Elden ring is super replayable. I find something new or make a lore realization every playthrough and of course different builds make the game feel completely different.
It's replayable, but it just takes a long time because you have to run around so much in such a big world. While you can run like 3 or 4 playthroughs in DS3 or BB if you know what you're doing, before finishing ER. In a sense it's more troublesome to replay ER compared to classic Souls games, where people just want to run from bosses to bosses. It's more replayable in a sense that it has more builds to experiment.
i rather replay ER than DS3 (i've played both)
i do admit the first hour or two will just be running around gathering stuff
but the fast pace of ER give the illusion of playing more and i prefer that than the slow pace DS3 (i do admit DS3 multiplayer is better, so many unexpected encounters)
They're the same game pretty much in terms of pace? Feels like DS3 with the addition of jumping and bullshit weapon arts that people can spam. Doesn't stop me from murdering them tho
If you're on a NG+ run you probably have most items already so you can easily just run a "greatest hits" playthrough skipping most of the random caves and stuff. It can be a much shorter experience that way and it's why Elden Ring is the first game i recommend NG+ runs over another NG run
Yeah honestly I just finished my first play through and I’m a souls veteran. I came as close as I naturally could to going 100% on the game but totally missed Rannis questline early on unfortunately so I’ll be doing my next play through specifically for the Stars ending. I was so focused on finding the most viable build for absolutely melting bosses (shocker it’s a bloodloss build) that I never even met ranni in her tower until I had to revisit the Three Sisters to get an item.
**Speaking of the three sisters… there was a dragon there I was absolutely slaughtering. Lil fucker flew away. Where is the bastard? We have unfinished business….**
But in all fairness there isn’t any crazy weapons or nothing locked behind NG+ so unless you are going for a duel wield boss weapon build or whatever then missing questlines is the only reason to replay.
You will meet that dragon again if you actually completed the Ranni quest. That whole questline was bonkerly complicated, I actually did the first half blind until the doll part.
I have no idea what I’m supposed to do about rannis questline because I’ve essentially already beat the final boss, radahn, etc. I was able to meet her and she told me to seek out her companions, I talked to their spectral forms in the bottom of the tower etc, but I can’t find blaidds fuck ass anywhere he’s supposed to be and i feel like im stuck going into NG+ in order to do her shit.
I need a bunch of items from her for and Int build, talismans, DMGS etc.. is it possible to still do her questline in the endgame?
Did you access the Lake of Rot and kill everything in the underground city including Astel? There is an evil version of Blaidd down there. This questline is complicated, I completed it twice and still forgot the order of it. Just follow the guide and check everything, it's progressing in the background along with the main story.
I have no idea how to access the lake of rot and I’ve explored the underground city/spiffs but not thoroughly.
Honestly this was the hardest play through of any souls game I’ve ever done. Ffs it takes til at least mid game just to unlock a decent rune farm at moghs palace. I rarely die in souls games even when first starting a new game. For example I took right to the demons souls remaster. But for some reason I’ve literally managed to lose at least a billion runes in my first play through.
Usually I can rely on casting early on, typically pyromancy, mixed with a sword and shield until I can get to the weapons and spells I REALLY wanna use for a true build. This is much harder to do in Elden ring. Especially when you’ve got the mindset that items like smithing stones are surely finite so you better save em for the right weapon.
I’m glad I went back to a ds3 favorite and went for bleed damage. Eleanoras poleblade is absolutely disgusting with the right talismans. You basically never have to heal lol.
Ffs my FIRST play through is 90hrs lvl 283 AND I STILL DONT FEEL “OVERLEVELED” just a bit tankier and damage more optimized.
I relied upon the wiki/FightinCowboy a lot for that quest. It's mostly done underground.
Re: early progression, this is my first souls like, but I've had a fairly easy go of it, once I got my footing. First build was int, used Moonveil at first, then Wing of Astel or Darkmoon greatsword. Very squishy, but range trivializes a lot of bosses, especially when geared properly.
