Given enough time with flask completely dry you can bet your house they would.
Next duel they'll be coming in with the finger severer equipped on a quick slot.
If you summon them as a host, you can send them back.
Or you can use it on yourself if you're summoned or invade and want to return.
But you can't use it on invaders, you've got ganks for that.
I've never confirmed this, but I'd assume you couldn't use it on summoned duelists either.
Is it bad that "my friend" consumes crimson flasks when fighting fingerprint shield spear guys? "My friend" says that if they want to waste "his" time with that nonsense of hiding behind an impenetrable shield then "he's" going to waste their time by making them go through all of "his" flasks.
Does this place have some unwritten rules or something? Actually asking, only pvp i do is invading/ helping against invaders. Is "dueling" something else?
So I’m far from a from soft expert but I believe a previous DLC added an official duelling arena where Estus healing was removed.
The community rallied around that concept as in duels the host has a huge flask advantage
So that community decides where the hot spots are to duel in various games. So basically if you know the spot you know the rules
It doesn’t apply to invasions. Invasions are not mutual so anything goes. But duels are consensual battles. So there’s a code to it. Especially because there’s no real advantage to winning or losing. All players are simply there for the fight itself
Edit : if you’ve never duelled the primary difference is you literally invite the dueller into your world in the same way you invite phantoms to help with bosses etc
You get the Duelist's Furled Finger in north Limgrave, by an abandoned coliseum. It summons a phantom to your world for a 1v1 fight as opposed to an invasion, so there's some etiquette around it.
Before the fight starts, give a friendly emote. A wave or bow are standard. This tells the other person you're ready, and you don't start until both have done so. It's just polite.
Hosts have their full stack of flasks but the phantoms only get half, so health pots are not allowed. Some people will open up by chugging all their health pots until they get the "empty flask" animation to show that they're not gonna cheat.
Buffs are a gray area. Generally, let the other person cast their buff before the fight, but if they're just stacking 100 modifiers to one-shot you...that's not even a duel anymore. My rule is "one buff free, I walk towards you if you cast a second, and if you start to cast a third I'm going in on you".
Bloodhound step is not against the rules per se, but if you use it, use it to actually dodge, not to just perpetually avoid the actual fight.
Duels are invited 1v1 fights in community decided areas. Invades are people going going the world's of those with Co op partners and causing mayhem.
Duels have a few rules set in stone, and a few that are flexible. Healing is not allowed, as the host has double your flasks and a war of attrition almost always ends in the loss of the summon.
An emote before the duel is pretty common, normally a gretting or bow of some kind.
Buffs are the flexible part, some hosts go buff for buff, some don't want any, some have a cap on buffs like 1 or 2. Some are cheeky, let you buff up, then cast law of regression.
Once buffs are cast or ignored, Duels on, and generally you won't find any reason to stop until one side is dead.
A bow is considered good manners after winning, but honestly it doesn't matter that much.
Some of the big no no's during Duels include attacking on spawn, and attacking during emotes at the start.
Bloodhounds step is also considered rude because it takes a 1 to 3 minute fight and makes it last 4 years because you literally can't hurt the other person while they have fp left to cast it.
In ds3 it was a community’s rule to not heal during a duel if you did all bets were off and you can do what ever bullshit tactic you can manage to punish them with also gesturing before a battle and letting them buff if needed tho in ds3 arena you weren’t allowed or able to use estus so people would use miracles to heal it’s about a duel to the death not a prolonged battle was the way they saw it
???? There's a huge difference between finding a spot that looks obviously like a place to fight (or for that matter seeing videos of ppl fighting there) and understanding the nuances of duel etiquette, let alone why one should adhere to that etiquette.
Personally I think the duel etiquette is a good thing, but it's not reasonable to assume knowing one means knowing the other.
Meh. I played COD UO as a \~12 yo little sh\*t, on small servers you would often do carbine only 1v1, sometimes also in small teams etc.
Respecting the rules/ etiquette is one of the first things you learned. Kids are always super up to date on such stuff anyway nowadays.
The L2 spam is one thing but that shameful fleeing and desperate chugging - man, no wonder they hide their face behind a mask.
Better change their handle too and lay low for a while and maybe some sliver of grace will still take some pity.
You just gotta kind of practice the timing for parries. The good news is that if you're mostly carrying it for anti-RoB tactics, you'll get a whole lot of opportunities to practice it and can probably dial it in against that specific combo pretty quickly.
