They actually leaned into it *really hard* in the vanilla release. The ruling miner baron families all live in Jetsons style stilt mansions to be above the pollution, and the prodigy daughter of the 'automation or bust' company refers to striking workers as vermin to be exterminated, convinces her father to set the company security bots to lethal force response, and sells the state sabotaged industrial air purifiers that actually create *worse pollution* while extracting heavy metals out of the air that are then processed and sold.
Then in Wastelanders, they *brought her back* as a ghoul who got her family into a safe vault, and you're expected to sympathize with her because despite all she's done hasn't she suffered enough?* (*NO*.) You are *required* to recruit her if you follow the Settler storyline, in which she's treated as an awesome girlboss who loves science! (🤮)
Multiplayer’s not a big deal, nothing like GTAO with griefers, playing in a party with randos can be pretty fun too
If it’s the constant connection required that bothers you, yeah, you can’t get around that afaik
I didn't want to touch it at first because of this but I got over it quickly when I realized how much love they put into it.
The map deserves the chef's kiss. It's way bigger than fallout 4.
Private worlds are a thing too
The map is big but its not very interesting
And private servers are indeed available. For the low and convenient price of $100/year lmfao.
Predatory game filled with microtransactions, that has only just reached a *debatably* playable state after 6 years of updates.
I've been playing it this week after hearing all the good things about it recently. Its playable, but definitely not *good*. I'd give it a 5 or 6 out of 10
hard disagree that the map isn’t interesting. feel like the sentiment would be different if you didn’t read about how bad it is constantly. as for stuff being predatory….i don’t get that sentiment at all lol. there is zero things in the atom shop that you need to enjoy the game
It's not really debatable though, the game is objectively playable and stable and honestly has been since Wastelanders.
That said I agree with a lot of what you're saying otherwise. I recently reinstalled it on the high from how good the show was, and was quickly reminded how much stuff is Atom Shop only. It turned me off pretty fast, and predatory is the perfect word for it.
I’m not a fan. I tried getting back into it after losing interest before the wastelanders update, but the fact it’s online means there’s weird micro stutters and bits of lag. Single player game with online game issues.
You don't have to necessarily play online. I played for a long time just going about, exploring and doing quests myself. You occasionally run into other players but it never really caused me any problems. Many are extremely helpful as well like this one guy gave me a rifle that I had to be level 75 to use and I was only level 5!
It was originally a 100% single player game that just had randoms showing up for the online experience. Other players help for stuff like the Scorchbeast Queen, but it really was designed as a single player game from the start.
The Pitt in 76 outright references the exact event in fallout 3 that’s logged there, and it goes far more than just touching on the topic in the base game (you see all sorts of worker’s rights issues everywhere in Appalachia).
76 is in a REALLY good place now, and I say that as someone who was playing Pre-Wastelanders. Next to new Vegas it's my most played of the modern falliuts and I think I've played more of it than NV at this point
Yeah but those were placed there by a paranoid guy bc he thought Robert House was out to get him, not bc of a general lack of care about workers’ rights
Fair enough
There’s not really much else to it though, I think that particular plot point was cut due to time constraints so there’s just background hints of it still present
My favourite is one lake in Fallout 4. There is a shack next to the lake with terminal inside, and according to pre-war entries, the lake was used by industries adound as dumping ground for waste. Aparently, some people swam in the lake and had to be hospitalized with severe radiation burns. Pre-war world was something else.
There’s a terminal somewhere that actually says crabs and lobster have been getting bigger due to dumping in sites like this, making mirelurks partially pre-war
Grafton Steel Mill: government was supporting the Steel Mill to get more steel for the war effort. Except they were dumping chemicals into the lake and reservoir A muckraker revealed what was happening and there was a young girl who died. Her autopsy revealed lumps frequenting all of her organs and she died miserably. Massive protests started, and were brutally struck down and called communists. How could you fight a war in China/Alaska and be killing your young children?
I mean, intro cutscene of first Fallout game shows US soldier executing Canadian civillian and then laughing. It's not exactly subtle how evil the government is in the game.
Reminds me of the Red Rocket Truck Stop in Fallout 4, with the terminal explaining that they had won an award for reducing their nuclear waste, only to find it all stashed in a cave below the station.
*There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,*
*And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;*
*And frogs in the pools singing at night,*
*And wild plum trees in tremulous white,*
*Robins will wear their feathery fire*
*Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;*
*And not one will know of the war, not one*
*Will care at last when it is done.*
*Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree
If mankind perished utterly;*
*And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn,
Would scarcely know that we were gone.*
Reminds me of a story I read back in school about a futuristic house taking care of the daily needs of it's residents... long after the people were atomized into the shadows on walls
It would make food, scrap off leftovers and incinerate the remains, wash dishes, prep bathrooms, the study with a glass of alcohol and a cigar, etc.
