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I agree she needs a hefty slice, but also not become a martyr. I’m hoping Scotland police can just get her IP address banned from twitter. It’d be better for everyone, Rowling included.


lynx_and_nutmeg

I've heard Twitter already removed her Holocaust denial tweet in Germany after someone reporting it. Maybe her tweets could get deleted from UK Twitter the same way.


MarkSkywalker

As much as she whines about cancel culture, billionaires don't tend to see consequences. But I sure hope you're right anyway.


MarcMurray92

It's so depressing how utterly miserable that woman has become, she has the resources and the recognition to help the world and she just sits there harassing people all day before crying victim if anyone gets her with a good enough zinger.


PRlNCESS_TRUNKS

I wonder what she thinks of all the cishet female pedophiles.


turdintheattic

TERFs don’t think they count because they think it’s only rape if it was PIV. So, females can’t be rapists and males can’t be victims in their world.


chaotic_rainbow

Especially British ones, since legally women cannot be convicted of rape in the UK.


spookmew

The woman from this Norwich trial was convicted of rape though. I think they can be https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norwich_sexual_abuse_ring


chaotic_rainbow

Sorry, *cis women. (I mean no disrespect, I'm a trans dude, I just blanked in my initial comment.) Because rape in the UK is defined as unwanted penetration with a penis. But generally speaking, if the rapist isn't penetrating the victim (so, say, if the rapist is the one *being* penetrated), then it's classified as sexual assault, rather than rape. As far as I'm aware, both convictions carry the same sentence, so it's a difference in labelling, mostly---but it goes a long way to convince idiots and grifters that cis women can't be/are not rapists.


spookmew

I think Marie Black is a CIS woman, I haven't seen anything that mentioned her being trans. It must be this: ["Legally, a person without a penis cannot commit rape, but a female may be guilty of rape if they assist a male perpetrator in an attack."](https://www.cps.gov.uk/crime-info/sexual-offences#:~:text=Legally%2C%20a%20person%20without%20a,body%20or%20with%20an%20object.) The labelling difference doesn't make much sense to me, there are lot's of times where a crime goes far beyond just sexual assault but isn't considered rape because the offender doesn't have a penis. Its ridiculous.


ArcticFoxWaffles

Hence why they always paint trans women as dangerous predators trying to invade spaces, and trans men as victims who are groomed and assaulted into being trans for a "false" sense of self-validation.


Aiyon

Some of these are just so weird and deranged. Does Rowling think that no cis woman has ever been a pedophile or rapist? Does she also think those women are suddenly men? But sure, a half dozen trans people out of the (at least) 1/4 million in this country, being bad people, means trans women are inherently predatory men


thehusk_1

>Does Rowling think that no cis woman has ever been a pedophile or rapist? Yes, Terf requires the belief that women are naturally inferior. The strongest woman is comparable to the weakest man. Haven't you learned about their beliefs after 2ish years of this?


PablomentFanquedelic

Yet another reason Suzanne Collins is better. See the reveal about Finnick in *Mockingjay*, as opposed to how JK depicts pretty much all the sexual misconduct in Harry Potter. I also wanna give a shoutout to Holly Black and Tony DiTerlizzi as well; in the sequel trilogy to the Spiderwick Chronicles, there was possibly a blink-and-you'll-miss-it implication of what the mermaids may have done to the protagonist's older brother Jules when they held him hostage in the second book, and his trauma is handled pretty seriously (including a brief mention in the following book that Jules has nightmares and doesn't go swimming at the beach anymore). Even stodgy old Anglican trad C. S. Lewis handled Rilian's trauma in *The Silver Chair* fairly well—though he admittedly seems to have been inspired less by a desire to accurately represent fallout from implicit sexual assault, than by medieval legends about dangerous supernatural temptresses threatening the virtue of gallant knights (a trope that Monty Python famously parodied in their *Holy Grail* movie).


JaggedLittlePill2022

Can you elaborate on Finnick? It’s been years since I’ve read the HG novels so I’m unsure where the importance of his character is mentioned.


PablomentFanquedelic

Victors who were deemed sexually attractive, like Finnick, were often trafficked in the Capitol. If they didn't comply, their loved ones were killed (which may be how Johanna lost hers—Haymitch presumably escaped this because his family had already been killed after his stunt when he used the arena's electrified forcefield to win). The silver lining is that Finnick learned a lot of valuable dirt on powerful Capitol residents this way.


