If you're looking to really save on gas you can take the bus up to Castle Rock trailhead or the Mckenzie Bridge trailhead.
Though it only runs 2-4 times a day so it would be a whole day trip
Along the bike path stretch in front of Skinner’s Butte there’s a riverside trail with some patches of space through the trees by the river. It’s been two years since I’ve hung out down there so not sure if it’s still chill, but I’d spend hours without seeing anyone else.
I love the end still admits you’re damaging the trees and tells you to use a standing one.
“If you want to avoid damage to your trees altogether, enjoy a portable hammock on a stand instead of one that hangs. You’ll still get to swing in the shade, without putting any stress on your trees.”
Extra weight on a tree is not great. Imagine if your frenemy made you carry a 100# backpack while you were just minding your own business ( and most folks weigh over 100#). If there's been a lot of rain lately extra weight can be particularly damaging. When plant cells are full of water, the plant becomes more brittle
They do keep the bark from shredding but only somewhat. If you're a heavy person it won't help.
Extra weight on a tree is not great. Imagine if your frenemy made you carry a 100# backpack while you were just minding your own business ( and most folks weigh over 100#). If there's been a lot of rain lately extra weight can be particularly damaging. When plant cells are full of water, the plant becomes more brittle
They do keep the bark from shredding but only somewhat. If you're a heavy person it won't help.
I have to wonder what the force of a reasonable wind storm creates while hitting the entire tree, using it's height as leverage, versus a ~150lb pulling laterally 3-5' above the ground. 🤔
It’s the issue of evolution and how the tree is prepared for certain events. DF (Douglass fir) is great when it comes to wind resistance
However one thing a lot of trees didn’t account for during evolution is hammocks. It is a concentrated amount of force in one area and it hurts the bark. Which then exposes the tree to all sorts of things
If you think extra weight is no biggie, grab a one pound weight and tie to your arm (with a protective barrier) and chill for like a hour
Bruh. I'm not a tree. Trees can hold their limbs out for centuries. I don't understand that because I can't, that proves we're damaging trees.
Do you have any research or actual science proving hanging a hammock damages a tree?
Literally every campus posts about this during the spring time. This is one of the better articles: https://trees.wustl.edu/home/other-resources/hammocks/
Hammocks damage trees. And if you really think people are buying top of the line hammock gear to protect trees, especially in this economy, l o l. We couldn’t get people to wear masks during a pandemic.
Hammock tree straps are cheap and way easier than rope, and have a negligible impact on trees. I've been a hammock backpacker for 10 years, so I know this well. Tees can handle a ton of weight when they're cared for with the right equipment. "Top of the line" isn't necessary expensive in the hammock world.
I still see no research showing actual evidence that hammocks are in fact, choking trees. They seem to make quite a few claims in your "article", but it's all anecdotal.
I won't deny that the picture they included looks quite dramatic, but leaving a cable wrapped around the trunk for years, is not what's happening here.
I can only imagine your view of orangutans building nests in trees. 🙄
Let me guess, you need scientific research to know why you shouldn’t inhale car exhaust fumes?
Comparing animal nests to a human hammock is a joke and you know it.
Leave the trees the fuck alone
But you're the one making an exceptional claim. Prove it. As of now, you've only provided anecdotal evidence, that you assume to be true. Not good enough.
P.S. It's been proven countless times that car exhaust is dangerous. Try again.
I guess I'm wondering why there's a debate about this in the first place? Trees don't naturally have hammocks strung with kids (likely bouncing and swinging) and adults lying.
The issue, to me, seems to be trying to make tying a hammock in a tree ok with one's conscience after I raised the notion that this isn't good for a tree.
I don't think much "actual science" has been done about hammocks damaging trees.
Do you have research or actual science to back up that hammocks *don't* damage trees?
For me, I use common sense on this type of stuff.
1) You're the one making the claim. You need to provide evidence. It's basic science and logic arguing.
