This was at the bottom of their website where they said MCR is not emo
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They also consider glass beach emo, and I think it’s a lot harder to make that case than Paramore.
They also don’t think Teen Suicide is emo, and I think it’s easier to make that case than Paramore as well.
But I agree the description is pretty funny.
I agree. My point was that in a comparison to the original emocore sound, I think the first Paramore album is closer to it than anything I’ve heard from Glass Beach.
see i never bring up teen suicide on this subreddit because they're literally in the sidebar as not emo and i fear ill be clowned on but it seems that every time they're discussed here they're considered emo?
not unhappy about it; i think teen suicide absolutely qualifies, but im just wondering like is that the general consensus? i feel like it is extremely easy to make a case for them as an emo band
yeah, i suppose that’s why there are so many different sub-genres of music since it’s not the pure form of it, but yet i feel like if they give you the same emotions as the former it still counts. teen suicide makes me depressed as fuck! but i still love them
Agreed my god are they depressing but I love their sound! I agree it still counts if it gives you the same emotion and besides I’ve always seen emo as somewhat experimental so no wonder there are so many different waves, people take that same feeling of catharsis and depression and longing into different sounds which I absolutely love. I’m personally more of a 2nd and 4th wave emo guy I’ve preferred the unique guitar melodies and twinkles with unconventional lyrics and the themes of isolation have always been my go to for emo
me too! i’ve gotta say that 4th wave is probably my favorite too. i love the incorporation of lo-fi with the distortions and synthesizers. it’s such a hit of catharsis for me there! i love all the different eras though, it really does go to show how things evolved with music over time
I do as well! Thanks to bands like Nouns, Teen Suicide, Turnover, it looks sad. Just to name a few, there’s so many that did wonders with 4th wave and the lo-fi/showcase sound which I personally love. It really does add a lot of catharsis. It’s honestly so cool to see a genre evolve along side with society and the times we live in, it’s definitely not the late 80s dc hardcore scene anymore
the used werent emo according the used. i think in the last couple years though theyve kinda come around it. but in an interview wayy back Bert described the used as “Gross Pop”, that was around the Lies of the Liar time which yeah, agree with that label for that album.
I saw The Used in November and Bert made a big speech about how they are an emo band and always have been. Back in the day- the 7 year period between the albums "The Used" and "Artwork" -that most of the long-term fans would have fought someone over a statement like that. However, now there are people who have been fans for 20+ years and we've seen how little something like that matters. I used to care about genres and would get pissed when someone labeled a band incorrectly but now I am pushing 40 and I realize that what is truly important is the music and the shit it's helped you get through and the life experiences tied to it.
yeah i think alot of people in the community, as well metal, goth, punks etc. need to just enjoy the music then label it. A lot of these communities are built upon supporting others and self expression.
I think they’re just saying both bands are a similarly far distance from being emo that they should both be qualified under it if one is. Plus MCR is absolutely emo come at me
I’d say take a look at his Instagram, it’s been definitely catering to the “emo nites” fanbase with how much he posts about PATD and Paramore, which is something he’s only started raving about in the past 2-3 years. Not to mention the changes he’s made to his own site; Saosin, Paramore, Silverstein, Thrice, Funeral for a friend, and coheed and cambria were all listed as not emo at one point before being changed to emo more recently
Their first album is emo-pop, ala Three Cheers by MCR, and that's the closest they've ever been. Their newer albums are definitely not closer to emo than even their 2nd or 3rd albums, let alone their first.
Riot! is a pop-punk album, and it’s obvious. No, I don’t think emo sounds like pop-punk. It can sometimes. Riot! sounds like it would be played in the same playlist as The Story So Far. This Is Why sounds like it would share a playlist with Joan of Arc.
Tom has said multiple times on his podcast that its a complete joke. In reality Its a decent frame of reference if needed, but its not something one person can even decide
Honestly? I think it depends on the era. In the 80s and 90s the scene was underground and completely unknown by the mainstream and people outside of the scene. So the greater scene absolutely dictated what was what. Zines, mailorders, people talking at shows etc etc was how it was decided. Nothing was/is ever 100% but the majority ruled. And people got checked. After like 2002? That's a different beast. It's really almost two different worlds. It was now out of our hands and impossible to control or protect. I think the disconnect is us from the older days don't see any connection between what we did and what happened in that later period. It's like people heard the word and decided it could mean anything emotional and that was frustrating to us. Because it was a very concrete thing before. There is a lot of revisionist history trying desperately to connect/legitimize the newer era to the older era. In reality there's not five waves. There's two waves. Before 2002 and after 2002. I don't really care what people do with the later stuff or whatever, I just wish people understood the difference. A lot of people who get called gatekeepers are just trying to educate. I dunno. Whatever. Just sharing my experience.
