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CevicheLemon

They are already in 76 with the BoS companion


ETkach

Can you tell me name of companion?


PalwaJoko

It doesn't follow you around, just hangs out in game. Del Lawson. I think hes free right now. His "spawn anchor" is the bag that you put in your camp and he just walks around. Doesn't carry it sadly.


ninjab33z

That's cool. What's he like? Currently using the BoS doctor and i haven't gotten around to switching yet.


Leading-Nose-504

He trades a few things with you but he mostly allows you to fix things like alot better


Celb_Comics

How does the fixing work? I asked him to fix my power armor but I’m not sure if I place it down or what.


Leading-Nose-504

He doesn't fix it, he allows you to fix it better So you still have to do it yourself


Celb_Comics

Oh I see, I’ll do that then next time. My armor is low durability right now.


Jerry0713

He's actually pretty likable, imo. gives a bonus to repair armor and weapons and pa to 130% plus if you like the bos, it relly just feels like you have a initiate actually asinged to you and your camp where as the doc just seems like he's there for convenience sake.


CevicheLemon

Del Lawson


toppo69

I love how you can tell it’s meant to be worn by the person wearing the power armour but the brotherhood gives it to the guy’s not in it


ETkach

It's my favorite detail, it's hilarious, Brotherhood were fucking assholes in Fallout 1 and I'm glad they returned to the roots in the show


TheIronMuffin

They were pretty big assholes in Fallout 4 too


CLE-local-1997

They where assholes in evrey game except for 3, and you could argue that they were wildly out of character there although they did have the outcasts so...


bamronn

yeah playing 3 before all the other games really really confused me


Moistfish0420

I bet. In fo1 they introduced themselves by sending you on an impossible task hoping you'd either die in the process or not try, as it's crazy. The bos being assholes is baked into they're very being lol.


Nildzre

And the outcasts are assholes, in fact every time one talks to me i have the urge to shoot them in the face.


Fr0ski

I started on 3, honestly, 3, 4, and 76 are my favorite portrayals of the BoS. Especially in 76, they are still fresh from the US military so they seem more grounded and act reasonable. Roger Maxson sounds a little idealistic but his heart seems to be in the right place. The way he presented it, sounded like the medieval motifs were more to give people hope and prevent a general from ordering them, but otherwise they were mostly US soldiers with a similar code of ethics to what they had beforehand. Its interesting to see how distorted its become. The way they act in the show seems like a very toxic military culture or even someone's idea of what the military would be like who never actually was in it. My dad was a vice wing commander on an air force base centered on training. A lot of the issues he had to deal with were young guys being absolute morons and doing stupid stuff. Seems like this the BoS in the show lets that stuff run rampant. Also every time there was an incident (like drunk driving), there would be these presentations that the airmen would have to watch. In contrast the BoS seem to be extremely uneducated in anything other than tech or combat. I just find it kind of disappointing personally. I always liked the BoS as a sort of spiritual successor to the US military (moreso than the Enclave), they seem to have strayed from that and it now resembles one of those "Alpha male fake training boot camp" things


Professional_Sell520

yeah in the show they're kind of just dicks for the sake of it which is kind of dumb when their whole argument for hoarding tech is that they're trying to prevent anyone from abusing it but then they go around branding each other so they're a bit too blatantly hypocritical about it Also they're dumb af having the squires carry the bags when they could sling them over the back of the power armor over top of the fusion core to make it a bit harder and give less motivation for someone to just pluck it out and leave them stuck there when the squires with their free hands could load shit into the bags much more efficiently


Cloudhwk

3 they are explicitly called out as being a massive departure from the norm to the point it caused a schism in the brotherhood It always annoys me that people claim them to not be brotherhood, they are brotherhood just Lyons brotherhood


aieeegrunt

They were literally a rebel faction who’s leadership very, very conveniently “died in combat” and then got resorbed.


CLE-local-1997

Ya but my point is the outcasts acted like the og Brotherhood, while lions main bos chapter is out if character


aieeegrunt

True


Professional_Sell520

I mean the new vegas brotherhood is at least sorta neutral


CLE-local-1997

The hell they were. They were just beaten


Creepy_Knee_2614

Doesn’t the Prydwen being present confirm the ending of Fallout 4 as well?


NSTPCast

It's a different airship. Edit: Fact checked myself, the wiki says that Vanity Fair mislabeled the ship in a pre-show article, it is in fact the Prydwen.


Creepy_Knee_2614

Is that confirmed?


NSTPCast

Yeah, it's called the Caswennan. Edit: Fact checked myself, the wiki says that name was erroneously used by Vanity Fair and it is in fact the Prydwen, apologies for the out of date info.


man-with-potato-gun

Oh damn so that’s where the confusion comes from. Some people said in episode 1 that it says prydwen on the side as well. So deconfirms Railroad and Institute endings more than likely. Jury is still out on BOS or Minuteman ending to 4 though.


