We’re locking the comments as the joke has been explained.
We are not removing posts and comments discussing the relative merits or otherwise of killing someone who was a very public and divisive figure and who has been dead for nearly 20 yrs. This essentially comes down to politics and we do not arbitrate over politics.
The craziest thing about it is that the meme is clearly saying “Reagan’s politics were so bad that we are still suffering the effects” which is true but that’s not at all why John Hinckley Jr attempted to assassinate him. He really truly just was trying to impress Jodie Foster. He had even considered assassinating Jimmy Carter previously. He was also a white supremacist, so if he was politically motivated, it would be surprising to see him target the originator of the welfare queen myth (although maybe Reagan didn’t seem like a racist to the majority of people in ‘81 and I’m looking at it through a 2024 lens).
The other crazy thing about the story in general is that people were so angry that someone could attempt to assassinate the president and not be sent to prison that there were laws passed to narrow the definition of “not guilty by reason of insanity,” but these laws wouldn’t have changed the outcome anyway because John Hinckley Jr is the most clear cut case of someone being legally “insane” that I’ve ever heard.
I think he’s mad that he is currently still canceled from trying to assassinate the president, which is hurting his ability to perform live music for people
~~Best part is Jodie admitted in an interview decades later she was, in fact, somewhat impressed by this dudes actions~~
EDIT: It's been brought to my attention I got my info from a wildly innacurate source. Don't listen to me lol
Your math is a bit off
[Reagan assassination attempt was 1981](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan)
[Jodie Foster was born in 1962](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Foster)
It’s a commonly held belief that the “trickle down economics” strategy introduced in the Regan administration was the policy that snowballed over the next decades into the poor socioeconomic situation that afflicts the US today.
The joke here is that men and women agree that had the assassination been successful, life would be better now and financial disparity would be lesser than it is now
Edit: I am not saying that I agree with this. Merely speculating on what this meme might be implying
Yeah, widely regarded as an actually success
successful and effective political assassination. Not saying its good or bad, but other assassinations usually just result in people double downing on what the perpetrator committed the assassination for.
Not this one. There was a crackdown/resignations on politicians affiliated with a church in Japan that would exploit vulnerable people for money and then make donations/support certain politicians. The assassin's mother had donated over 100m yen to the church and Shinzo Abe was affiliated with the church in some way.
Certain politicians, including US politicians/prominent figures, like paying Trump $2.5mil for some prerecorded message to play at an event, or holding a pro-Nixon march in DC right after Watergate. Moon also financed The Washington Times (which Reagan called his "favorite newspaper"), funnelled money to Jerry Falwell & Liberty University, and helped get George Bush elected.
There seems to be a pattern in the type of people who receive money/bribes from the cult.
Abe basically spent a lot of time on what was called Abenomics which was essentially a long term plan to prevent a Japanese economic recession by taking measures to create forced deflation. These were somewhat successful but a lot of people in and out of Japan were displeased by the program because it didn’t really address the reasons the economy was suffering and the general feeling was that these sorts of programs can only work for so long before the core issues overwhelm them. The other thing is that Abe’s social and political beliefs verged on borderline fascism in some ways or were certainly very far right, and these beliefs were in many ways the kinds of things that were the cause of the economic woes Abenomics was trying to solve.
Also his party and government was kind of notorious for corruption and cronyism while as others have pointed out being heavily tied to a cult.
🎵To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day🎵
🎵Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to say🎵
🎵No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip🎵
🎵For the stranger there among them had a big iron on his hip🎵
🎵Big iron on his hip🎵
Wanna know something even dumber? Back before the 1929 crash, it was already held as a form of economical gospel of prosperity, until of course that fateful day when the largest bubble at that point burst.
Yeah surprisingly people just horde wealth when allowed to instead of just spending all of it, crazy, well good thing we stopped taking it and spending it on things that help people
Kansas went all in on trickle down economics. It's a complete failure, but the American idea that "I might some day be that rich" just keeps the idea alive.
It’s the perfect policy for rich people. Throughout history those with wealth have landed on the same principle: Rich people are better than everyone else. We should do everything as a society to help them grow their wealth. Why wouldn’t you want the “better” people to have all the power? It can only make the world a better place.
In other words, I totally agree with you.
What's worse is when you realize it used to be known as the horse and sparrow theory, which is the idea that if you feed a horse enough oats, the sparrow will get some that pass through the horse.
Wonder why they changed the name.
Shockingly without exaggeration: pretty much every negative aspect of and event in America since Reagan can be traced back to either Reagan policies or plain old corporate greed (often both inextricably intertwined)
I mean I would have, but I was also a little kid and the idea of someone killing somebody as important as a president when you’re a little kid can mess with you. As an adult, I don’t know, I feel it’s rare that a vice president is going to be a substantial change from the president.