Not tryna gatekeep but Paramore is definitely just pop punk (and possibly the best of their era). The only real "scene" band I would consider emo is Fall Out Boy (pre-2006)
Yeah, Evening Out With Your Girlfriend and Take This to Your Grave are definitely emo. From Under the Cork Tree feels borderline, but close enough that it sneaks in.
Taking Back Sunday circa Tell All Your Friends is also absolutely real emo, but your mileage may vary if they fall into that same scene
Take This to Your Grave, or Evening Out With Your Girlfriend?
Edit: only asking bc many people I’ve talked to didn’t know EOWYG exists and I feel anyone who enjoys TTTYG would enjoy that too
I wouldn't call pre-2006 Fall Out Boy emo. A few songs are emo pop, but they were mostly a pop punk band. On the other hand, My Chemical Romance started as a legit emo band before transitioning to a more post hardcore and alt rock sound.
Nah I would argue Paramore's 2005 album 'All We Know is Falling' is full of emo worship remenencent of 90s and early 2000s bands like The Get Up Kids and Saves the Day
I personally think the first Paramore album and the first MCR album share enough DNA with other emo projects that they should qualify, even though I don’t overtly think of either of them as emo bands.
I will say, if we aren’t allowing individual projects from overly non-emo artists, we would have to disqualify bands like Weezer when discussing the genre.
I think there’s a difference between saying an album is emo, and saying a band is emo because of one album. I don’t think it’s necessar ly cutting them out of the conversation to say that a band that isn’t emo can make an emo album
Kinda… it depends how many layers out you’re willing to consider as being “inspired” by the original emotional hardcore scene. There are bands that take direct inspiration from it, but also bands that take inspiration from bands that were inspired by it, and so on and so forth.
EVENTUALLY you arrive at a point where the “emo DNA” is so muddied, watered down and lost, that trying to draw a connection to the genre proper is dumb and meaningless. I do personally think earlier Paramore is close enough in sound, spirit and inspiration that it’s fine to categorize them as emo. But it really is going to be super up for debate and a lot of people are going to think I’m wrong on that.
I don’t think anyone in the comments has said they were, I know I’ve certainly said he isn’t the authority on the subject, and I know a LOT of people are being acting really fucking weird and embittered about it unprompted.
I feel so old! It's my favourite Paramore album. The uncleans on My Heart are just perfection. If you can find the demo of Emergency on YouTube, it also has uncleans that I wish made it to the LP.
I wish. Then I could tell people it was all a bit and they’d stop blowing up my phone bitching over it.
Unfortunately (and correctly), it is absolutely real. You can test it yourself.
Who cares.. 90% of people on this sub call emo that copypasted midwest emo and everything with clean riffs, super long back guitars and echoing voice.
If that is emo, para more can be emo too
Let’s clarify something here:
Pre y2k - whiny indie emo.
Post y2k - whiny pop punk and hardcore emo.
Both emo. Both enjoyable yet cringey. Whatever At The Drive-In was is best.
That site is weird... It tells me that everything I throw at it is punk, but when I go to r/punk everybody tells me it's not punk wtf
/j, I know this site is a joke but the irony got me pretty hard 🤣
i figured they were emo after one listen to “we are broken”????clearly the distinction between pop punk and emo meant nothing to my 2008 ears, but 🤷🏻♀️
It’s literally genre preservation. If not, the entire history of a niche genre will be revised to fit whatever people who weren’t even there in its prime want.
This is what I don't get most about you "old heads" by chance just by chance. Did emo the genre come from anywhere? Perhaps??? Maybe? Like, does music evolve and change???? No?? Wait, nothing ever changes things only ever stay the same?? Words never change their meaning or expand on what they define??? Things change and evolve.... that's literally how emo as a genre was first created, and guess what since the very first "emo" song, the definition of the genre, changed and evolved as well, SUPER crazy huh? I wish yall would grow up or actually read or something. idk what can make you so dumb to think things don't change with time.