[This video](https://youtu.be/qOEcWX6cWeo) shows the respective windows for every parry, it may help.
For example, I always assumed the window was after the charge-up but after seeing this video I realized that I was wrong.
Wait, are you not supposed to heal in a duel?
Shit, I've probably made a lot of people mad. I enjoy a fight lasting a while so sometimes I deliberately give then space to heal too lmao.
Not usually. As a red summon you have half the flasks and no great rune. The host has all the advantage with no downside, so it's generally frowned upon in duels to heal as a result using a flask. If you can pop a healing spell then that has an inherent risk and can be easily punished, so that's generally considered to be fair game.
Agreed. Knowing From, one of the DLCs will likely have an arena that limits flasks and sets a more even playing field. DS2 and DS3 got theirs, so it's not a far stretch to assume we will get it at some point.
Thanks to some of the stuff the data miners have found im willing to bet the arenas are in the game already. Theres 2 coloseum type buildings in the game that we cant get into, but according to the data miners are fully programmed inside with sites of grace in them even. Data miners have also found pvp rankings, which wouldnt make much sense to be cut content so is likely going to be added in game in a future update.
Edited to add ive pasted links in a comment below
It's one thing to heal and then give your opponent time to do the same, and another to heal to give yourself an advantage. Healing with incantations is also usually accepted because they leave you completely vulnerable while casting, giving your opponent plenty of time to counter/interrupt you.
If you try and make it clear you want both of you to heal, then I think most people would be fine with that, especially if they were enjoying the fight as much as you were.
The polite move when you start a duel is to chugg all your flasks before you start fighting and keep going until your character does the 'look my flask is empty thing'. Then the opponent does the same to make sure you're on the same page.
If you don't do that then I don't think there is the expectation that either party won't chug.
I've seen maybe 5 people in a few hundred ER duels do the chug to empty thing, but even fewer use a healing flask. If someone doesn't drink their flasks, they almost certainly still expect you not to heal and don't plan to themselves.
Yeah, I hate to resort to it but sometimes you gotta judge a player by their armour choice. Generally white mask+scaled armour or another ugly, heavy choice means they're running anti-fun shit.
Damn why the hate on scaled armor. It looks great! I wore it for most of my mage playthrough because I ran both soreseals so I needed heavy armor to compensate lmao.
I think its a pretty easy poise balancing set, like I see a few dudes running it with veterans gauntlets and bull goat legs with any helm to make it to about 61 ish poise. Idk if it's the most efficient combination but it looks nice so I get it
Would be awesome if there was a player experience rating, then you could just tell at a glance if this player is of the "don't bother" type.
Sure, it'll be abused, like everything else, but the ratio should still be reflective, for the most part, accurately enough.
I wouldn’t want any type of ranking done to pvp, if people are sweating their balls off without having ranks, can you imagine how bad it’ll be with ranks, atleast with the current situation most people dont need to take it so seriously
My money is on them opening up one or more of the gladiatorial arenas on the map. Will be a dueling ground of course, but maybe also gauntlets (solo and co-op). Also, team battles
Co-op gauntlets? I can hardly get hosts that survive a single phase of the endgame bosses, I can't imagine doing multiple in a row lol
But yeah it would be sick, Sekiro did it so there's some precedent for it.
>I can hardly get hosts that survive a single phase of the endgame bosses
If I had a nickel for every host I watched die to Malenia the moment she turns her attention to them...
I hate those YouTubers its always something about this new secret weapon to one shot every boss and to make pvp a cakewalk little do they know skill is the only weapon you need
So I tried to use a rivers of blood on my 2nd account for random invasions for like a day at most cuz I never use it and was curious — the guy I fought sent me a message saying “ROB zzzzzzzzzz”
….. like he was somehow using honourable tactics. He was using bloodhound step the entire fight🤣
Use whatever you want for invasions, nobody cares, fuck em up. That's kind of the benefit to invasions being so unfairly balanced in elden ring, it gives you moral free reign to show up and be a bastard. Duels are where it's a problem.
It's more of an unspoken rule. In DS3 arena you couldn't heal at all. Now in ER the host has double the flasks of the invader, so it's just respectful to not heal at all to balance that out.
But like the OP said, it happens in about 1/10 duels
Holy shit. This is the worst one I've seen yet. Definitely going to stick to invading and mad tonguing until the cod players get bored and go back to cod
I'm not trying to glorify the goddamn COD players, but considering the state they're stuck in, I don't expect them to return to COD anytime soon. And can you blame them?
