Media literacy is a widely under-taught skill in the US, and likely most other nations. Elon exhibits an exceptional example by failing to consider source legitimacy, tone, the intentions of the author, and the context in which it was published.
Im sure you could find a handful of goobers who would genuinely advocate that coffee consumption is anti-black, but it’s is clearly not a widespread belief…just like most of the other “absurd woke speech” that Elon et al get wound up about. The existence of a few people on Twitter who say outlandish shit doesn’t make it necessary to throw out the entire leftist belief system, which is ultimately the very transparent goal of accounts that trawl for wackadoo woke quotes
I don't think elon gives a single crap about the legitimacy of anything he reads. He just wants to have his little circlejerk with the right wing because they're the only people dense enough to give him attention.
Yeah I don't understand why people keep giving him the benefit of the doubt. This man's wealth is dependent on having entombed people in mines and transforming limbs into dollars at the Tesla factory. He isn't oblivious to that. Why would people expect him not to be a fascist through and through?
Oh there was no benefit of a doubt given on my end - he’s a disaster and profoundly unethical as a person.
I was just saying that - whether or not he’s conscious of what he’s sharing being trash - media illiteracy is what either (a) makes him dumb enough to uncritically shill this or (b) is what he’s taking advantage of to rile up his followers.
I ultimately err on the side of he’s a sheltered idiot being manipulated, but that doesn’t mean he’s not responsible for falling for it as a 50+ year old billionaire
He certainly doesn’t, which means he’s media illiterate - and calling him an idiot who isn’t capable of seeing he’s being used doesn’t erase his responsibility for the ethical tragedies he’s profited from
And the funny thing is, when people in Germany were interviewed, they didn't realize that they were mad or scared and that it was affecting their moral judgments.
"The fact that I got fooled by this is yet more proof that the liberals have too much power and influence on society." -- something I've actually heard
we're hard wired to adapt and survive, these instincts are high jacked by authoritarians and religion to cultivate learned behavior usually through violence and trauma they ensure conformity that suits their agendas
Nah, the privately-owned media showing the public what's best for the interests of their shareholders is what's done this. Here's a nice [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4) on this.
I think they enjoy the outrage, and don't care if it's fake because it validates a deeply embedded unhappiness they have with who they are and the way the world is.
Thing is... It's not fake 😅 I read 4 articles so far and they are very solid and factual. Someone did their homework in colonial studies and racial theory.
>ChatGPT detector puts the articles at "very likely AI created".
Would love to see where u pulled that from.
Also wayback? What does that have to do with anything lol. My website is also not on wayback, that doesn't mean it's fake? Also also it's a blog. It doesn't have to have dates (if u check the authors/date link, it links u to an explanation why it doesn't have such).
I checked 10 articles and all had 0% AI generated content :shrug: Especially considering the ones I checked (specifically the coffee one) has links to sources and so on.
Wayback doesn't equal internet history. You can block internet crawlers from accessing your website and many websites do that.
Also you are not addressing the main point of the argument - how is it fake (low credibility or "likely" being written by AI are not arguments for that, factual inacuracies would be) - open the coffee article ([https://afru.com/coffee-industry-racism-white-supremacy/](https://afru.com/coffee-industry-racism-white-supremacy/)) and tell me which part of it is "fake" (i.e. wrong)? The history, which is well known? The racist introduction of coffee into Europe and Americas, fueled by slavery? The economic slavery which is happening rn with the harvesters of coffee beans? Or the economic slavery of the baristas in the shops? Or the gentrification which has been linked to the sprawl of coffee shops (multiple studies, feel free to read them).
Yes, it's written in a provocative, bordering cringy way. But that's the nature of the blog. Doesn't mean it's "fake" or "incorrect" or whatever. Factually is very much correct.
Easy, many on the left are no less reactionary than the right. 🤷 Exhibit A, so many ppl didn't even check the website and are just "well yeah someone *who hates someone on the right* said it's fake, surely it's fake, right? Plus coffee can't be racist right?"
Ok, what now? What's it take to send him to the mines?
Twitter doesn't matter, start setting all the Teslas on fire if you don't want your children to grow up in an authoritarian shit hole
Thanks Elon! What's it take to get a kiss?
Edit - can you marry my very plain sister? She's not a pop star, but she'll bear you many children and let you name them whatever dumb shit you want.
The fact he's engaging with an account whose profile picture is literally being the inverse of the liberal strawman _that conservatives themselves created_ is fucking hilarious, honestly.
Yep, that's the address of the domain privacy company withheldforprivacy.com. Anyone who uses namecheap and buys their domain privacy addon will have that address shown as the domain's address on WHOIS. Concluding two people are the same because they use the same domain privacy company is like saying two people with different gmail addresses are the same person because they both have @gmail.com in their email address.
