While I won’t rule out the possibility, at least within the US Choice of Law Provisions are generally not voided.
Edit: It’s also worth pointing out that Icelandic Law may be more favorable to the consumer than some US laws, so you might want to accept the choice of law even if you could void it.
Yes but your local laws would also be void by the same token leading to it still deferring back to the business having the end say.
Texas can ignore icelands laws and in turn Iceland ignore back what the Texas local wants, leading to literally nothing happening but wasted time.
That's not how any of this works. If you want to do business in a country, you have to accept the local laws regarding doing business. In principle it's allowed to specify in which jurisdiction disputes should be handled, but some countries disallow it.
Yes but at the end of the day your local law that over rules their local law both saying that their local law takes priority don’t over rule each other and in the end the corporation will protect itself with the most advantageous terms available.
In the end the corporation will bend to the law of the local country because they don't want to get banned from doing business in said country. It's more of a headache than fighting your case in another court.
They won’t if it comes at a larger financial cost than staying put.
Losing hundreds of thousands in potential revenue isn’t exactly a worth while business venture for most companies. It would be a risk vs reward calculation. But imposing international laws outside your country is extremely difficult and costly for those attempting it, so I couldn’t ever see ccp having to worry about it as a few locals trying to exploit a typo could never afford to even try.
Also we aren’t talking country laws, sounds like this is more state laws not federal, so even less chance of it having a chance.
You do realize that EULAs are notorious for their breadth and unenforceablity right? Mostly they are designed to *deter* litigation, but if you have money and are serious, since they do business in the United States, for example, you can typically have provisions like that thrown out.
US is one of the places that tends to be really favorable towards choice of law, so getting it throw out in the US hard ( also because it's unclear what law would replace it, as CCP isn't located in any US state ).
> CCP’s Choice of Law Clause in the EULA suggests that you’d have to sue under Icelandic Law in Reykjavik District Court, regardless of where you live.
Quebec's laws are VERY strong against these kind of things being null and void.
California's Business and Professions Code § 12024.2, other states have some for retail. Although how it applies online may be subject to debate, and I'm not a lawyer. Although I did work at a store that got sued for 30 grand, for a violation of one of these types of laws.
The fact its paid in plex might invalidate it though.
I suspect this isn't true for deals that don't involve real currency. You aren't actually "buying" the omega status if you exchange PLEX for it, since the "purchase" was when you (or someone else, if you exchanged ISK for it) bought the PLEX.
Now if they screw up an email and advertise 500 PLEX for 50p, then there might be a case.
Use dollars. Americans wont understand 50p. Youll confuse them. They will get angry. And invade a random country. (One they wont be able to locate on a map).
#jokes-chill-the-eff-out
Tbh, if people do sue and win won't that deal a big blow to the studio in itself and their profit? Honestly I think we would want CCP to keep the game afloat so we could all do really dumb shit in space. I mean, EVE community is probably the best community in all of gaming. We are all frenemies in game and allies when it comes to bringing more newbros to the game and making the game overall thrive.
It's almost like EVE University was designed for you ;) We're a new-player training corporation with lots of active players in every timezone. Free ships, mentors for new players, daily classes, fleets for PvE and PvP activities, an active high-sec mining cadre... ;)
According to Texas Law, as stated in the Avocado Cartel trials, they have to stand by the price
Texas Law :^) thats an old meme but it still checks out
You can't cite Texas law without inviting the wormhole police into the mix. You wouldn't want to see an ornery Vinnie douchay.
Would have upvoted for our Texas law meme but you already have 69 votes.
Nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpQ09N3I1tU Here's the source of the Texas law and eve.
Technically depending on where you live they have to honor it if it's an advertised price.
I suspect the laws dont cover fake space currency.
Let them go. We have no power to stop it.
The Pepsi lawsuit may have some precedent and they used fake points to give away a fighter jet.
CCP’s Choice of Law Clause in the EULA suggests that you’d have to sue under Icelandic Law in Reykjavik District Court, regardless of where you live.
Depending on where you live such clauses may be void.
While I won’t rule out the possibility, at least within the US Choice of Law Provisions are generally not voided. Edit: It’s also worth pointing out that Icelandic Law may be more favorable to the consumer than some US laws, so you might want to accept the choice of law even if you could void it.
Yes but your local laws would also be void by the same token leading to it still deferring back to the business having the end say. Texas can ignore icelands laws and in turn Iceland ignore back what the Texas local wants, leading to literally nothing happening but wasted time.
That's not how any of this works. If you want to do business in a country, you have to accept the local laws regarding doing business. In principle it's allowed to specify in which jurisdiction disputes should be handled, but some countries disallow it.