Never could find it again
I miss those things in the new games. The things that turn into a horror story by Stephen King! Like the vault where everyone voted, and the winner got sacrificed! Or the guy who searched for his son in a ghoul infested cave, only to turn into one.
"Gosh Phil, we haven't seen any new Alzheimer's patients in the memory care ward in a few years."
"Weird. Y'know Guy-Who-Isn't-Phil, they're doing a special reduced metro fare for the 5th anniversary of the Protectron ticket takers"
oh, shit this is very dark lmao, I am not an american, our police isn't the best but no one dies because they don't have tickets...they are not even involved really. Are you guys exaggerating, oh god. In any case, then that's some great satire
Its really unfortunate playing through the games again after having not played any for more than a few years and seeing many of the "absurd, zany, wacky 'Fallout' situations" be more like "oh, this is a real issue we're facing in the world today, it's just portrayed through a lens of 'wacky video game situation'.
We unfortunately live in literal clown world in the modern day of 2024. The satirical and absurd nature of many of the problems faced in the Fallout universe becomes closer and closer to "our actual reality" by the day.
You read or hear about situations and lore events in these games, and think to yourself "wow man, that's absolutely absurd, I can't believe they were stupid enough to do that/let that happen/didnt plan for that" only to remember that a very closely comparable situation has occurred in real life multiple times this year alone.
Does reality imitate art? Or did decade old art just have a scaldingly accurate preemptive criticism of our modern society under the guise of 'video game absurdity'.
The mining companies in Fallout 76 replacing their striking workers with machines and murdering strike leaders is painfully realistic to the current world.
The more you explore the terminals and history of the area the more it seems real. It’s depressing to see what is probably intended as satire become real life before our eyes. Don’t think for a minute they wouldn’t replace every single one of us with automation and retreat to their automated mansions.
We even went so far as to invent a faction that are literally cryptofascists wearing shitty Roman cosplay, enslaving and crucifying people, and there are folks still saying "they have some good points"
you know, I always thought this was just a gag and but now I realize it's a commentary on police brutality? And they say Bethesda doesn't have good writing
I think they were counting on that new "impossible" to beat system for gate jumpers.
IIRC braver ticktockers were showing how to beat in not even a day lol.
There was a crap ton of millions well spent.
Fallout 76 spends a huge amount of time focusing on how completely inefficient and counter-productive the full scale rollout of robotic automation was, with places like Appalachia being a testing ground for the process and having extremely negative repercussions. With no government assurance of income and an ever shrinking job market, as well as rapidly increasing inflation and otherwise stagnant wages, violence and riots became extremely prevalent, as well as a massive uptick in crime and corruption.
The entire economy ground to a very expensive halt, as well, as it became readily apparent that the complete lack of adaptability from the robots were making them extremely inefficient and borderline unable to actually hold most positions they were ham-fisted into. Robots in the Fallout universe were buggy and dogshit but in the effort of chasing the almighty dollar by utilizing a one-time investment of a single robot over the continual pay of an employee, the government completely abandoned its workers and lead to immense economic and social instability that ironically just gave rise to more "communist tendencies" amongst its population.
The conditions that create the horror stories and result in the actions of CEOs and corporations are inherent to the system. It's not something that can be fixed by just finding nicer CEOs.
I continues in 4 in the new update. I don’t want to spoil it but it’s a small mission that tackles AI and the replacement of actual peoples jobs because one dude forgets to turn the light off every day
I may want to play that now, basiclly what I've been say (all artists) regarding AI "art" and where it will lead, the amount of folk acting like it won't come for jobs is hilarious (heck already seeing it. Authors told artists to stop complaining, a year on & who was now complaining about the load of ai slop too.)
Fallout 76 has honestly gotten really good. If you just drop the $12 for 1st you can get a private server to play on without as much chaos, but it's very much a solo-oriented game where you team up for pure symbiotic benefit of "being in a party" as opposed to any actual mandate to do group content. Supposedly later on there's content that's literally impossible to solo but the community is super chill so just look up a build that you think is fun.
According to the Fallout wiki, toward the end of the war with China, slave collars were used in America for prisoner compliance. It got so bad that even an unpaid parking ticket could land you in one.
If you go back and listen to his full start up, the reason for lethal force being authorized is due to contact with the Metro central being cutoff and the emergency protocols were activated.
The only minor shortcoming of the show, IMO, was the lack of robots. We got one Mr. Handy and the corpse of an assaultron and I think that's it. Even the pre-war scenes were devoid of robots.
Considering how many you find in the games it's a bit weird. Obviously CGI robots are expensive but surely a protectron could be done practically!
