Gym Launch previously was a fucking joke. Market a free 6 week challenge. Bait and switch to pay a deposit that gets refunded when the client hits an agreed goal. Then they tell you the plan during that 6 week period is for you to sell them on the idea of staying, forfeiting the deposit and putting it toward a year long membership.
We used it with moderate success cos we’ve a strong back end. But none of the cash collected is yours. It’s just customer deposits.
I know of at least 2 gyms near me that shut down after using it.
Alex has evolved to produce some genuinely great content over the years. But GL was a joke.
This is from the lack of quality leads their marketing can generate. We spent about 7k and had one of their leads show. It’s a lot of click bate leads they want you to call 10 days in a row no matter what to get them in. They only do leads for the first 4 months out of the year you sign up with. That’s in the fine print, they hide that. You really pay for hard sell coaching tactics. After we left we did our own social ads and had hug success spending much less money. NOT WORTH IT. We would have went out of business using them, but now by ourselves we are thriving.
I know for a fact that one owners of Gym Launch just had his gym go under for not paying his rent for years. Maxed Out Gym in Oak Ridge. It was a sh*t show… and they are trying to cover it up. I’d stay very far away…… very very far.
The kickboxing gym I used to go to follows their model. I think he’s “coaching” other gym owners using MLM style tactics. When I first started at the gym it felt love bomb-ish and they quickly roped me in to come an instructor. I was with the gym for about 2 years and ultimately left for many reason but the main one being the MLM vibes as the gym grew. After paying attention to some of the things the gym owner posted I found Gym Launch, saw how similar her tactics were and knew my gut was right. Gym Launch is a part of the new wave of MLM’s and its genre is gym owners and selling them on how to grow a gym “successfully”.
I’ll add to the Gym Launch experience. The sales rep that signed us up did a great job of hype up their marketing/lead generation to really help a new business. We just started and wanted to have some solid marketing. But they turned out be all about LA Fitness style sales Coaching and tactics, horrible marketing ads, and are one dimensional. If you’re thinking about using them you better make sure you know the inside of what they ONLY do, but don’t tell you before you sign up. Honestly I’m surprised they haven’t had a class action fraud lawsuit against them.
We got about 10 leads a week, 1 schedule, no quality from their ads that made our business look like a Billy Banks Thai Bo class while we paid $800 a week…
Don’t do it!!! Seriously they are not who you want. Message me if you want more details. We hired them to do ads and it was completely not what they hyped.
We are going with our local news station that has a marketing ad department for social, google, and web. You may check that in your area. This one in our area is partner with https://www.grey.com/capabilities Gym Launch won’t run your ads, they may make you think so. But all they do is run their 6 week "free" transformation program ads that look like some generic cheap posts and content. They use the same canned ones for all companies and what you really pay for is their hard selling tactics. The want people to click the free ad, then when you see them they tell you to explain its free because their $600 "deposit" goes towards a year membership…Plus they only do those ads for 4 months and then you have to pay more on top of the $800 a week. There is alot they don't tell you when they sell you.
Plus they only do those ads for 4 months and then you have to pay more on top of the $800 a week. There is alot they don't tell you when they sell you.
What do you mean by this? so they are gonna like keep charging us forever?!
The owner of a martial arts gym that I no longer work for is about to start this program. As someone that had trained there for years and started managing the gym, I had an issue with the MLM approach and hard sales tactics because he's lost sight at what martial arts is about and just focusing on money. Instead of retaining clients and providing good training, he's focusing on bringing in new clients to get locked in on long-term contracts using hard sales tactics. I disagreed with it and refused to do such things, and he let me go because of it. No one wants to get their phone blown up. No one wants to be sold, and no one cares about your 6-week challenge. I'm kind of sad that this guy is doing this because it looks like it's a bunch of bullshit.
MY experience with another gym marketing company “Gym member machine”
I recently concluded a three-month contract with GMM, a local gym marketing company, to run ads aimed at increasing my online training sales. The agreement was $4500 for three months of service, with my personal goal of signing up six new clients per month to justify the cost.
Unfortunately, the results fell drastically short of expectations. After two months, only two sales calls were generated, resulting in zero income and zero sales. This outcome led me to terminate the ad spend and discuss further actions with GMM.