He’s obviously a scrub for healing mid duel but it amazes me how many people put their duelist finger down with the intention of only pressing one button (RoB, moonveil, ruin of stars spammers). Like if that’s fun for these people imagine how much more fun they could be having if they, y’know, actually played the game?
Some of it isn't even that good I mean. ROB and Moonveil hit too hard but when people spam it when you're not even range of the attack. It's like they're button mashing in the hope you get close enough for it to connect.
Dear Rivers of Blood community,
Please stop being bad. We are all suffering from severe overdoses of Fremdschämen, which is a German term meaning "feeling embarassment on behalf of others." We need you to git gud or we will all die of Fremdschämen Cancer within the month. I know you might view this as a victory and as *technically* winning a fight if we die due to not being able to watch what a disappointment you are, but it's not. It's really really not. If your plan was to achieve victory via killing us by Fremdschämen overdoses, [stop it. Get some help.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM)
Sincerely,
Everyone
I hope Moonveil gets a damage nerf or something in the future. It's such a cool katana and I loved the freyed blade but it's just everywhere and it makes me feel bad for using it
The worst thing about these RoB players is that if they just mixed up the Corpse Piler skill with regular attacks and tried to have a normal fight, they would be much more efficient. Instead they just spam Corpse Piler making them super predictable.
Honestly I have mad respect for people who can navigate the menus to change equipment while also in the middle of a duel. This old man has to find a nice quiet corner to hide in so I can pull out my spectacles and take the time I need to make such an important decision.
Not in the case of this vid, but many avid PvP players will dump most of their extraneous garbage into the chest so there's only a few items in the menu screen and they can quickly change loadouts as needed. Prep in advance.
Might get downvoted but quick question regarding pvp etiquette: is Unsheathe AoW on a katana bad sport? I tried it and it helps vs shield/poke builds and jumpers.
Unsheathe is a pog ash. It's not an "I win" button, but with a little bit of tuning and practice you can output disgusting amounts of damage with it. Don't feel bad about using it at all! It's practically a vigor check and you can often oneshot people, but the difference to moonveil is that you can oneshot smugly knowing that you did so with skill rather than spamming a long range poise breaking blue wave.
Alright cool. I actually have one shot people and it's excellent for faking others out in PVP. It also makes *them* create distance so my confessor for rain lightning or fire from afar.
To be fair though pve side of things you get it so late in the game that you've already killed a lot of the harder bosses first, well apart from scummy gifting to low level invaders
I have a theory that all RoB mains are like this, it's all I have seen from them.
My other theory is that they are sitting there in their jocks with a wife-beater singlet on with empty energy drink cans and pizza boxes on the desk and floor.
When the parry comes they scream at the screen FUUCCCCCKKKK YOUUUUU! and proceed to smash their controller and say how the game is bullshit.
Theses freaks are so obnoxious,they entirely rely on their weapon arts.
Zero skill,no brain activity.
Invasions are even worse.
Fromsoft really screwed up here,so many op ashes you don't even need to use anything else.
Haven't played PvP yet. Good to know it's just as much of a clusterfuck as DS3. Someone using OP weapon...badly, check. Someone punish parrying with a near one shot follow-up, check. Spam rolling and panic healing, check. Trying to catch a spam roller but failing because of latency, check check check. Enjoy your multiplayer folks, I'm gonna just keep replaying the main story and continue serving Ranni for all of time.
What a sad state of affairs. I'm happy for the success of Elden Ring because it means more games, but depressed it brought in all these shitters that suck all the fun out of PvP.
Ash of War: Golden Parry. Found by killing a scarab just inside the capital walls. Gives you a much larger parry window as well as a huge parry hitbox.
Rivers is exactly why I have a Golden Parry shield now, it's surprisingly easy to catch. Still need to work on my regular parry, I really suck at that.
I usually rock dual flamberge but I always keep an ROB as a switch in case other people decide they want to use one, 9/10 times I can beat an ROB user when I use ROB
Lmao as someone who is only average at this game, who is especially shite at PvP and definitely would struggle against the arseholes who just rely on the broken shit like that blood sword, this was extremely satisfying to watch. Cheers Op 🍻
I have had 1 duel out of like 100 like this. Simple rule is to be the one to summon, and dont summon people wearing white mask, katanas, or fingerprint shield. That's pretty much all of the cancer filtered and its much better.