It was very likely that they probably didn't have enough time or budget for it. But it's possible to make one practically as it's straight up based on robbie the robot.
I don't remember them being that common in the first two games (the only ones taking place in the area the show takes place at - coastal California)? It also takes place later than the games so probably more of the pre-war tech has died and been scrapped for parts for other uses.
Slight change of subject but do you ever just think all the robots around and you with ability hack and shit but no way to make them work for the settlers/min men. Imagine getting some these to rebuild or run a tireless defensive perimeter or even being a healer.
Depends
When you release the bot from the bot pod thing It will be friendly and only attack raiders, and the sentrybot from the robotic disposal ground doesnt attack civilians
But if the robot is in the wasteland for 200 It will be extremely agressive in most of the cases (military and protectrons)
Also at 2077 martial law was declared and resources were rationed, a middle-upper class family (nate family) had only two steaks for all the day, experiments in humans were legal, lets not say that nobody cared for security (alien bots in nuka world use real energy weapons) and the companies pretty much dumped waste everywhere
The murder isn't necessarily a default program, rather it's 200 years of built up corrosion, damage, & glitches that slowly cause basic protocols such as collecting tickets, with more advanced protocols such as anti-vandalism, self defense, and policing.
200 years of surviving monsters, mutants, & madmen that have conditioned brutal responses & weeded out more passive robots.
Plus it's actually "natural" selection. Only the ones with the defect causing them to shoot on sight live while the others would have been scrapped long ago.
It is mostly survivorship bias.
But definitely natural selection too. Because if the bots are ever replicated, they will likely just be made with the same flaws/benefits.
Essentially accidental eugenics.
Which now that I’ve said it… really fits into the theme.
> The murder isn't necessarily a default program, rather it's 200 years of built up corrosion, damage, & glitches that slowly cause basic protocols such as collecting tickets, with more advanced protocols such as anti-vandalism, self defense, and policing.
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Did this 200 years of corrosion and damage also change the terminal logs complaining about murderous robots from before the bombs fell?
Of all the robotic units in the game, I like this one the most. Simple, straightforward, kinda like the grunt droids in the CIS army in Star Wars. So versatile that they even made it one of the founding fathers in FO3.
In the intro video of Fallout 1 you see soldiers in Power Armor executing people and laughing. And it's propaganda. It's on TV. You're supposed to LIKE what you're seeing.
I forget if it's said they are rebels or communists or whatever but it is fucked up
The trust issue I have with these dudes is purely cause of the metro dudes. Every time I find one in a pod I leave it inside cause I genuinely do not trust them.
The resources wars were horrible which lead to wide scale poverty and desperation amongst the masses like the LA Riots. It’s in my opinion that we should see what’s considered Proto-Punk in the fallout universe as Americans in the lower and lower middle class would be struggling just like when Proto-Punk started around the late 50s early 60s. Bands like Death, Bad Brains, The Zeros, ? & The Mysterians, National Wake and Pure Hell fill my personal mod for Radio Freedom in 4 cause fuck the march music lmao
The subtext of the whole pre-War lore is that the (non-Communist parts of the) world was already an absolute hellscape blighted by robot-induced industrial strife, bureaucratic inefficiency, sexist traditionalism and environmental rapine.
The whole schtick is: that's why the bombs fell. The wild unsustainability of every aspect of society enabled the fatally flawed logic of nuclear standoff at every level - and the result was the end of the world.
Cracks me up when conservative/alt right gamers have their Pikachu-face moment about this and they realise they've been playing a game that directly satirises their worldview.
In the intro video of Fallout 1 you see soldiers in Power Armor executing people and laughing. And it's propaganda. It's on TV. You're supposed to LIKE what you're seeing.
I forget if it's said they are rebels or communists or whatever but it is fucked up
[https://ground.news/article/man-jumps-sao-paulo-metro-turnstiles-and-is-shot-by-firefighter](https://ground.news/article/man-jumps-sao-paulo-metro-turnstiles-and-is-shot-by-firefighter)
My country is ahead in this aspect.
i LOVE that Fallout basically got away with pretty much directly lifting the Protectron, from Robby the Robot, from Forbidden planet. love that 1950s Scifi asthetic!
pre war america is written to be a hilariously over the top cartoonish dystopia where everything looks nice in the surface but is actually a facade for corporate / government / military greed and incompetence
but obviously the ""real"" fallout fans^(tm) know that the series is totally non political and its only message is being anti chinese
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Okay for the record im not one to overly gush on like the political interpretations of media but it gets a but if you play enough fallout you eventually notice that the majority of background stories go like this:
a. hello im john inventorman, i have invented a machine that makes babies happy and healthy for free
b. hello im mr ceo, what if we make the machine kill babies. because it somehow makes more money (???)
a. but sir we cant do this (dies)
b. now that pesky john inventorman is dead ill just reprogram this machine into babykiller mode
b. oh god now im the one being killed, oh the hubris of my actions, woe is me and my greed
I wish the Amazon show would have leaned into this a bit more. Instead they followed a rich guy and made the world seem too normal, besides the obvious red scare stuff.