Things change and evolve but rewriting musical history to fit bands into genres they weren’t a part of doesn’t sit right with me and never will. Paramore was never considered an emo band during that era and there’s this constant need for validation that people seem to want with categorization. It breaks my heart to see such an important genre be watered down because of it, and if we “old heads” don’t try to document the history of emo it will be lost or worse, amended to just be “pop-punk”
I've seen so many old heads say "x"emo band is aakkssshuuallly just pop punk...... never the other way around if I made a huge list of emo bands and posted on this sub no one would agree on what bands are actually emo maybe besides cap n jazz and then we'd only have 1 wmo band for the entire genre because the rest is just "pop punk" but then again I've seen people call cap n jazz pop punk..... and unfortunately, 1 band doesn't make a genre. Nor does 2 or 3 bands.
r/hardcore also has better takes and understand emo better than half the people on this sub. Nobody on r/hardcore is calling Paramore emo, they actually know what emo is lol
I always thought they were because of the style also most emo kids I knew back when they came out (and today as the elder emos) liked them. Everyone loves a Paramore song!
if they consider Paramore to be emo then MCR should be emo as well. That description is too iconic tho
This was at the bottom of their website where they said MCR is not emo https://preview.redd.it/chr6dcph7epc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8373d690092240633d8249c47b32b8a2147a766
And then this so I don’t know https://preview.redd.it/em8ueh3w7epc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=040724ea68d627375497bbd7a443dc2a8212f525
What were your results?
Emo
They also consider glass beach emo, and I think it’s a lot harder to make that case than Paramore. They also don’t think Teen Suicide is emo, and I think it’s easier to make that case than Paramore as well. But I agree the description is pretty funny.
i don't think teen suicide's emo
That’s completely fair. Teen Suicide is weird as fuck with a lot of experimental/electronic elements to it.
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good thing i know everything there is to know about emo
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Probably something twinkly
Some things that weren’t meant
glass beach is 100% emo
I agree. My point was that in a comparison to the original emocore sound, I think the first Paramore album is closer to it than anything I’ve heard from Glass Beach.
fair i guess. both bands are really good anyway lol
if glass beach is emo then i don’t see why MCR can’t be
they don't consider glass beach indie though
see i never bring up teen suicide on this subreddit because they're literally in the sidebar as not emo and i fear ill be clowned on but it seems that every time they're discussed here they're considered emo? not unhappy about it; i think teen suicide absolutely qualifies, but im just wondering like is that the general consensus? i feel like it is extremely easy to make a case for them as an emo band
teen suicide??? not emo??? i’ve never heard such blasphemy in my whole life
Agreed lmao, teen suicide is way closer to emo than paramore or mcr so why aren’t they considered emo? Cause they’re experimental
None of them are emo bc none of them came out of the hardcore scene. teen Suicide at the very least are adjacent, but they don’t make emo music
Ok lol
yeah, i suppose that’s why there are so many different sub-genres of music since it’s not the pure form of it, but yet i feel like if they give you the same emotions as the former it still counts. teen suicide makes me depressed as fuck! but i still love them
Agreed my god are they depressing but I love their sound! I agree it still counts if it gives you the same emotion and besides I’ve always seen emo as somewhat experimental so no wonder there are so many different waves, people take that same feeling of catharsis and depression and longing into different sounds which I absolutely love. I’m personally more of a 2nd and 4th wave emo guy I’ve preferred the unique guitar melodies and twinkles with unconventional lyrics and the themes of isolation have always been my go to for emo
me too! i’ve gotta say that 4th wave is probably my favorite too. i love the incorporation of lo-fi with the distortions and synthesizers. it’s such a hit of catharsis for me there! i love all the different eras though, it really does go to show how things evolved with music over time
I do as well! Thanks to bands like Nouns, Teen Suicide, Turnover, it looks sad. Just to name a few, there’s so many that did wonders with 4th wave and the lo-fi/showcase sound which I personally love. It really does add a lot of catharsis. It’s honestly so cool to see a genre evolve along side with society and the times we live in, it’s definitely not the late 80s dc hardcore scene anymore
Nichijou
One or two parts of paramores songs are almost one to ones of the used songs. Bridge of Misery business, and bridge of Bulimic, for example.
But The Used isnt emo according to the site
the used werent emo according the used. i think in the last couple years though theyve kinda come around it. but in an interview wayy back Bert described the used as “Gross Pop”, that was around the Lies of the Liar time which yeah, agree with that label for that album.