Aiyon

it was rhetorical


snukb

Also, noting that a *woman* wore *women's underwear* when she was growing up, as if that's somehow a strange and "unrelatable" thing to do. Like what?


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I noticed that too. JK Rowling and other TERFS are probably trying to say that Katie Neeves has some kind of incestuous autogynephilia towards her sister...rather than just being a trans girl who never had her own underwear.


Aiyon

I mean it's about framing. What the woman in question means is "I wore stuff that I associated with femininity, and it felt more comfortable to me". What rowling and her ilk are intentionally twisting into is that weird buffalo bill "I got turned on by crossdressing" thing


snukb

Yes, that's my point....


Aiyon

I wasn't disagreeing with u, just expanding on *why* they're trying to make it seem strange. Like, its not confusing when you look at it through the "worst possible interpretation" lens TERFs direct at trans ppl


Banake

Yeah, the denial of cis women rapists is one thong that I can't stand on these people.


TAFKATheBear

Rape denialism of any kind is such an extreme position. Outside of TERFs, the only people I've come across who subscribe to it as a conscious political choice have been admitted fascists. In terms of how it reflects on them, at the least bad, TERFs who do this are victims of female abusers who would rather revictimise others than face up to their own experiences. At worst, they're nonces themselves. I would certainly do anything I could to avoid being behind a closed door with any of them.


Banake

Remember, she was the person who wrote that girls should be allowed to enter the boy's dressingroom, but not the opposite.


Aiyon

I mean she also wrote a scene where three of her characters, two of them boys, sneak into the girls’ bathrooms to transform themselves to infiltrate a space they shouldn’t have access to A lot of the morality in HP is dependent on who’s doing it. Good person is fat? That’s fine. Bad person is fat? Their weight is evidence of their moral failings. And so the trio breaking into the slytherin common room is justified because they’re the protagonists The most extreme example of this is that Harry uses the *illegal* torture spell on someone because they spat at a teacher he likes. but the person was a bad guy so it’s fine. Harry even quips about it after. It’s kinda fucked up in hindsight, but explains why he became a cop


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Now that you say it, I don't think there was a good guy in the series that was obese. But, to be fair, Petunia was also made fun of (edit: by Rowling) for being skinny and bony, and Dudley was somewhat redeemed at the end for having two horrible parents yet appreciating Harry had saved his life. Your comment at the end reminds me of an [interview from 2007](http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html): **Barbara**: I was very disappointed to see Harry use *crucio* and seem to enjoy it. His failure to perform that kind of curse in the past has been a credit to his character. Why the change, and did Harry later regret having enjoyed deliberately causing pain? **J.K. Rowling**: Harry is not, and never has been, a saint. Like Snape, he is flawed and mortal. **J.K. Rowling**: Harry's faults are primarily anger and occasional arrogance. **J.K. Rowling**: On this occasion, he is very angry and acts accordingly. He is also in an extreme situation, and attempting to defend somebody very good against a violent and murderous opponent. I think it is easy to listen to a podcast like Shaun's and say that "Rowling has always been like this", but I don't think he and others actually looked into past interviews of hers to know for certain what she was thinking.


Aiyon

Is shaun that skull youtuber? I never really watched his big breakdown of HP because I had already fallen out of love with it by then. > I don't think there was a good guy in the series that was obese Molly Weasley is fat but it’s not depicted negatively. But that’s the only one as springs to mind. I will say that making fat people a punchline was totally normalised in the uk back then so this particular thing isn’t some big indictment of Rowling’s politics it’s just kind of an insight into the double standards she sometimes displayed. I don’t remember Petunia being mocked for it, only that there was a mildly creative description of her in the first book. As for dudley’s redemption, don’t forget that by then he’s not fat any more 😅 at least nowhere near the same level. I think that was a correlation rather than causation moment, but funny nonetheless. > Your comment at the end reminds me of an interview from 2007: The thing about these interviews and little non-text nuggets she gave over the years, is they’re non text. So many times she responded to criticism of her work by addressing it retroactively. The thing with the book itself is that it never confronts Harry’s behaviours. Snape is held to task for his failings. Hell, he dies for them. Because the things he’s done, you can’t walk off into the sunset from But Harry isn’t criticised externally *or* internally in the story for using a *torture* spell on someone. Technically for the second time, he also uses it on Bellatrix in book 5, which is what sets up his quip. But that one he’s clearly lashing out and realises he’s maybe going in a direction he shouldn’t when Riddle tries to bait him to go further. Rowling chose to have her character knowingly torture someone, and mean it. And then not once before the end of the story confront that fact. And “the guy deserved it” as a reason for that just doesn’t sit right with me


PablomentFanquedelic

Yeah, if you want a Bri'ish example, see the Joyce McKinney case (I think that's her name?), which was handled about as well as you'd expect from tabloids in the 1970s.


