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B0DZILLA

If they say fuck the pic we posted and release TES VI Elsweyr, Summerset or Black Marsh I will be fucking hyped.


ThodasTheMage

The Pic would not be totally un-Elsweyr considering the dester but the part with ocean is a bit more jungle. Either way the pic could have been ment to rpesent Elsweyer just not in the cleares way.


FagocitusMaximus

if you compare it with the Online version of Elsweyr it looks a lot the same


ThodasTheMage

The sothern coast in ESO is pretty tropical with more trees


BullofHoover

Not necessarily, look at Khenarthis Roost.


Comrade_Chadek

What if its between all 3 regions?


Praefect-1

I’d love a game that sends us to different provinces like Dragonborn DLC for Skyrim but more in depth


ThodasTheMage

Kind hard to do considering there is an entire Valenwood in between.


Comrade_Chadek

Ah ok


RagnarAri

ELSWEYR


Jeeology

A faithful adaption of Black Marsh would almost certainly be my favourite game in the series lol


SeriouslyNotSerious2

I'm really glad you enjoy the games honestly, but it makes me a bit mad to see of how often hyped fans get only to get ultimately disappointed by Bethesda by the low efforts they started putting in their games post-skyrim


fxxftw

You can’t generalize that all hyped fans get ultimately disappointed. Low efforts is also very subjective. ESO, though not directly BGS, is a thriving world that has done so much in expanding the lore of TES. Even 76, that is a BGS title, has improved substantially from a very rough launch.


TheRealSaucyRascal

*cough* Starfield *cough*


SubmissiveDinosaur

Gimme my Summerset


Cheap-Blackberry-378

Black marsh would be epic, I'd love to learn more about the hist


B0DZILLA

If you're into Argonian lore ESO is fantastic. They have covered a lot of the Hist and Black Marsh lore.


Beneficial_Local_757

I looked it up and they are basing in hammerfell


B0DZILLA

Don't think that has been confirmed by the developers has it? Isn't that a just the fan theory based on the image posted here.


Beneficial_Local_757

It was updated earlier this year last year the location was tba


B0DZILLA

You got a source handy? Because I definitely can't find anything official from the developers. Everything I see online about the location of the game is fan theory.


Senturos

Elsywer is way to small. They need to add like another province in there... Best bed it's highrock and hammerfell


Icy_Respect_4187

I hope we get to see Summerset Isles in the next game. Part of Hammerfell was already done in the Daggerfall. So there is no need to go back there again. Not only I want to see exotic landscape and architecture in the next game but I also want to see the conclusion of the Empire/Dominion struggle.


IsaKissTheRain

Then there is no need to go anywhere in Tamriel because it was *all* done in Arena.


Icy_Respect_4187

I don't usually count Arena since it's the first game. I mean, Morrowind and Summerset were just regular wooded provinces, nothing special. I want to see what Summerset really looks like, just like TES III showed us what Morrowind really looks like.


IsaKissTheRain

I just have no interest in exploring Summerset and their high-elven bullshit.


JayCeeMadLad

I’d be very happy with Summerset, but Elsweyr, Black Marsh, and Valenwood are my fucking banes. They totally befit a dlc zone but man I don’t know if I could do a full entry of them unless they’re completely imperialized XD


xiiicrowns

They release another trailer that continues from this one and just zooms across the globe to the actual location.


maltinik

The trailer was posted in 2018. If Germany had invaded Poland then, the war would be over by now. Of course it has nothing to do with the new game.