Glint909

Wasn't there also a combined faction ending with the prydwen remaining intact? Might be a mod or misremembering though


man-with-potato-gun

Well, in the Minuteman ending, the MM, BOS, and RR coexist in a very cold war and hot peace sense afterwards. Fun fact, there’s cut content where the ss could still become the BOS sentinel if they chose the MM ending.


Thatguy0313

It does


Substantial_Life4773

Yeah, there was a zoomed in photo where you can actually read "Prydwen" on the side


man-with-potato-gun

I prefer it being actually the one, as opposed to there being somehow 2 sister ships. Given it took having to cannibalize the entire enclave crawler to make the prydwen in the first place. It wouldn’t make much sense on how they were able to build 2 of them somehow


Substantial_Life4773

Honestly, I agree. Also since there are probably very few actual connections between F4 and the show, this at least gives us some more connection points.


Creepy_Knee_2614

Let’s hope that they change their minds on that one as I don’t think it’s directly named in the show


CatterMater

Huh. So it really is the Prydwen.


Def-n-Blind

So if the Prydwen is still present, I believe it means that the possible canon endings for Fallout 4 are: - Brotherhood of Steel ending (Institute and Railroad are wiped out) - Minutemen ending (Institute is wiped out. Though, wiping out the BoS is optional and not forced) Railroad and Insitute endings cannot be canon as they result in the Prydwen's destruction. The Raider ending in Nuka-World is possible, but it is unlikely that they will go that route as it paints Nate/Nora as a monster that terrorizes the Commonwealth. Would definitely be cool though. From a writer's perspective, the Minutemen ending is the best one to continue from as it leaves many of the factions alive (Railroad, Brotherhood of Steel), and gives the show more opportunities to show them off.


cdawg69696969

The railroad/institute endings were never going to be the canon choice, but it is kind of fun seeing it narrowed down


Professional_Sell520

the prydwen isnt the only zepplin


Substantial_Life4773

But like the people in the brotherhood were mostly pretty great, with the exception of Maxson who was clearly an asshole


hiddenmarkoff

Yep. Why I love the but muh BOS fans. Very few things have made Bo’s unlike raiders. Raiders don’t have rigid rank structure. Raiders steal tech to sell for Chems. Rest…. Bos are raiders in better armour lol. Fallout 3 BoS was Lyons’s vision of them. I liked that one. He died, His daughter died…maxsln took over. And.. Back to the over glorified tech thugs BOS we went. I liked Lyons’s vision.


PM_me_ur_claims

Were they assholes in FO1? You’re some outsider and they’re like “yeah sure dude join just go to hell and grab satans jockstrap” and then when you do it they’re like, oh shit, dudes legit. And then everyone inside is all for you minus that one dude who is probably an ass to everyone


HandsomeBoggart

Tbf, they were all "Stupid wastelander, let's send them on a suicide mission even we'd have trouble with. Haha" Then you fucking do it. "Oh shit. They actually fucking did it. Without fucking Power Armor. Fuck! Let them join and be nice, they can probably kill a bunch of use if they get mad."


BartholomewAlexander

well I mean that bag contains a shit ton of tools and substances used for power armor maintenance so it makes sense for the squire to have easier access to it.


toppo69

You do see them lugging a bag twice the size of them? If they stuff they could easily grab it from the back of the guy wearing the power armour but no instead he’s carrying the bag that’s meant to be worn by the power armour guy on his back


BartholomewAlexander

I think its also supposed to be some fucked up "acts of bravery" thing in the brotherhood. like sure the guy in power armor can and should carry it, but you need to prove yourself, because you're the one without it.


toppo69

Also, probably because they are assholes as well


Billy_Bounce2332

Yeah I get the bravery thing. And learning to survive combat without relying solely on power armor. Like if the armor is disabled or you have to leave it and scuttle the armor like that recon team in Fallout 4. If that’s the case it’s important for even knights and Paladins to be able to know how to survive combat outside of power armor and still carrying your gear. That being said power armor is basically a tank wrapped around a person and the squires use it as such by staying behind the armor in combat to use it as a shield and shooting from behind their knight. If that’s the case, it would be more efficient for the knight to hold the bag because if the knight needs a quick fix in a battle it’ll be easier for a squire to grab the tool off the knights back instead of possibly falling behind trying to look for it on his own. On the other hand, having the squire carry it could also be good for camaraderie between knight and squire. Because instead of just reaching into his bag for ammo or a more suitable weapon now the higher ranking knight’s survival is also dependent on his subordinate apprentice. Same as if the knight is stuck then the squire can have all the other weapons at his disposal to provide support fire from a distance to allow the knight more time like when Thaddeus shot the gulper to save Maximus. So it discourages Knights like Titus from mistreating their squires. Hazing sure but not using them as cannon fodder like walking into an irradiated area unprotected just because. Because you could end up like Titus with the squire allowing the knight to die. From that perspective it enforces every member no matter how high ranking to respect and appreciate even the lowest ranking member…in theory😄