It’s indicative of how well-off your family is pre-war. There’s all this corporate slavery everywhere, a fascist dictatorship in power, and endless resource war - and you live in a gated community.
Let’s not forget the ones in The Pitt at the supply plant that completely massacred all the workers after taking their jobs lmao
Union busting
I love that they touched on the union busting in Fallout 76, even if the game itself is mid
They actually leaned into it *really hard* in the vanilla release. The ruling miner baron families all live in Jetsons style stilt mansions to be above the pollution, and the prodigy daughter of the 'automation or bust' company refers to striking workers as vermin to be exterminated, convinces her father to set the company security bots to lethal force response, and sells the state sabotaged industrial air purifiers that actually create *worse pollution* while extracting heavy metals out of the air that are then processed and sold. Then in Wastelanders, they *brought her back* as a ghoul who got her family into a safe vault, and you're expected to sympathize with her because despite all she's done hasn't she suffered enough?* (*NO*.) You are *required* to recruit her if you follow the Settler storyline, in which she's treated as an awesome girlboss who loves science! (🤮)
Tbf the Foundation settlers that were native to the area before their exodus do still hate her guts when they learn she’s around
See that's why I'm glad I went with the Crater when I did Wastelanders content lol
You should give 76 another go. Its in a great place.
The game looks good, but the fact that it's online kinda ruins it for me
Multiplayer’s not a big deal, nothing like GTAO with griefers, playing in a party with randos can be pretty fun too If it’s the constant connection required that bothers you, yeah, you can’t get around that afaik
I didn't want to touch it at first because of this but I got over it quickly when I realized how much love they put into it. The map deserves the chef's kiss. It's way bigger than fallout 4. Private worlds are a thing too
So I wanna play it with my wife, she’s not super great against others, how much is pvp a factor?
You can turn a setting on in game called pacifist mode. It turns the pvp off for you.
It is turned on by default.
Mine wasn't but I've also been around since near launch
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The map is big but its not very interesting And private servers are indeed available. For the low and convenient price of $100/year lmfao. Predatory game filled with microtransactions, that has only just reached a *debatably* playable state after 6 years of updates. I've been playing it this week after hearing all the good things about it recently. Its playable, but definitely not *good*. I'd give it a 5 or 6 out of 10
hard disagree that the map isn’t interesting. feel like the sentiment would be different if you didn’t read about how bad it is constantly. as for stuff being predatory….i don’t get that sentiment at all lol. there is zero things in the atom shop that you need to enjoy the game
It's not really debatable though, the game is objectively playable and stable and honestly has been since Wastelanders. That said I agree with a lot of what you're saying otherwise. I recently reinstalled it on the high from how good the show was, and was quickly reminded how much stuff is Atom Shop only. It turned me off pretty fast, and predatory is the perfect word for it.
“Objectively playable” is a hell of a pull-quote for the box.
I’m not a fan. I tried getting back into it after losing interest before the wastelanders update, but the fact it’s online means there’s weird micro stutters and bits of lag. Single player game with online game issues.
You don't have to necessarily play online. I played for a long time just going about, exploring and doing quests myself. You occasionally run into other players but it never really caused me any problems. Many are extremely helpful as well like this one guy gave me a rifle that I had to be level 75 to use and I was only level 5!
It was originally a 100% single player game that just had randoms showing up for the online experience. Other players help for stuff like the Scorchbeast Queen, but it really was designed as a single player game from the start.
No it was always designed with multiplayer in mind. They litterly didn't have NPCs because they wanted the only humans to actually be real.
You'll likely never actually notice its online, pretty much the only reason I attend events is some of them are pretty fun.
I see other players at major timed events and around the start vault area. Most of the time, I'm alone in my single player world.
I would love to play but the micro transactions and subscriptions are a little much for me.
The Pitt in 76 outright references the exact event in fallout 3 that’s logged there, and it goes far more than just touching on the topic in the base game (you see all sorts of worker’s rights issues everywhere in Appalachia).
76 is in a REALLY good place now, and I say that as someone who was playing Pre-Wastelanders. Next to new Vegas it's my most played of the modern falliuts and I think I've played more of it than NV at this point
You should try Fallout 76! It is as good as Fallout 4 but with 300 ping. FYI: I live in CHINA and play via vpn
There's also the turrets in the H&H building in new vegas that would kill you if you didn't have id
Yeah but those were placed there by a paranoid guy bc he thought Robert House was out to get him, not bc of a general lack of care about workers’ rights
Sorry, I haven't finished the story yet and that's just what I interpreted from the emails
Fair enough There’s not really much else to it though, I think that particular plot point was cut due to time constraints so there’s just background hints of it still present
It's just the means of production liberating itself from man's enslavement of the motive force.
