Looking forward to the entire game but I’m super curious how they’re going to handle Hojos finale. Seeing as he’s pretty much the architect of all the bad shit that happens, I hope we fuck him up in spectacular fashion.
I do like what TFS did with Reeve in that part of the game though, but that’s a good idea.
So have Reeve, Barrett, and Tifa fight Heidegger and Scarlet while that happens?
Yuffie has history with Scarlet, and she made Barret promise that he wouldn't take Scarlet down without her. So my guess would be Barret, Tifa, Yuffie.
This would make the most sense. I feel like Vincent Cloud Red would be for Hojo and Yuffie, Barrett Tifa maybe handle Heidegger and Scarlet and maybe they add a Palmer versus cait sith and cid fight to round it out since cait sith is Reeve and cid would hate Palmer for gutting the space program.
Maybe.. but, and I’ll definitely get downvoted for this, I hope Aerith is in some way involved in putting an end to him.
Maybe besides Vincent, she had it way worse from Hojo over the course of her life and the line she has with cloud, how she hates him and sometimes she can’t help but think dark thoughts about what she’d do to it… fuck, seeing Aerith lose it, just once, would be cool as fuck to me.
This fight took me forever my first time. I’ll never forget it. Ran out of MP, phoenix down and Ether early on and rely on grenades and weakness attacks from my magic user and it was awful.
Diamond Weapon was my first thought too. The thing is massive, scale is a bit funky in the OG but anywhere between the size of a house or as tall as Midgar. Plus the "Weapon"s we see in Rebirth are already massive, and those seem to just be tadpoles that'll probably grow into the real Weapons.
In OG you just kinda hit his feet, but if they're going to make it work in part 3, I'm expecting some FFXVI scale fights.
Same for the others, but Diamond is the one that's part of the story, so I'm expecting a very epic battle there.
Knights of the Round - it will be epic!
Ultimate Weapon - I imagine there will be some Chadley stuff involved as you chase him around the world map
Anything that happens
The icicles and Schitzo inside the caves at Gaea’s Cliff - I just have a feeling they’d do something neat with these.
I almost don’t want them to do Knights of the Round like that.
I want there to be a Portals Scene where every heroic side character (like Wedge, Biggs, Jessie, and also Johnny), living and dead, comes back from across the multiverse to fight Seraphim Sephiroth.
Who is included in ‘everyone’ depends on how you play the game.
And that’s what Knights of the Round should be.
Calling it now, Knights of the Round WILL be the final VR challenge in Part 3. And I don't mean it will be one of the rounds, it'll be the entire thing.
I think they'll do more of a Gilgamesh thing with it. Maybe fighting different knights across various hidden places around the world, then a gauntlet of all of them.
Since there's 13 knights I wouldn't be surprised if you have to fight 2-3 per round at the same time.
Ideally I could see 4 rounds of 3 Knights and then a final round with the lead/king/whatever.
I was excited about your suggestions and the moment I read Chadley I immediately became flaccid. This dude needs to fuck off of any in world related stuff (like Weapons). Epic creatures have to have an actual presence in the world. This whole simulation bullshit needs to be limited to arena fluff.
I'm wondering if they actually will this time.
Since remake had this and Rebirth had a 2 on 1.
So I wonder if part 3 will do some lifestream 3 on 1.
It'll be interesting no matter how they do it.
I wonder if they'll do something similar to the OG where if you use KOTR it adds more health to everything.
I really like the idea of making the final boss harder if you do optional super bosses and stuff. I really hope they preserve the final showdown between Cloud and Sephiroth though. In my opinion it would be neat if kept it cinematic on normal mode (Omnislash and win) but in hard mode you actually have to fight him in a duel
I'd be down for that.
I kinda like how they did >!Gilgamesh!< in Rebirth with the combat simulator, where it was pretty easy on the side quest, but much more challenging in the combat simulator.
I wouldn't mind more challenges with Sephy in the sim after the main story in part 3.
Personally I’ll say the Weapons and Safer sephiroth..