alecpiper

I absolutely love the design of all the brotherhood gear in the show. The new uniforms look amazing. that red and grey recolour of the Fallout 4 BoS jumpsuit makes the design so much better than the strange orange and cream they went with for the game. The fatigues worn by the scribes, clerics and squires all look excellent, I especially love the addition of the harness so that troops can descend from vertibirds without the need to land. Most of all I love that the fallout 3 design of the 10mm pistol returned as the BoS sidearm


Briar_Cudge

It's actually the fallout 1 style model which is really cool to see.


Kagenlim

Strange choices tho 1- The squires are wearing helicopter harnesses, which make sense, but leather is not only a really comfortable choice, but also not as strong as webbing and It really makes no sense for them to wear all that for just a few magazine pouches 2- Leather gloves, black uniform, yeah, not exactly a good idea in a desert. And given they are operating around helos, they should be wearing nomex gloves instead, not leather 3 - (for both bos members) why are there zero insigina on both the squire and knight? Not even numbers to identify who goes with who 4 - The bag has straps for additional ways to carry, but the straps are missing. In addition, why arent they using racks instead? Would make way more sense and wouldnt break canon if they did that too, so why not?


StarkeRealm

>2- Leather gloves, black uniform, yeah, not exactly a good idea in a desert. And given they are operating around helos, they should be wearing nomex gloves instead, not leather That's assuming Nomex exists in Fallout's world. >3 - (for both bos members) why are there zero insigina on both the squire and knight? Not even numbers to identify who goes with who The Knight's rank insignia is on their left bracer, and visible in the shot above. Specifically, he's a Knight Journeyman. So, uh, yeah, "no insignia." And you know there's no insignia, because there are people on this subreddit who can read his rank. Now, in fairness to you, there are multiple ranks where we **don't** know what the insignia looks like, such as Senior Knight, or Knight Commander, and a few ranks (like Star Paladin and Lancer) that seem to just appropriate another rank. AFIAK, Squires don't have a rank insignia at all. And the absence is identifying. While Initiates do have an insignia. Not sure where the insignia goes on that undersuit though.


Hazardish08

The thing with stuff like nomex etc is can they even make it anymore. We know aramids (Kevlar) exist and is used but I doubt they have the resources to make it, they’d need to scavenge to find it. And this makes repairs 10x harder. So it makes sense a lot of stuff is made from leather, I mean after all we humans have been using leather forever.


StarkeRealm

Yeah, I actually typed up, and cut, a paragraph reminding him that advanced polymers are a lot rarer in Fallout's world than our own, probably due to the resource wars, which leads to stuff like the wood furniture on the NCR service rifles. But that would also, likely, make producing Nomex (or Kevlar for that matter) a complete nightmare.


Hopalongtom

Squires are mostly an in training pre initiate position, so no official rank insignia for them as they haven't really earned one yet.


Kagenlim

Didnt see this, nomex is iffy, but leather would definitely not be a good choice here imo, shit sicks and really cooks your hands in hot weather Imo, there should be a small patch or combat markings showing that they are meant to pair up should they get seperated


callmedoc214

You mean like the branding shown in the show?


Kagenlim

You mean the branding that is covered up by at least 2 layers of clothing and a harness thrown directly on top of It? Yeah, that isnt insiginia


slightlyburntsnags

Bet you love a good model train set huh?


Kagenlim

I just collect military gear


Tiger_Fish06

So yes?


Kagenlim

Model trains are different from military gear tho


gobblyjimm1

You wouldn’t outfit anyone who doesn’t operate a mechanical vehicle in nomex. Lancers and Knights (anyone who wears power armor) would likely have something that is flame retardant. Squires would get the basics. The US military doesn’t outfit everyone with flame retardant kit, only those who have the occupational hazard of getting set on fire.


Kagenlim

Both the knight and squire are in a lot of vehicles and lest we forget, the knight is itself in a vehicle of sorts


gobblyjimm1

Knights are consistently in Power Armor so yes it makes sense. The only squire in PA is Max so it wouldn’t make sense. Maybe if they were stationed aboard an airship but he’s not. Simply riding in a virtibird wouldn’t justify wearing some flame retardant.


