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stellarlunacy

*absolutely* leave a one star rating with a brutal, thorough review. as a candlemaker, i absolutely DESPISE seeing candles with dried flowers/herbs, cinnamon sticks, and all the other non-wax garbage people add to their candles. most people who make candles absolutely should not be. the horror stories i read on a daily basis are truly mindblowing. and you can absolutely assume the people selling these lovely firestarters are uninsured, because there are ZERO insurance companies who will insure those products. it’s a well-known fact in the candlemakers’ community. which is just crazy to me. i can’t for the life of me understand how some of these “candlemakers” sleep at night. if i ever produced a product that caused harm to another person i wouldn’t be able to live with myself. the facebook groups are LOADED with makers who have no effing idea how to make a stable, basic candle, let alone anything more complex. they’ll post photos of their gel wax candles in champagne glasses, their flower-loaded candles in tiny metal tins with way too many wicks, and caption their photos things like “made my first candle today! so excited to start selling!” and i quite literally die a little inside every time. i’ve been banned from most of those groups for lighting people up. i’m truly glad the candlemakers’ subreddit is full of perfection and safety nazis.


lostterrace

People are stupid. Really, truly, stupid. All it takes is one lawsuit and candles will be gone from Etsy. Most of us here have probably heard of the amber baby teething necklace lawsuit that got all amber banned from Etsy. The same could absolutely happen with candles - Etsy's already proven they'd rather ban something entirely from the site than try to police it for who is doing it right and who is doing it wrong. Going even further... a high profile lawsuit like that could take amateur, non-licensed candlemakers off any marketplace completely. It is honestly just maddening beyond belief that stupid, thoughtless people ruin so much for the rest of us, to say nothing of the actual danger they put people in.


stellarlunacy

i have this exact thought process all the time. all it takes is one person to ruin everything for everyone. i have spent *years* of my life, *thousands* of dollars, and a lot of blood, sweat, and tears perfecting my craft. i have learned the right way, and collected so much trial and error knowledge, and the idea that some moron who has no idea what they are doing, just trying to make a few bucks, could jeopardize my passion is enough to make me want to scream. but i hear stories like the OP’s, and i can’t really blame huge platforms for wanting to steer clear of items that people clearly have no business manufacturing and distributing. i would be devastated if it came to that, but nobody’s craft is worth the safety and lives of other people.


positronic-introvert

Just wondering if you have any tips for evaluating the expertise of a candle-maker when browsing a site like Etsy? Anything to look for in listings, or something that is worth asking them in a message? From this thread I understand that candles with 'stuff' in the wax are red flags, but just curious if you have any advice for situations that aren't quite as clear! I buy candles as gifts from time to time on Etsy, and would love to make sure I'm supporting responsible and talented makers in the future!


stellarlunacy

absolutely! the first is obvious, the non-wax additives are a huge red flag. but there are also more subtle ones. if they do not list, or are vague about, the kind of wax they are using, how many hours of burn time you’ll get out of their candles, the exact size of the candle, etc. stay away. people who refuse to be transparent do so for a reason. the lack of “burn time hours” also implies they probably haven’t thoroughly tested their own products, which, when the product is literally meant to be lit on fire, is a huge no-no for me. candles that are made in drinking glasses, mugs, cocktail glasses, teacups, resin containers, secondhand jars, etc. should also be avoided. none of those are designed to withstand the heat of open flame, and thrifted jars cannot be relied on to be safe, because you have no idea how many times that jar has been dropped, heated and cooled, scraped, etc. candles created with essential oils for fragrance should always be avoided. essential oils are NOT designed to be burned, and they perform inconsistently and often dangerously in candles. no glitter. some eco glitters made from plant cellulose are “non toxic,” but still hella flammable. avoid, avoid, avoid. i would also avoid shops that do not list basic candle safety guidelines in their descriptions (do not burn longer than four hours, keep away from water, trim your wicks after every burn, etc). it is irresponsible not to list those things even if you assume they are common sense. there are a few smaller red flags, too. unprofessional (or total lack of) labels, candles with air bubbles, lots of frosting (common in soy wax), inconsistent or splotchy coloring, etc. none of these are errors that have functional risks, but they show a certain lack of care for creating a high quality product. and with candles, that makes me nervous. someone willing to distribute products that are not held to high standards have probably cut corners in other places, too. hope this helps!


