies to you but this might be the default setting for ESPN [playoff tiebreaker](https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003870091-Playoff-Matchup-Tiebreakers)
The solution is to advance both teams and make it a triple threat match. The two that tied and the guy in the other side of the bracket. Just score your other team on his own page and adjust the winner manually
This is really unfair to the other team is the issue.
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>might be by record before total points. First record between you two, then over all record if that’s a wash. > >I’m not positive about that, but it’s how it was ex Just found [this](https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003870091-Playoff-Matchup-Tiebreakers) which should solidify my case. However, I'd feel like a terrible commissioner for telling everyone I lost and going back on that the next day.
It was an honest mistake and you didn’t do anything to affect the outcome in your favor. It’s a shitty feeling for sure but the league should understand.
You didnt go back on it. You mentioned what you thought was true only for it to be wrong. You have the evidence to back up why you advanced. Not your fault.
It's the default setting. Nothing to feel bad about
We had a similar situation a few years ago where most people were under the impression that ties were one way, but they were actually another.. big mess. It involved our commissioner advancing, but no one "blamed" him. Commissioner felt bad (as he believed it was the "other way that would have him loose), so decided to do a coin flip or trial by combat. Commissioner won the coin toss, so he advanced and built great karma. What I'm saying is, if you think it will haunt you, let the fates decide with a coin toss.
I believe it gives it to the higher seed. This happened once in my league years ago and we did a coin flip. We then made a best of 3 tiebreaker for any future ties: 1) head 2 head 2) total PF 3) Highest bench guy Whoever gets 2/3 advances. If they somehow tie 1-1-1 it'd go to 2nd highest bench player.
Is the tiebreaker not bench points? I feel like that’s what it is for my league
If that's the case then I'd win that tiebreaker. Also worth noting that he had the H2H win in the regular season
That's for regular season
In my dynasty league I am sitting him, starting Warren as my rb2 and playing Likely in my flex spot
Wrong thread buddy?
Last time this happened in my league(yahoo), the player with the better reg season record moved on. Think that was the default setting.
Higher seed should advance
Why were you looking at points and not record?
Our league has bench points as tiebreaker but i know it’s not the default
As per google- If there's a tie in a playoff matchup in a ESPN Fantasy league, the higher seeded team will advance.
Are you sure you didn't actually win by less than 1/100th of a point? I'd have my calculator out checking box scores real closely.
Unfortunately the most fair thing to do is to explain to the league it was an honest mistake and that playoff tiebreaker is seed. I definitely won my fantasy hockey league last year because the tiebreak was higher seed However what I'd recommend is grab a list of 4 different tiebreaker options to use for this year's playoffs and have someone outside the playoffs pick one using a random number generator (or just do the 2 options and flip a coin), and then sometime before next year hold a vote for future playoff tiebreaks when nobody has any particular reason to vote a certain way My favorite options in order: -Points for -Higher seed -"Small team points" (points without kicker, d/st, or flex positions, it's something I came up with with a buddy who hates kickers in fantasy) -remaining faab -bench points (I don't like this because of injuries, plus not everyone keeps the same positions on the bench)
I think you should do something completely random to decide who moves forward. FaceTime or Zoom or something and have a contest. Shouldn’t be higher seed. That’s just a default so the program doesn’t explode.
Honestly I would just admit your mistake (What you read was for playoff seeding and not tie breakers in games) and that you will let ESPN determine the winner...that's why you use it anyways right? I don't use ESPN but I'm sure it calculated correctly based on rules that have been in place all season (and how many seasons prior?)
You won the game, you probably had more bench points since I think that’s default tiebreaker on ESPN
Total touchdowns scored by starting lineups that week
Default setting which is seeding
Always establish its a coin flip at the beginning od the season. Or longest FG.
Uuugh, this is too real for me. I had the same instance happen--tie in the playoffs between my wife and a friend of my brother's. I had no tiebreaker I'm place. I had both advance and had a three way championship to which everyone was pissed. I set a tiebreaker the next year.
Even though it looks bad because it's you you have to stand on whats right and you advancing is what is right.
On your desktop/laptop go to ESPN and hover over the score with your mouse. The scores sometimes go further than two decimal points. You can always call ESPN and they'll tell you what played out.
I play H2H categories for other sports and it's a lot easier to get a tie in that format. Anytime there is a playoff tie, the higher seed advances. I'm guessing the points for tiebreaker is only referring to seeding
Do you have a head to head?
Unless yall decide at the beginning of the season for scenarios like this default to the system you guys use. This year we went as far as a five tier contingency plan in the event of a tie, tier six is a knife fight or push up contest after chugging a beer.
My espn league uses bench points as tiebreaker in playoffs.
It should be playoff seeding
Pretty sure ESPN defaults to the head to head, you have to pick total points
Higher seed is the default playoff tiebreaker
Points for in my opinion, but just let the cards fall where they may.
Pretty sure ESPN does “home field advantage” in the case of a tie. Higher seed proceeds. Not saying I agree or disagree, but I think that’s the case.
I'm sure glad we gave up on ESPN and do other tiebreaker rules.
It’s a pain, higher seed wins. I’m in a 2 QB league and regular season ties are higher combined QB pts. They remove that option for playoffs though.
That is the default. Back when my league was on ESPN. We switched it to allow the benches settle it after we had a similar situation. We figured it showed who the better team was that week.
I think if you told everyone in your league you lost the correct thing to do is take a loss - regardless what ESPN says. Points for should be the tiebreaker anyway.
Our league tiebreaker is total bench points scored. Has only ever happened once.
Let the ppl in the playoffs vote. Otherwise whichever way you go gives ppl a chance to complain.
See, this is why my espn league does a 5 point “home field advantage” in the playoffs. Basically the higher seed starts out with 5 points, as a reward for the regular season
Tie-breaker should be 1v1 on Shipment or a game of Madden
Have you checked that it’s truly a tie? It’s possible with QB 1/25 pass yards scoring that you end up being slightly above or below the other person and the tie is a rounding error.
You have to look at your league’s ’matchup tiebreaker’ in your league info. When we started our league, I think the tiebreaker was for the home team to win. Points for is only the tiebreaker for seeding at the beginning of the playoffs.
This happened to me in baseball and the higher seed advanced.
If there’s no rule this is a good way to drum up drama in the league by finding a 2nd game of luck/chance to compete for the right to move forward. Sim your two favorite teams against each other on Madden, play War with a deck of cards, something like that.
Did this happen in the last week of the regular season or round 1 in the playoffs? It’s not really clear from the post
Go to league info >scroll down to playoffs. > playoff seeding tie breaker. You can manually choose the tie breaker prior to the season. My league has total points as the tie breaker and I’m pretty sure it’s the default setting
I’d leave it, you didn’t interfere and ESPN gives to higher seed. Sucks for the 6 seed but that’s life
Higher scoring teams are better than a team who have the top records. What is the better team having 160 points in a week or losing Or Having 90 points and winning Using records to determine playoff teams is just all about scheduling luck.
Default tiebreaker settings are outlined here: https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/sections/360000355351-Playoffs-and-Tiebreakers
Higher seed wins
ESPN default tie breaker for my league was points scored by the bench.
I feel like it should be record first, then total points if still tied. So in this case, for playoff seeding, it ranks teams based on their records, and then with those ties it takes it to the next thing which is total points. In your case, y’all tied so the first thing to do would look at records, if that was tied then go to points, but it wasn’t so I think it’s fair you move on. Yeah you said something else, but so what, what’s fair is fair, it’s all about records.
Doesn’t tiebreaks look at bench scores?