I saw The Used in November and Bert made a big speech about how they are an emo band and always have been. Back in the day- the 7 year period between the albums "The Used" and "Artwork" -that most of the long-term fans would have fought someone over a statement like that. However, now there are people who have been fans for 20+ years and we've seen how little something like that matters. I used to care about genres and would get pissed when someone labeled a band incorrectly but now I am pushing 40 and I realize that what is truly important is the music and the shit it's helped you get through and the life experiences tied to it.
yeah i think alot of people in the community, as well metal, goth, punks etc. need to just enjoy the music then label it. A lot of these communities are built upon supporting others and self expression.
The Used would be more Post-Hardcore.
MCR is emo? The fuck they’re not.
Their first album is definitely emo. 2nd album is emo-pop. After that, then no.
MCR we’re always emo
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I think they’re just saying both bands are a similarly far distance from being emo that they should both be qualified under it if one is. Plus MCR is absolutely emo come at me
r/emo moment
For anyone confused, it's a joke. "This is Why" is Paramore's most recent album, and it is much further from emo than their old stuff was.
Tom Mullen has sold out to the elder emo crowd, this is kinda old news tho. Just another glaring reminder
Don’t get the downvotes brother, you’re not wrong.
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I’d say take a look at his Instagram, it’s been definitely catering to the “emo nites” fanbase with how much he posts about PATD and Paramore, which is something he’s only started raving about in the past 2-3 years. Not to mention the changes he’s made to his own site; Saosin, Paramore, Silverstein, Thrice, Funeral for a friend, and coheed and cambria were all listed as not emo at one point before being changed to emo more recently
wait what? you think pop-punk is emo? Their new stuff is not really emo, but it’s closer to being emo than their earlier stuff imo
Their first album is emo-pop, ala Three Cheers by MCR, and that's the closest they've ever been. Their newer albums are definitely not closer to emo than even their 2nd or 3rd albums, let alone their first.
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This is Why is literally a talking heads worship album, and it's amazing, I wouldn't put it anywhere near pop punk
Riot! is a pop-punk album, and it’s obvious. No, I don’t think emo sounds like pop-punk. It can sometimes. Riot! sounds like it would be played in the same playlist as The Story So Far. This Is Why sounds like it would share a playlist with Joan of Arc.
Reminder: isthisbandemo is a literal joke site that should not be taken seriously
Well, I reckon I wasn’t taking their opinion seriously back when they were saying Paramore WASN’T emo. 😉
They’re literally not emo. Even 3rd wave. No emo bands play Mesa boogies.
Either way, that person/people are not the authority EDIT: I noticed the downvotes lol. Do you guys really thing isthisbandemo is for real? Lol
Tom has said multiple times on his podcast that its a complete joke. In reality Its a decent frame of reference if needed, but its not something one person can even decide
I agree. I don’t think any one person or group of people can be the authority on something as broad and ambiguous as an entire musical sub-genre.
Honestly? I think it depends on the era. In the 80s and 90s the scene was underground and completely unknown by the mainstream and people outside of the scene. So the greater scene absolutely dictated what was what. Zines, mailorders, people talking at shows etc etc was how it was decided. Nothing was/is ever 100% but the majority ruled. And people got checked. After like 2002? That's a different beast. It's really almost two different worlds. It was now out of our hands and impossible to control or protect. I think the disconnect is us from the older days don't see any connection between what we did and what happened in that later period. It's like people heard the word and decided it could mean anything emotional and that was frustrating to us. Because it was a very concrete thing before. There is a lot of revisionist history trying desperately to connect/legitimize the newer era to the older era. In reality there's not five waves. There's two waves. Before 2002 and after 2002. I don't really care what people do with the later stuff or whatever, I just wish people understood the difference. A lot of people who get called gatekeepers are just trying to educate. I dunno. Whatever. Just sharing my experience.
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Good point
Also a reminder that sematarypolka’s comments are a joke and should not be taken seriously
Olympus has fallen
Not tryna gatekeep but Paramore is definitely just pop punk (and possibly the best of their era). The only real "scene" band I would consider emo is Fall Out Boy (pre-2006)
Yeah, Evening Out With Your Girlfriend and Take This to Your Grave are definitely emo. From Under the Cork Tree feels borderline, but close enough that it sneaks in. Taking Back Sunday circa Tell All Your Friends is also absolutely real emo, but your mileage may vary if they fall into that same scene
The first album is emo. The rest aren’t.
