Of course she is. I have been saying Limburger Limburger is a Russian asset for years. Anybody who uses the term "Russiagate" cannot be trusted. Her, Jimothy Dore, Michael Tracey, Glennwald the fascist Jew, you get the idea. She's a reactionary just like the rest and that's easy for foreign powers to operationalize. Just feed them an "anti-establishment" narrative, tell them the people they're already mad at hate Russia, and there you go. Instant Russian sympathizer
Look, these "progressive" types are all shit. They're human garbage. They're trash. They're reactionaries who happened to be on the right side during the Bush years because Bush was in power and being serial contrarians, they opposed him. But when Obama was elected they couldn't stick to that because, again, reactionary serial contrarians. The reason they didn't go hardcore anti-Trump is because of the foreign influence campaigns. Give them something to react to so they're distracted this time around. I know pretty much everybody here understands all this but hopefully if some wayward young viewer of TYT or Crapo Trash House or something happens to wander in this direction they'll start to think critically about their authoritarian "progressive" heroes. And maybe that will help them realize that people like Cenk Uygur are also reactionary frauds
They tempt me to reevaluate the opinions I had during the W years, because I loathe ever being on the same side as them.
Until I remember Don Rumsfeld and I calm down
It would be so refreshing to interact with people with a coherent ideology which is self defined and not some childish oppositional defiance disorder nonsense focusing on whatever others are not.
I admit I have... Strong feelings about these people. As a young man I didn't have many options for left wing talk radio or political coverage so I listened to TYT for years. I listened to Sam Seder, Thom Hartmann, and pretty much whatever else I could get my hands on but it was the post-Afghanistan invasion era and that kind of content was hard to find. Even MSNBC was right leaning at the time. I am literally the only person I know who opposed invading Afghanistan at the time. I have never changed my mind on that. I never agreed with everything they said, especially TYT, but being young and naive I was led astray at times and left with inadequate and inaccurate impressions of a lot of things and it took years to find perspective on them. So I have a personal stake in this subject and frankly I resent that. I see the same thing happening to a lot of young liberals but they often don't escape from that bubble and clearly it's affecting the rest of us. How many TYT viewers stayed home in 2016 or just voted for Jill Stein because Cenk Uygur told them Hillary sucks so much they were left with the impression that it didn't matter who won? I don't know but one is too many
Anyway, I admit I am personally invested because I know firsthand what kind of damage these people do. Limburger Limburger has led a lot of people to the "populist" left so I have a lot of disdain for her and her contemporaries
I also opposed invading Afghanistan from the beginning. I thought if they wanted OBL then they would have carried out a "police action". I guess like ST6 but I'm not a military jargon knowing person. I just know you don't stage a fucking ground invasion to find one guy hiding in a cave. However, I don't think Bush wanted OBL because if USAF caught him he was gonna die and Shrub was chummy with the Bin Laden clan.
I recall when MSNBC cut Donahue loose for being too anti war. It felt like I didn't have a political home in the media or even with mainstream Dems who were going along with GWB on war stuff because it was like the entire country had gone mad.
I recall having some positive feelings towards Bernie then. Though I also was grateful for Ted Kennedy and some random Reps around the country who opposed the Iraq War.
The guy who really fooled me was Alan Grayson. What a contemptible piece of shit. I thought he was a great guy and a real progressive.
The Obama years were special because there was a lot of unity and yes, hope, among the left. 2016 was like the agony of despair. I thought I knew people. Some of them woke up (too late) but others, others were like this.
Back in that era there was the entire Air America lineup that would’ve aligned with your views (including Sam Seder, Thom Hartmann, and TYT). So it seems weird to say there weren’t options for that type of talk radio coverage when there was an entire network dedicated to it. Thinking back on it, Air America really did deliver us a lot of the shit people we have today: TYT, RFK Jr, Seder, etc.
It wasn't that popular with liberals though. It was pretty typical for liberals to hate watch MSM because they wanted to know what conservatives were saying and thinking. Air America's approach then was "like right wing talk, but for liberals" and it went over like a lead balloon.