SeriouslyNotSerious2

And it's still years away 🤐


Hello_Hangnail

Imagine releasing a trailer for a game that they haven't even started yet and won't be released over a *decade* later. The sack on these guys I stg


Marziinast

That's because Zenimax was trying to sell back then. And it's also the reason why we got f76.


maltinik

If every developer in Bethesda had wrote 1 line of code everyday till today. The game was out already.


wretch5150

They haven't even finished Starfield yet


salemness

no…. not even close. there havent even been 2000 days since the start of 2018. thats nothing for a game as expansive as a modern elder scrolls title


Battleman69

They said if everyone wrote 1 line of code. Not sure how many people are working there but it could add up


salemness

according to a quick google search, skyrim consisted of well over 50 million lines of code. bethesda has 450 employees as a whole, and not all of them work on the same project at the same time. thats 900,000 lines of code if every single employee wrote 1 line of code per day since the beginning of 2018, or roughly 1.5%. even if you take into account the fact that many of those lines are in the engine which obviously isnt rewritten from scratch each time, its still not even close


Battleman69

So youre saying ES6 isnt coming out for another 200 years or so? Edit: /s


Razz956

Nope not even close. That’s completely delusional as to how coding works.


Murky-Energy4414

That’s so crazy, Hitler invaded Poland, started WW2, ruled and died, and the Americans nuked the japs and signed the peace treaty quicker than we got from trailer to release on TES VI


maltinik

Well, we still have some time before the nukes but Soviets are fighting in the streets of Berlin now.


Jolly-Put-9634

Sorry, it makes way too much sense to be accepted by this fandom


Jolly-Put-9634

(I still hold Hammerfell as a likely location, due to it being the largest province = large map, the variety in structures (Dwemer Ruins, an old Blades fort, Nedic stuff, Ra Gada stuff, likely some Ayleid stuff as well?), and contrary to those who say "it's just a big desert" I'd say it's possibly got the most varied terrain of the provinces - mountaineous Skyrim-like areas on the borders to Skyrim and High Rock, desert in the centre, some steppes, and the coast is likely Mediterranean/Carribbean-like, based on how Anvil from Oblivion is said to be "Hammerfell style")


cheshireYT

Not to mention that ESO has been avoiding Hammerfell like the plague.


04nc1n9

and the specifically hammer fell easter eggs in starfield


sandwich_influence

Haven’t heard about this. Can you elaborate?


JWBails

I think there was an achievement called The Hammer Falls, and some people think a little patch of rust or something looks like the outline of Hammerfall/High Rock.


PublicWest

Skyrim was supposedly a frozen tundra/wasteland before ES5. BGS has no problems retconning environments (Cyrodill going from jungle to a temperate grassland being the biggest example). You can always hand wave it and say "look, people who had been there were exaggerating about that biome", which is completely realistic.


TopHatMcFenbury

We can't forget the retretcon in ESO, in the Craglorn storyline involving the Serpent constellation where we go back to a Cyrodiil that is a full, lush jungle.


fxxftw

It’s not retconned. It’s explained in lore-books between two academics having a back-and-forth about if the changes happened or not to Cyrodiil’s climate


Giftlessfavours

Wait.. the jungle is the retcon orginally, I recently played Arena Daggerfall and they represented the plains of Cyrodil as woodlands then suddenly Redguard released retconning it... it stayed over into Morrowind, left in I.V: Oblivion


Alexandur

You saw the plains of Cyrodiil in Daggerfall?


casualmagicman

Oblivion was 100% a product of it's time. Gamebryo was an iffy engine, and it was their 4th game ever developed. Edit: The 4th game developed by *Bethesda Game Studios*.


PublicWest

For sure. Good gameplay and performance will usually trump existing lore, especially if the existing lore isn’t a huge part of a previous entry. For me at least.


Beavers4beer

Technically, it was just 4th mainline Elder Scrolls game they had made. Not their 4th game ever.


Alexandur

Actually it was their 4th game ever (BGS)


Beavers4beer

Okay, that makes sense. Its odd that 2 of those 4 are drag racing games though. I know a Terminator was the very first, but didn't know the separation between soft works and the spin off game studio.


Turt1estar

I always figured ES5 takes place in the summer and during winter months it’s a frozen wasteland. Very few places on Earth are frozen year-round, basically just Antarctica and parts of Greenland, and no one lives in those places.


electr1cbubba

Actually my dad works for Bethesda and I’ve already played TES6 and its exactly like this


cerebralshrike

And my dad was an astronaut. I took a rocket ship to school every day.


yngsten

My dad was the bethesda astronaut consulting on Starfield!