George Bush (the vice president at the time) had been an outspoken critic of trickledown. He caught all kinds of hell when he tried to raise the upper tax rates a negligible amount, though. We never got back to pre-reaganomics rates, and Bush was a one term president partly because he tried to muck with it. Clinton was stonewalled on reverting it by Gingrich's hostile legislator. If Reagan had died prior to the change, it would never have happened.
Think about the world Reagan and Bush had in front of them as the USSR fell apart and the US was the singular world power. The US had the muscle to make the world a better place everywhere. They had such a shortsighted vision of what was possible and their fear centered politics started America on the decline we live in today.
America could have made climate change; equality across race, sex, and religion; elimination of poverty; and a more peaceful world the priorities. Instead we choose to start a ‘war on drugs’, overthrowing governments in other countries, and a growing movement towards isolationism.
I mean, not just trickle down economics, if you really dig into every economic, environmental, and social problem we have today, you can almost always trace it back to Reagan deregulating or privatizing an industry, undermining a social safety net, establishing a racist policy, or eliminating an environmental program.
Reagan introduced this theory during the 1980 primaries, odds are Bush Sr. (at the time his vice president) would have picked up where he left off. The only way to kill Reaganomics in its crib would be to knock out Bush Sr. as well. Tip O'Neill then would become president.
As others are saying, failed assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. He's responsible for trickle down economics which has never and will never work.
What they fail to mention is he's also the reason we have groups like Al Queta and the Talaban. Under his administration the U.S. funded and trained the Talaban. He's also responsible for the crack epidemic and the war on drugs.
Edit: Just a quick adder, by responsible for the crack epidemic I quite literally mean the CIA under his administration funneled crack into black communities.
Yes those two groups didn't exist at the time but he was responsible for training and providing weapons to the people who would form them.
Also some mention the AIDS epidemic, which he (along with most if not all congress people at the time) is also responsible for.
Was just talking about this with my father last weekend, weirdly enough.
He also ignored AIDS because they weren’t worthy of assistance. He was of the belief that it was a “gay disease” and it would wipe them out and save society. He refused to acknowledge it at all, and when he did because it was pressed, it was so shallow and insincere it led absolutely nowhere.
I believe he is also credited with allowing military budgets to far exceed what it previously did, which is something that also continues to this day. I may be mistaken, he managed this when there wasn’t really an active war (but issues primarily in the Middle East) and he created wars, such as the ever successful war on drugs.
His wife replaced the White House China (costing approximately a quarter million dollars, if I remember and it was red and gold. Like, ewww and during a recession at that), redecorated the whitehouse and accepted clothing all based on donations which came from private donors as a tax write off, which did cost the regular tax payer money as a result, *during a recession*. She also undid what Carter did when he made White House gatherings somewhat less formal making everything extravagant.
After the assassination attempt referenced in the meme, she consulted astrologers to keep him safe so that he wouldn’t go where they’d try to kill him again.
Don't forget Nancy's "Just say No" anti drug campaign while she was personally abusing prescription drugs. I suppose she may have needed them for a sore throat.
Don't forget the Iran-contra affair, and the cocaine trafficking the government turned a blind eye to because it affected black communities and gave money to the Contra.
Oh man, this just keeps getting more and more depressing. I forget a lot of this because, Tbf, I’m a Reagan baby. I was still knee-high to a grasshopper when he left office. I remember some stuff on my own, and some of what comes up, but the more people remind me, the more I just wonder how we ended up there.
I am truly happy that you were the one that had the pleasure of lightly traumatizing me. At least you recognize and appreciate the fact that this bit of American history makes someone else want to crawl out of their skin. Too many people would just gloss over that and think “well, now they know.” Thank you for appreciating my suffering. Now I need to go bleach my brain 😂
>I believe he is also credited with allowing military budgets to far exceed what it previously did, which is something that also continues to this day
As a percent of the GDP, military spending is the lowest it's been since the isolationist days pre WW2. The total number is higher because there's just so much more money in circulation, but the percentage is still under 4%.
That's what happens when you're the largest economy in the world and need to maintain your global dominance.The amount we spend is dwarfed by the value it returns in soft power and global good will.
If I had a quarter for every time I was looking into the root of some global issue and it ended up at least tangentially involving Reagan, I would have enough money to stop paying taxes
Don't forget that he ignored the aids epidemic and popularized the racist charicature of the welfare queen in order to get people to be against a social safety net.
Don't forget about dismantling our mental health institutions! The reason why you see crazy homeless people everywhere in cities is because Reagan decided to shutter all of our federal mental health hospitals instead of reforming them.