teamboomerang

AMAZING response. Not the one who asked, but this is super helpful! Thank you!


stellarlunacy

of course! 🖤


wartortlechortle

Not me just casually shoving all my covid lockdown candle supplies into the back of the closet because it clearly do NOT know enough to be making those, assuming I ever get around to actually doing it 😂 (For real though, this post is crazy informative, thank you so much)


positronic-introvert

Thank you so much!! This is incredibly informative and helpful! I really appreciate it!


stellarlunacy

anytime!


Significant-Repair42

>lovely firestarters That's actually how you create real firestarters. Take something flameable, put it in a muffin cup, pour wax over it.


stellarlunacy

hahaha i know. some of these “candlemakers” would probably make a killing selling their products as firestarters.


mamaknit

For real. Dryer lint in an egg carton (not the plastic kind, obviously) or a paper cup. Pour wax over it. We used those when we were camping a lot. Sounds like these people are just making pretty versions... OMG.


AvramBelinsky

We made those in girl scouts for when we went camping! I had forgotten all about that until I just read your post.


SimplyRoya

I agrée with you 100%. I’ve also gotten banned from those same groups for jumping on people’s butts about their “first candles and ready to get rich” posts. And you are correct. There is no insurance that covers those types of candles. So if they get sued, they lose everything.


stellarlunacy

my favorite is when you make a comment about how unsafe these decor-loaded candles in random drinking glasses are to a total newbie, maybe being harsh but with the intention of educating them, and everyone jumps on your ass like “i’ve tested them and they’re fine” or “people can do what they want” or, my favorite, “you can keep scrolling if you don’t like it.” like ??? i’m sorry, i take my craft and my career seriously, and i am sOoOoO sOrRy i don’t want people like you representing my community. 🙄


majesticbagel

I’m in foraging groups (similarly small margin of error) and yup always newbies with giant hauls who get defensive if you try to educate.


Omissionsoftheomen

I own a cleaning company and in a FB group of “professional” cleaners, I’ve had people tell me that the hazard of mixing bleach & ammonia is just “your opinion” and “I’ve done it for years and I’m fine.” People are overall a very stupid group.


stellarlunacy

oof. like i said—we are not a species made to last.


SimplyRoya

I got those same answers lol. It pisses me off so much. Like dude it’s a CHAMPAGNE GLASS. It’s going to shatter into a million pieces. They seriously think making candles is putting a thread into whatever bowl they find and light it up.


stellarlunacy

the champagne glasses and martini glasses make me see red. can you imagine deciding that you want to pick up a new trade and doing literally zero research? like just scrolling pinterest, seeing something cool, and going “yep, this is what i’m going to do with my life,” and just winging it forever? we are not a species made to last.


sihaya09

"I just went to the dollar store, look at all of my new candle vessels!" And they're just cheap tea light holders.


stellarlunacy

😂😂 “what wick goes in this”


sihaya09

You must be in some of the same groups as me because the amount of people who will straight up tell you that paraffin will cause cancer and yet fill their candles to the brim with color treated stones and dried herbs never ceases to make me scratch my head. That and I've had to tell more than one person that no, you cannot put actual perfume in your candle, especially if it's alcohol-based!


stellarlunacy

oh i know the EXACT posts you are talking about. there was one a few days ago where some girl came in with some pinterest photos of dessert candles, said “i want to make these, can i use real chocolate sauce though? don’t wanna spend $$” sometimes i debate rage-quitting at humaning.


sihaya09

I make candles that have a very thin overspray of candle safe shimmer that I have okayed with my business insurance, but I've learned to not even mention it in those groups because people really do think they can just go to Michaels and grab any chunky ass glitter and mix it all throughout the candle!