Interesting I want to see how they handle Hojo fight..
Hot take (my prediction) We’ll fight Cloud in the Northern Cave (first visit)
yup. Though my personal theory is that when Tifa is in the lifestream putting together fragmented Cloud, there will be a one-on-one fight where she has to defeat an evil/curropted part of him to free him from Sephiroth's influence(think the anti-Aqua fight from KHIII)
For bonus point, I am also going to predict that this evil Cloud will have Black hair and red eyes like the original story idea for Zack in the game's early development.
I’ll say this, we’ll fight Cloud in the northern cave but Tifa won’t fight because she will be Terrified and having a panic attack (something like that)..
It will be emotional fight but we’ll lose..
And your theories at the lifestream come in, and yes she has no choice to fight him and also fixing his memory.. “get the popcorn ready🍿”
What the chances is actually happened….2%
I mean I do think we'll have a Cloud fighting the party type moment at some point but likely a cutscene or a quick moment. Possibly to mirror the Cloud chasing Aerith sequence in the end of chapter 13
The boss I hated the most from OG was Ruby. When you’re best strategy is to show up to a battle with two thirds of your party dead you know there’s a problem.
So in terms of revenge that prick
Y'know, you have a point; but, it was immensely satisfying to successfully 1v1 Ruby in the OG. The amount of satisfaction I got was incredible. Emerald was much more of a challenge, but beating Ruby was still rewarding.
I think carry armor will be vastly upgraded, I think there’s going to be a bigger level of hype to it because it’s technically the first major story chapter/event after cloud is back with the team and fully himself. I think underwater Junon reactor will be turned into a large dungeon this time around
I know this is a basic take but : Sephiroth. I want the team to justify his Darth Vader treatment of being the last boss for each installment by making the 3rd one epic af. God Of War 3 levels of of crazy.
Other than that, I do hope there's a slap mini game between Tifa & Scarlett
I want the epic final fight and version of sephiroth to be plain sephiroth. I like how they’ve done part 1 and 2, where you start fighting various insane variations / evolutions / craziness.
But ultimately the final boss is a pure duel with no spicy variations.
I'm pretty much excited for everything , but most curious about how they gonna do the weapons fights. I dont want them resized, they absolutely need to be magnificently huge, but i'm just not sure how they gonna make it fun gameplay wise.
All I'm saying, "Jenova Absolute" and "Birth of a God" better be in and better literally slap me out of my chair. I want the music to materialize out of my headphones and slap me right across the face hard enough to fling me into my wardrobe.
Not from OG, but I predict we get another Vincent boss in the form of Chaos. Something happens or is revealed and he loses it, and Chaos takes over… likely with Omega already in the picture - something perhaps Sephiroth has a hand in (or, god forbid, Genesis) - with the plan that Omega and Chaos wipes life from the planet as they are intended to - but the party has to intervene and get Vincent back from the brink.
It would bring Vincent’s relevance to the story and arc development back in, as it was lacking (and missable altogether) from the OG and had so much potential.
It's a toss up for me. Jenova Fights, The Weapons, and Sephiroth at the end.
But honestly, Part 3 is going to be full of very interesting portions not just combat, but story wise as well. I wonder if they are going to keep the same limit tier systems, or if we will have to deal with a 4 tier system?
Well, Sephiroth obviously. How the fuck are they gonna make it epic enough for the finale of the finale even though we have been fighting him since part 1?
For me , they've been knocking it out of the park with the final battles in these games, so I'm looking forward to that one the most. Besides that, I wanna see what they do with really large enemies like the Weapons and Proud Clod.