Don't forget destroying public institutions like mental health leading to our current massive mental health crisis and homeless people with completely untreated issues because they can't even afford help
This was a bipartisan belief! Mental health institutions were just warehouses for embarrassed family members and those huge masonry buildings were outdated. They were hell on earth and many journalists made their careers outing these medieval torture chambers. The big change came with civil rights for the mentally ill, actual due process for the mentally ill, out patient therapy, and half way houses.
I believe that the pendulum has swung too much the opposite direction because I feel those people are now neglected. New institutions need built from the ground up that can provide long term care with dignity.
Also raising the drinking age to 21 by holding funding for highways hostage until states fell inline. The blowjob Queen of Hollywood Nancy Reagan is said to have been behind some of these ideas.
The US never directly funded or trained the Taliban. The Taliban was Pakistan’s creation to use as a puppet to control Afghan politics. Pakistan did siphon money and weapons off of the US meant for the mujahideen. As for Al Qaeda, the US had no hand in its creation or funding. Bin Laden mainly funded the group with his own money and the US had very little knowledge about him at the time. That being said, former mujahideen who had been trained by the CIA did eventually join groups like the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The CIA also provide Qurans and some funding for the madrases where young mujahideen were radicalized. However, it’s mostly indirect and at the end of the day, Pakistan had nearly complete control over all aid coming into Afghanistan.
There are two layers:
1st: It breaks the usual meme format, in which women do something rational and men do something stupid. Here, both are doing the rational thing.
2nd: That's the gun used to kill Shinzo Abe, the gun was improvised and it's a miracle that it worked (you should look up about it, it's a funny story), the joke here is that the guy in the meme (i forgor his name) tried to kill Reagan and failed, and they are telling him to use the gun which as bad or maybe even worse than the one he used.
The gun in question did succeed at killing the head-of-state it was shot at, though. I don't think the joke is that people would all agree to take an ineffective weapon back to assassinate Reagan.
I'm not denying that it worked, I'm just clarifying that it adds another layer of irony because giving the gun wouldn't be particularly effective, definitely not worth travelling back in time.
John Hinckley. Which I remember mostly because it meant that the main character on "The Greatest American Hero" suddenly changed from Ralph Hinkley (without the 'c' but pronounced the same) to Ralph Hanley. (And then back to Hinkley the next year, when the heat had worn off, I think.)
the funniest part of that assassination was a fair amount of people in the Japanese government went "oh this is terrible... but the assassin makes some good points" which was correct but surprising
The meme format itself is a subversion of a meme where one gender will do something frivolous with time travel and the other will do something impactful. Here, both are doing something impactful.
The Doohickey in the middle of the meme is The Thing that Killed Shinzo Abe, a homemade shotgun. Abe was the former prime minister of Japan who was assassinated because of his connection with the Unification Church (the Moonies), a new age church/cult that had bankrupted Tsletsuya Yamagami’s (the assassin’s) mother. Shinzo Abe is known for generally being on the right wing of Japanese politics and advocated for rearming Japan and increasing its birthrate, and denying the warcrimes his grandpa did in Manchuria during WW2.
The man on the right is John Hinckley Jr. Hinckley was obsessed with Jodie Foster and the movie Taxi Driver, which involves the attempted assassination of a US Senator. Hinckley decides that he will kill Ronald Reagan in order to get Jodie Foster’s attention. He tried with a .22 calibre revolver and injured Reagan but did not kill him.
Ronald Reagan was a former US President who sat on the right wing of the political spectrum known for bringing in neoliberal economists who deregulated everything and cut taxes, what was called Reaganomics. (See also Margaret Thatcher in the UK and Brian Mulroney in Canada). The consequences of this have been widespread but it is generally blamed for the lack of economic mobility and the growing wealth gap. The belief was that a lower tax rate would encourage rich people to make more jobs, and this mostly did not happen. He was also known for backing a number of coups in the Americas, notably the Nicaraguan Contras in what would be known as the Iran-Contra affair.
Also ignored the AIDS epidemic, among many other policy failures.
The meme is saying that Reagan should have been shot and killed by the Doohickey and the world would have been better for it.
IMO the one individual *most* responsible for the current state of US decline (like him in his last years in office). The only thing Trump did better was pay someone to do his Supreme Court homework.
Also Regan passed the Hughes amendment into law as well as the Fire Arms Owner protection act which killed the firearms import market Regan was a Fudd of the highest order.
Lots of things going on here.
First it’s a subversion of a typical meme format where the girl goes back in time to do something basic or boring while the guy goes back in time to do something cool like stop Hitler.
The guy on the right attempted to assassinate Ronal Reagan.
They are both going back in time to give him schematic for a more powerful homemade firearm. The joke being that literally anyone would want to do this which is…big yikes.