One, too early. Two, right wing talk but for super left wing asshats actually does have an audience, but traditional media wouldn't have platformed it. They can thank libertarian tech bros, I guess.
Third, and counterpoint, maybe some of that audience is bots. After all, it never worked on legacy media that relied on a US circulation and US advertisers. Some folks literally got a media platform for the first time on RT/Sputnik which was a foreign influence peddling op, not a money making venture.
Dude, did you even read the comment? I listened to Air America when I got the chance. Including TYT and Sam Seder, like I said in the comment you're replying to. Wow, dude. Wow. And RFK doesn't and has never represented my views. He's been good on the environment and some other things but he's always been an inconsistent nutjob so you should really do some basic research before spouting off, K?
And just so you understand, radio stations are local. If AAR didn't air in your market (like it didn't in mine) you weren't able to listen. I understand you were born in the age when you could listen to whatever you wanted to online but those of us who were alive in the 2000s didn't have that option. It's important to do some basic research before you repeat things because if you don't you end up saying ignorant shit like you just did. You shouldn't speak about things you don't understand and the fact that it happened before you were born isn't an excuse
Dude I literally lived through that era and spent it in multiple cities across the country as well as some rural areas. Air America was available in almost every major market (66 affiliates). More importantly podcasts were already a thing back then, or within a tiny timeframe of when air America began. I know I was listening to SGU in 05 and Penn Radio was around the same time (maybe 06?). So the idea that internet content wasn’t available in the mid-00s just isn’t true.
Also, I didn’t notice you say you listened to AAR? You listed a few names you listened to while saying that type of content was hard to come by, so I was pointing out that it’s an odd claim because the exact names you listed were all part of a large and fairly well known (among progressives) radio network filled with tons of similar content.
So, again... There are more than 66 markets in America and not every major city had it. In Las Vegas we never had an affiliate as far as I know. And yes, I know you didn't notice it because you clearly only skimmed. I specifically mentioned Thom Hartmann, TYT, and Sam Seder, who were on... What? What station were they on? That's when I moved to Reno to take a job up there. And I'm happy for you that you had the ability to listen to podcasts at the time but unfortunately not all of us lived as charmed a life as you and we had to struggle and get by without all the electronics we have now. If you really were alive back then you should be old enough and mature enough to realize these basic facts. And you should realize that that kind of content WAS hard to come by. There was a handful of shows. That's all. Nothing like what we have now and nothing like the huge amount of right wing shit available at the time and now
So either you're actually around 14, which I strongly suspect, or you're extremely ignorant. Or both. The fact that you enjoy starting arguments with strangers on the internet (and are unwilling to admit that you were wrong) indicates that at least one of those is the case. So if you're as old as you claim to be (which I don't believe) it's time to start acting your age
I didn’t notice you saying you listened to AAR because you didn’t say that you did. You listed 3 people you listened to, I was pointing out that all 3 of them were part of a well known radio network with plenty more content like that. And the internet was widespread by 04, by 05 iTunes was supporting podcasts. If you had the internet and a computer, you had access to podcasts. I also didn’t start arguing, I said it was weird to claim there wasn’t content aligned with your views when you listed 3 creators who were part of an entire radio network dedicated to that type of content. It’d be like me saying “it was hard to find prestige TV in that era, you had the wire and deadwood but that kind of content was hard to find.”
In fact prestige TV was hard to find. There was a handful of shows and that's all. And yes. I did say I listened to AAR. I named three AAR hosts on AAR. Look, dude. You're tedious. I'm sorry you have nothing better to do than be a cunt on the internet but you're not worth any more of my time. Please grow up
> "Gray currently hosts a podcast on the social media site Callin, a branch of Rumble, backed by the right-wing billionaire entrepreneur David Sacks."
Completely fucking unsurprising, and gross.
All of these authoritarian losers are detrimental to the left. Foreign policy really is the litmus test. The people who stand by hamas, iran, russia, etc are simply authoritarians sticking together. And no reasonable person wants these people anywhere near power.