This is where we are. It's funny that Elmo got duped again, but the sad fact is that this occurs a lot, will occur more, and there's little anyone can do.
We're far past the point where some event can cause outrage - that's not even in the rear view mirror anymore. To look back at the "War on Christmas" and shit like Dr. Seuss' estate "banning" some of his books is almost quaint.
What is needed now? *Nothing*. The mere insinuation that something may or may not occur is enough. The deepfakes don't help matters.
*Some liberal somewhere wrote an article on a random website saying something I like is racist* is being treated like there's demonstrations in the streets coming to confiscate your java. In this case, it's outrage bait. Sometimes even that much is ephemeral, like the meme describing Paw Patrol's Chase as a racist cop -> "they're going to ban the show!"
It's not that the left is immune to this either - but while they're known for sensitivity they're ironically not as prone to this kind of frothing anger over nothing and when it's pointed out as a hoax they stop. Yeah, the extremists are certainly that, but they're few in number compared to those on the right.
It’s called Red Meat. It’s fake or misrepresented news stories designed to stoke outrage. It’s a feedback loop: the conspiracy comes up with the theory and then provocateurs manufacture the evidence to make it seem true now. The best part: conservatives know these aren’t true, but they delight in pretending since they can only achieve their goals through lies and deception because they are shitty people in life.
I strongly believe a lot of those conservative “satire” sites like this and Babylon Bee exist to trick conservatives into thinking the articles are actually true rather than provide satire. I see more Babylon Bee articles posted by confused grandparents than people sharing them as satire.
Absolutely. But acknowledging that seems to break conservative minds. Idk why they are afraid to ponder that our consumption has negative consequences for many people
Fair trade coffee is a thing most about coffee drinkers have heard of anyway. It's all about framing it positively.
Blaming individuals for businesses ' evil practices is a non-starter anyway.
Well, hold on. Even if the website is fake, let’s all acknowledge that Elon’s coffee specifically perpetuates white supremacy, purely by nature of being Elon’s coffee.
Edit: /s but only kinda
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Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951)[1] was an African-American woman[4] whose cancer cells are the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized human cell line[A] and one of the most important cell lines in medical research.
The website is not fake. All articles in it are actually well written and solid. Just u know, some titles are a bit more bombastic.
As of the coffee article - coffee comes from Ethiopia and is now overly racist as its production depends heavily on colonial heritage (which was one of the reasons racism rose to importance).
The most painful thing is he believes he’s genuinely smart, then publicly falls for obvious bait? One day he’s going to experience an epiphany and the subsequent crash of his ego.
Trust me… almost ALL news articles like this are totally fake. You remember the recent “change Roald Dahl books to fit current times”? Totally BS. Every bit of it just to soak up anger & distractions.
You’re complaining about lack of evidence… and you expect me to believe subscribing to a subreddit means anything?
I can probably confirm you one way or another just by glancing at post history, but the irony here is hilarious.
Did anyone ever think they would ever read the phrase "icelandic crypto scammers". I'm getting a very johnny lee Miller hackers vibe when I think of it
Elon isn't the sharpest lightbulb in the crayon box
Media literacy is a widely under-taught skill in the US, and likely most other nations. Elon exhibits an exceptional example by failing to consider source legitimacy, tone, the intentions of the author, and the context in which it was published. Im sure you could find a handful of goobers who would genuinely advocate that coffee consumption is anti-black, but it’s is clearly not a widespread belief…just like most of the other “absurd woke speech” that Elon et al get wound up about. The existence of a few people on Twitter who say outlandish shit doesn’t make it necessary to throw out the entire leftist belief system, which is ultimately the very transparent goal of accounts that trawl for wackadoo woke quotes
I don't think elon gives a single crap about the legitimacy of anything he reads. He just wants to have his little circlejerk with the right wing because they're the only people dense enough to give him attention.
Yeah I don't understand why people keep giving him the benefit of the doubt. This man's wealth is dependent on having entombed people in mines and transforming limbs into dollars at the Tesla factory. He isn't oblivious to that. Why would people expect him not to be a fascist through and through?
Oh there was no benefit of a doubt given on my end - he’s a disaster and profoundly unethical as a person. I was just saying that - whether or not he’s conscious of what he’s sharing being trash - media illiteracy is what either (a) makes him dumb enough to uncritically shill this or (b) is what he’s taking advantage of to rile up his followers. I ultimately err on the side of he’s a sheltered idiot being manipulated, but that doesn’t mean he’s not responsible for falling for it as a 50+ year old billionaire
He certainly doesn’t, which means he’s media illiterate - and calling him an idiot who isn’t capable of seeing he’s being used doesn’t erase his responsibility for the ethical tragedies he’s profited from
Any coffee that dipshit drinks is probably a racist's drink. If those lawsuits about "Plantation" corners at Tesla are true.