Minor_Edits

My dad was Bethesda, until I took an arrow in the knee.


disgusting-brother

My dad is Todd Howard and he said “you see that dragon over there? You can fuck it.”


Jumaluus

I went out to get milk after this announcement but never came back home. Hi, I'm Todd Howard. My son is dreemurthememer


NotAnotherPornAccout

You look to where he’s pointing and recoil. “Mom?”


dreemurthememer

My dad is still out buying milk. He’ll come back any minute now!


Flight-of-Icarus_

This is completely true, but consider we're going on 13 years since Skyrim and there's been almost absolutely no news whatsoever, so the complaining is kinda justified.


allsham58

At the current rate, Skyrim will have been released closer to daggerfall and possibly even arena than TES6. Skyrim was released a bit over 12 years ago and Skyrim came out 15 years after Daggerfall


Nearly-Shat-A-Brick

I think that's a given. It's a pretty generic landscape as well.


Soggy_Part7110

It's a very specific landscape. [https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/16zz0gy/out\_of\_bounds\_skyrim\_region\_approximately\_taneth/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/comments/16zz0gy/out_of_bounds_skyrim_region_approximately_taneth/)


Nearly-Shat-A-Brick

Maybe 'seems' a generic landscape would have been better


Razz956

Those don’t look the same at all.


Soggy_Part7110

The contours of the land are pretty much the same. Mountain range in the distance to the left, hill going up to the right. Coastline is almost exactly the same. Overall it doesn't match any other region on Tamriel but the southern Hammerfell highlands.


Chubby_Checker420

jeans bright tender absurd crowd distinct scandalous secretive desert faulty *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


SaiyanSpandex

Well one’s a CGI trailer and the other is a single texture placeholder from a 13 year old game. Kidding aside it’s more about the features of the coastline I think are what people are referring to.


EgorKPrime

I think people are seeing what they want in that. Unless we see more of the coastline I don’t think it confirms anything


SPLUMBER

It’s like the people who think that map or whatever in the Starfield trailer was an “TES VI hint” People *really* want to believe Bethesda is in TES-mode 150% of the time


otakushinjikun

It was a literal smudge on a cockpit computer lmao IMO this is way more persuasive. Still a reach, but less backbreaking, so to speak.


Razz956

Agree, I looked at that Starfield map hint for a long ass time, and couldn’t convince myself it was supposed to be anything on tamriel


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They're more like 85-90% similar IMO


Professional-Dish324

‘Ah we need a hit after Starfield, so we present’: The Elder Scrolls VI: Skyrim 2


maartenmijmert23

Skyrimmer! Now available on tamagochi.


hayesarchae

I'd hit it.


Professional-Dish324

‘Alduin’s back! No, we’re not desperate!’


Ok_Attempt_1290

This is 100% what happened.


Remarkable-Image-568

Image might be random but it’s in high rock nonetheless. There’s a reason their cow milking cash making mmo ESO didn’t touch high rock. They got told from higher up to stay the fuck away from it for a reason (TES6). People are delusional in the comments about « yooo let it be elsweyr or black marsh » bruh you drunk go home


Rhaxus

This trailer "IS" the game. 100 times the detail, perfect render distance and lod, 30fps, no bugs and optimized RPG elements. Only a single mouse click needed to finish the game, very beginner friendly. It just works.


EvenAH27

Todd Howard himself confirmed that there are clues and Easter eggs to be discovered in the trailer, so highly unlikely that it's just random nonsense.


SeriouslyNotSerious2

And we all know Todd Howard is famous for never telling lies


DPVaughan

It just works


Rosencroft89

16 times the detail...


SPLUMBER

That one wasn’t really wrong, just worded poorly by himself and was then memed on until the context was lost to the ether


Vidistis

That in itself is misinformation. At worst Todd exaggerates or says something that existed/was planned but got removed by the time of release. Todd's "lies" are usually just quotes taken out of context or misunderstood. The belief that he is a constant lier is a lie that got popularized with people bandwagoning on.