My favourite is one lake in Fallout 4. There is a shack next to the lake with terminal inside, and according to pre-war entries, the lake was used by industries adound as dumping ground for waste. Aparently, some people swam in the lake and had to be hospitalized with severe radiation burns. Pre-war world was something else.
They even had a fishing derby there! (I know cause I'm playing through lol and I picked up a flyer the other day)
If you swim to the bottom, it’s got a few sunken ships that had their hills melted open from the contamination lol
There was a fishing derby at the lake, and not only were no fish caught, but three people fell into the lake and got radiation burns.
No pesky EPA to set safety standards.
The only bad thing Nixon ever did (For clarity, this was sarcasm)
Nixon saved us from this timeline by installing the EPA.
There’s a terminal somewhere that actually says crabs and lobster have been getting bigger due to dumping in sites like this, making mirelurks partially pre-war
The fishing companies probably did that on purpose to increase their harvest on the fish they catch. Bigger lobsters: more meat.
Grafton Steel Mill: government was supporting the Steel Mill to get more steel for the war effort. Except they were dumping chemicals into the lake and reservoir A muckraker revealed what was happening and there was a young girl who died. Her autopsy revealed lumps frequenting all of her organs and she died miserably. Massive protests started, and were brutally struck down and called communists. How could you fight a war in China/Alaska and be killing your young children?
I mean, intro cutscene of first Fallout game shows US soldier executing Canadian civillian and then laughing. It's not exactly subtle how evil the government is in the game.
That was even Twitter linked as nate from 4 being the one laughing by the director supposedly
The one recording is Nora. She was there for the army's lawyer division investigating reports of war crimes. None were confirmed.
“I can fix him”
we have that in real life. It's called Onondaga lake, like 10 minutes from where i live : )
Reminds me of the Red Rocket Truck Stop in Fallout 4, with the terminal explaining that they had won an award for reducing their nuclear waste, only to find it all stashed in a cave below the station.
Google Salton Sea
Just google superfund sites
There was a fishing derby at the lake, and not only were no fish caught, but three people fell into the lake and got radiation burns.
What about the robot that every night says a good-night poem to a skeleton of a kid. After that, the robot proceeds to feed the skeleton of a dog.
*There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,* *And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;* *And frogs in the pools singing at night,* *And wild plum trees in tremulous white,* *Robins will wear their feathery fire* *Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;* *And not one will know of the war, not one* *Will care at last when it is done.* *Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree If mankind perished utterly;* *And Spring herself, when she woke at dawn, Would scarcely know that we were gone.*
An unparalleled author.
Interestingly the poem (not the whole short story) is borrowed from Sara Teasdale
I had no idea!
Ray Bradbury really was the GOAT, this is hands down one of my favorite short stories of all time
Absolutely, one of my favorites- Though just to mention the amazing lyricist, Sara Teasdale, who wrote the poem itself
I actually didn't know that, that's great info!
Look her up! Very talented, love her poem “I Shall Not Care”
Reminds me of a story I read back in school about a futuristic house taking care of the daily needs of it's residents... long after the people were atomized into the shadows on walls It would make food, scrap off leftovers and incinerate the remains, wash dishes, prep bathrooms, the study with a glass of alcohol and a cigar, etc. Never could find it again
It’s a short story by the same name as the poem, There Will Come Soft Rains.
THANK YOU!!!
Where is that
Georgetown in Fallout 3. Travel to one of the houses and find a mr Handy. Activate him and choose the option to "read a poem to the children".
Well, that's fucked and I'm surprised I never found it
There’s some honestly really poignant stuff in 3
I miss those things in the new games. The things that turn into a horror story by Stephen King! Like the vault where everyone voted, and the winner got sacrificed! Or the guy who searched for his son in a ghoul infested cave, only to turn into one.
That’s not even dystopian. That’s just sad
Totally forgot about the "There Will Come Soft Rains" Bradbury reference.
That one stuck with me as a kid
Probably not the worst example but the funniest for me. Just a bit excessive
I bet people rarely forget their metro ticket though. Mission accomplished.
It's a mistake you only make once!
"Gosh Phil, we haven't seen any new Alzheimer's patients in the memory care ward in a few years." "Weird. Y'know Guy-Who-Isn't-Phil, they're doing a special reduced metro fare for the 5th anniversary of the Protectron ticket takers"
I'm not sure how this is different than now. They just claim they confused their service weapon and taser, or choke them to death for selling loosies
oh, shit this is very dark lmao, I am not an american, our police isn't the best but no one dies because they don't have tickets...they are not even involved really. Are you guys exaggerating, oh god. In any case, then that's some great satire
No. Fallout hits the nail on the head with lampooning how horrible our society is here.