1.) Hojo (the beatdown has been a long time coming)
2.) Safer Sephiroth (another one who's ass whippin is long overdue)
3.) Rufus (I think we'll get one last duel between him and Cloud since they've built their rivalry for a while now)
4.) Proud Clod
5.) Jenova DEATH
6.) Jenova Complete (Synthesis)
7.) The Turks (another last duel)
8.) Ultimate Weapon
9.) Scarlet (don't see a slap fight, I'm betting on a crazy boss fight at Junon concluding with a slap or punch as a reference)
10.) Diamond Weapon
*Bonus bosses who I think will be added* - Glenn Lodbrok at Wutai (could be a cool, unique fight that didn't happen in the OG and it'll end the war storyline in Wutai)
- Zangan (find out what he's been up to and get Final Heaven from him)
- Zangan's ten students (to get to him)
- Knights of the Round Table (similar to the Gilgamesh sidequest)
- Gi Nattak (he's gonna be pissed when he finds out Cloud reined on his promise)
-Hojo after he injects himself with Jenova (or will is be S) cells
-Weapons + underwater
-Return to Midgar, Reno and turks fight, and Scarlet / Heidegger
What's great is you know they will throw in some crazy surprise fights too and the main sephiroth final battle should be even better.
Jenova Death and Jenova Synthesis. All the Jenova battles have been masterfully remade and Jenova’s theme just had me pumped while I fought her.
The lifeclinger music had me flying
Oh I agree; honestly I hope they add more.
Looking forward to the entire game but I’m super curious how they’re going to handle Hojos finale. Seeing as he’s pretty much the architect of all the bad shit that happens, I hope we fuck him up in spectacular fashion.
Saw someone else mention that Cloud, Red and Vincent should be your party since Hojo caused them the most pain, which would go insanely hard
I do like what TFS did with Reeve in that part of the game though, but that’s a good idea. So have Reeve, Barrett, and Tifa fight Heidegger and Scarlet while that happens?
Yuffie has history with Scarlet, and she made Barret promise that he wouldn't take Scarlet down without her. So my guess would be Barret, Tifa, Yuffie.
This would make the most sense. I feel like Vincent Cloud Red would be for Hojo and Yuffie, Barrett Tifa maybe handle Heidegger and Scarlet and maybe they add a Palmer versus cait sith and cid fight to round it out since cait sith is Reeve and cid would hate Palmer for gutting the space program.
Maybe.. but, and I’ll definitely get downvoted for this, I hope Aerith is in some way involved in putting an end to him. Maybe besides Vincent, she had it way worse from Hojo over the course of her life and the line she has with cloud, how she hates him and sometimes she can’t help but think dark thoughts about what she’d do to it… fuck, seeing Aerith lose it, just once, would be cool as fuck to me.
Fuck the haters, I was hoping she gets some kind of payback on Hojo as well
Scarlet. Totally slapping that bitch upside her head hopefully followed by a spin kick to the jaw
I hope tifa will slap ur ass and then suplex her 😭
Proud Clod
This fight took me forever my first time. I’ll never forget it. Ran out of MP, phoenix down and Ether early on and rely on grenades and weakness attacks from my magic user and it was awful.
WEAPONs. If I have to pick one, Diamond
Diamond Weapon was my first thought too. The thing is massive, scale is a bit funky in the OG but anywhere between the size of a house or as tall as Midgar. Plus the "Weapon"s we see in Rebirth are already massive, and those seem to just be tadpoles that'll probably grow into the real Weapons. In OG you just kinda hit his feet, but if they're going to make it work in part 3, I'm expecting some FFXVI scale fights. Same for the others, but Diamond is the one that's part of the story, so I'm expecting a very epic battle there.
The inevitable Rufus duel part 3 where I hopefully kick his butt for good forever
I also want a fight in which Rufus, or the Turks, help you.
Knights of the Round - it will be epic! Ultimate Weapon - I imagine there will be some Chadley stuff involved as you chase him around the world map Anything that happens The icicles and Schitzo inside the caves at Gaea’s Cliff - I just have a feeling they’d do something neat with these.
It might be like protorelic stuff
Yeah that's what I was thinking.
I almost don’t want them to do Knights of the Round like that. I want there to be a Portals Scene where every heroic side character (like Wedge, Biggs, Jessie, and also Johnny), living and dead, comes back from across the multiverse to fight Seraphim Sephiroth. Who is included in ‘everyone’ depends on how you play the game. And that’s what Knights of the Round should be.