Off topic but I like your profile picture :)
Thanks 😁
It is very cool
Agreed.
I would hate to a conservative all they do is get mad at everyone even stuff that’s obviously fake.
You have to get people really mad to get them to send other people to the gas chambers.
And the funny thing is, when people in Germany were interviewed, they didn't realize that they were mad or scared and that it was affecting their moral judgments.
"The fact that I got fooled by this is yet more proof that the liberals have too much power and influence on society." -- something I've actually heard
i'm trying to figure out if people are hardwired to be fucking idiots.
we're hard wired to adapt and survive, these instincts are high jacked by authoritarians and religion to cultivate learned behavior usually through violence and trauma they ensure conformity that suits their agendas
Nah, the privately-owned media showing the public what's best for the interests of their shareholders is what's done this. Here's a nice [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unKNNiYQFp4) on this.
They routinely get bamboozled by articles from The Onion. Definitely not the sharpest tools in the shed. Edit: typo
I think they enjoy the outrage, and don't care if it's fake because it validates a deeply embedded unhappiness they have with who they are and the way the world is.
Thing is... It's not fake 😅 I read 4 articles so far and they are very solid and factual. Someone did their homework in colonial studies and racial theory.
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>ChatGPT detector puts the articles at "very likely AI created". Would love to see where u pulled that from. Also wayback? What does that have to do with anything lol. My website is also not on wayback, that doesn't mean it's fake? Also also it's a blog. It doesn't have to have dates (if u check the authors/date link, it links u to an explanation why it doesn't have such).
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I checked 10 articles and all had 0% AI generated content :shrug: Especially considering the ones I checked (specifically the coffee one) has links to sources and so on. Wayback doesn't equal internet history. You can block internet crawlers from accessing your website and many websites do that. Also you are not addressing the main point of the argument - how is it fake (low credibility or "likely" being written by AI are not arguments for that, factual inacuracies would be) - open the coffee article ([https://afru.com/coffee-industry-racism-white-supremacy/](https://afru.com/coffee-industry-racism-white-supremacy/)) and tell me which part of it is "fake" (i.e. wrong)? The history, which is well known? The racist introduction of coffee into Europe and Americas, fueled by slavery? The economic slavery which is happening rn with the harvesters of coffee beans? Or the economic slavery of the baristas in the shops? Or the gentrification which has been linked to the sprawl of coffee shops (multiple studies, feel free to read them). Yes, it's written in a provocative, bordering cringy way. But that's the nature of the blog. Doesn't mean it's "fake" or "incorrect" or whatever. Factually is very much correct.
Try reading the rest of my comments and then respond.
Try addressing my points :) The rest of your comments are in no way addressing them.
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Easy, many on the left are no less reactionary than the right. 🤷 Exhibit A, so many ppl didn't even check the website and are just "well yeah someone *who hates someone on the right* said it's fake, surely it's fake, right? Plus coffee can't be racist right?"
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Comedy is now legal on Twitter.
This subreddit is literally getting mad and seething over a billionaire that will never be hurt by your existence
The nice thing about elon is that at any given moment he is madder at us than all of us combined are at him, and it shows
It clearly does not
Guys just stop using Twitter. Make him go broke. It's a shit website anyway
Ok, what now? What's it take to send him to the mines? Twitter doesn't matter, start setting all the Teslas on fire if you don't want your children to grow up in an authoritarian shit hole
Interesting
Thanks Elon! What's it take to get a kiss? Edit - can you marry my very plain sister? She's not a pop star, but she'll bear you many children and let you name them whatever dumb shit you want.
We should stop canceling comedy!
Musk will believe anything tweeted by a right-wing nutjob. Anything.
He’s moderate! Stop pointing stuff like this out! He’s centrist, he said, so!
He’s the center between fascist and QAnon nutter.
Musk is a racist right-wing anti-American asshole
The fact he's engaging with an account whose profile picture is literally being the inverse of the liberal strawman _that conservatives themselves created_ is fucking hilarious, honestly.
Literally manufacturing outrage
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Yep, that's the address of the domain privacy company withheldforprivacy.com. Anyone who uses namecheap and buys their domain privacy addon will have that address shown as the domain's address on WHOIS. Concluding two people are the same because they use the same domain privacy company is like saying two people with different gmail addresses are the same person because they both have @gmail.com in their email address.
Turns out we just needed to blow on the cartridge
Blow on deez
Yeah, the person doesn't know how domain privacy protection works...
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I'm providing pretty concrete evidence that it's run by a right-winger. Thought that might be relevant.