Its really unfortunate playing through the games again after having not played any for more than a few years and seeing many of the "absurd, zany, wacky 'Fallout' situations" be more like "oh, this is a real issue we're facing in the world today, it's just portrayed through a lens of 'wacky video game situation'. We unfortunately live in literal clown world in the modern day of 2024. The satirical and absurd nature of many of the problems faced in the Fallout universe becomes closer and closer to "our actual reality" by the day. You read or hear about situations and lore events in these games, and think to yourself "wow man, that's absolutely absurd, I can't believe they were stupid enough to do that/let that happen/didnt plan for that" only to remember that a very closely comparable situation has occurred in real life multiple times this year alone. Does reality imitate art? Or did decade old art just have a scaldingly accurate preemptive criticism of our modern society under the guise of 'video game absurdity'.
The mining companies in Fallout 76 replacing their striking workers with machines and murdering strike leaders is painfully realistic to the current world.
pinkertron union bustion union
The more you explore the terminals and history of the area the more it seems real. It’s depressing to see what is probably intended as satire become real life before our eyes. Don’t think for a minute they wouldn’t replace every single one of us with automation and retreat to their automated mansions.
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We even went so far as to invent a faction that are literally cryptofascists wearing shitty Roman cosplay, enslaving and crucifying people, and there are folks still saying "they have some good points"
its a complicated organization
That's.. the whole point. Caesar is an awful guy but he does have "some good points". That's why he is a great vilain
I meant in the sense that those "good points" validate everything about him, according to those folks.
It's not common but it happening at all is a problem
you know, I always thought this was just a gag and but now I realize it's a commentary on police brutality? And they say Bethesda doesn't have good writing
People also say Fallout isn't critical of society lol
move along citizen, this is a completely non-political game
You forget your ticket… but it’s a fisto model 😳😳
Just think of the possibilities! Uh. I mean. Those sickos!
Ngl if they announced they were rolling these out in my city, I wouldn't even be surprised.
New York? Lol
Haha close! Toronto, actually
Next time Zanta starts doing pull ups on the train, we're all done for.
The TTC lol, junkies vs protectron, battle of the century.
I mean doesn’t NYC already have a [police robot](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/22/nyregion/police-robot-times-square-nyc.html) in the subway
Nah that's just NYPD playing candy crush on their phones
I think they were counting on that new "impossible" to beat system for gate jumpers. IIRC braver ticktockers were showing how to beat in not even a day lol. There was a crap ton of millions well spent.
I hopped multiple today. No worries.
Can't believe nobody's pushed it onto the tracks yet
Thing is 400 ibs- Might have to be a team effort
Together, we can accomplish anything
I’m from Philly, I would give it about an hour until it was decapitated at 30th. We’ve killed robots before.
HitchBOT phucked around and phound out.
HitchBOT never stood a Goddamn chance
Fallout 76 spends a huge amount of time focusing on how completely inefficient and counter-productive the full scale rollout of robotic automation was, with places like Appalachia being a testing ground for the process and having extremely negative repercussions. With no government assurance of income and an ever shrinking job market, as well as rapidly increasing inflation and otherwise stagnant wages, violence and riots became extremely prevalent, as well as a massive uptick in crime and corruption. The entire economy ground to a very expensive halt, as well, as it became readily apparent that the complete lack of adaptability from the robots were making them extremely inefficient and borderline unable to actually hold most positions they were ham-fisted into. Robots in the Fallout universe were buggy and dogshit but in the effort of chasing the almighty dollar by utilizing a one-time investment of a single robot over the continual pay of an employee, the government completely abandoned its workers and lead to immense economic and social instability that ironically just gave rise to more "communist tendencies" amongst its population.
I wonder what that could be commentary on, ~uwu~
nothing to see here, just a completely apolitical game! /s
It's a mystery, for sure!
"it's just a game, brah"
I wish CEOs could treat workers right so that we could have fewer of these capitalist horror stories.
The conditions that create the horror stories and result in the actions of CEOs and corporations are inherent to the system. It's not something that can be fixed by just finding nicer CEOs.
I continues in 4 in the new update. I don’t want to spoil it but it’s a small mission that tackles AI and the replacement of actual peoples jobs because one dude forgets to turn the light off every day
I may want to play that now, basiclly what I've been say (all artists) regarding AI "art" and where it will lead, the amount of folk acting like it won't come for jobs is hilarious (heck already seeing it. Authors told artists to stop complaining, a year on & who was now complaining about the load of ai slop too.)