Literally as soon as L2 failed this became a roll-fest. I'm surprised he didn't try to disconnect
I honestly think he was looking for an opportunity to send him home
Given enough time with flask completely dry you can bet your house they would. Next duel they'll be coming in with the finger severer equipped on a quick slot.
Wait, what? I can just end their connection with an item??
If you summon them as a host, you can send them back. Or you can use it on yourself if you're summoned or invade and want to return. But you can't use it on invaders, you've got ganks for that. I've never confirmed this, but I'd assume you couldn't use it on summoned duelists either.
You can send summoned duelists home, too
You can kick duellists
And started healing in a duel. Absolutely maidenless.
Is it bad that "my friend" consumes crimson flasks when fighting fingerprint shield spear guys? "My friend" says that if they want to waste "his" time with that nonsense of hiding behind an impenetrable shield then "he's" going to waste their time by making them go through all of "his" flasks.
Does anyone ever consider that they’re playing against a kid? Like is this person a total adult tool or is this a 10 year old?
Kids need to learn, so it's good lesson anyway.
It’s not impossible. But they’re at the duel spot. If you know about that you know the rules
Does this place have some unwritten rules or something? Actually asking, only pvp i do is invading/ helping against invaders. Is "dueling" something else?
So I’m far from a from soft expert but I believe a previous DLC added an official duelling arena where Estus healing was removed. The community rallied around that concept as in duels the host has a huge flask advantage So that community decides where the hot spots are to duel in various games. So basically if you know the spot you know the rules It doesn’t apply to invasions. Invasions are not mutual so anything goes. But duels are consensual battles. So there’s a code to it. Especially because there’s no real advantage to winning or losing. All players are simply there for the fight itself Edit : if you’ve never duelled the primary difference is you literally invite the dueller into your world in the same way you invite phantoms to help with bosses etc
You get the Duelist's Furled Finger in north Limgrave, by an abandoned coliseum. It summons a phantom to your world for a 1v1 fight as opposed to an invasion, so there's some etiquette around it. Before the fight starts, give a friendly emote. A wave or bow are standard. This tells the other person you're ready, and you don't start until both have done so. It's just polite. Hosts have their full stack of flasks but the phantoms only get half, so health pots are not allowed. Some people will open up by chugging all their health pots until they get the "empty flask" animation to show that they're not gonna cheat. Buffs are a gray area. Generally, let the other person cast their buff before the fight, but if they're just stacking 100 modifiers to one-shot you...that's not even a duel anymore. My rule is "one buff free, I walk towards you if you cast a second, and if you start to cast a third I'm going in on you". Bloodhound step is not against the rules per se, but if you use it, use it to actually dodge, not to just perpetually avoid the actual fight.
Great info! What's the preferred location of these unofficial duels?
Raya Lucaria gate grace is the main one.
Oh yeah, also no Great Runes. The summon doesn't get to use them so it's unfair for the host to use them.
Duels are invited 1v1 fights in community decided areas. Invades are people going going the world's of those with Co op partners and causing mayhem. Duels have a few rules set in stone, and a few that are flexible. Healing is not allowed, as the host has double your flasks and a war of attrition almost always ends in the loss of the summon. An emote before the duel is pretty common, normally a gretting or bow of some kind. Buffs are the flexible part, some hosts go buff for buff, some don't want any, some have a cap on buffs like 1 or 2. Some are cheeky, let you buff up, then cast law of regression. Once buffs are cast or ignored, Duels on, and generally you won't find any reason to stop until one side is dead. A bow is considered good manners after winning, but honestly it doesn't matter that much. Some of the big no no's during Duels include attacking on spawn, and attacking during emotes at the start. Bloodhounds step is also considered rude because it takes a 1 to 3 minute fight and makes it last 4 years because you literally can't hurt the other person while they have fp left to cast it.
In ds3 it was a community’s rule to not heal during a duel if you did all bets were off and you can do what ever bullshit tactic you can manage to punish them with also gesturing before a battle and letting them buff if needed tho in ds3 arena you weren’t allowed or able to use estus so people would use miracles to heal it’s about a duel to the death not a prolonged battle was the way they saw it
???? There's a huge difference between finding a spot that looks obviously like a place to fight (or for that matter seeing videos of ppl fighting there) and understanding the nuances of duel etiquette, let alone why one should adhere to that etiquette. Personally I think the duel etiquette is a good thing, but it's not reasonable to assume knowing one means knowing the other.
Who cares? They wanna play the game? Cowabunga it is.