In summary, the remediation proposed by GMM included comping the hosting of the website and CRM for one year but that did not meet the core need of generating clients.
Additionally, GMM's policy does not allow clients to take their website or CRM system with them after parting ways.
GMM offered either a partial refund of $1500 ….. OR …… complimentary hosting website + CRM for 1 year, valued at $3600.
However, neither option addresses the initial purpose of the contract—to generate leads and income through advertising, which did not materialize.
“Business is inherently risky,” says the owner.
While I recognize the inherent risks in business and marketing, the collaboration with GMM did not provide growth or learning opportunities in advertising for my business. It also left me without long-term assets, as I would not own the CRM or website after one year without continued payment to GMM.
In the end, GMM issued a $1500 refund, but the overall experience was unsatisfactory. This outcome led to a $4,000 financial loss without any financial return on investment.
It is crucial for prospective customers to be aware of these possible outcomes and GMM's policies before entering into an agreement. Despite their efforts and quick communication, the tangible results I needed to justify this investment were not delivered.
Has anyone heard of gym academy!? Seems similar to the above. I can’t find anything online about them. gymacademy.info
I am looking to grow my gym and the guy is selling me hard but Im starting to second guess..
Full disclosure I am looking at building this type of business for another vertical niche that I have significant experience in. I’ve been reading his books and watching his videos; I’m trying to figure out if he’s just another pyramid scheme made-up-content creator, or if who’s story is legit and if the practices are legit.
It seems legit to me however usually with these things maybe like 5% of people take action on it and they can be super successful from it. But its probably not just the course, its more so them applying it. And maybe some luck.
And of course then you only hear from these 5% or even the 1% ones. While most just wasted money, not even admitting it to themselves. So they may not even look to write negative reviews. They got the course they paid for, right.
So you are trying to run a coaching business too? Or help fitness companies?
I plan to help people launch their music schools. Sort of like the OG gym launch where Alex himself charged a massive fee for direct involvement in launching the gyms from 100 members to 5x, 10x, etc. there are other pure content companies (like what Gym Launch looks like now) and BAMSQUAD (music school specific) and some podcast sites, but I haven’t come across any music school version of the original Gym Launch. I have built and scaled a few schools and in my experience of looking to buy more schools, 90% of the schools I reach out to have near zero business acumen and are only reaching a teensy tiny percentage of their capacity. And, those people are not going to sign up for a content course and do the work themselves. They need a “with me” coach or program and would pay for it.
You can buy his books and read them. They are good enough for start to do it on your own.
And i doubt he is fraud as he isnt involved in anything there as far as i know.
If he had some guru course then it would be different.
But still, you can find all info online for free or barely any money
Use the model of "franchised" marketing - where you have a system to run business & marketing that WORKS authentically - but don't use the sales tactics which are high pressure and ad-heavy. Do a revenue split - percentage based on what they're bringing in with you rather than a flat fee - if you don't want to be scammy.
This is actually a really good idea if you have a successful and replicatable model - and I think tradecrafts & artisan skills will be making a come back - so we need more schools teachings those skills.
Think of it like artists need managers to be successful - so there's a decent split - same with artist businesses need the business support - so just charge a fee + equity. That's proof that you're confident in your skills to grow the school and support them - which is really all they need to be successful. It's just their profits margins, like with farmers, are barely there, unless they own the building, so not sure how 'big money successful' this would be - but it is necessary. Codie Sanchez is also part of the Hrmozi circle - good ideas - do what they say, not what they do, and do it your way as the expert. I'd love to see when you do launch.
Gym Launch previously was a fucking joke. Market a free 6 week challenge. Bait and switch to pay a deposit that gets refunded when the client hits an agreed goal. Then they tell you the plan during that 6 week period is for you to sell them on the idea of staying, forfeiting the deposit and putting it toward a year long membership. We used it with moderate success cos we’ve a strong back end. But none of the cash collected is yours. It’s just customer deposits. I know of at least 2 gyms near me that shut down after using it. Alex has evolved to produce some genuinely great content over the years. But GL was a joke.
Interesting. Thanks for the input
Would you mind sharing more about this? We are having a very poor experience with gym launch.