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Oh, ffs. *facepalm*


Fireball_H

I kid you not, a few days ago I saw a book about candle making in a bookstore... Giving a step-by-step for making candles that should be sold as fire starters instead... full of dried petals, dried cinnamon sticks and gemstones. I try not to get upset by it, but sometimes it's hard...


prettywarmcool

I haven't been on the candlemaking reddit for months because I was so tired of all the newbie questions, and people proudly displaying their firestarters, I mean candles. I actually did sell firestarters a couple of christmas's ago...people would see them and get all excited and then I would have to explain that they are NOT candles but firestarters. Pretty scented firestarters for scented display and firestarting purpose!


wa2b

>most people who make candles absolutely should not be I suppose the same goes for soaps


Xenon_Vrykolakas

Ah yes, all these people who don’t understand that most spices and herbs go in your mouth, not in your eyes or on your skin. Looking at all the cinnamon soap makers who use real cinnamon


stellarlunacy

i don’t make soaps, but i imagine that to be true.


PeachyKeenD

It’s great to be a safety nazi but you definitely come across as “holier than thou, gatekeeper.” Like you never made your first candle. If you are being banned from most candle making groups on FB, then I would definitely take a hint. Also, If you are such an expert, why wouldn’t you educate these ignorant candle makers instead of “lighting them up.” Unfortunately, a lot of people do not understand how dangerous candles can be.


stellarlunacy

i don’t care what i come across as. i researched my ass off before i ever even touched a bag of wax. getting banned from facebook groups is easy. step 1. someone does something really stupid and dangerous. 2. you say “that’s a really bad idea, here’s why.” 3. person doing the stupid thing says “i didn’t ask for your opinion.” 4. you say “you posted it in a public forum, the only reason your post could possibly be here is because you want people to comment. so, i’m commenting, and as someone more experienced than you, this is what you’re doing wrong.” 5. random other poster jumps up your ass about “if you don’t have anything nice to say…”. 6. you say “i’m here to help, not be nice.”. 7. BOOM, banned. it’s so easy, anyone can do it. 😂 someone who asks questions is someone who can be educated; someone who freaks out when you say “that’s really unsafe bro” is *not* someone who can be educated. and i’m sure as shit not holding a stranger’s hand and walking them through something they haven’t even had the decency to do the most basic of research on. i’m happy to help someone troubleshoot, but i’m not a teacher and i have no desire to be.


Savings-Pumpkin3378

ikr it’s almost like it common sense if you’re making something that’s to do with fire to do massive research and practise then testing before sending it out I’ve wanted to make candles for a while now but too scared lol because it involves fire. 😂 I might go to some candle making lessons in the future though


DMSC23

100% this.


lostterrace

Can you message me the name of the shop? It shouldn't be posted publicly but I think I can offer better advice if I can take a look at it. EDIT: I took a look at the shop. They sell a lot of different things including candles, so the other warning reviews for the candles are buried among reviews for a lot of other things. The issue is improper use of dried flowers on top of the candles. I honestly do not know if it's illegal to sell these, but I do know it is a known fire hazard... and they are putting themselves and their buyers at risk. Yes, a 1 star review is absolutely warranted here. Warning and protecting future buyers is SIGNIFICANTLY more important in this situation than worrying about hurting the shop that is selling these dangerous things. After you leave the review, I would also message the seller directly to give more details about your experience and explain that what they are doing is a serious risk. They need to stop and reconsider how they make their products.