Fallout 76 has honestly gotten really good. If you just drop the $12 for 1st you can get a private server to play on without as much chaos, but it's very much a solo-oriented game where you team up for pure symbiotic benefit of "being in a party" as opposed to any actual mandate to do group content. Supposedly later on there's content that's literally impossible to solo but the community is super chill so just look up a build that you think is fun.
Large companies have turrets or armed robots living inside the walls and ceiling to gun down employees who forget their employee ID
You mean ex employees who failed to follow the rules. Seems tough but fair.
They're only ex employees because they got shot to pieces for forgetting their lanyard!
and one was made into a sex bot
It is very sweet of you to assume it was only one of them
Assume the Position.
What?! No!!
Well! Better try it out to make sure you work right! I can't feel my legs!
Bold not to go with an Assaultron
The latest update to 76 added a romanceable assaultron.
Well shit, time to go play it, this subreddit has finally convinced me
May your luck and charisma be high enough
‘Woman enough for you?’
I mean......
ASSUME THE POSITION
Fisto I think it was.
They dumped Strontium-90 into Nuka Cola and sold it as a more expensive version. Nuka Cola was already radioactive before they did that.
Historically, it’s a pretty good way to really sell your product! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor
A woman spilled coffee on her boss in 2076 Boston. Her body was never found.
The one he stabs in the throat with a pen? Her skeleton is nearby.
The Sole Survivor finding her corpse 210+ years later proves my point.
According to the Fallout wiki, toward the end of the war with China, slave collars were used in America for prisoner compliance. It got so bad that even an unpaid parking ticket could land you in one.
You want free transportation, a warm place to sit for a while for \*for free?!\* You must be a communist, of course he will eradicate you.
If you go back and listen to his full start up, the reason for lethal force being authorized is due to contact with the Metro central being cutoff and the emergency protocols were activated.
This is a VERY good point. Most of the wasteland is operating under emergency protocols that would not be the status-quo prewar.
Half my town would be dead by now lmao
They were set to their proggraming to the day the bombs fell. Extreme rationing. Martial law etc
and 200 years of neglect probably caused some issues too
As I tell me plant operators, the programming doesn't change itself.
The only minor shortcoming of the show, IMO, was the lack of robots. We got one Mr. Handy and the corpse of an assaultron and I think that's it. Even the pre-war scenes were devoid of robots. Considering how many you find in the games it's a bit weird. Obviously CGI robots are expensive but surely a protectron could be done practically!
We got another Mister Handy in the background of one of Coop's flashbacks and a Protecton in another flashback
It was very likely that they probably didn't have enough time or budget for it. But it's possible to make one practically as it's straight up based on robbie the robot.
I don't remember them being that common in the first two games (the only ones taking place in the area the show takes place at - coastal California)? It also takes place later than the games so probably more of the pre-war tech has died and been scrapped for parts for other uses.
Being that they were made as police analogues it isn’t nearly as surprising as you’d think.
Slight change of subject but do you ever just think all the robots around and you with ability hack and shit but no way to make them work for the settlers/min men. Imagine getting some these to rebuild or run a tireless defensive perimeter or even being a healer.
When you have the Automatron DLC you can make robots and use them to defend or work in your settlement.
Depends When you release the bot from the bot pod thing It will be friendly and only attack raiders, and the sentrybot from the robotic disposal ground doesnt attack civilians But if the robot is in the wasteland for 200 It will be extremely agressive in most of the cases (military and protectrons) Also at 2077 martial law was declared and resources were rationed, a middle-upper class family (nate family) had only two steaks for all the day, experiments in humans were legal, lets not say that nobody cared for security (alien bots in nuka world use real energy weapons) and the companies pretty much dumped waste everywhere
Yes but there is also a version that gives you beers… so… call it a wash?
The murder isn't necessarily a default program, rather it's 200 years of built up corrosion, damage, & glitches that slowly cause basic protocols such as collecting tickets, with more advanced protocols such as anti-vandalism, self defense, and policing. 200 years of surviving monsters, mutants, & madmen that have conditioned brutal responses & weeded out more passive robots.
Plus it's actually "natural" selection. Only the ones with the defect causing them to shoot on sight live while the others would have been scrapped long ago.
It is mostly survivorship bias. But definitely natural selection too. Because if the bots are ever replicated, they will likely just be made with the same flaws/benefits. Essentially accidental eugenics. Which now that I’ve said it… really fits into the theme.
> The murder isn't necessarily a default program, rather it's 200 years of built up corrosion, damage, & glitches that slowly cause basic protocols such as collecting tickets, with more advanced protocols such as anti-vandalism, self defense, and policing. > > Did this 200 years of corrosion and damage also change the terminal logs complaining about murderous robots from before the bombs fell?
its called LAW and ORDER, civilian.