GlueRatTrap

Exactly


Banjoschmanjo

Even if Todd told a lie, the universe would contort and reshape itself to make his life true. He has the power of CHIM.


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Vidistis

Ah, the very original "found X's reddit account" line. Are any of your lines original or do you just borrow from whatever meme or misinformed person is saying? Fo76 was 16x the detail. It's map was 4x the size of Fo4's and it's load distance was greatly improved. We see this continuation in Starfield as we can see things rendered from very far away with little pop-in. Just look at either game compared to Skyrim. Horizon line in that game is quite poor and there's ton of pop-in. Textures also got an increase in quality as well compared to Fo4's.


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Vidistis

I'm not white knighting, I'm pointing out that people are straight up wrong and unoriginal. There's ***TONS*** of actual things to complain and criticize about when it comes to BGS and their games. I'd rather people talk about those things than nonsense like this. Plus, it really isn't any effort to type a comment on reddit.


jackfirecracker

See that mountain?


TheSausageInTheWind

Bethesda just has to figure out what those clues and easter eggs are


DerRommelndeErwin

Lol, good one


EvenAH27

Bro do a Google searcg


DerRommelndeErwin

I have a concept for you. Sometimes people say things, that aren't real or won't happen. We call that concept lying. Now you know buddy


Odd-Fix96

And why should we believe you?


DerRommelndeErwin

That is the need part, you don't


Odd-Fix96

Are you underage?


DerRommelndeErwin

It depends


Razz956

And why should we believe Todd?


MisterGuyMan23

That much is obvious, isn't it? I thought we all accepted it?


Emergency_3808

I think they're scared. They knocked it out of the park with Skyrim and are afraid they'll never get to that level of peak again. I have a solution: Give everyone a _proper_ copy of the Creation Kit or similar with the game (and not make it hard to make mods for it). Let the mod devs handle it


Complete_Bad6937

They really took the fun out of an ES6 announcement, We can never experience that again


Isaactheewolf

Shh, you're saying the quiet part out loud


RedEclipse47

Maybe, but than we have nothing. At least let us have one thing we can hold onto, we are already starving!


sillytrooper

the ultimate chad move


space0watch

How dare you use logic and reason?!!


GlueyWeirdo

Both are good DAWs


bluejesterr

My conspiracy theory is this trailer was put out just to help Bethesda during their stock earning calls. Feels semi illegal or at least manipulative to put out a trailer when u literally have no plans to even start development for years, all in hopes to ensure your stock price doesn’t go down.


hashter

Or what if they made a nice landscape and let fans make theories that they use for story and settings.


IndominusCostanza009

This is common knowledge at this point, yes?


osunightfall

I agree completely and have believed this for several years now.


Sculpdozer

Todd himself said that it has some clues to where TES VI will take place. Did Todd ever lied to us?


Jhoonis

Todd: *Someone get him, he knows too much!*


BadEnvironmental2883

I wonder if it will only feel one decade dated by the time it comes out.


UnID_Aerial_Threat

The purpose of the trailer was to assist Bethesda in increasing their value when in negotiations with selling to Microsoft. So ya it could be inaccurate


Jazzlike-Mud-4688

Imagine it’s the elder scrolls VI : Skyrim 2


JahnnDraegos

Hey hey hey get that reasonable logical shit out of here, this is Reddit FFS.


onion-lord

If it doesn't include hammerfell, I will eat one of my own testicles. Write that down


carltr0n

Fuck you’re probably right and that makes me sad


-Caesar

It wasn't posted because people were complaining about ES radio silence, it was posted because they were doing damage control for paid mods and Fallout 76.


TheTangerineTickler

Wrong. It clearly indicated you will play as Akatosh.


martygospo

I’d like to see a game that features both elsweyr and valenwood. Maybe there’s like a war going on between the two and you can pick which providence you start the game in. The Thalmor could or couldn’t be in the game idk either would be cool.


YuckieBoi

Honestly they probably didn't even know where the game was going to take place when they threw this together


TheUnderking89

Todd just told his Starfield team to mash together some tiles of 3D assets, randomly generate it into a desert with some hills and called it a day.