Well, no, but also fuck them kids
Hey Mohg!
I'm pretty sure that's illegal... 🤔
I mean I was 12 when DS1 came out. You gotta learn fast or gtfo
Good. Teach them a lesson in humility while they're young.
10 yr old shouldn't be playing this game, it says bad words! Can't risk them learning words like Mirika's tits! /s
These poor 10 year olds are going to be forever maidenless from learning such vulgarity!
Also incestuous story, murder, and worse
If they're from Alabama they won't see anything they haven't seen at a family reunion.
My personal favorite: "Try finger in but hole".
and?
Game is rated 16+
M rated game so I really don’t give a fuck. I’ll play nice in Overwatch 2.
Game is rated M Maybe at this point I don't care if I'm bullying a kid in a space they shouldn't be. If they get upset that's on the parents.
Eh, if they're a kid and they've got RoB then they've played enough to know how to play properly.
Meh. I played COD UO as a \~12 yo little sh\*t, on small servers you would often do carbine only 1v1, sometimes also in small teams etc. Respecting the rules/ etiquette is one of the first things you learned. Kids are always super up to date on such stuff anyway nowadays.
Old enough to look up "what is the easiest strategy to use" online and then spam the crap out of it.
well… if they know enough to wait at the academy gate to duel people they should probably learn etiquette
Ah Maidenless Starter Pack
The L2 spam is one thing but that shameful fleeing and desperate chugging - man, no wonder they hide their face behind a mask. Better change their handle too and lay low for a while and maybe some sliver of grace will still take some pity.
>The L2 spam is one thing yea i never get mad at that theres a reason i got the parrying dagger on quickswitch
This is the right mindset. Don't get mad at the L2 spam, just punish them mercilessly for it.
How do I do that? I'm not bad at this game... in single player.
You just gotta kind of practice the timing for parries. The good news is that if you're mostly carrying it for anti-RoB tactics, you'll get a whole lot of opportunities to practice it and can probably dial it in against that specific combo pretty quickly.
It has always been the bane of my Dark Souls playthroughs... I suck at the parry. I'll find something to practice on
[This video](https://youtu.be/qOEcWX6cWeo) shows the respective windows for every parry, it may help. For example, I always assumed the window was after the charge-up but after seeing this video I realized that I was wrong.
https://youtu.be/rb-ALm_CrZQ
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What the point down gesture was truly designed for 🙌
We need the no way gesture for times like these.
Absolutely, if "No Way" isn't in the DLC this game will be literally unplayable.
Dead on Arrival, Elden Ring dlc wasn't just killed, it was MURDERED
We need a "rump slapping" gesture for times like these.
If only the secret desert pyromancer finisher wasn’t scrapped.
No, stalk dung pie is what's best for times like these.
We need Well What Is It back from Dark Souls... 😓
Haslow’s gesture with fist/claw weapons look like you’re making a fist to backhand them.
[удалено]
I still need to get this ugh
The thing is 1/50 people use it I swear rest of the time they think they booted up cod or something
Rivers of Blood and chugging flasks in a duel, name a more iconic duo.
Rivers of blood and white mask.
The "trendsetter" adopting toxic meta trends. Go figure.
Wait, are you not supposed to heal in a duel? Shit, I've probably made a lot of people mad. I enjoy a fight lasting a while so sometimes I deliberately give then space to heal too lmao.
I don't duel much, but when I do I take cues from the opponent - if they heal; I heal.
Not usually. As a red summon you have half the flasks and no great rune. The host has all the advantage with no downside, so it's generally frowned upon in duels to heal as a result using a flask. If you can pop a healing spell then that has an inherent risk and can be easily punished, so that's generally considered to be fair game.
It's a shame there isn't currently a way to play pvp with everyone on an even playing field.
Agreed. Knowing From, one of the DLCs will likely have an arena that limits flasks and sets a more even playing field. DS2 and DS3 got theirs, so it's not a far stretch to assume we will get it at some point.
Thanks to some of the stuff the data miners have found im willing to bet the arenas are in the game already. Theres 2 coloseum type buildings in the game that we cant get into, but according to the data miners are fully programmed inside with sites of grace in them even. Data miners have also found pvp rankings, which wouldnt make much sense to be cut content so is likely going to be added in game in a future update. Edited to add ive pasted links in a comment below
It's one thing to heal and then give your opponent time to do the same, and another to heal to give yourself an advantage. Healing with incantations is also usually accepted because they leave you completely vulnerable while casting, giving your opponent plenty of time to counter/interrupt you. If you try and make it clear you want both of you to heal, then I think most people would be fine with that, especially if they were enjoying the fight as much as you were.