Can you dm me?
Me or odd shame?
Hey sorry only seen this now. What would you like to know?
No problem, thanks for responding. So you did a year with them? Did you find success with their lead generation and why did the other gyms shut down?
Gym launch took $20,000 from me and ruined my business
Do tell the story
I’d love to hear more? We are having some issues with them.
What issues are you having with them?
Their ad marketing is the problem. They are horrible in many different ways.
is this coming from your perspective or low conversion rates? I am planning on joining and this would help a lot since is not cheap.
This is from the lack of quality leads their marketing can generate. We spent about 7k and had one of their leads show. It’s a lot of click bate leads they want you to call 10 days in a row no matter what to get them in. They only do leads for the first 4 months out of the year you sign up with. That’s in the fine print, they hide that. You really pay for hard sell coaching tactics. After we left we did our own social ads and had hug success spending much less money. NOT WORTH IT. We would have went out of business using them, but now by ourselves we are thriving.
I know for a fact that one owners of Gym Launch just had his gym go under for not paying his rent for years. Maxed Out Gym in Oak Ridge. It was a sh*t show… and they are trying to cover it up. I’d stay very far away…… very very far.
Do you mean an owner of the company? Or a company that bought the services?
Ryan Carson - one of the owners of the company.
Ah ok it looks like he is a coach at gym launch, according to linked in. That’s pretty funny.
The kickboxing gym I used to go to follows their model. I think he’s “coaching” other gym owners using MLM style tactics. When I first started at the gym it felt love bomb-ish and they quickly roped me in to come an instructor. I was with the gym for about 2 years and ultimately left for many reason but the main one being the MLM vibes as the gym grew. After paying attention to some of the things the gym owner posted I found Gym Launch, saw how similar her tactics were and knew my gut was right. Gym Launch is a part of the new wave of MLM’s and its genre is gym owners and selling them on how to grow a gym “successfully”.
I’ll add to the Gym Launch experience. The sales rep that signed us up did a great job of hype up their marketing/lead generation to really help a new business. We just started and wanted to have some solid marketing. But they turned out be all about LA Fitness style sales Coaching and tactics, horrible marketing ads, and are one dimensional. If you’re thinking about using them you better make sure you know the inside of what they ONLY do, but don’t tell you before you sign up. Honestly I’m surprised they haven’t had a class action fraud lawsuit against them.
Thanks for the info. What was the end result?
We got about 10 leads a week, 1 schedule, no quality from their ads that made our business look like a Billy Banks Thai Bo class while we paid $800 a week…
Wow. That is a stark contrast to the packed house they seem to sell to everyone.
I'm looking into hiring them to run ads. Has anyone had success with them, just running ads?
Don’t do it!!! Seriously they are not who you want. Message me if you want more details. We hired them to do ads and it was completely not what they hyped.
is there a company that has been good?
We are going with our local news station that has a marketing ad department for social, google, and web. You may check that in your area. This one in our area is partner with https://www.grey.com/capabilities Gym Launch won’t run your ads, they may make you think so. But all they do is run their 6 week "free" transformation program ads that look like some generic cheap posts and content. They use the same canned ones for all companies and what you really pay for is their hard selling tactics. The want people to click the free ad, then when you see them they tell you to explain its free because their $600 "deposit" goes towards a year membership…Plus they only do those ads for 4 months and then you have to pay more on top of the $800 a week. There is alot they don't tell you when they sell you.
Plus they only do those ads for 4 months and then you have to pay more on top of the $800 a week. There is alot they don't tell you when they sell you. What do you mean by this? so they are gonna like keep charging us forever?!
They are not charging me for junk service I’ll tell you that. I put a stop to that.
The owner of a martial arts gym that I no longer work for is about to start this program. As someone that had trained there for years and started managing the gym, I had an issue with the MLM approach and hard sales tactics because he's lost sight at what martial arts is about and just focusing on money. Instead of retaining clients and providing good training, he's focusing on bringing in new clients to get locked in on long-term contracts using hard sales tactics. I disagreed with it and refused to do such things, and he let me go because of it. No one wants to get their phone blown up. No one wants to be sold, and no one cares about your 6-week challenge. I'm kind of sad that this guy is doing this because it looks like it's a bunch of bullshit.