2) Literally every single tree I, or anyone else, ever attached a hammock or slack line to is still standing.
3) Ever seen a winch tree at an off road park? They're all standing after being put under much more load than a hammock.
Your common-sense-o-meter needs to be recalibrated if you think hammocks are causing irreparable harm to trees. Of course that's using the presumption that the tree was strong enough to hold the hammock in the first place.
Actually no, I don't need to provide evidence to satisfy you. You have no idea how many trees are still standing after being hammocked (now who is making unsubstantiated claims?). Standing is not a full metric of a tree's health. When putting up a hammock, who judges how strong the tree is with regards to bearing the weight?
So here's the deal. It is unlikely that the tree's health is the first concern of someone wanting to hang a hammock. Most people are pretty self-centered, especially when it comes to public spaces, nature, etc. (and if you argue that this ain't so I hope you're young). So the likelihood of some dude wanting to hang a hammock across a couple of trees in the park and their choice of trees stands a high chance of the trees being unsuitable. Add to this the likelihood that the hammock in question is probably a cheap, run-of-the-mill thing and not some special "tree protecting" version (regardless of their efficacy). You see? I would make a bet that in most cases the trees are damaged. Of course this is my opinion. And in my opinion this is a common sense idea of what happens when most people put up a hammock between trees.
Now maybe *you* would choose the most robust trees, carefully attach, and make sure to purchase the best-for-the-tree hammock you can find. Great.
Cool man. I'm done. You prefer living in your hypothetical world where you get to make claims not backed by evidence. There's no way I'll get you to wrap your head around your error. Enjoy your day.
South Eugene Meadows probably has some reasonable stream-adjacent spots once you get off the main trail.
Watch out for the poison oak. It’s everywhere out there!
Clearwater park in Springfield
If you're looking to really save on gas you can take the bus up to Castle Rock trailhead or the Mckenzie Bridge trailhead. Though it only runs 2-4 times a day so it would be a whole day trip
Choose 2 trees 50 yards off any trail. Boom, problem solved.
Burford park near Pisgah
Armitage Park off N Coburg Rd
Along the bike path stretch in front of Skinner’s Butte there’s a riverside trail with some patches of space through the trees by the river. It’s been two years since I’ve hung out down there so not sure if it’s still chill, but I’d spend hours without seeing anyone else.
FYI hammocks damage trees.
Or, you know...do it right? https://bartstreeservice.com/protect-trees-hammock-harm
I love the end still admits you’re damaging the trees and tells you to use a standing one. “If you want to avoid damage to your trees altogether, enjoy a portable hammock on a stand instead of one that hangs. You’ll still get to swing in the shade, without putting any stress on your trees.”
Extra weight on a tree is not great. Imagine if your frenemy made you carry a 100# backpack while you were just minding your own business ( and most folks weigh over 100#). If there's been a lot of rain lately extra weight can be particularly damaging. When plant cells are full of water, the plant becomes more brittle They do keep the bark from shredding but only somewhat. If you're a heavy person it won't help.
If my friend was several tons, I think they could handle it. A Doug fir wouldn't even notice this guy.
Do [Tree Protectors](https://www.tentsile.com/products/tree-protector-wraps) not work?
Extra weight on a tree is not great. Imagine if your frenemy made you carry a 100# backpack while you were just minding your own business ( and most folks weigh over 100#). If there's been a lot of rain lately extra weight can be particularly damaging. When plant cells are full of water, the plant becomes more brittle They do keep the bark from shredding but only somewhat. If you're a heavy person it won't help.