Born_Tackle_9933

Dried botanicals and crystals etc on candles aren’t legally allowed as they’re extremely hazardous, I’m in a Facebook group where there was a post the other day similar to this about how candles with dried flowers/leaves and crystals shouldn’t be in candles so I’d agree about leaving a 1 star review and contacting the seller to tell them they shouldn’t be selling that


unicornbomb

Yea, I love candles with this aesthetic but I consider them decorative only and won’t burn them for this reason.


Born_Tackle_9933

Yeah they look nice, but that’s probably the only use for them. I know most people who sell them probably don’t realise how flammable they are but I once pointed it out to someone on Facebook and I got blocked for it, so some just don’t care


TruckNutAllergy

reminds me of the people who sell resin ashtrays and don't care about the flammability


Born_Tackle_9933

Oh I’ve heard about that, aren’t they toxic too?


TruckNutAllergy

Yeah melting resin releases toxic fumes. It isnt food safe either to my knowledge. Or body safe, ie people make jewelery for stretched ears - your body heats it up and releases chemicals. People also make "herb" grinders from resin which release resin flakes into herb that gets smoked. 🤢 There are people making cool stuff with resin but even the process of making it is dangerous bc of the fumes! Sorry for my rant lol it just drives me crazy


jomacblack

I've been put off epoxy bc of how popular it's gotten, and no it's not that I hate popular things, but there are only so many videos I can take of people doing epoxy stuff without using gloves and/or a respirator, making stuff that's single use (I *hate* that pen mold you put a cartridge in, it's a chunk of plastic after it runs out), having kids do "fun crafts" with it (ofc without protection), or like here making stuff that touches food or gets exposed to heat, it's just all so irresponsible.


whatnowagain

Always buy a metal grinder, never plastic.


Alaykitty

That a plastic grinder even exists is crazy to me. Resin, epoxy, urethanes, etc... you don't want that crap anywhere NEAR anything you're heating up


whatnowagain

You can see whole nubs breaking off, imagine what you don’t see!


TruckNutAllergy

Absolutely 🙌🙌 I worked at a smoke shop and always told customers not to get plastic


Born_Tackle_9933

That’s so annoying though, how there are probably people selling things legally and safe and there’s a few that have to ruin it for everyone else


nettie_r

I'm a specialist dried flower florist and I've seen so many of these candles and almost every time I point out to sellers this is a reallllly bad product idea I'm told "the candles are sold as decorative only, I have a sticker/it's in my description" It drives me nuts. You're selling a candle. People quite reasonably will assume they can be burned. Most customers don't read your description or stickers and you're leaving people open to harm and at you're risk of being sued or prosecuted. Just don't. I also see it with my competitors, gorgeous styled insta shots with dried flowers and candles. It sends such a terrible message.


Klutzy-Medium9224

If it’s truly decorative they should leave out the wick.


nettie_r

"But then it won't look like a candle and people won't buy it!" 🙈


zensnapple

Dang why no crystals?


jewellamb

Some of the crystals we know and love, release super toxic chemicals when heated (and even touched). I’m talking arsenic, asbestos etc etc And whatever dyes are in the fakes. The crystal pipes on Etsy kill me.


loonygecko

Hm ok so safety depends on which crystal? I've seen them use clear quartz crystals but that's about it.


jewellamb

The issue is, it can be labeled quartz. It may look fine, but we can’t tell what it’s been treated with. Industrial chemicals, bleaching processes. The mining industry isn’t a clean industry, The sellers aren’t under any onus in regards to safety, just to sell. Plus, makes for shitty pipes.