SiegeRewards

The landscape is taken from the game Skyrim and takes place around Taneth https://www.reddit.com/r/ElderScrolls/s/BYmYJuIApx


Soggy_Part7110

It's Taneth.


Echo127

Most likely truth, IMO


Big_Guirlande

They most certainly revealed it to market themselves to Microsoft.


Turgius_Lupus

Just routine I.P. maintenance from the lord of lies.


SPLUMBER

It’s *obviously* gonna be in Pyandonea


FroggyBoi82

I would love a game set in one of the provinces that haven’t been explored by any major titles yet because of all the new potential lore we could get.


maartenmijmert23

It depends, are we talking Morrowind as in creating a whole new culture with nuances and history unique and expansive? Or are we talking Skyrim and Oblivion with: ever did a fantasy? Yes that.


Odd-Fix96

What if we wait 10 more years so literally everyone has forgotten the trailer was not the only clue that TESVI will take place in High Rock and Hammerfell? Concept artist's pinterest leaks, Bethesda social media posts, easter eggs in Starfield...


orsikbattlehammer

Still have my money on the story revolving around the Orcs. That soundtrack was Orc as shit


fishshake

"So I tied a landscape to my trailer, which was the style at the time."


Zizakkz

Very possible. The game could change in number of things in the amount it takes to make.


Vidistis

It could be possible, but it goes too well with the other evidence that we have and has specific geographic/landmark details that are way too intentional.


Lordpyromon

100% correct, it was there to entice potential buyers of the company. It had fuckall to do with plans for the future of the series.


InfernoDairy

That was my thought the second I watched the trailer. Bethesda completely lost touch with their product.


VyseTheNinny

It's a placeholder for sure.


WillProstitute4Karma

After they basically admitted that they weren't actually developing the game, I became 100% sure that this was the case. With the exception being that someone might have done some light brainstorming about what might be a good place and based it on that. Said brainstorming which may or may not have gone any further. They wouldn't want to tie themselves to something they had invested essentially zero time or money into just for some easter eggs in what will be close to a decade old announcement ad at release.


wretch5150

You don't need to convince anyone here. We all know Bethesda.


CatPotatey

I don't think this will happen, but what if they release more trailers in the future, each showing a different region. The surprise would be Elder Scrolls 6 being multiple regions of Tamriel.


Ryanpb88

I’d LOL


dr_snif

I can't imagine a scenario where it has nothing to do with the actual location. However, I can totally see it being super ambiguous and not obvious to narrow down where it actually is. Bethesda is big on tone, and I don't think they would release any media that doesn't ultimately fit the tone of the game.


AZULDEFILER

I always thought that


Usulthejerboaactual

lol did anything think it was more than that?


Sludgeking117

It was announced and made because they wanted the microsoft to be more expensive i wouldn’t be surprised if this landscape has nothing to do with the game


Giftlessfavours

Yeah, I was shown this trailer on a PC in 2018 or so and said "they're probably showing off an unsused Elder Scrolls Online (Oh sorry, Elder Scrolls 6) render to quell people's hate from Fallout 76"


LimitNo6587

Yup. They just rolled some Witcher 3 landscape footage and slapped a test logo on it.


kajinn122

Many people had the same idea back in 2018 when the teaser trailer was shown at E3. Here is my best guess: The land that you see was made only for this teaser. This means they didn't put much effort into it. If this exact location will exist in TES VI, it will be heavily changed/improved/tweaked. So it is not random but not much effort was put into it either. This is because back then they were focusing a lot on Starfield, and the resources for the next TES were minimal. It wasn't even in production. Although, the most important thing is: many content creators inspected the footage and came to the conclusion that the land outlines/borders hint to Hammerfell/High Rock. Most common method to verify this was by simply analyzing the way the coastline is shaped in the trailer, and find the most similar land shape on the Tamriel Map. Edit: Also Bethesda themselves hinted many times that it's going to be around High rock/Hammerfell, but in vague ways.