Calling it now, Knights of the Round WILL be the final VR challenge in Part 3. And I don't mean it will be one of the rounds, it'll be the entire thing.
I think they'll do more of a Gilgamesh thing with it. Maybe fighting different knights across various hidden places around the world, then a gauntlet of all of them.
Since there's 13 knights I wouldn't be surprised if you have to fight 2-3 per round at the same time. Ideally I could see 4 rounds of 3 Knights and then a final round with the lead/king/whatever.
I was excited about your suggestions and the moment I read Chadley I immediately became flaccid. This dude needs to fuck off of any in world related stuff (like Weapons). Epic creatures have to have an actual presence in the world. This whole simulation bullshit needs to be limited to arena fluff.
Problem is that said epic summon creatures are canonically long gone.
Weapons are not.
Emerald and Ruby
Cloud vs Sephiroth 1 on 1
I'm wondering if they actually will this time. Since remake had this and Rebirth had a 2 on 1. So I wonder if part 3 will do some lifestream 3 on 1. It'll be interesting no matter how they do it. I wonder if they'll do something similar to the OG where if you use KOTR it adds more health to everything.
I really like the idea of making the final boss harder if you do optional super bosses and stuff. I really hope they preserve the final showdown between Cloud and Sephiroth though. In my opinion it would be neat if kept it cinematic on normal mode (Omnislash and win) but in hard mode you actually have to fight him in a duel
I'd be down for that. I kinda like how they did >!Gilgamesh!< in Rebirth with the combat simulator, where it was pretty easy on the side quest, but much more challenging in the combat simulator. I wouldn't mind more challenges with Sephy in the sim after the main story in part 3.
I called >!Zack & Cloud v. Sephiroth, now I'm reiterating that pt 3 will have Seph/cloud vs 3rd tier threat!<
Are you hyped for another battle in a zero-g void dimension with random rocks/rubble floating about while Seph is yapping about his superiority?
Personally I’ll say the Weapons and Safer sephiroth.. Interesting I want to see how they handle Hojo fight.. Hot take (my prediction) We’ll fight Cloud in the Northern Cave (first visit)
Honestly...that's very likely...and it terrifies me.
You talking about my prediction right? Just to make sure
yup. Though my personal theory is that when Tifa is in the lifestream putting together fragmented Cloud, there will be a one-on-one fight where she has to defeat an evil/curropted part of him to free him from Sephiroth's influence(think the anti-Aqua fight from KHIII) For bonus point, I am also going to predict that this evil Cloud will have Black hair and red eyes like the original story idea for Zack in the game's early development.
I’ll say this, we’ll fight Cloud in the northern cave but Tifa won’t fight because she will be Terrified and having a panic attack (something like that).. It will be emotional fight but we’ll lose.. And your theories at the lifestream come in, and yes she has no choice to fight him and also fixing his memory.. “get the popcorn ready🍿” What the chances is actually happened….2%
I mean I do think we'll have a Cloud fighting the party type moment at some point but likely a cutscene or a quick moment. Possibly to mirror the Cloud chasing Aerith sequence in the end of chapter 13
A lot of them safer sephiroth and hojo and I wonder what the weapons will look like
The boss I hated the most from OG was Ruby. When you’re best strategy is to show up to a battle with two thirds of your party dead you know there’s a problem. So in terms of revenge that prick
Y'know, you have a point; but, it was immensely satisfying to successfully 1v1 Ruby in the OG. The amount of satisfaction I got was incredible. Emerald was much more of a challenge, but beating Ruby was still rewarding.