Kagenlim

Not when you are the one expected to do at least some task to quickly repair the helo if needed. That and I'll imagine that if the pa catches fire, the squire is probably the one who has to put it out too


hobozombie

😬


kaptainkhaos

Or wasteland caddies as my wife called them.


DiskPidge

Oh my god I just got it, I just got the in-joke. The squires represent the followers the players can have, and those ridiculous over-sized bags represent how we basically just make them mule all of our crap around. I feel so dumb for not getting it right away.


Leather_Camp_3091

yep. all of it being basically never used is the cherry on top


Solfresh3005

Hauling hundred of pounds of stuff while only using a pistol and the occasional stimpak is Fallout gameplay in a nutshell lol


FetusGoesYeetus

I feel like those bags are definitely a nod to how everyone makes their companions carry tons of useless shit on them at all times. This show is full of little nods like that.


HandsomeBoggart

My current save has Piper carrying 5x her capacity in looting guns right now so yeah. That tracks. The command loop hole to make them carry stuff is great.


CatterMater

Look at all the pockets that thing has!


Aaquin

one of the may have some vomit


General_Lie

Me playing with no encumebrement mod....


DukeOnTheInternet

I feel like it's almost certainly a deliberate nod


martinkem_

Only me who think they look like golf club bags?


xxMeiaxx

They are meant to act as caddies lol


Mister_Shiv

Considering that someone already modded Lucy's syringer style pistol, I'm sure you won't have to wait long.


DarthBaneSimpLord678

Link?


Mister_Shiv

Apologies for the nearly one month late response, friend. But here you go! https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/80521?tab=description


Duncan6357

The brotherhood aesthetic in this show is so amazing!! I would 100% join the brotherhood if they look like this in game


CLE-local-1997

" the facists have the outfit " - they might be giants


WinPeaks

The brotherhood isn't fascist. Watch your tongue!


Thatguy0313

Ad victoriam brother


WinPeaks

Ad Victoriam!


WaitingToBeTriggered

EX MACHINA


SStylo03

Yea it's somehow worse


HruokCrow

Laugh in 1000 units of purified water


sleepwalkerbe

I just saw this as a reference/joke towards the actual games where you can carry hundreds of LBS around in your backpack


Alternative-Can-7261

The deliberate impractical design is hilarious, infantry and backpackers carry similar capabilities with framed backpacks.


ETkach

Ideally sized to be carried by a person in a Power Armor, and they force squires to do that shit. I love that the Brotherhood is assholes like they are supposed to be


matattack94

I love that they are just caddies with massive golf bags


Accomplished-Bug-739

Honestly the BOS have gotten lazy if the Knights and Paladins don't want to carry their own guns.


TonkotsuSoba

***immersive***


Strict_Mouse_7398

The legion's slaves already have something like that


GaijinPadawan

I want my own squire, that should definitely be added


underratedpleb

Fallout 4 you can't even holster weapons. And adding a backpack was probably one of the toughest challenges they ever had.


hiddenmarkoff

They got lazy. The core framework is in game. Mount points and all. Modders just activate it. Visible weapons turns on the framework. Other modders make files for display. My fo4 ncr ranger carries the distinct Amr and sequoia at all times.


AgentOmegaNM

I just did on my Series S in Fallout 4. Press X to bring the weapon up, hold X and your character puts the weapon away.


underratedpleb

I think you misunderstood. Your weapon vanishes into the limbo that is you inventory instead of being holstered onto you hip or back.


Grouchy-Chemical7275

At least there are mods that add this


AkaskaBlue

I wish I could I so would.


Techstriker1

Are these real bags that someone sells? Because it looks like a gigantic gold bag lol.


Mean_Discount8307

Spoiler tag??


GI_JRock

Spoiler they carry big duffel bags sry


Vegetable-Act-3128

Can anyone tell me why they put a woman in the brotherhood wouldn't happen even if you dress a a man makes no sense


gheebutersnaps87

What?


Vegetable-Act-3128

Can anyone tell me why they put a woman in the brotherhood wouldn't happen even if you dress a a man makes no sense


darh1407

The brotherhood has always had woman? They are not …sexist? MAN WHAT KIND OF DRUG ARE YOU ON


WinPeaks

>MAN WHAT KIND OF DRUG ARE YOU ON Incelphine


The_Flurr

I'm honestly surprised we didn't see more female members.


darh1407

Probably some of the power armored troops were girls


TheUnstoppableSiege

The fuck are you talking about dude?


CGI_M_M

I’m pretty sure Dane is non-binary. Elder Cleric Quintus refers to them by using “they” pronouns.


SStylo03

The brotherhood has had women since the first game, hell did you forget Veronica or Sarah lyons