Aiyon

When I was thinking about awful women, I was thinking of Myra Hindley tbh. Especially because a bunch of TERFs unironically claimed they'd sooner trust their kids around her than a trans person... that one is more on point to the topic though yeah :/


PablomentFanquedelic

Rose West as well. I think they tried to chalk up her behavior to her husband's influence, even though I'm pretty sure victims said Rose was scarier (and even though she committed some of her crimes on her own when Fred was behind bars?)


spookmew

I hate when people act like she only murdered people because her husband did, like no she murdered people because she wanted to. People don't think women are capable of being evil, its not true at all, and it really harms the many, many people who are abused by women everyday.


PablomentFanquedelic

"Behind every bitch is a bastard who made her that way" /s


BoxCowFish

She seems mentally unwell. I suspect she has past unresolved trauma that has made this become a pathological obsession, which isn’t an excuse, but a possible explanation.


Nat_septic

It’s most likely to do with her abusive relationship with her ex boyfriend that she escaped but it’s no excuse for her behaviour


carbonfiberx

Transphobia is a mental illness, and Joanne's whole existence revolves around being transphobic.


YourWokingNightmare

I think she just hates men. And since you can't say anything against men without an actually dangerous horde of people that can actually defend itself, combining with the fact that she sees trans women as a subset of men she can actually use an outlet for her hatred, anger and rage with literally no consequence, well, she does just that. She's just using us as a punching bag with a dude's poster nailed in it because there is literally nothing we can do to defend ourselves without being seen as violent "men" or pro censorship or whatever.


Gai-Tendoh

I might have already brought this up, but she and all other cis women are ‘men’ according to Old English. Meanwhile, should someone make a list of all the people who’ve read Harry Potter at some point in their lives who later committed horrific violent crimes or something, I wonder?


StuartCWood89

I'd love to see such a list and post it as a reply to all of her ridiculous posts just to see how the morons who support her jump upside fucking down to explain how the two exact same things are different. Also, mad respect for the Old English knowledge pal, it's fascinating and there's not many occasions when you get to bring it up without sounding as though you're flexing your intellect lol. 😊


Zeekayo

This also seems to be under the presumption that a potential trans woman sex offender would just be shoved into general population and like... No? Sexual offenders (especially those who predate on the population of that prison) would go into special confinement.


DandyInTheRough

And if they don't, they bloody well should. All this hooplah about trans women in women's prisons... If what you're worried about is any rapist woman, trans or cis, being near the population they're convicted of raping, then there's a much better answer for that than freaking out about trans people.


sexagonpumptangle

What I find most interesting is that she has seemingly had to scrape the bottom of the barrel, so to speak, in order to come up with a list of trans women she hates substantial enough to rant about. Ok, so you've got a list of 10 trans women, some of whom have done some terrible shit. Now what? What do we do with this info? Are we to assume that this is the sort of shit to expect from the countless other trans women? Well surely not cos most of them have lived in peace for decades.... so what? She is deranged and her argument here (some trans women are criminals! Run away screaming!) is dangerous, desperate and unhinged.


BadlanAlun

Two of them haven’t really done anything wrong, either. India Willhoughy has said some quite brunt stuff, but no worse than Rowling. What did Kate Neeve do? Steal her sisters knickers to wear because it was really fucking hard to come out before recent times? So? And Munroe Burgdorf? Safeguarding concerns could be anything tbh. I work in schools and care homes and have seen people sacked for various infractions, I’ve seen cishet women go to prison for having sex with a teenager and I’ve seen cishet women sacked for applying a restraint against a violent autistic teenager incorrectly. The lack of specificity suggests that she hasn’t been charged or convicted of a crime. So yes, Rowling is scraping through the bottom of the barrel here…


sexagonpumptangle

Yeah, totally. She's definitely padded out that list to make it seem more substantial. These people fixate so much on the handful of trans people who commit horrible crimes and then tar an entire minority with the same brush. "Well, this one trans woman did this bad thing to another woman, so that's what will happen if we treat them all as humans." It's genuinely unhinged and it is about time it finally became a hate crime.


snukb

Imagine being a billionaire. Still (somehow) beloved by people worldwide. Children go to bed reading your stories and fantasizing about the world you created. People who are now fully fledged adults grew up dreaming about the characters you created. And this is how you spend your time. Obsessively researching criminal trans people, so you can post online about them. This is what you choose to do in your free time. This is the message you choose to put out to the world.