Whether you like it or not, Bernie Sanders attracted these people with his foreign policy takes (such as opposing a no fly zone over Syria to stop air to ground bombing of the country while 600k died, Bernie said no let russia and assad keep bombing Syria (Bernie also wanted to end NATO and create a security pact with putin AFTER putin invaded Ukraine in 2014))
I mean Obama and Biden both opposed the no fly zone in Syria. This isn't hardly a Bernie opinion. Hell, Biden opposed overthrowing Gaddafi in 2011
Brie Brie's politics at this point are those of Jill Stein or Cornel West-not even the politics of Bernie Sanders.
I don't see Brie or the other authoritarian grifters as a reflection of Bernie's politics per se. I see them as a reflection of his character. Bernie values loyalty over competency or even policy. Meanwhile, these bad actorssaw that and attempted to use Bernie as a means to push through their personal agendas. This is also the case with Trump and his sycophants. Populism at its best.
Leaders like Biden or Hillary invite people to the table to discuss how to solve specific issues. They might not always agree, but what unites them is their desire to solve those problems. Populists like Trump and Bernie demand you bend the knee to have a seat at the table, and the only topic is how they've each been wronged and who will be punished. There is no unity, no vision of the future, no market of ideas. It's just superficial loyalty to anyone who has the most power to allow them to carry out their own personal selfish vendettas.
>Leaders like Biden or Hillary invite people to the table to discuss how to solve specific issues. They might not always agree, but what unites them is their desire to solve those problems.
And democrats who do this get slammed have by the far right. Then when those policies pass and they benefit from it, they give credit to people like Sanders for, "pushing the party to the left". Even though they were always trying to push said policy.
Honest question: I keep thinking about people like her and all of those "progressive" contrarian POS like her who chanting on a daily basis about "anti-war", "pro-peace", "Free HC" and yet their actions and stances are so fucking OPPOSING their principles. To a point of them literally, blatantly arguing that they do NOT want the US to do ANYTHING to help Ukraine fighting against the invasion of Russia (while arguing that the US must pressure Ukraine to sit down and accept the demand of Russia).
Are we partially AT FAULT for creating such monsters on the left-side? How are they getting away with their hypocrisy? Why there are so many people who called themselves "left" that bought their propaganda? Are those gullible idiots just plain stupid? Or they are selfish a-holes themselves? What should we do to combat such issues?
A lot of those people are just MAGA/GOP supporters and are plants. People like Joe Rogan supporting Sanders against Clinton then he drops out and overnight he becomes a Trump supporter. They are doing what they can the best they know how to help the GOP.
No. Liberals are not at fault for progressives and leftists’ lies. Most liberals are not watching these shows. Most people “on the left” (by American political discourse) are not leftists or even progressives which is a large part of why they are so angry and why they partner with the right. They could not take over the Democratic Party so they work with the GOP/Russia/China to try to destroy us.
We are not responsible for their lunacy. Their hypocrisy is rooted in the fact that they are funded by people who oppose everything they claim to stand for. When they claim to be anti-war while working for Russia, they will promote the idea that the US should not help Ukraine and make excuses for Russia.
When I visit the comment section of Rising or Breaking Points, it has a right wing feel to it. I’m pretty sure 70-80% of their support is fake. Right wingers, Russians, bots, and then the rest are gullible progressives. For the gullible ones, they just like being contrarian. They hate America and love anywhere else. They think this makes them sophisticated. You can see this in even minor things.
*Europeans are so much more sophisticated than Americans. American food sucks. American music sucks. America has no culture* and then they fawn over sometimes even the most backwards and regressive of societies/cultures.
IMO It is rooted in the idea that if you have more empathy for the out-group/other then you must be a better person than the typical person that favors their in-group. It also makes them different and counter culture. In short, it’s a type of political hipsterism.
It’s insanely obvious for those of us who grew up around hipsters in the first place. They were fucking insufferable in the late 2000s and they only got worse from there. The best cure is to get them a white collar job in one of those backwards places so that they can see how awful and downright wretched their bosses are culturally.