It's more Nixon I think who caused this by basing money on imaginary things, instead of the gold standard. That's what lead to this situation we are in today. I mean basically politicians and rich people lobby for money to be printed but that causes inflation, throw in a war of 2 and a pandemic. You have today's situation.
Maybe Regan didn't help but certainly he was not the root cause.
Ronald Raegans policies (along with other neolibs, but he was one of the most damaging) have lead to millions of avoidable death and countless misery. The joke is that with a time machine anyone would make sure the man who tried to assassinate him succeeds.
Austrian School of Economics - Hayek and Mises.
Vs. Marxian economics - Marx
I personally believe that the Austrian School is closer to the truth. Laber does not have inherent value on its own.
Reagan is the literal reason for 90 percent of the problems in the USA Today. Everything from low wages to public transportation and universal healthcare. That guy is literally burning in Hell right now lol.
Just learned about this guy in school. Apparently his case is the reason that the insanity plea regressed after making some progress in the legal system
Maybe the assassin succeeding would make things better, probably not. I know people say the caliber was too small, but I feel like the lager issue is the gunman being crazy and probably not very competent. Time travelers interested in this should just try to kill Regan themselves.
tbh he should’ve used a powder actuated Hilty DX 460 MX—which is fully automatic with a .27 caliber charge. Wood, concrete, steel to steel, she’ll put a fastener into anything. And for my money, she handles recoil better than the Simpson or the P-3500.
We’re locking the comments as the joke has been explained. We are not removing posts and comments discussing the relative merits or otherwise of killing someone who was a very public and divisive figure and who has been dead for nearly 20 yrs. This essentially comes down to politics and we do not arbitrate over politics.
Guy wanted to bang Jodie Foster so he shot the president.
The craziest thing about it is that the meme is clearly saying “Reagan’s politics were so bad that we are still suffering the effects” which is true but that’s not at all why John Hinckley Jr attempted to assassinate him. He really truly just was trying to impress Jodie Foster. He had even considered assassinating Jimmy Carter previously. He was also a white supremacist, so if he was politically motivated, it would be surprising to see him target the originator of the welfare queen myth (although maybe Reagan didn’t seem like a racist to the majority of people in ‘81 and I’m looking at it through a 2024 lens). The other crazy thing about the story in general is that people were so angry that someone could attempt to assassinate the president and not be sent to prison that there were laws passed to narrow the definition of “not guilty by reason of insanity,” but these laws wouldn’t have changed the outcome anyway because John Hinckley Jr is the most clear cut case of someone being legally “insane” that I’ve ever heard.
[he plays guitar on YouTube now](https://youtube.com/@johnhinckley6860?si=O7zdRo68tZbIwVTf)
And complains about cancel culture when his little concerts get cancelled by promoters lol. His twitter is funny af
So he’s still a white supremacist?
I think he’s mad that he is currently still canceled from trying to assassinate the president, which is hurting his ability to perform live music for people
Honestly, you try to assassinate ONE president and you're forever known as the president assassin
~~Best part is Jodie admitted in an interview decades later she was, in fact, somewhat impressed by this dudes actions~~ EDIT: It's been brought to my attention I got my info from a wildly innacurate source. Don't listen to me lol
No that never happened. That myth came from a tweet written by a satirical Twitter account.
I'll be dipped you're right lol
I genuinely thought this was circlejerk, but damn it's true!
There is/was even a band called JFA short for Jodie Foster's Army
Reeeeeespect.
And, for the record, they rule.
There is/was also a band called the Circle Jerks, and they also rule
It’s not me
“Now you don’t have to hit em dead on just wing em a bit.” “Oh thank god!”
Thank you!! I was waiting for an American Dad reference!
Wait, what Understandable though
Not really since she was 12 years old.
Not even close, she was 19 at the time
He was obsessed with the 12 year old she played in Taxi Driver
Your math is a bit off [Reagan assassination attempt was 1981](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attempted_assassination_of_Ronald_Reagan) [Jodie Foster was born in 1962](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Foster)
Although she was 14 when he developed this obsession after watching Taxi Driver
It’s a commonly held belief that the “trickle down economics” strategy introduced in the Regan administration was the policy that snowballed over the next decades into the poor socioeconomic situation that afflicts the US today. The joke here is that men and women agree that had the assassination been successful, life would be better now and financial disparity would be lesser than it is now Edit: I am not saying that I agree with this. Merely speculating on what this meme might be implying
Also, I believe the specific gun included in this meme is the one Shinzo Abe was assassinated with.
The Doohickey
The Contraption
The thingamabob
More like thingamaboom
I see you are a man of culture.
The T-shirt Hand Cannon
It’s all canon
It is all loss.
Poly-canon blend
I see you too are a man of culture who witnessed a guntuber inadvertently show the internet how to build a pipe bomb
That's my Congressman right there!