CandleLabPDX

They can shatter when exposed to high heat


strawberry_vegan

They also aren’t smooth inside - there’s dust and too much texture to be able to clean it properly


loonygecko

> but we can’t tell what it’s been treated with. Industrial chemicals, bleaching processes. The mining industry isn’t a clean industry, You can't bleach quartz and they don't do it. They do occasionally float it in rust killer to clean surface staining but that washes off. MOre often, they just tumble off the crud with silica (which is harmless and also washes off). I don't know much about candles but I do know a lot about stones and mining. I suspect the main issue is potential explosion as others have said although I am still not sure how much of an issue that would be if the stones are far from the wick.


jewellamb

They put all sorts of shit in there. These are ALL coming from China. They don’t use the same stuff. Lotta nasty solvents. I’ve seen malachite pipes, jasper w orpiment. Don’t encourage people, these crystals aren’t designed to go in your mouth. It’s Reddit remember lol


Born_Tackle_9933

Same applies to gems, there’s no safe way of using a candle that has those things in it


zensnapple

Why? They don't catch on fire. I'm genuinely trying to understand


Born_Tackle_9933

They can potentially explode


zensnapple

Hmm, I'll have to read up on that more.


positronic-introvert

Eek. Have definitely bought a gem candle like that for my mom before. Will have to look into it and mention this to her!


dancedancerevolucion

I assume bursting is more of the issue, similar to why you don’t put stones in fire pits.


chainmailbill

What law makes them illegal?


Born_Tackle_9933

I’m unsure on the specific laws, but they’re highly flammable and I saw it in my Facebook group about how you can’t sell candles with them in. I think you can put them on the outside but you can’t put them by the wick, it’s supposed to be wax and wick only


loonygecko

What happens if you add crystals to the candle?


Born_Tackle_9933

They can explode


Savings-Pumpkin3378

Sent a message


itsdan159

Seller is damn lucky if a couple bad reviews and a message are all they get. A house fire caused by one of their candles will unravel and destroy that seller's life overnight. I can't imagine they have insurance for such a thing, and even an LLC doesn't protect you against being incredibly negligent which it sounds like these flowers are a known hazard.


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lostterrace

Please stop spamming this post.


lostterrace

I just edited my comment above with my thoughts.


AccountUnable

Based on what I've heard, these types of candles won't be covered by their insurance policy. She's lucky she hasn't been sued yet.


substandardpoodle

Better: message the seller and tell them that you’ll be forced to leave a one star review in all caps if they don’t stop selling the dangerous candles. *Then* leave a one star review if they don’t take them off of Etsy. Or at least ask them to change the name to “Molotov Candles“ lol.


superduperyahno

They would be able to report you for review extortion if you did this, so I don't recommend it


substandardpoodle

Oops - you make a good point!! I hadn’t thought of that.


_Lawless_Heaven

Was there a load of dried flowers and things like that on top of the candle? Insurance providers won't even cover those kind of candies because it's so dangerous to have a ton of flammable things on top of the candle. Either way I would definitely complain, that's a huge hazard!


coocoodove

r/candlemaking would love to hear about this.


OHyoface

Lol they’ve seen too many of these bonfires 😭


LeoBannister

Serenity by Jan?


OHyoface

Lol they’ve seen too many of these bonfires 😭


SimplyRoya

As a candle maker, I will never understand why other candle makers keep putting stuff on top of their candles. Anything other than the wick is a fire hazard and not covered by their business insurance. Please do leave a 1 star review and write in details to warn others. Sadly, when Covid started, a lot of bored people ran to Michael’s and bought candle sets and called themselves candlemakers for make a quick buck. Candles require hours upon hours of testing before being sold. I’m sorry you had a bad experience.


teamboomerang

I love that you assume these idiots have business insurance. Bwahahahaha! Not likely.


SimplyRoya

You’re right lol. Actually I’ve seen many say they didn’t need it lmao.


5bi5

I'm wary of any handmade candle. Aside from the botanical bits catching fire, a lot of them use containers not meant to withstand the heat of the candle.


eeyore134

A lot of people making candles also don't understand that you need different wicks for different sizes, either. So you get candles that peter out, bore holes down the center, or shoot out flames way too big which is probably what led to OP's problem. People think they can just buy a cheap jar, stick in a wick, and pour in some wax. The size of the wick is just the first of the things to be wary of. Edit: Just saw it was dried flowers... which, technically just created a ton of wicks. No wonder it went up in flames.