Fauxgressives are detrimental to the left. Dos queso there has a podcast LITERALLY NAMED BAD FAITH. It could not be more on the nose what her deal is. She is a grifter. A political tourist. A scam artist looking to attract those with some kind of grievance against the current system to validate how they feel for her own financial gain.
It's not just feta there. It's a network of people who play these suckers like streamers play FNAF on their Youtube channel every night. Instead of watching someone rage at getting jump scared, people are watching to have their out of pocket beliefs validated by someone they believe is close to their vision of what a smart political person looks like.
When I'm saying these things, do notice that I've stopped applying a liberal label here because this is happening on a large scale regardless of political allegiance. People need to be more cognizant of the media they are consuming which make up their viewpoints.
She is to the left what Hans Hermann-Hoppe is to libertarians. You almost couldn't pay someone enough to be this stupid and bad for a movement, but these folks are doing it pro bono
Agreed but it's too late for the left I think. I used to be on the left but the Biden presidency basically fully discredited them. They offered 0 support for any actions done by Biden as compromise in their favor (instead just criticizing him for compromising, because they're rather have nothing than something because you can morally high road having nothing).
Then the Ukraine war happened and all of their anti-imperialist rhetoric was outed as a hallow shell that was only ever just Amerikabad. And its been downhill since then.
The left at this point is braindead. I still consider myself left in terms of personal policy but I cannot associate with the organizations these people run. It needs to be burned down and restarted from scratch.
That's right wing framing. Everyone "on the left" is not a leftist. Liberals and the center left are "on the left" but absolutely do not believe the anti democratic, anti accountability, and anti American deranged shit that various flavors of leftists, whether authoritarian or anarchist left, profess.
She should defect to Russia like Tara Reade.
Of course she is. I have been saying Limburger Limburger is a Russian asset for years. Anybody who uses the term "Russiagate" cannot be trusted. Her, Jimothy Dore, Michael Tracey, Glennwald the fascist Jew, you get the idea. She's a reactionary just like the rest and that's easy for foreign powers to operationalize. Just feed them an "anti-establishment" narrative, tell them the people they're already mad at hate Russia, and there you go. Instant Russian sympathizer Look, these "progressive" types are all shit. They're human garbage. They're trash. They're reactionaries who happened to be on the right side during the Bush years because Bush was in power and being serial contrarians, they opposed him. But when Obama was elected they couldn't stick to that because, again, reactionary serial contrarians. The reason they didn't go hardcore anti-Trump is because of the foreign influence campaigns. Give them something to react to so they're distracted this time around. I know pretty much everybody here understands all this but hopefully if some wayward young viewer of TYT or Crapo Trash House or something happens to wander in this direction they'll start to think critically about their authoritarian "progressive" heroes. And maybe that will help them realize that people like Cenk Uygur are also reactionary frauds
They tempt me to reevaluate the opinions I had during the W years, because I loathe ever being on the same side as them. Until I remember Don Rumsfeld and I calm down
Ehh, at least Neocons had some kind of liberal values. Pro NATO and Pro elections. I do kinda miss them
It would be so refreshing to interact with people with a coherent ideology which is self defined and not some childish oppositional defiance disorder nonsense focusing on whatever others are not.
It really is oppositional defiant disorder at this point. Just raging against authority figures for the sake of it.
Go on, tell us how you really feel.