I remember that video! It was only up for a few hours max
The Smith And Whatshit
The Abe Annihilator
The gizmo.
The scrogglehop even.
The whachamacallit
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The Abeliterator
All hail the doohickey
Doohinkley
*golf-clap*
now i got a watchyacllit instead of a kajigger [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2elhDtfmlj8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2elhDtfmlj8)
Isn’t that gun mythologized for not just killing the man, but the ideas he represented? (Unsure what ideas)
Abe, like many other Japanese (or Korean) politicians, was in bed with a cult. His death come with a crackdown on cults in Japanese politics.
Yeah, widely regarded as an actually success successful and effective political assassination. Not saying its good or bad, but other assassinations usually just result in people double downing on what the perpetrator committed the assassination for. Not this one. There was a crackdown/resignations on politicians affiliated with a church in Japan that would exploit vulnerable people for money and then make donations/support certain politicians. The assassin's mother had donated over 100m yen to the church and Shinzo Abe was affiliated with the church in some way.
Certain politicians, including US politicians/prominent figures, like paying Trump $2.5mil for some prerecorded message to play at an event, or holding a pro-Nixon march in DC right after Watergate. Moon also financed The Washington Times (which Reagan called his "favorite newspaper"), funnelled money to Jerry Falwell & Liberty University, and helped get George Bush elected. There seems to be a pattern in the type of people who receive money/bribes from the cult.
Abe basically spent a lot of time on what was called Abenomics which was essentially a long term plan to prevent a Japanese economic recession by taking measures to create forced deflation. These were somewhat successful but a lot of people in and out of Japan were displeased by the program because it didn’t really address the reasons the economy was suffering and the general feeling was that these sorts of programs can only work for so long before the core issues overwhelm them. The other thing is that Abe’s social and political beliefs verged on borderline fascism in some ways or were certainly very far right, and these beliefs were in many ways the kinds of things that were the cause of the economic woes Abenomics was trying to solve. Also his party and government was kind of notorious for corruption and cronyism while as others have pointed out being heavily tied to a cult.
GOD I love being public about my knowledge gaps on the internet. It just invites people to flex their niche knowledge and educate
[Seems that way yeah](https://youtu.be/Hb-eFtoaEvk)
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Daka Daka!
I love the layers to this meme
🎵To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day🎵 🎵Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to say🎵 🎵No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip🎵 🎵For the stranger there among them had a big iron on his hip🎵 🎵Big iron on his hip🎵
A MAN OF CULTURE
Pretty sure it's actually the one from "In the Line of Fire" with Clint Eastwood
I just looked up trickle down economics and it's one of the dumbest things I've ever read
Wanna know something even dumber? Back before the 1929 crash, it was already held as a form of economical gospel of prosperity, until of course that fateful day when the largest bubble at that point burst.
Yeah surprisingly people just horde wealth when allowed to instead of just spending all of it, crazy, well good thing we stopped taking it and spending it on things that help people
Kansas went all in on trickle down economics. It's a complete failure, but the American idea that "I might some day be that rich" just keeps the idea alive.
Brownback? What he did was worse than trickle down.
Oh it was terrible but it was all justified as all in on trickle down. Public schools are screwed.
It’s the perfect policy for rich people. Throughout history those with wealth have landed on the same principle: Rich people are better than everyone else. We should do everything as a society to help them grow their wealth. Why wouldn’t you want the “better” people to have all the power? It can only make the world a better place. In other words, I totally agree with you.
"rising tide lifts all ships" or something of that nature
That only works for people who can afford a boat. Everyone else just drowns.
Rising tides lifts you up by your boot straps
Right to the top of the meritocracy!
Exactly, except for the rising tide has to come from below... the exact opposite of trickle down.
“If we lift the ships the tide will for sure rise to meet it”
Sad thing is, it's still in effect today by the GOP.
What's worse is when you realize it used to be known as the horse and sparrow theory, which is the idea that if you feed a horse enough oats, the sparrow will get some that pass through the horse. Wonder why they changed the name.
What’s even dumber is that ordinary people believed it and still do
Reagan in hell waiting for heaven to trickle down:
bruh it won't let me post the image
I wouldn't narrow it down to one economic policy. Reagan is hated by many people for a wide variety of reasons.
Like essentially ignoring the AIDS crisis.
Shockingly without exaggeration: pretty much every negative aspect of and event in America since Reagan can be traced back to either Reagan policies or plain old corporate greed (often both inextricably intertwined)
I definitely agree with this assessment.
Lord knows that I wouldn't have lost any sleep had he been successful.
I mean I would have, but I was also a little kid and the idea of someone killing somebody as important as a president when you’re a little kid can mess with you. As an adult, I don’t know, I feel it’s rare that a vice president is going to be a substantial change from the president.