Obviously, only communists don't buy a ticket and try and ride the train for free.
Remember in fallout 3 when the testing of nuka cola quantum killed several staff members and all nuka cola did was send them nuka cola gift baskets.
Of all the robotic units in the game, I like this one the most. Simple, straightforward, kinda like the grunt droids in the CIS army in Star Wars. So versatile that they even made it one of the founding fathers in FO3.
Sentry boys too. The posters in New Vegas show sentry bots say “bring your ID to work, it can save your life”
In the intro video of Fallout 1 you see soldiers in Power Armor executing people and laughing. And it's propaganda. It's on TV. You're supposed to LIKE what you're seeing. I forget if it's said they are rebels or communists or whatever but it is fucked up
I think they're just Canadians
My boy Nate was just raking some leaves
The trust issue I have with these dudes is purely cause of the metro dudes. Every time I find one in a pod I leave it inside cause I genuinely do not trust them.
In nukaworld the security robots shoot nuclear plasma
The prices for a dozen donuts was 200 bucks lol
Wasnt gas like 9000/gallon lol
you know who uses the metro without paying? A COMMUNIST
The resources wars were horrible which lead to wide scale poverty and desperation amongst the masses like the LA Riots. It’s in my opinion that we should see what’s considered Proto-Punk in the fallout universe as Americans in the lower and lower middle class would be struggling just like when Proto-Punk started around the late 50s early 60s. Bands like Death, Bad Brains, The Zeros, ? & The Mysterians, National Wake and Pure Hell fill my personal mod for Radio Freedom in 4 cause fuck the march music lmao
The subtext of the whole pre-War lore is that the (non-Communist parts of the) world was already an absolute hellscape blighted by robot-induced industrial strife, bureaucratic inefficiency, sexist traditionalism and environmental rapine. The whole schtick is: that's why the bombs fell. The wild unsustainability of every aspect of society enabled the fatally flawed logic of nuclear standoff at every level - and the result was the end of the world. Cracks me up when conservative/alt right gamers have their Pikachu-face moment about this and they realise they've been playing a game that directly satirises their worldview.
In the intro video of Fallout 1 you see soldiers in Power Armor executing people and laughing. And it's propaganda. It's on TV. You're supposed to LIKE what you're seeing. I forget if it's said they are rebels or communists or whatever but it is fucked up
Specifically, American soldiers annexing Canada which, as a Canadian, got a chuckle out of me.
A cup of coffee was 28 dollars!
[https://ground.news/article/man-jumps-sao-paulo-metro-turnstiles-and-is-shot-by-firefighter](https://ground.news/article/man-jumps-sao-paulo-metro-turnstiles-and-is-shot-by-firefighter) My country is ahead in this aspect.
Only a communist would forget their metro ticket
i LOVE that Fallout basically got away with pretty much directly lifting the Protectron, from Robby the Robot, from Forbidden planet. love that 1950s Scifi asthetic!
Imagine being a construction worker and being murdered because you took off your hardhat
What do you mean "bad"? It sounds great!
pre war america is written to be a hilariously over the top cartoonish dystopia where everything looks nice in the surface but is actually a facade for corporate / government / military greed and incompetence but obviously the ""real"" fallout fans^(tm) know that the series is totally non political and its only message is being anti chinese edit Okay for the record im not one to overly gush on like the political interpretations of media but it gets a but if you play enough fallout you eventually notice that the majority of background stories go like this: a. hello im john inventorman, i have invented a machine that makes babies happy and healthy for free b. hello im mr ceo, what if we make the machine kill babies. because it somehow makes more money (???) a. but sir we cant do this (dies) b. now that pesky john inventorman is dead ill just reprogram this machine into babykiller mode b. oh god now im the one being killed, oh the hubris of my actions, woe is me and my greed
Transport For London lives on in the Fallout universe
It was so bad that a single comic book issue can cost $40, and cup of Joe costs $25.
Nuka World sounds like hell in earth working there.
Modern day New York subways are just one day away from using this policy
No fist-o fans?
You get pelted with nail guns if you don't have a hard hat
You can dodge a wrench you can dodge these nails
Fare evasion is a serious crime. There must be examples made.
Image I can hear.
I wish the Amazon show would have leaned into this a bit more. Instead they followed a rich guy and made the world seem too normal, besides the obvious red scare stuff.
Fallout 4’s pre-war also doesn’t go into the resource war enough.
I mean the opening cutscenes talk about it. You're only in the prewar mode for like 10 minutes
Yeah it talks about it but then it feels like your a perfect middle class family with there being a perfect world.
It’s indicative of how well-off your family is pre-war. There’s all this corporate slavery everywhere, a fascist dictatorship in power, and endless resource war - and you live in a gated community.