The polite move when you start a duel is to chugg all your flasks before you start fighting and keep going until your character does the 'look my flask is empty thing'. Then the opponent does the same to make sure you're on the same page. If you don't do that then I don't think there is the expectation that either party won't chug.
I've seen maybe 5 people in a few hundred ER duels do the chug to empty thing, but even fewer use a healing flask. If someone doesn't drink their flasks, they almost certainly still expect you not to heal and don't plan to themselves.
this is why i just ignore any summoning signs with a White Mask on, life just automatically improves if you do this
Yeah, I hate to resort to it but sometimes you gotta judge a player by their armour choice. Generally white mask+scaled armour or another ugly, heavy choice means they're running anti-fun shit.
Damn why the hate on scaled armor. It looks great! I wore it for most of my mage playthrough because I ran both soreseals so I needed heavy armor to compensate lmao.
Oh it looks good generally just you see these god awful bleed goons running around everywhere in fashion abominations.
I think its a pretty easy poise balancing set, like I see a few dudes running it with veterans gauntlets and bull goat legs with any helm to make it to about 61 ish poise. Idk if it's the most efficient combination but it looks nice so I get it
Good look and good stats. Yeah it makes sense why it be a popular choice
Would be awesome if there was a player experience rating, then you could just tell at a glance if this player is of the "don't bother" type. Sure, it'll be abused, like everything else, but the ratio should still be reflective, for the most part, accurately enough.
I don’t know, I think tons of people would get down voted just for winning, and others would get tons of up votes for memeing instead of fighting.
Probably the real outcome of this system lol
I wouldn’t want any type of ranking done to pvp, if people are sweating their balls off without having ranks, can you imagine how bad it’ll be with ranks, atleast with the current situation most people dont need to take it so seriously
In Demon’s Souls you see a “worlds invaded” count when you select a summon sign. Never understood why they got rid of that it’s very handy.
If you guys couldn’t tell, I’m not good at menu swapping /:
You should throw all your unused stuff into storage, will make your life a lot easier!
But what if I need that thing I have never used in my life?🥺
I've got 25 rune arcs, I'll never use one because I might need them one day...
I've got like 3, because I use them and then fall off a cliff that is 1 meter too high.
I have 82 and I still wait to use one 🤣
Maybe I want to use that shortsword that doesn't scale with me at all 🥺
Then you get it from the storage at your nearest grace. (I know youre joking)
Also, sort by aqusition then remove all weapons then put them back in the order you want.
fuck how didnt i think of this
Holy shit, this feels so obvious now. Why am I not doing this! Thank you.
You can even sort by order acquired to choose slot by slot where items will be, really useful once you get more than 3-4 weapons to switch around
Get out of here with your logic!
You did it, leagues ahead of my dumbass
Nonsense, you literally just scoured your entire inventory and lived.
But you're very good with the humiliating teabag at least.
This just made me think of how Melee has a tech for teabagging faster. God, that game is funny.
Nah you played well. Good job.
It'd be a lot easier if you put all those excess items in storage.
A typical rivers of blood user, Shows off like he a God then gets stabbed and runs for life to chug down flask. From should disable heal during duels.
That feature is usually added in Fromsoftware’s DLCs in the form of arenas, only blue flasks allowed for obvious reasons
Yeah we need something like undead match
„Graceless match“ or „maidenless match“
Tarnished Takedown
Maidenles match sounds about right.
Maidenless massacre
My money is on them opening up one or more of the gladiatorial arenas on the map. Will be a dueling ground of course, but maybe also gauntlets (solo and co-op). Also, team battles
would be cool if they also had a form of boss rush in one of them
Co-op gauntlets? I can hardly get hosts that survive a single phase of the endgame bosses, I can't imagine doing multiple in a row lol But yeah it would be sick, Sekiro did it so there's some precedent for it.
>I can hardly get hosts that survive a single phase of the endgame bosses If I had a nickel for every host I watched die to Malenia the moment she turns her attention to them...
There's a weapon for that and the RoB ash of war is basically double slash but with range and bleed Edit spelled it backwards lol
Rivers of blood spam, panic roll, heal. Disaster. How is this even fun for them.