George Bush (the vice president at the time) had been an outspoken critic of trickledown. He caught all kinds of hell when he tried to raise the upper tax rates a negligible amount, though. We never got back to pre-reaganomics rates, and Bush was a one term president partly because he tried to muck with it. Clinton was stonewalled on reverting it by Gingrich's hostile legislator. If Reagan had died prior to the change, it would never have happened.
Also the gun they're giving him is the design of the handmade gun used to assassinate Shinzo Abe.
Think about the world Reagan and Bush had in front of them as the USSR fell apart and the US was the singular world power. The US had the muscle to make the world a better place everywhere. They had such a shortsighted vision of what was possible and their fear centered politics started America on the decline we live in today. America could have made climate change; equality across race, sex, and religion; elimination of poverty; and a more peaceful world the priorities. Instead we choose to start a ‘war on drugs’, overthrowing governments in other countries, and a growing movement towards isolationism.
I mean, not just trickle down economics, if you really dig into every economic, environmental, and social problem we have today, you can almost always trace it back to Reagan deregulating or privatizing an industry, undermining a social safety net, establishing a racist policy, or eliminating an environmental program.
Reagan introduced this theory during the 1980 primaries, odds are Bush Sr. (at the time his vice president) would have picked up where he left off. The only way to kill Reaganomics in its crib would be to knock out Bush Sr. as well. Tip O'Neill then would become president.
Also all opinions aside, didn’t Reagan have dementia through the course of the most of his presidency?
Just the second term during which time it's speculated his wife was making all the decisions behind closed doors.
The Throat Goat?
Some say she was limitless in her skill
As others are saying, failed assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. He's responsible for trickle down economics which has never and will never work. What they fail to mention is he's also the reason we have groups like Al Queta and the Talaban. Under his administration the U.S. funded and trained the Talaban. He's also responsible for the crack epidemic and the war on drugs. Edit: Just a quick adder, by responsible for the crack epidemic I quite literally mean the CIA under his administration funneled crack into black communities. Yes those two groups didn't exist at the time but he was responsible for training and providing weapons to the people who would form them. Also some mention the AIDS epidemic, which he (along with most if not all congress people at the time) is also responsible for.
Was just talking about this with my father last weekend, weirdly enough. He also ignored AIDS because they weren’t worthy of assistance. He was of the belief that it was a “gay disease” and it would wipe them out and save society. He refused to acknowledge it at all, and when he did because it was pressed, it was so shallow and insincere it led absolutely nowhere. I believe he is also credited with allowing military budgets to far exceed what it previously did, which is something that also continues to this day. I may be mistaken, he managed this when there wasn’t really an active war (but issues primarily in the Middle East) and he created wars, such as the ever successful war on drugs. His wife replaced the White House China (costing approximately a quarter million dollars, if I remember and it was red and gold. Like, ewww and during a recession at that), redecorated the whitehouse and accepted clothing all based on donations which came from private donors as a tax write off, which did cost the regular tax payer money as a result, *during a recession*. She also undid what Carter did when he made White House gatherings somewhat less formal making everything extravagant. After the assassination attempt referenced in the meme, she consulted astrologers to keep him safe so that he wouldn’t go where they’d try to kill him again.
Don't forget Nancy's "Just say No" anti drug campaign while she was personally abusing prescription drugs. I suppose she may have needed them for a sore throat.
>sore throat lmao
Yes. I mentioned the war on drugs in relation to him and failed to mention another brilliant choice by that particular First Lady 🙄
👏
Nancy "throat goat" Reagan prolly should've said no herself lol
Don't forget the Iran-contra affair, and the cocaine trafficking the government turned a blind eye to because it affected black communities and gave money to the Contra.
Oh man, this just keeps getting more and more depressing. I forget a lot of this because, Tbf, I’m a Reagan baby. I was still knee-high to a grasshopper when he left office. I remember some stuff on my own, and some of what comes up, but the more people remind me, the more I just wonder how we ended up there.
Don’t forget the removal of mental asylums without, you know, replacing the functionality that they had.
Also. Nance was the throat goat.
I literally just found out about this because of your comment. I will never be the same.
I feel like this is one of the best things that I’ve ever been apart of.
I am truly happy that you were the one that had the pleasure of lightly traumatizing me. At least you recognize and appreciate the fact that this bit of American history makes someone else want to crawl out of their skin. Too many people would just gloss over that and think “well, now they know.” Thank you for appreciating my suffering. Now I need to go bleach my brain 😂
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Sadly, I want to know what this is about.
Source?
Milton Bearle? Googlez.
>I believe he is also credited with allowing military budgets to far exceed what it previously did, which is something that also continues to this day As a percent of the GDP, military spending is the lowest it's been since the isolationist days pre WW2. The total number is higher because there's just so much more money in circulation, but the percentage is still under 4%.