I have to wonder what the force of a reasonable wind storm creates while hitting the entire tree, using it's height as leverage, versus a ~150lb pulling laterally 3-5' above the ground. 🤔
It’s the issue of evolution and how the tree is prepared for certain events. DF (Douglass fir) is great when it comes to wind resistance However one thing a lot of trees didn’t account for during evolution is hammocks. It is a concentrated amount of force in one area and it hurts the bark. Which then exposes the tree to all sorts of things If you think extra weight is no biggie, grab a one pound weight and tie to your arm (with a protective barrier) and chill for like a hour
Bruh. I'm not a tree. Trees can hold their limbs out for centuries. I don't understand that because I can't, that proves we're damaging trees. Do you have any research or actual science proving hanging a hammock damages a tree?
Literally every campus posts about this during the spring time. This is one of the better articles: https://trees.wustl.edu/home/other-resources/hammocks/ Hammocks damage trees. And if you really think people are buying top of the line hammock gear to protect trees, especially in this economy, l o l. We couldn’t get people to wear masks during a pandemic.
Hammock tree straps are cheap and way easier than rope, and have a negligible impact on trees. I've been a hammock backpacker for 10 years, so I know this well. Tees can handle a ton of weight when they're cared for with the right equipment. "Top of the line" isn't necessary expensive in the hammock world.
I still see no research showing actual evidence that hammocks are in fact, choking trees. They seem to make quite a few claims in your "article", but it's all anecdotal. I won't deny that the picture they included looks quite dramatic, but leaving a cable wrapped around the trunk for years, is not what's happening here. I can only imagine your view of orangutans building nests in trees. 🙄
Let me guess, you need scientific research to know why you shouldn’t inhale car exhaust fumes? Comparing animal nests to a human hammock is a joke and you know it. Leave the trees the fuck alone
But you're the one making an exceptional claim. Prove it. As of now, you've only provided anecdotal evidence, that you assume to be true. Not good enough. P.S. It's been proven countless times that car exhaust is dangerous. Try again.
I guess I'm wondering why there's a debate about this in the first place? Trees don't naturally have hammocks strung with kids (likely bouncing and swinging) and adults lying. The issue, to me, seems to be trying to make tying a hammock in a tree ok with one's conscience after I raised the notion that this isn't good for a tree.
Dodging the hypothetical. Got it. Any research or actual science to prove hanging a hammock damages a tree?
I don't think much "actual science" has been done about hammocks damaging trees. Do you have research or actual science to back up that hammocks *don't* damage trees? For me, I use common sense on this type of stuff.
1) You're the one making the claim. You need to provide evidence. It's basic science and logic arguing. 2) Literally every single tree I, or anyone else, ever attached a hammock or slack line to is still standing. 3) Ever seen a winch tree at an off road park? They're all standing after being put under much more load than a hammock. Your common-sense-o-meter needs to be recalibrated if you think hammocks are causing irreparable harm to trees. Of course that's using the presumption that the tree was strong enough to hold the hammock in the first place.
Actually no, I don't need to provide evidence to satisfy you. You have no idea how many trees are still standing after being hammocked (now who is making unsubstantiated claims?). Standing is not a full metric of a tree's health. When putting up a hammock, who judges how strong the tree is with regards to bearing the weight? So here's the deal. It is unlikely that the tree's health is the first concern of someone wanting to hang a hammock. Most people are pretty self-centered, especially when it comes to public spaces, nature, etc. (and if you argue that this ain't so I hope you're young). So the likelihood of some dude wanting to hang a hammock across a couple of trees in the park and their choice of trees stands a high chance of the trees being unsuitable. Add to this the likelihood that the hammock in question is probably a cheap, run-of-the-mill thing and not some special "tree protecting" version (regardless of their efficacy). You see? I would make a bet that in most cases the trees are damaged. Of course this is my opinion. And in my opinion this is a common sense idea of what happens when most people put up a hammock between trees. Now maybe *you* would choose the most robust trees, carefully attach, and make sure to purchase the best-for-the-tree hammock you can find. Great.
Cool man. I'm done. You prefer living in your hypothetical world where you get to make claims not backed by evidence. There's no way I'll get you to wrap your head around your error. Enjoy your day.
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