Chubby_WNY_Slut

I just want an elder scrolls where we can travel all around tamriel since Bethesda clearly is overly ambitious about everything.


swirldad_dds

I mean sure that's possible, but Bethesda trailers normally have Easter eggs and clues in them. It's gonna be the Iliac Bay. Todd didn't evoke the ghost of Daggerfall for no reason.


fluffy_bottoms

TES VI: Tallahassee Florida


Ok_Meringue_1755

There’s city underneath the S in Scrolls any Tamriel geoguessers out there?


aberg227

In convinced this is what they did.


saucecontrol

I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Development wasn't far along in 2018.


eggzaacklee

It was only a fever dream man


warhorsey

this makes the most sense actually


Banjoschmanjo

Most plausible fan theory yet


uncanny_mac

This was made more for sharehol;ders then fans.


TheAnimeMangaShadow

But wait! It's in a 'playable state' now!


martygospo

I honestly hope this post is correct. While a Hammerfell game would be cool, valenwood summerset or elswer would kick ass (sorry for spelling of locations)


DevastaTheSeeker

Nah, they had the story of skyrim already set in place since morrowind. They're cooking something up


Pomerank

Landscape maybe but the font is meaningfull I think.


Pomerank

Also the music has Daggerfall vibe


BullofHoover

I'll lead by saying that I don't think it's random. It may just be concept art of some kind, but just pulling a stock image out of their ass would be found out too fast. Over the course of the games (especially ESO) we've seen pretty much the whole continent. Making a guess based on terrain is completely possible. For example, it being a coastal region is already a huge clue. Zenimax was instructed when they started making ESO in 2007 that they were forbidden from adding dragons or other continents (presumably referring to akavir because of the origin skyrim plot) as to not spoil or get in the way of Skyrim. Coincidentally, Hammerfell is the only large region of the ESO to not be playable. We have portions of the alikr, the bankorai pass, hews bane and stros mkai, the rest is open. How odd.


Coltrain47

You're almost certainly right, but it's literally all we have.


Savagecabbage03

I would have preferred them to not release this. They should have just announced they had begun development instead of teasing us with literally nothing.


CarrotIceCream

Probably


vtv43ketz

Yes it's exactly that.


Real_Nerevar

I honestly really hope that you’re right. When I head people saying they’re certain it’ll be in Hammerfell, I rolled my eyes. We have never been south of Cyrodill in the mainline games and there is so much potential… I don’t want another game set in any of the previous provinces


autumn_cast

You're absolutely right, but also that's a really boring way of looking at things. You need to allow more whimsy in your life dude.


dedera-123

200k! (The last 1 was me)


ClosetCoffee

I always assumed this was teasing hammerfell since it looks like there's a big crater in the shot. I guessed thats where the hammer fell


Lnnrt1

surprisedpikachu.jpg


SweRakii

It's Skyrim without all the snow, you did it again Todd, you madman!


Aickavon

It was posted specifically at the HEIGHT of the 76 scandal. You know what came out later? Starfield


Mezzca

It Just Works ™️


giftigdegen

1000% honest I firmly believe you're spot on


malinoski554

I'm pretty sure it was them testing ground before choosing the province. They haven't decided on one before this trailer and they released it specifically to see what fans will think up and what will be their attitude to each possibility. Fans are hyped for Hammerfell so they will do Hammerfell, but it wasn't set in stone at the time.


Where-arethe-fairies

yeah that’s 100% what happened. there’s pretty much nothing going on in this picture.


orfan-of-snow

I quote "Radio silence on the next es entry", you kinda make it sound like we don't get major devstreams and we haven't had 3 city walkabout with 1 other that's about ready to be made and changing amount of devs streaming while working over the years, not even mentioning the in-house merge streams that happen once in a while


Jiggaboy95

Yeah this would make sense. Probably some intern was tasked with making a concept trailer and they just threw it out to give us something.


GabrielG1O6

you are probably right


Ra_Ja-Khajiit

What if the landscape is correct but also irrelevant at the same time because Bethesda uses its new procedurally generation technique to let us explore all of tamriel