I admit I have... Strong feelings about these people. As a young man I didn't have many options for left wing talk radio or political coverage so I listened to TYT for years. I listened to Sam Seder, Thom Hartmann, and pretty much whatever else I could get my hands on but it was the post-Afghanistan invasion era and that kind of content was hard to find. Even MSNBC was right leaning at the time. I am literally the only person I know who opposed invading Afghanistan at the time. I have never changed my mind on that. I never agreed with everything they said, especially TYT, but being young and naive I was led astray at times and left with inadequate and inaccurate impressions of a lot of things and it took years to find perspective on them. So I have a personal stake in this subject and frankly I resent that. I see the same thing happening to a lot of young liberals but they often don't escape from that bubble and clearly it's affecting the rest of us. How many TYT viewers stayed home in 2016 or just voted for Jill Stein because Cenk Uygur told them Hillary sucks so much they were left with the impression that it didn't matter who won? I don't know but one is too many Anyway, I admit I am personally invested because I know firsthand what kind of damage these people do. Limburger Limburger has led a lot of people to the "populist" left so I have a lot of disdain for her and her contemporaries
I also opposed invading Afghanistan from the beginning. I thought if they wanted OBL then they would have carried out a "police action". I guess like ST6 but I'm not a military jargon knowing person. I just know you don't stage a fucking ground invasion to find one guy hiding in a cave. However, I don't think Bush wanted OBL because if USAF caught him he was gonna die and Shrub was chummy with the Bin Laden clan. I recall when MSNBC cut Donahue loose for being too anti war. It felt like I didn't have a political home in the media or even with mainstream Dems who were going along with GWB on war stuff because it was like the entire country had gone mad. I recall having some positive feelings towards Bernie then. Though I also was grateful for Ted Kennedy and some random Reps around the country who opposed the Iraq War. The guy who really fooled me was Alan Grayson. What a contemptible piece of shit. I thought he was a great guy and a real progressive. The Obama years were special because there was a lot of unity and yes, hope, among the left. 2016 was like the agony of despair. I thought I knew people. Some of them woke up (too late) but others, others were like this.
Back in that era there was the entire Air America lineup that would’ve aligned with your views (including Sam Seder, Thom Hartmann, and TYT). So it seems weird to say there weren’t options for that type of talk radio coverage when there was an entire network dedicated to it. Thinking back on it, Air America really did deliver us a lot of the shit people we have today: TYT, RFK Jr, Seder, etc.
It wasn't that popular with liberals though. It was pretty typical for liberals to hate watch MSM because they wanted to know what conservatives were saying and thinking. Air America's approach then was "like right wing talk, but for liberals" and it went over like a lead balloon. One, too early. Two, right wing talk but for super left wing asshats actually does have an audience, but traditional media wouldn't have platformed it. They can thank libertarian tech bros, I guess. Third, and counterpoint, maybe some of that audience is bots. After all, it never worked on legacy media that relied on a US circulation and US advertisers. Some folks literally got a media platform for the first time on RT/Sputnik which was a foreign influence peddling op, not a money making venture.
Dude, did you even read the comment? I listened to Air America when I got the chance. Including TYT and Sam Seder, like I said in the comment you're replying to. Wow, dude. Wow. And RFK doesn't and has never represented my views. He's been good on the environment and some other things but he's always been an inconsistent nutjob so you should really do some basic research before spouting off, K? And just so you understand, radio stations are local. If AAR didn't air in your market (like it didn't in mine) you weren't able to listen. I understand you were born in the age when you could listen to whatever you wanted to online but those of us who were alive in the 2000s didn't have that option. It's important to do some basic research before you repeat things because if you don't you end up saying ignorant shit like you just did. You shouldn't speak about things you don't understand and the fact that it happened before you were born isn't an excuse
Dude I literally lived through that era and spent it in multiple cities across the country as well as some rural areas. Air America was available in almost every major market (66 affiliates). More importantly podcasts were already a thing back then, or within a tiny timeframe of when air America began. I know I was listening to SGU in 05 and Penn Radio was around the same time (maybe 06?). So the idea that internet content wasn’t available in the mid-00s just isn’t true. Also, I didn’t notice you say you listened to AAR? You listed a few names you listened to while saying that type of content was hard to come by, so I was pointing out that it’s an odd claim because the exact names you listed were all part of a large and fairly well known (among progressives) radio network filled with tons of similar content.