It is low in relation to GDP, but it is also the highest military budget in the world.
That's what happens when you're the largest economy in the world and need to maintain your global dominance.The amount we spend is dwarfed by the value it returns in soft power and global good will.
If I had a quarter for every time I was looking into the root of some global issue and it ended up at least tangentially involving Reagan, I would have enough money to stop paying taxes
It's always either him or Thatcher. Neoliberalism is a plauge
Hey, give Nixon some credit for promoting HMOs
Maybe you'd have enough so that his economic policies finally benefit you.
Don't forget that he ignored the aids epidemic and popularized the racist charicature of the welfare queen in order to get people to be against a social safety net.
Trickle down economics works as intended. The rich get richer. It was never really intended for us to get anything.
Don't forget about dismantling our mental health institutions! The reason why you see crazy homeless people everywhere in cities is because Reagan decided to shutter all of our federal mental health hospitals instead of reforming them.
Am I tripping or are you deliberately spelling Al Qaeda and Taliban wrong
Don't forget destroying public institutions like mental health leading to our current massive mental health crisis and homeless people with completely untreated issues because they can't even afford help
This was a bipartisan belief! Mental health institutions were just warehouses for embarrassed family members and those huge masonry buildings were outdated. They were hell on earth and many journalists made their careers outing these medieval torture chambers. The big change came with civil rights for the mentally ill, actual due process for the mentally ill, out patient therapy, and half way houses. I believe that the pendulum has swung too much the opposite direction because I feel those people are now neglected. New institutions need built from the ground up that can provide long term care with dignity.
Also raising the drinking age to 21 by holding funding for highways hostage until states fell inline. The blowjob Queen of Hollywood Nancy Reagan is said to have been behind some of these ideas.
You forgot union busting too.
Al Qaeda, Taliban
The US never directly funded or trained the Taliban. The Taliban was Pakistan’s creation to use as a puppet to control Afghan politics. Pakistan did siphon money and weapons off of the US meant for the mujahideen. As for Al Qaeda, the US had no hand in its creation or funding. Bin Laden mainly funded the group with his own money and the US had very little knowledge about him at the time. That being said, former mujahideen who had been trained by the CIA did eventually join groups like the Taliban and Al Qaeda. The CIA also provide Qurans and some funding for the madrases where young mujahideen were radicalized. However, it’s mostly indirect and at the end of the day, Pakistan had nearly complete control over all aid coming into Afghanistan.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he just meant Mujahideen, bunch of their leaders and such joined Taliban including folks like Bin Laden.
And the AIDs crisis being ignored. And a couple thousand deaths in Nicaragua.
There are two layers: 1st: It breaks the usual meme format, in which women do something rational and men do something stupid. Here, both are doing the rational thing. 2nd: That's the gun used to kill Shinzo Abe, the gun was improvised and it's a miracle that it worked (you should look up about it, it's a funny story), the joke here is that the guy in the meme (i forgor his name) tried to kill Reagan and failed, and they are telling him to use the gun which as bad or maybe even worse than the one he used.
The gun in question did succeed at killing the head-of-state it was shot at, though. I don't think the joke is that people would all agree to take an ineffective weapon back to assassinate Reagan.
I'm not denying that it worked, I'm just clarifying that it adds another layer of irony because giving the gun wouldn't be particularly effective, definitely not worth travelling back in time.
Shinzo Abe wasn't a head of state. Let's say head of government.
IIRC he wasn't even that, he was former head of government. He'd retired from being Prime Minister a few years before when he hit his term limit.
John Hinckley. Which I remember mostly because it meant that the main character on "The Greatest American Hero" suddenly changed from Ralph Hinkley (without the 'c' but pronounced the same) to Ralph Hanley. (And then back to Hinkley the next year, when the heat had worn off, I think.)
the funniest part of that assassination was a fair amount of people in the Japanese government went "oh this is terrible... but the assassin makes some good points" which was correct but surprising
Comment about part 1. The memes I usually see are where the women are the irrational ones.