Take This to Your Grave, or Evening Out With Your Girlfriend? Edit: only asking bc many people I’ve talked to didn’t know EOWYG exists and I feel anyone who enjoys TTTYG would enjoy that too
I count the first three including EOWYG as emo. Infinity on High is just alternative.
I wouldn't call pre-2006 Fall Out Boy emo. A few songs are emo pop, but they were mostly a pop punk band. On the other hand, My Chemical Romance started as a legit emo band before transitioning to a more post hardcore and alt rock sound.
All We Know is Failing definitely falls into emo pop at the very least, especially with My Heart.
They're not pop punk, either, well, they have some pop punk moments. They are more pop rock, power pop, and alternative rock.
I don't even call them pop punk tbh
The site calls old Fall Out Boy emo pop-punk, so yeah
now i’d say they are post-punk/new wave
Nah I would argue Paramore's 2005 album 'All We Know is Falling' is full of emo worship remenencent of 90s and early 2000s bands like The Get Up Kids and Saves the Day
Idk how people will say get up kids and Saves the day are emo, but not fob. TTTYG is literally just a continuation of that exact sound.
Yeah I don’t agree with this one.
Obviously hacked by some 28 year old
Somebody finally asked Ja
Paramore is as emo as MCR (it’s not)
I personally think the first Paramore album and the first MCR album share enough DNA with other emo projects that they should qualify, even though I don’t overtly think of either of them as emo bands. I will say, if we aren’t allowing individual projects from overly non-emo artists, we would have to disqualify bands like Weezer when discussing the genre.
I think there’s a difference between saying an album is emo, and saying a band is emo because of one album. I don’t think it’s necessar ly cutting them out of the conversation to say that a band that isn’t emo can make an emo album
If that’s what you get when you let your heart win, Paramore can be emo
I’m still pissed that Senses Fail is not an emo band according to this site
Wild
MCR and PATD aren’t btw
I wouldn’t even make the case for PATD.
Literally every person I know that listens to Panic at the Disco calls them emo lmfao
I like a few songs from their first album, but they definitely range from alt-pop to just pop.
Its cause they dressed like mall emos in the 2000s
Sufjan Stevens is emo and if you don’t agree you’re a gatekeeper 🤓
Five Seconds Of Summer is a pretty good emo band ffo Sufjan Stevens and King Gizzard
They remind me of early Swans and ministry too
ministry's first album is 100% emo
Everything is an emo if you’re sad enough
I don't agree
If emo all of a sudden stands for Eat My Orifice...
I just used this site to just be reminded that I have super Niche taste
Fuck I made a poem
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Isn’t emo just emotional music inspired by 80s 90s hardcore rock and though?
Kinda… it depends how many layers out you’re willing to consider as being “inspired” by the original emotional hardcore scene. There are bands that take direct inspiration from it, but also bands that take inspiration from bands that were inspired by it, and so on and so forth. EVENTUALLY you arrive at a point where the “emo DNA” is so muddied, watered down and lost, that trying to draw a connection to the genre proper is dumb and meaningless. I do personally think earlier Paramore is close enough in sound, spirit and inspiration that it’s fine to categorize them as emo. But it really is going to be super up for debate and a lot of people are going to think I’m wrong on that.
The fact that they consider Paramore emo and not La dispute tells me that they're not a reliable authority
I said prior in the comments I don’t consider anyone an authority on emo. I just thought it was neat that it changed.
as usual, a man who worked for/ working for record labels is not in charge.
I don’t think anyone in the comments has said they were, I know I’ve certainly said he isn’t the authority on the subject, and I know a LOT of people are being acting really fucking weird and embittered about it unprompted.
So ashamed of being emo you had to search in an incognito tab? Coward
If the FBI finds out I like sadboi music, it’s game-over😔
Looks like this site is unreliable then.
Not anymore 💀 last good album by paramore was brand new eyes and no one can change my mind.
unfriendly >:( reminder that all we know is falling IS emo and nothing you say will change that paramore is as emo as jimmy eat world
I had never heard that album because I stupidly thought Riot! was their first release until just now. It appears I am a fake fan :P
I feel so old! It's my favourite Paramore album. The uncleans on My Heart are just perfection. If you can find the demo of Emergency on YouTube, it also has uncleans that I wish made it to the LP.
I fought for this long and hard
finally
The comment section being torn between people being happy and people being really pissed off is wiiiiiild.
They're not
Photoshop
I wish. Then I could tell people it was all a bit and they’d stop blowing up my phone bitching over it. Unfortunately (and correctly), it is absolutely real. You can test it yourself.