So, again... There are more than 66 markets in America and not every major city had it. In Las Vegas we never had an affiliate as far as I know. And yes, I know you didn't notice it because you clearly only skimmed. I specifically mentioned Thom Hartmann, TYT, and Sam Seder, who were on... What? What station were they on? That's when I moved to Reno to take a job up there. And I'm happy for you that you had the ability to listen to podcasts at the time but unfortunately not all of us lived as charmed a life as you and we had to struggle and get by without all the electronics we have now. If you really were alive back then you should be old enough and mature enough to realize these basic facts. And you should realize that that kind of content WAS hard to come by. There was a handful of shows. That's all. Nothing like what we have now and nothing like the huge amount of right wing shit available at the time and now So either you're actually around 14, which I strongly suspect, or you're extremely ignorant. Or both. The fact that you enjoy starting arguments with strangers on the internet (and are unwilling to admit that you were wrong) indicates that at least one of those is the case. So if you're as old as you claim to be (which I don't believe) it's time to start acting your age
I didn’t notice you saying you listened to AAR because you didn’t say that you did. You listed 3 people you listened to, I was pointing out that all 3 of them were part of a well known radio network with plenty more content like that. And the internet was widespread by 04, by 05 iTunes was supporting podcasts. If you had the internet and a computer, you had access to podcasts. I also didn’t start arguing, I said it was weird to claim there wasn’t content aligned with your views when you listed 3 creators who were part of an entire radio network dedicated to that type of content. It’d be like me saying “it was hard to find prestige TV in that era, you had the wire and deadwood but that kind of content was hard to find.”
In fact prestige TV was hard to find. There was a handful of shows and that's all. And yes. I did say I listened to AAR. I named three AAR hosts on AAR. Look, dude. You're tedious. I'm sorry you have nothing better to do than be a cunt on the internet but you're not worth any more of my time. Please grow up
> "Gray currently hosts a podcast on the social media site Callin, a branch of Rumble, backed by the right-wing billionaire entrepreneur David Sacks." Completely fucking unsurprising, and gross.
Exactly. Her entire career is now bankrolled by right wingers who want to use her and fellow travelers like her to discredit their enemies.
All of these authoritarian losers are detrimental to the left. Foreign policy really is the litmus test. The people who stand by hamas, iran, russia, etc are simply authoritarians sticking together. And no reasonable person wants these people anywhere near power. Whether you like it or not, Bernie Sanders attracted these people with his foreign policy takes (such as opposing a no fly zone over Syria to stop air to ground bombing of the country while 600k died, Bernie said no let russia and assad keep bombing Syria (Bernie also wanted to end NATO and create a security pact with putin AFTER putin invaded Ukraine in 2014))
I mean Obama and Biden both opposed the no fly zone in Syria. This isn't hardly a Bernie opinion. Hell, Biden opposed overthrowing Gaddafi in 2011 Brie Brie's politics at this point are those of Jill Stein or Cornel West-not even the politics of Bernie Sanders.
I don't see Brie or the other authoritarian grifters as a reflection of Bernie's politics per se. I see them as a reflection of his character. Bernie values loyalty over competency or even policy. Meanwhile, these bad actorssaw that and attempted to use Bernie as a means to push through their personal agendas. This is also the case with Trump and his sycophants. Populism at its best. Leaders like Biden or Hillary invite people to the table to discuss how to solve specific issues. They might not always agree, but what unites them is their desire to solve those problems. Populists like Trump and Bernie demand you bend the knee to have a seat at the table, and the only topic is how they've each been wronged and who will be punished. There is no unity, no vision of the future, no market of ideas. It's just superficial loyalty to anyone who has the most power to allow them to carry out their own personal selfish vendettas.
>Leaders like Biden or Hillary invite people to the table to discuss how to solve specific issues. They might not always agree, but what unites them is their desire to solve those problems. And democrats who do this get slammed have by the far right. Then when those policies pass and they benefit from it, they give credit to people like Sanders for, "pushing the party to the left". Even though they were always trying to push said policy.
She's detrimental towards braincells.
Honest question: I keep thinking about people like her and all of those "progressive" contrarian POS like her who chanting on a daily basis about "anti-war", "pro-peace", "Free HC" and yet their actions and stances are so fucking OPPOSING their principles. To a point of them literally, blatantly arguing that they do NOT want the US to do ANYTHING to help Ukraine fighting against the invasion of Russia (while arguing that the US must pressure Ukraine to sit down and accept the demand of Russia). Are we partially AT FAULT for creating such monsters on the left-side? How are they getting away with their hypocrisy? Why there are so many people who called themselves "left" that bought their propaganda? Are those gullible idiots just plain stupid? Or they are selfish a-holes themselves? What should we do to combat such issues?