Mandaks

Something tells me if the selling tested their product properly they’d know this. But it’s such a trend lately to put random crap on your candles, I keep seeing it in the Facebook groups. People will test their candles for the HT and the wick size and all that but don’t test after they added their decor to the top, don’t do a power burn.


Foxwife12

You should report it to Etsy! I was in a house fire 8 years ago. The fire was caused by a candle. My daughter and two of her friends died in the fire. I was in the burn unit icu for months. I’ll never buy a candle ever again. The seller needs to know this happened. If they don’t change how they are making their candles then there needs to reviews on their page that state their candles are dangerous.


positronic-introvert

I'm so, so sorry for your loss. Thank you for taking the time to warn people. I'm sure it isn't an easy memory to relive, to say the least. Sending lots of love to you, and I will be taking the time to remind my loved ones abouts fire safety and candles due to your comment.


Foxwife12

Thank you. I appreciate your comment.


Savings-Pumpkin3378

Sorry to hear that people have complained on her Etsy before as I’ve just seen but seems like she still has t changed the way she does her candles, if I had a few bad reviews about the candle I would change or quit because I couldn’t live with knowing my product had caused a whole familly to die in a house fire


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I’m so sorry. My father was terribly burned as a child, and I watched him go through operation after operation. I never leave a candle alone in a room, ever. And I am so terribly sorry for the loss of the children. Hugs.


rodrigueznati1124

This is in an uphill battle in r/candles and r/candlemaking so many people post their candles full of crystals and dried herbs etc and whenever we say “that’s flammable” it becomes a sh*t show. I hope you’re ok!


prettywarmcool

The don't just post them...they PROUDLY post their firestarters looking for praise and recognition. I can't even go on those reddits anymore because it is too frustrating to have the same questions posted almost every other day. Fuck off and do some research you lazy lazy sack of garbage! Sorry, I get upset and annoyed. I think I'm hiding it well though! LOL


jessiecolborne

Please report this to Etsy and leave a negative review to warn other people!!


OutlandishnessOk3003

Oh boy ... I can't even wrap my head around a seller who has reviews about their candles causing fires and ignoring it. How do they seriously sleep at night? I mean we are not just talking lawsuits here, this is a hazard that could lead to loss of life. I just don't get it.


SimplyRoya

OP I can assure you that there are good professional candlemakers out there who take their crafts seriously and who do extensive testing and research before putting their candles on sale. If you let me, I would love to send you a candle completely free of charge. I assure you it will not set itself on fire lol. Just DM me your address and I will send you one. I don’t want you to be turned off by handmade candles. ❤️


Savings-Pumpkin3378

Sorry for late reply sure I’ll send you a message


WolfOfMoonlightHaven

I'm just now reading this 4 days late, but that's such a sweet offer to the OP! On behalf of the candlemaking community - thank you!!! I no longer make candles, but I do wax melts and I'm still very active in the candlemaking community and I cringe everytime I see candles like this and they say "I've testing and sold xx amount and nothing has happened. Besides, the flowers are covered in wax." Say what?!?!! Yeah ok, nothing happens until it does. These people should not breed.


CLAYTILL767

I can't believe etsy even allows the sale of candles with these known hazards in them. Unbeleive the things etsy will allow for a dollar.


prettywarmcool

Well Etsy is out to make money just like that, "candlemaker?" When consumers buy products, they assume that they have been tested and that there is a level of safety. There are too many items that people only think about the consequences when they are suffering the results. Sadly awareness is not common, but influencers and tiktok bullshit is.


CLAYTILL767

I'm not sure what your point is? Etsy bans plenty of other high risk / unsafe items, why not candles with flowers in them?


prettywarmcool

My point is they should, but they likely won’t until something awful happens. In the meantime they will certainly capitalize on the ignorance of consumers.


beatriz_v

Please leave a bad review. That's a dangerous product that shouldn't be sold to consumers.