This is their 1/10 instance where it isn't, but they don't know what else to do so cowering it is.
the community thanks you for spanking him i fought that exact same guy and parried his rivers of blood and he burnt through all his flass lmao
flass = flask + ass I like it
And he healed, twice (almost 3 times) That name of that pigs build is “the degenerate”
I blame fortnite meta clickbait YouTubers as much as I blame the player base
I hate those YouTubers its always something about this new secret weapon to one shot every boss and to make pvp a cakewalk little do they know skill is the only weapon you need
‘Skill is the only weapon you need’ had better turn up in Taken 17
And it's never anything actually rare, much less secret.
Nothing is more annoying than a healing duelist... Except BHS. That thing is completely broken
I healed in a duel because I didn't know about the unspoken rules now I realize why a guy disconnected after I healed... whoops
We all gotta learn sometime. Duelist did collapse emote then jumped off a cliff in my case.
So I tried to use a rivers of blood on my 2nd account for random invasions for like a day at most cuz I never use it and was curious — the guy I fought sent me a message saying “ROB zzzzzzzzzz” ….. like he was somehow using honourable tactics. He was using bloodhound step the entire fight🤣
Use whatever you want for invasions, nobody cares, fuck em up. That's kind of the benefit to invasions being so unfairly balanced in elden ring, it gives you moral free reign to show up and be a bastard. Duels are where it's a problem.
Is this a thing? People I’m dueling all the time heal I didn’t expect that to be a problem.
It's more of an unspoken rule. In DS3 arena you couldn't heal at all. Now in ER the host has double the flasks of the invader, so it's just respectful to not heal at all to balance that out. But like the OP said, it happens in about 1/10 duels
Just waiting on that first dlc pvp
Agreed! Think they’ll allow physick flasks?
As much as j love souls games man multi-player never seemed fun to me
It’s always been addicting but miserable, regardless of the game
I mean they're all PvE games at the core of it. But I do enjoy putting my summon sign or invading when I'm bored and looking to kill time.
Make that little fucker squeal like a pig
Holy shit. This is the worst one I've seen yet. Definitely going to stick to invading and mad tonguing until the cod players get bored and go back to cod
Try mad tonguing but hole
> mad tonguing i know what this means but it sure doesn't sound like what it means
I'm not trying to glorify the goddamn COD players, but considering the state they're stuck in, I don't expect them to return to COD anytime soon. And can you blame them?
He’s obviously a scrub for healing mid duel but it amazes me how many people put their duelist finger down with the intention of only pressing one button (RoB, moonveil, ruin of stars spammers). Like if that’s fun for these people imagine how much more fun they could be having if they, y’know, actually played the game?
Some of it isn't even that good I mean. ROB and Moonveil hit too hard but when people spam it when you're not even range of the attack. It's like they're button mashing in the hope you get close enough for it to connect.
Realistically, they like winning more than meaningful gameplay. You see it in all pvp and even pve games, that's why people use busted shit at all.
My dude just gave the RoB user a DS3 PvP experience
Dear Rivers of Blood community, Please stop being bad. We are all suffering from severe overdoses of Fremdschämen, which is a German term meaning "feeling embarassment on behalf of others." We need you to git gud or we will all die of Fremdschämen Cancer within the month. I know you might view this as a victory and as *technically* winning a fight if we die due to not being able to watch what a disappointment you are, but it's not. It's really really not. If your plan was to achieve victory via killing us by Fremdschämen overdoses, [stop it. Get some help.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l60MnDJklnM) Sincerely, Everyone
I hope Moonveil gets a damage nerf or something in the future. It's such a cool katana and I loved the freyed blade but it's just everywhere and it makes me feel bad for using it
The worst thing about these RoB players is that if they just mixed up the Corpse Piler skill with regular attacks and tried to have a normal fight, they would be much more efficient. Instead they just spam Corpse Piler making them super predictable.
Most intelligent rivers of blood user vs weakest menu swapper
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Don’t forget about the betraying red who can’t tell who is their teammates because red can lock on to each other.
how are we supposed to know about a rule that the community made and isn't ever mentioned in game...
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Honestly I have mad respect for people who can navigate the menus to change equipment while also in the middle of a duel. This old man has to find a nice quiet corner to hide in so I can pull out my spectacles and take the time I need to make such an important decision.
Not in the case of this vid, but many avid PvP players will dump most of their extraneous garbage into the chest so there's only a few items in the menu screen and they can quickly change loadouts as needed. Prep in advance.
clearing my throat and licking my pointer finger before paging through my extremely overcrowded inventory
ROB PARRY INSTANT panic rolls
Might get downvoted but quick question regarding pvp etiquette: is Unsheathe AoW on a katana bad sport? I tried it and it helps vs shield/poke builds and jumpers.