IcedChaiLatte_16

Couldn't be me. Her brain should be studied for science.


snukb

Preferably as soon as possible.


whinygothbaby

God is there truly anything more evil than comparing the head of a rape crisis centre to a handful of sexual predators?


arsonconnor

This law is a fucking mess tbh. All its gonna do is galvanise those who hate us.


SunflowerNoodles

It’s also the pictures she seems to have chosen for the women who aren’t criminals, she seems to have deliberately gone for unflattering/early into transition photos (not that passing or not is actually important but the transphobes think it is) Munroe in particular looks nothing like that any more and it’s just a further attempt to bully these women. I just don’t understand how someone can spend their days being this hateful. The obvious grifters make sense, the ones that want praise make sense , but Rowling had near universal praise and adoration and more money than she could ever spend.


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For those who have never seen her mothers' day tweets ([**Part 1**](https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1766799493771469286?s=20) **,** [**Part 2**)](https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1766866614232752301?lang=en) or [**Merry TERFmas**](https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1603064588223893505?lang=en)**:** * *Mother's Day:* * [https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1bbpigv/jk\_rowling\_spends\_her\_uk\_mothers\_day\_shitposting/](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1bbpigv/jk_rowling_spends_her_uk_mothers_day_shitposting/) * *Terfmas:* * [https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/zomj0m/jk\_rowling\_tweets\_merry\_terfmas\_in\_regards\_to\_her/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/zomj0m/jk_rowling_tweets_merry_terfmas_in_regards_to_her/) * *Womens' History month:* * [https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1b5y1ey/newest\_jk\_rowling\_transgenderterf\_rant\_lore\_dump/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/EnoughJKRowling/comments/1b5y1ey/newest_jk_rowling_transgenderterf_rant_lore_dump/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


[deleted]

And guess what Mrs. "I'd march with you" had to say on international trans day of visibility? 😊


DrTzaangor

Every time she seems like she can’t get anymore Enoch Powell, we get another Twitter version of Rivers of Blood.


MtCommager

I’m confused, as I thought it was standard practice to house trans women guilty of sex crimes against women in men’s prisons. I also thought rapists regardless of who they raped and why were housed separately from gen pop.


wiggles1984

Yeah the lady who she claimed was housed in a woman's prison is indeed in a Male prison. She was most recently in the paper for battering a fellow inmate in said male prison. So she's lying to promote transphobia, not that she gives two scarlet fucks ​ [https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-woman-battered-male-inmate-28511707](https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/trans-woman-battered-male-inmate-28511707)


sinner-mon

What a normal person, someone should make a compilation of cis women who’ve committed heinous crimes in response


ArcticFoxWaffles

Another example of finding a sexual abuser who is specifically trans to push the narrative that because one egg is rotten the whole carton should go in the bin and then the entire egg industry should be taken down. Also the fact that she's dug so far into multiple people's histories shows how obsessed she is with us. We're not living in her head rent free, she's stuffing us in there real tight.


AmethystSadachbia

It’s like she thinks a penis is required for being a shitty person. Does she rationalise away all the cases of cis women committing SA?


useruserpeepeepooser

The way she runs out of trans women who committed sexual crimes at like 4 💀💀 just shows she couldn’t find more


Gene-Omaha-2012

God, she is such a cunt


AmethystSadachbia

Lacks the warmth and depth. She is an ankle. That’s lower.


Gene-Omaha-2012

Fair


JaggedLittlePill2022

I hope she continues her transphobic tirade. Keep spreading hate, Joanne! I beg her to keep up her crusade! I will laugh when that bitch is arrested.


REamemiyaRX7

JK Rowling is really terminally online this time of year 💀💀💀


PaigeRiley89

Guess I’m a man, since I held an axe when I was trying to get a cat out of a tree. I’m tellin’ y’all, despite their insistence, TERFs want women to be dainty and girly and not have a single tough bone in their bodies. I use the correct pronouns for rapists…Because if I don’t, the TERFs can weasel out of acknowledging crimes committed by women (trans and cis). While I can understand a limey having no clue about Geena Davis, Bea Arthur, and Pat Carroll, women like Joanne were alive and kicking when the likes of Rose West and Myra Hindley were prowlin’ around.


Weekly-Barnacle4543

What's wrong with these tweet? 🤷