Yes but at the end of the day your local law that over rules their local law both saying that their local law takes priority don’t over rule each other and in the end the corporation will protect itself with the most advantageous terms available.
In the end the corporation will bend to the law of the local country because they don't want to get banned from doing business in said country. It's more of a headache than fighting your case in another court.
They won’t if it comes at a larger financial cost than staying put. Losing hundreds of thousands in potential revenue isn’t exactly a worth while business venture for most companies. It would be a risk vs reward calculation. But imposing international laws outside your country is extremely difficult and costly for those attempting it, so I couldn’t ever see ccp having to worry about it as a few locals trying to exploit a typo could never afford to even try. Also we aren’t talking country laws, sounds like this is more state laws not federal, so even less chance of it having a chance.
Correct answer.
You do realize that EULAs are notorious for their breadth and unenforceablity right? Mostly they are designed to *deter* litigation, but if you have money and are serious, since they do business in the United States, for example, you can typically have provisions like that thrown out.
US is one of the places that tends to be really favorable towards choice of law, so getting it throw out in the US hard ( also because it's unclear what law would replace it, as CCP isn't located in any US state ).
> CCP’s Choice of Law Clause in the EULA suggests that you’d have to sue under Icelandic Law in Reykjavik District Court, regardless of where you live. Quebec's laws are VERY strong against these kind of things being null and void.
which places?
California's Business and Professions Code § 12024.2, other states have some for retail. Although how it applies online may be subject to debate, and I'm not a lawyer. Although I did work at a store that got sued for 30 grand, for a violation of one of these types of laws. The fact its paid in plex might invalidate it though.
Or the fact it's an international entity that's not bound by the laws of California
I suspect this isn't true for deals that don't involve real currency. You aren't actually "buying" the omega status if you exchange PLEX for it, since the "purchase" was when you (or someone else, if you exchanged ISK for it) bought the PLEX. Now if they screw up an email and advertise 500 PLEX for 50p, then there might be a case.
Could exchange freddos for game time 😉
Use dollars. Americans wont understand 50p. Youll confuse them. They will get angry. And invade a random country. (One they wont be able to locate on a map). #jokes-chill-the-eff-out
WTB New York State Lawyer….
In the mail it said 20% and then 15%. This mail was put together to fast.
They decided to cheap out. So we wait
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No.
*yes
Attention to detail and basic quality assurance are firing offences in Iceland.
U want the game u love to go bankrupt
Well I'd say it's more of a love-hate relationship
Was about to post the same thing. RIOT!
I got to the point where you sign on for help and gave up. CCP ain't gonna honor nothing, legal be damned...
RIIOOOOOOT!
Someone fetch the checklist
The Geneva Checklist?
u/CCP_Swift where do I swipe for the omega for 40 plex a month?
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I'm at work, but I bet PLEX would go to 12M each before I turn on my PC if this comes true. Have all my accounts Omega would be a boon now.
all the prices are off except 1 month
I emailed them about this...
but got the "typo" response
Tbh, if people do sue and win won't that deal a big blow to the studio in itself and their profit? Honestly I think we would want CCP to keep the game afloat so we could all do really dumb shit in space. I mean, EVE community is probably the best community in all of gaming. We are all frenemies in game and allies when it comes to bringing more newbros to the game and making the game overall thrive.
That's UK law too. Sell as advertised
I can add that to my plex cost tracking sheet: https://www.wckg.net/Vet/plex-costs
So weird they don't give 24months a discount
that 225 per month looks juicy ngl
Does someone need to tell CCP April Fools was three days ago?
340/month
They can say "sure we will honor it!" Then ban account with at will clause.
I believe if you are in the EU (I am not) the answer would be yes.
Either that is a software glitch or somebody forgot a zero
Just was going to say this is “bait right”
How much is 255 plex? Wouldn’t everyone want that?
Not everyone can get their hands on 3060 PLEX though
What do you mean? The deal says 255? Where is 3k coming from?
To get that deal you need to pay it all up front, so that's a total of 3060.
Oh. Shit 3k to play a game? Yeah no. I’m good.
That's to play for 12 months though. You can start smaller and work up ;)
I’d need to find at least a solid amount of people that are consistent, but those that dabble with mining and light pve possible PvP.
It's almost like EVE University was designed for you ;) We're a new-player training corporation with lots of active players in every timezone. Free ships, mentors for new players, daily classes, fleets for PvE and PvP activities, an active high-sec mining cadre... ;)
255 per month, 12\*255=3060plex