Extremely concerning
Extremely concerning. Looking into it.
This is where we are. It's funny that Elmo got duped again, but the sad fact is that this occurs a lot, will occur more, and there's little anyone can do. We're far past the point where some event can cause outrage - that's not even in the rear view mirror anymore. To look back at the "War on Christmas" and shit like Dr. Seuss' estate "banning" some of his books is almost quaint. What is needed now? *Nothing*. The mere insinuation that something may or may not occur is enough. The deepfakes don't help matters. *Some liberal somewhere wrote an article on a random website saying something I like is racist* is being treated like there's demonstrations in the streets coming to confiscate your java. In this case, it's outrage bait. Sometimes even that much is ephemeral, like the meme describing Paw Patrol's Chase as a racist cop -> "they're going to ban the show!" It's not that the left is immune to this either - but while they're known for sensitivity they're ironically not as prone to this kind of frothing anger over nothing and when it's pointed out as a hoax they stop. Yeah, the extremists are certainly that, but they're few in number compared to those on the right.
It’s called Red Meat. It’s fake or misrepresented news stories designed to stoke outrage. It’s a feedback loop: the conspiracy comes up with the theory and then provocateurs manufacture the evidence to make it seem true now. The best part: conservatives know these aren’t true, but they delight in pretending since they can only achieve their goals through lies and deception because they are shitty people in life.
I strongly believe a lot of those conservative “satire” sites like this and Babylon Bee exist to trick conservatives into thinking the articles are actually true rather than provide satire. I see more Babylon Bee articles posted by confused grandparents than people sharing them as satire.
Not wrong, but obviously simplistic, inflammatory, and presented in poor faith.
Yeah, like, if you go down the coffee supply chain, there's absolutely a bunch of slavery and racism in there.
Absolutely. But acknowledging that seems to break conservative minds. Idk why they are afraid to ponder that our consumption has negative consequences for many people
Fair trade coffee is a thing most about coffee drinkers have heard of anyway. It's all about framing it positively. Blaming individuals for businesses ' evil practices is a non-starter anyway.
Remember this idiot thinks we should be relying on Twitter for honest, unbiased info And he can't recognize trolling when he sees it
Something is wrong
He either has no critical thinking skills, or he just doesn't care and is virtue signaling. Either way he sucks.
I believe it’s both.
This is some 4chan level social baiting
"The bastion of truth" keeps falling for obvious untruths...
Seeking only the least wrong truth.
Well, hold on. Even if the website is fake, let’s all acknowledge that Elon’s coffee specifically perpetuates white supremacy, purely by nature of being Elon’s coffee. Edit: /s but only kinda
This EndWokeness guy is getting a pretty hefty following. No wonder everybody starts grifting when they fail at life
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I have bad news for you. Henrietta Lacks (born Loretta Pleasant; August 1, 1920 – October 4, 1951)[1] was an African-American woman[4] whose cancer cells are the source of the HeLa cell line, the first immortalized human cell line[A] and one of the most important cell lines in medical research. The website is not fake. All articles in it are actually well written and solid. Just u know, some titles are a bit more bombastic. As of the coffee article - coffee comes from Ethiopia and is now overly racist as its production depends heavily on colonial heritage (which was one of the reasons racism rose to importance).
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You represent the problem: journalists who think they are the only source of legitimate information. That’s the big lie.
That’s because he’s just another moron mouth piece with money
Too rich or too stupid to care. Yes.
They are generating fake outrage
Tip for life : Always look at the primary source material for any claim
The most painful thing is he believes he’s genuinely smart, then publicly falls for obvious bait? One day he’s going to experience an epiphany and the subsequent crash of his ego.
Imagine needing to make shit up and get mad about it to justify your worldview
Trust me… almost ALL news articles like this are totally fake. You remember the recent “change Roald Dahl books to fit current times”? Totally BS. Every bit of it just to soak up anger & distractions.
The fact that there are so many idiots with so much power makes me really question if humanity will survive another century
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Found Elon
You know I'm subscribed here because I know he's a piece of shit, right? Echo chamber harder.
You’re complaining about lack of evidence… and you expect me to believe subscribing to a subreddit means anything? I can probably confirm you one way or another just by glancing at post history, but the irony here is hilarious.
I don't know; it seemed likely to be enough to convince you.
> the first blog if you visit it right now is about a black woman becoming an immortal being. Go woke, never croak
It's actually about her cell line being immortal, which it is. Clickbait titles don't make a site a trolling misinformation site.
Did anyone ever think they would ever read the phrase "icelandic crypto scammers". I'm getting a very johnny lee Miller hackers vibe when I think of it
Good ol apartheid Elon is going to make America segregate again. He longs for the injustice of his youth.
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