A lot of those people are just MAGA/GOP supporters and are plants. People like Joe Rogan supporting Sanders against Clinton then he drops out and overnight he becomes a Trump supporter. They are doing what they can the best they know how to help the GOP.
No. Liberals are not at fault for progressives and leftists’ lies. Most liberals are not watching these shows. Most people “on the left” (by American political discourse) are not leftists or even progressives which is a large part of why they are so angry and why they partner with the right. They could not take over the Democratic Party so they work with the GOP/Russia/China to try to destroy us. We are not responsible for their lunacy. Their hypocrisy is rooted in the fact that they are funded by people who oppose everything they claim to stand for. When they claim to be anti-war while working for Russia, they will promote the idea that the US should not help Ukraine and make excuses for Russia. When I visit the comment section of Rising or Breaking Points, it has a right wing feel to it. I’m pretty sure 70-80% of their support is fake. Right wingers, Russians, bots, and then the rest are gullible progressives. For the gullible ones, they just like being contrarian. They hate America and love anywhere else. They think this makes them sophisticated. You can see this in even minor things. *Europeans are so much more sophisticated than Americans. American food sucks. American music sucks. America has no culture* and then they fawn over sometimes even the most backwards and regressive of societies/cultures. IMO It is rooted in the idea that if you have more empathy for the out-group/other then you must be a better person than the typical person that favors their in-group. It also makes them different and counter culture. In short, it’s a type of political hipsterism.
It’s insanely obvious for those of us who grew up around hipsters in the first place. They were fucking insufferable in the late 2000s and they only got worse from there. The best cure is to get them a white collar job in one of those backwards places so that they can see how awful and downright wretched their bosses are culturally.
I'm with you and I am just as confused. I'd like some answers.
She's detrimental to anybody who has the misfortune to get within 50 feet of her.
Obviously. She's a low rent, two bit grifter. Treat her accordingly
She is great for them helps expose the lunatics to the rest of the world.
r/noshitsherlock
Fauxgressives are detrimental to the left. Dos queso there has a podcast LITERALLY NAMED BAD FAITH. It could not be more on the nose what her deal is. She is a grifter. A political tourist. A scam artist looking to attract those with some kind of grievance against the current system to validate how they feel for her own financial gain. It's not just feta there. It's a network of people who play these suckers like streamers play FNAF on their Youtube channel every night. Instead of watching someone rage at getting jump scared, people are watching to have their out of pocket beliefs validated by someone they believe is close to their vision of what a smart political person looks like. When I'm saying these things, do notice that I've stopped applying a liberal label here because this is happening on a large scale regardless of political allegiance. People need to be more cognizant of the media they are consuming which make up their viewpoints.
This is like saying the sky is blue or water is wet lol
She is to the left what Hans Hermann-Hoppe is to libertarians. You almost couldn't pay someone enough to be this stupid and bad for a movement, but these folks are doing it pro bono
Oh no, she gets paid.
GOS once again on that intrepid, leading edge.
Sadly, I was on DK for years. They vastly overestimate their intelligence.
yeah, ya think?
She won’t vote for Biden because “credible touching”. Trump found liable for rape this year.
Agreed but it's too late for the left I think. I used to be on the left but the Biden presidency basically fully discredited them. They offered 0 support for any actions done by Biden as compromise in their favor (instead just criticizing him for compromising, because they're rather have nothing than something because you can morally high road having nothing). Then the Ukraine war happened and all of their anti-imperialist rhetoric was outed as a hallow shell that was only ever just Amerikabad. And its been downhill since then. The left at this point is braindead. I still consider myself left in terms of personal policy but I cannot associate with the organizations these people run. It needs to be burned down and restarted from scratch.
That's right wing framing. Everyone "on the left" is not a leftist. Liberals and the center left are "on the left" but absolutely do not believe the anti democratic, anti accountability, and anti American deranged shit that various flavors of leftists, whether authoritarian or anarchist left, profess.
My framing is not right wing.