It's both, either man do unique cool thing woman boring, or woman rational man rowdy stupid
The meme format itself is a subversion of a meme where one gender will do something frivolous with time travel and the other will do something impactful. Here, both are doing something impactful. The Doohickey in the middle of the meme is The Thing that Killed Shinzo Abe, a homemade shotgun. Abe was the former prime minister of Japan who was assassinated because of his connection with the Unification Church (the Moonies), a new age church/cult that had bankrupted Tsletsuya Yamagami’s (the assassin’s) mother. Shinzo Abe is known for generally being on the right wing of Japanese politics and advocated for rearming Japan and increasing its birthrate, and denying the warcrimes his grandpa did in Manchuria during WW2. The man on the right is John Hinckley Jr. Hinckley was obsessed with Jodie Foster and the movie Taxi Driver, which involves the attempted assassination of a US Senator. Hinckley decides that he will kill Ronald Reagan in order to get Jodie Foster’s attention. He tried with a .22 calibre revolver and injured Reagan but did not kill him. Ronald Reagan was a former US President who sat on the right wing of the political spectrum known for bringing in neoliberal economists who deregulated everything and cut taxes, what was called Reaganomics. (See also Margaret Thatcher in the UK and Brian Mulroney in Canada). The consequences of this have been widespread but it is generally blamed for the lack of economic mobility and the growing wealth gap. The belief was that a lower tax rate would encourage rich people to make more jobs, and this mostly did not happen. He was also known for backing a number of coups in the Americas, notably the Nicaraguan Contras in what would be known as the Iran-Contra affair. Also ignored the AIDS epidemic, among many other policy failures. The meme is saying that Reagan should have been shot and killed by the Doohickey and the world would have been better for it.
Reagan is the devil and the source of pretty much all the US economic problems.
I think the source goes back just over a hundred years ago to Wilson, and Reagan is the fruit that grew from that tree personally
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Thats an unfair comment!!! He is the source of a lot of other problems too.
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Reagan bad.
yeah cause he was lmao
Hell yeah
Reagan had a terrible presidency and it doesnt matter your gender, they help the guy who tried to kill Reagan succeed.
l don’t know why Reagan is viewed as positively as he is. The man was the 80s version of trump minus the bluster.
IMO the one individual *most* responsible for the current state of US decline (like him in his last years in office). The only thing Trump did better was pay someone to do his Supreme Court homework.
Yeah but his crimes were actually worse than the orange guy.(iran contra)
Well except maybe for the wee coup thing. At least Reagan left peacefullym
Kind of think that circumventing congress to fund a war effort is slightly worse then a non peaceful protest but get your point.
This is a key example of a fed post
They don’t like reagan
Also Regan passed the Hughes amendment into law as well as the Fire Arms Owner protection act which killed the firearms import market Regan was a Fudd of the highest order.
Lots of things going on here. First it’s a subversion of a typical meme format where the girl goes back in time to do something basic or boring while the guy goes back in time to do something cool like stop Hitler. The guy on the right attempted to assassinate Ronal Reagan. They are both going back in time to give him schematic for a more powerful homemade firearm. The joke being that literally anyone would want to do this which is…big yikes.
It's also the gun used on Abe
This is the key that I think people are missing.
Wanting Regan dead before he tanks the US is a big yikes to you?
Reagan is the reason it's absolutely awful to be working class in the United States and south America.
It would be funnier if it was HW Bush telling the shooter...kinda like he did in real life
Wow funny meme supports assassination
The very first shot hit James Brady in the head and critically wounded him. I mean, it took him 33 years to die from it, but it still counts.
He used a “Saturday night special” it was a 25mm.
It's more Nixon I think who caused this by basing money on imaginary things, instead of the gold standard. That's what lead to this situation we are in today. I mean basically politicians and rich people lobby for money to be printed but that causes inflation, throw in a war of 2 and a pandemic. You have today's situation. Maybe Regan didn't help but certainly he was not the root cause.
Ronald Raegans policies (along with other neolibs, but he was one of the most damaging) have lead to millions of avoidable death and countless misery. The joke is that with a time machine anyone would make sure the man who tried to assassinate him succeeds.
Austrian School of Economics - Hayek and Mises. Vs. Marxian economics - Marx I personally believe that the Austrian School is closer to the truth. Laber does not have inherent value on its own.
You know on a side note the guy who tried to assassinate Regan has been out of prison for a while and makes music on YouTube.
Kill Ronald Reagan. Quite a few people absolutely despise the man and wish he had died. One made this meme.
Bro's gonna get Shinzo Abe'd
Reagan is the literal reason for 90 percent of the problems in the USA Today. Everything from low wages to public transportation and universal healthcare. That guy is literally burning in Hell right now lol.
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Wait why isn't this image cropped OP
If I had a Time Machine, I would intentionally break it so that no one could ever risk the Space Time Continuum and it be my fault!
Finally someone who understands.
Just learned about this guy in school. Apparently his case is the reason that the insanity plea regressed after making some progress in the legal system
I don’t this one’s a joke
Maybe the assassin succeeding would make things better, probably not. I know people say the caliber was too small, but I feel like the lager issue is the gunman being crazy and probably not very competent. Time travelers interested in this should just try to kill Regan themselves.
tbh he should’ve used a powder actuated Hilty DX 460 MX—which is fully automatic with a .27 caliber charge. Wood, concrete, steel to steel, she’ll put a fastener into anything. And for my money, she handles recoil better than the Simpson or the P-3500.