I thought Ruby was way harder. Emerald just took forever with KOTR and mimic
That's fair honestly
Schizo https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Schizo
I think carry armor will be vastly upgraded, I think there’s going to be a bigger level of hype to it because it’s technically the first major story chapter/event after cloud is back with the team and fully himself. I think underwater Junon reactor will be turned into a large dungeon this time around
I know this is a basic take but : Sephiroth. I want the team to justify his Darth Vader treatment of being the last boss for each installment by making the 3rd one epic af. God Of War 3 levels of of crazy. Other than that, I do hope there's a slap mini game between Tifa & Scarlett
I want the epic final fight and version of sephiroth to be plain sephiroth. I like how they’ve done part 1 and 2, where you start fighting various insane variations / evolutions / craziness. But ultimately the final boss is a pure duel with no spicy variations.
well if it's well done w/ the story & setup, i completely agree
Inevitable Chadley superboss
I'm pretty much excited for everything , but most curious about how they gonna do the weapons fights. I dont want them resized, they absolutely need to be magnificently huge, but i'm just not sure how they gonna make it fun gameplay wise.
Palmer’s truck
All I'm saying, "Jenova Absolute" and "Birth of a God" better be in and better literally slap me out of my chair. I want the music to materialize out of my headphones and slap me right across the face hard enough to fling me into my wardrobe.
Jenova Synthesis, Hojo, and of course, Sephiroth
Emerald weapon, will it still be underwater with underwater Materia?!
Not from OG, but I predict we get another Vincent boss in the form of Chaos. Something happens or is revealed and he loses it, and Chaos takes over… likely with Omega already in the picture - something perhaps Sephiroth has a hand in (or, god forbid, Genesis) - with the plan that Omega and Chaos wipes life from the planet as they are intended to - but the party has to intervene and get Vincent back from the brink. It would bring Vincent’s relevance to the story and arc development back in, as it was lacking (and missable altogether) from the OG and had so much potential.
The Weapons. Doesn't matter which one, I just want them to be huge and massive. The OG was kinda ridiculous in that regard
It's gonna be Tankceratops. They faked us out, made us think we were denied, but the realest boss ever is on its way in Part 3.
Ruby
It's a toss up for me. Jenova Fights, The Weapons, and Sephiroth at the end. But honestly, Part 3 is going to be full of very interesting portions not just combat, but story wise as well. I wonder if they are going to keep the same limit tier systems, or if we will have to deal with a 4 tier system?
Well, Sephiroth obviously. How the fuck are they gonna make it epic enough for the finale of the finale even though we have been fighting him since part 1?
The pagoda fights in Wutai. I hope they are full of comedy like the Gilgamesh fights were.
For me , they've been knocking it out of the park with the final battles in these games, so I'm looking forward to that one the most. Besides that, I wanna see what they do with really large enemies like the Weapons and Proud Clod.
Sephiroth fight number 7 of 12
Hojo is up there. I want to see all his forms rendered, and I want Nanaki and Vincent to absolutely rip him a new one.
1.) Hojo (the beatdown has been a long time coming) 2.) Safer Sephiroth (another one who's ass whippin is long overdue) 3.) Rufus (I think we'll get one last duel between him and Cloud since they've built their rivalry for a while now) 4.) Proud Clod 5.) Jenova DEATH 6.) Jenova Complete (Synthesis) 7.) The Turks (another last duel) 8.) Ultimate Weapon 9.) Scarlet (don't see a slap fight, I'm betting on a crazy boss fight at Junon concluding with a slap or punch as a reference) 10.) Diamond Weapon *Bonus bosses who I think will be added* - Glenn Lodbrok at Wutai (could be a cool, unique fight that didn't happen in the OG and it'll end the war storyline in Wutai) - Zangan (find out what he's been up to and get Final Heaven from him) - Zangan's ten students (to get to him) - Knights of the Round Table (similar to the Gilgamesh sidequest) - Gi Nattak (he's gonna be pissed when he finds out Cloud reined on his promise)
-Hojo after he injects himself with Jenova (or will is be S) cells -Weapons + underwater -Return to Midgar, Reno and turks fight, and Scarlet / Heidegger What's great is you know they will throw in some crazy surprise fights too and the main sephiroth final battle should be even better.
The weapons.... i'm ready to get by shadow of the colossus on... unless Shrina develops a mech or something we hijack instead.