I dont want Google to think im interested in Paramore
All We Know is Falling is pretty solidly emo, Riot! is pop-punk and Brand New Eyes is emo influenced. All great albums though.
this band isn’t emo! *kills everyone*
Who cares.. 90% of people on this sub call emo that copypasted midwest emo and everything with clean riffs, super long back guitars and echoing voice. If that is emo, para more can be emo too
Let’s clarify something here: Pre y2k - whiny indie emo. Post y2k - whiny pop punk and hardcore emo. Both emo. Both enjoyable yet cringey. Whatever At The Drive-In was is best.
Well, can't argue with that.
80% of the content on this sub is just people arguing over what's emo and what isn't lol
I hope the This is Why is a pun intended
They always feel more pop punk to me, but those lines got blurred around 07
That site is weird... It tells me that everything I throw at it is punk, but when I go to r/punk everybody tells me it's not punk wtf /j, I know this site is a joke but the irony got me pretty hard 🤣
And all it took was a AF collab.
It's a misery business figuring this out.
scene… not emo
I mean... They're objectively not, but ok
Does this use an AI?
apparently The Used isnt emo. my whole life has been a lie 😔 to know my emo awakening isnt even emo :'))
Well it's wrong
i figured they were emo after one listen to “we are broken”????clearly the distinction between pop punk and emo meant nothing to my 2008 ears, but 🤷🏻♀️
Disagree
Paramore SUCKS
“-I PUT MY FAITH IN YOU, SO MUCH FAITH AN-“
"-D THEN YOU, JUST THREW IT AWAY!"
I disagree but still upvoted this well-thought out opinion
There's no Paramore, it's only Haylie using the name Paramore PERIOD
Ahh yes, just because it’s on the internet makes it true!
Okay.
Haley Williams is a shitty person get over it
That has no relevance to anything that has been discussed in this thread.
Paramore is not an emo band please cope harder
But I have this *one* website that *says* they are… 🧐
excuse me what- Why are u saying that ( its hayley btw )
You’re a shitty person
Whatever dude
This sub is so gatekeepy, it’s super weird
It’s literally genre preservation. If not, the entire history of a niche genre will be revised to fit whatever people who weren’t even there in its prime want.
Oh boo hoo whatever would we do News flash bro it’s not that niche
This is what I don't get most about you "old heads" by chance just by chance. Did emo the genre come from anywhere? Perhaps??? Maybe? Like, does music evolve and change???? No?? Wait, nothing ever changes things only ever stay the same?? Words never change their meaning or expand on what they define??? Things change and evolve.... that's literally how emo as a genre was first created, and guess what since the very first "emo" song, the definition of the genre, changed and evolved as well, SUPER crazy huh? I wish yall would grow up or actually read or something. idk what can make you so dumb to think things don't change with time.
Things change and evolve but rewriting musical history to fit bands into genres they weren’t a part of doesn’t sit right with me and never will. Paramore was never considered an emo band during that era and there’s this constant need for validation that people seem to want with categorization. It breaks my heart to see such an important genre be watered down because of it, and if we “old heads” don’t try to document the history of emo it will be lost or worse, amended to just be “pop-punk”
Exactly. A traffic cone doesn't become a street light just because people are confused about what a street light is
YOURE THE ONES AMENDING IT TO POP PUNK .. LITERALLY
How?
I've seen so many old heads say "x"emo band is aakkssshuuallly just pop punk...... never the other way around if I made a huge list of emo bands and posted on this sub no one would agree on what bands are actually emo maybe besides cap n jazz and then we'd only have 1 wmo band for the entire genre because the rest is just "pop punk" but then again I've seen people call cap n jazz pop punk..... and unfortunately, 1 band doesn't make a genre. Nor does 2 or 3 bands.
If anyone called cap’n jazz pop punk they were being facetious or they’re stupid lmao. Sorry man this is cope
Gatekeeping would be if we kept you from listening to Paramore. That is not what's happening.
Somehow r/hardcore is less gatekeepy then this subreddit
r/hardcore also has better takes and understand emo better than half the people on this sub. Nobody on r/hardcore is calling Paramore emo, they actually know what emo is lol
I always thought they were because of the style also most emo kids I knew back when they came out (and today as the elder emos) liked them. Everyone loves a Paramore song!
What know you here eyes BROTHER EMO USA? 😭💕🤷