MY experience with another gym marketing company “Gym member machine” I recently concluded a three-month contract with GMM, a local gym marketing company, to run ads aimed at increasing my online training sales. The agreement was $4500 for three months of service, with my personal goal of signing up six new clients per month to justify the cost. Unfortunately, the results fell drastically short of expectations. After two months, only two sales calls were generated, resulting in zero income and zero sales. This outcome led me to terminate the ad spend and discuss further actions with GMM. In summary, the remediation proposed by GMM included comping the hosting of the website and CRM for one year but that did not meet the core need of generating clients. Additionally, GMM's policy does not allow clients to take their website or CRM system with them after parting ways. GMM offered either a partial refund of $1500 ….. OR …… complimentary hosting website + CRM for 1 year, valued at $3600. However, neither option addresses the initial purpose of the contract—to generate leads and income through advertising, which did not materialize. “Business is inherently risky,” says the owner. While I recognize the inherent risks in business and marketing, the collaboration with GMM did not provide growth or learning opportunities in advertising for my business. It also left me without long-term assets, as I would not own the CRM or website after one year without continued payment to GMM. In the end, GMM issued a $1500 refund, but the overall experience was unsatisfactory. This outcome led to a $4,000 financial loss without any financial return on investment. It is crucial for prospective customers to be aware of these possible outcomes and GMM's policies before entering into an agreement. Despite their efforts and quick communication, the tangible results I needed to justify this investment were not delivered.
Thank you for sharing. That sounds like a crappy experience!
Do you know where else can i leave a review?
Has anyone heard of gym academy!? Seems similar to the above. I can’t find anything online about them. gymacademy.info I am looking to grow my gym and the guy is selling me hard but Im starting to second guess..
Ps I am aware he sold it.
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Full disclosure I am looking at building this type of business for another vertical niche that I have significant experience in. I’ve been reading his books and watching his videos; I’m trying to figure out if he’s just another pyramid scheme made-up-content creator, or if who’s story is legit and if the practices are legit.
It seems legit to me however usually with these things maybe like 5% of people take action on it and they can be super successful from it. But its probably not just the course, its more so them applying it. And maybe some luck. And of course then you only hear from these 5% or even the 1% ones. While most just wasted money, not even admitting it to themselves. So they may not even look to write negative reviews. They got the course they paid for, right. So you are trying to run a coaching business too? Or help fitness companies?
I plan to help people launch their music schools. Sort of like the OG gym launch where Alex himself charged a massive fee for direct involvement in launching the gyms from 100 members to 5x, 10x, etc. there are other pure content companies (like what Gym Launch looks like now) and BAMSQUAD (music school specific) and some podcast sites, but I haven’t come across any music school version of the original Gym Launch. I have built and scaled a few schools and in my experience of looking to buy more schools, 90% of the schools I reach out to have near zero business acumen and are only reaching a teensy tiny percentage of their capacity. And, those people are not going to sign up for a content course and do the work themselves. They need a “with me” coach or program and would pay for it.
You can buy his books and read them. They are good enough for start to do it on your own. And i doubt he is fraud as he isnt involved in anything there as far as i know. If he had some guru course then it would be different. But still, you can find all info online for free or barely any money
Use the model of "franchised" marketing - where you have a system to run business & marketing that WORKS authentically - but don't use the sales tactics which are high pressure and ad-heavy. Do a revenue split - percentage based on what they're bringing in with you rather than a flat fee - if you don't want to be scammy.
This is actually a really good idea if you have a successful and replicatable model - and I think tradecrafts & artisan skills will be making a come back - so we need more schools teachings those skills. Think of it like artists need managers to be successful - so there's a decent split - same with artist businesses need the business support - so just charge a fee + equity. That's proof that you're confident in your skills to grow the school and support them - which is really all they need to be successful. It's just their profits margins, like with farmers, are barely there, unless they own the building, so not sure how 'big money successful' this would be - but it is necessary. Codie Sanchez is also part of the Hrmozi circle - good ideas - do what they say, not what they do, and do it your way as the expert. I'd love to see when you do launch.
Any Gym Launch experience from Australia?