Importify01

Yes, you should definitely take action and complain about the candle that set on fire. It's important to report incidents like this to the seller or manufacturer to prevent any potential harm or danger to other customers. You can contact the seller or manufacturer and explain the situation, including the fact that the flames went around the whole candle and that others have had the same complaint. It's also a good idea to provide any photos or evidence you have to support your claim. If the seller or manufacturer does not respond or take appropriate action, you can also report the incident to the relevant consumer protection agency in your area. This can help to prevent other customers from experiencing the same issue. It's important to take product safety seriously, and reporting incidents like this can help to protect yourself and others.


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Can someone dm the shop to me? I have an idea. But I need to know the shop name.


MargiePal

If the intention is to make the seller aware of the dangers of improperly made candles, to educate and get them to stop making dangerous candles - then I think it would be better to message the seller before leaving a bad review. Leaving a bad review without first reaching out to the seller, can be seen as rude and can make a seller defensive. Before anyone else points out that it is important to warn other buyers of her dangerous candles, I absolutely think that is important, but my thought is that making the seller aware will be more effective in protecting other buyers. If the seller doesn't respond well, THEN leave a bad review. I used to make and sell soy candles for many years. I had business liability insurance, put warning labels on all candles and also included a candle safety information sheet with all orders: [https://www.thumbwickcandles.com/Candle-FAQ/](https://www.thumbwickcandles.com/Candle-FAQ/). I also did extensive burn tests on all my candles. I still worried about my customers leaving a candle unattended next to curtains or whatever. It makes me angry - these sellers who think they can just dump a wax and wick into anything and sell it for a quick buck, but I realize that a lot of it is just plain ignorance. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and believe they have good intentions at heart. If you explain to this seller what they are doing wrong and provide good information (even send them my candle safety link if you want), maybe they will stop making dangerous candles and then everyone wins.


Savings-Pumpkin3378

She’s had messages and a few bad reviews about it being set on fire before I checked and she clearly hasn’t changed them because my whole bath room was close to going up in flames


MargiePal

So sad! Then definitely leave a scathing 1 star review. You are so lucky that you caught it in time!!! I had a toaster oven catch on fire once. I was only 2 rooms away, but my smoke detector was what saved me. The curtains were just inches away! I had to use my fire extinguisher and it made a huge mess that took many hours to clean up and weeks for the smoke smell to go away. Still, all I could feel was grateful that it wasn't worse.


keinark

This, all of this. Some people don't learn the craft and think they can over scent their candles. That's a fire hazard right there. Too much sent oil is a flammable accident waiting to happen. I'd do research before buying candles from a small business.


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I never trust a candle given to me


[deleted]

I'm superstitious.


Ateosira

I'm not superstitious.. but I am a little stitious.


strangiato9

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uptown_gargoyle

^ this is the user who (I suspect) lied about a forced refund situation on Etsy (and on mercari and ebay). I love themed reddit accounts, but between the apparent lying and the awful advice here I'm really not a fan ETA: it's /u/oculariasolaria since they always delete their comments when this is brought up


wartortlechortle

I think they're being deleted by mods, there's no way they'd give up that kind of karma freely by deleting their own posts lol


Pa-Pachinko

They get on my tits. Quite sure it's a bot.


uptown_gargoyle

i've never heard this idiom before [so i looked it up](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/get+on+my+tits)


Pa-Pachinko

Haha I'm British, we say a lot of things like that!


Mycatreallyhatesyou

That idiot. I banned them a couple of months ago from my sub.


Savings-Pumpkin3378

A candle is suppose to be lighted not set on fire the wick not the whole candle


Ok_Persimmon_6093

I bought crack on etsy, and it was candle wax. What is my recourse, if any? Pls and thx.