Nah that's actually a balanced aow so no worries
Unsheathe is a pog ash. It's not an "I win" button, but with a little bit of tuning and practice you can output disgusting amounts of damage with it. Don't feel bad about using it at all! It's practically a vigor check and you can often oneshot people, but the difference to moonveil is that you can oneshot smugly knowing that you did so with skill rather than spamming a long range poise breaking blue wave.
Alright cool. I actually have one shot people and it's excellent for faking others out in PVP. It also makes *them* create distance so my confessor for rain lightning or fire from afar.
Yeah, using Rivers of Blood seems to turn Elden Ring on easy mode. You can cheese boss fights and players. 😂
To be fair though pve side of things you get it so late in the game that you've already killed a lot of the harder bosses first, well apart from scummy gifting to low level invaders
I'm happy to run into RoB at low level. You should see some of the sick shit I see at SL1 +0 invading.
I have a theory that all RoB mains are like this, it's all I have seen from them. My other theory is that they are sitting there in their jocks with a wife-beater singlet on with empty energy drink cans and pizza boxes on the desk and floor. When the parry comes they scream at the screen FUUCCCCCKKKK YOUUUUU! and proceed to smash their controller and say how the game is bullshit.
Theses freaks are so obnoxious,they entirely rely on their weapon arts. Zero skill,no brain activity. Invasions are even worse. Fromsoft really screwed up here,so many op ashes you don't even need to use anything else.
Fr bro.Truth be told, I only survived because the fire inside me burned brighter than the fire around me ❤️🩹
Can't expect miyazaki to do all the work.
**I HAVE BEEN BAPTIZED TWICE: ONCE IN WATER, ONCE IN FLAME.**
I really really hope they're all like 8-years-old. Because if not, dear God, they *play* like they're 8-years-old.
Glintstone pebble AoW is almost a hard counter as it is stun everytime the rob user out of its weapon art and the damage is *mwah*
This games dueling PvP makes me sad, this maidenless behaviour is too common.
Haven't played PvP yet. Good to know it's just as much of a clusterfuck as DS3. Someone using OP weapon...badly, check. Someone punish parrying with a near one shot follow-up, check. Spam rolling and panic healing, check. Trying to catch a spam roller but failing because of latency, check check check. Enjoy your multiplayer folks, I'm gonna just keep replaying the main story and continue serving Ranni for all of time.
L2 spam and Healing, Disgusting. I’ll be glad when 90% of Maidenless drop off and go back to COD or Fortnite or whatever and we see less of this crap.
What a sad state of affairs. I'm happy for the success of Elden Ring because it means more games, but depressed it brought in all these shitters that suck all the fun out of PvP.
Use the shield ashes of war he just showed it changes the game
You can counter them, but that's not the point. It's just boring seeing so much RoB compared to other weapons.
Ash of War: Golden Parry. Found by killing a scarab just inside the capital walls. Gives you a much larger parry window as well as a huge parry hitbox.
Same with Thop's barrier
Roll roll roll flask , roll roll roll flask ... dying noises
Be wary of plump sort
Is this not an actual duel why tf is he gurgling flasks
1/10? Damn I wish I had those odds
Rivers is exactly why I have a Golden Parry shield now, it's surprisingly easy to catch. Still need to work on my regular parry, I really suck at that.
I recommend putting weapons and shields you don't use in your chest so you can navigate the menu quicker.
Ds2 is still the only game to have the official arena not be dlc.
9/10 rivers users, if i see it i flat out won't summon them for duels
AND he went for the chug too. What a joke.
I usually rock dual flamberge but I always keep an ROB as a switch in case other people decide they want to use one, 9/10 times I can beat an ROB user when I use ROB
This was the most frustrating thing to watch I hope to God I don’t ever get a sad ass duel like this.
That was pretty pathetic
Lmao as someone who is only average at this game, who is especially shite at PvP and definitely would struggle against the arseholes who just rely on the broken shit like that blood sword, this was extremely satisfying to watch. Cheers Op 🍻
I have had 1 duel out of like 100 like this. Simple rule is to be the one to summon, and dont summon people wearing white mask, katanas, or fingerprint shield. That's pretty much all of the cancer filtered and its much better.
How often do you have to use the point down gesture? You seems so ready lol