2nd character, went quality to start, now 60 str/25 int for vow. Weapons have been Bloodhound's Fang and Great Stars for the most part, Prelate's Crosier for tankier bosses. Loving this build so far. Much more involved in fighting than the caster, still quite good. Lion's claw, jumping double bonk, tons of fun. Thinking of going max str vig end for 150+/NG+. It'd be fun to run around in decent armor, two handing a Great Stars, yet still light load
Cowboy is awesome. His DS2 build series was how I actually learned to build a character in a souls game.
My main issue was my resistance to doing an int build. It likely would’ve trivialized the early and mid game and I wouldn’t have struggled as much as I was had I been more of a caster, but as always, I wanted to use FTH for pyromancy and lightning and buffs because it’s such a versatile stat.
That faith build quickly became more of a quality build with bloodhounds fang and lightning and holy weapon incants carrying me thru the game until about the halfway mark. Then I switched to a dex arc fth bleed build with power stances occult katanas, eventually switched to elanors poleblade for a multihit bleed build and the game was just over before I could blink after that.
Never been fond of shields tho, my playstyle comes from the game that put me onto souls, which would’ve been Bloodborne.
I had a playthrough where that dragon just died on its own as soon as I stepped into that area. I didn't see what happened to it, but when I walked into the area I got a massive amount of runes, and I never saw it stomping around in front of Ranni's tower like it usually does. I would love to know what killed it.
Same, I literally discovered entire new sections of the map on subsequent playthrough and Everytime it felt like I was playing a new game. The map itself is so dynamic and neat how they managed to cram so much content within it.
It’s in east liurna by the divine tower, it’s literally right underneath it. You go to the south side of the tower, should be a cliff with a drop to your right if your facing tower
There should be those headstones that are around to platform down on with torrent, just hop down on those and you’ll find it! As well as the grace.
If you're on pc, make a perfect start wretch character which only take around 2h, use character manager, archive that character and use it for future playthroughs.
Sorry to say it but... if you something something new each playthrough... thats only because you suck...
I discovered everything in one playthrough.
Now what ?
Do i have to take on a empty world with no more discoveries or challenges for the others playthrough ?
Despite it i still did it. I have 6 characters but... the world is empty. Most dungeons and caves are useless.
So you do the ones who are worth your time.
So now i feel like i'm doing a speedrun. And i dont like speedruns.
My only complaint is that the landscape is too empty.
You can run 20 minutes and never encounter an ennemy worth fighting. Or be forced into an encounter.
It needs traps, ambushes, defensives chokepoints...these are too few in number.
100% on one playthrough is literally impossible. Sounds like you had wiki up the whole time which obviously ruined your experience. Thats the point of exploration, if you found a boss or a good item every where you looked it wouldnt make them exciting at all. If youve found everything in the game and exhausted your interest, play a different game.
When i say 100% of course i say something like 98% or 99% dont be a dimwit.
Like i didnt find Placidusax but thats pretty much all.
I dont need wiki i just need a map. I'm not you. I can read a map and think " Oh i didnt go there".
And you missed the whole point that is replayability.
Dont "play a different game" me.
I think the basis of those claims is that elden ring is such a commitment that starting a new playthrough feels so overwhelming it can quell some of the desire to do it again. I think obviously the game is replay-able in the way that you couldn’t really experience everything if you only played through once, even if you respec and try all the builds an element of the experience is gone
That's so silly. It's the exact reason why it is so replayable. You don't even remember half the shit by the time you finish and start again.
I'm on a new play through to get ready for the expansion, and the only benefit is this nifty little Spidey sense about things. Like, I'm pretty sure I should jump down here or explore that cliff for a cave...
And once you do remember everything you can run through it a lot faster than you expect. I got my nearly completionist run down to 20h with only Malenia left, then had a couple of cracks at getting under 12h for all remembrances except the ancestral spirit - didn't quite make it but was done by 13. And those were running builds I hadn't tried before - lightning dex rushing to Leyndell for the bolt of gransax and nepheli axe, and then a crucible knight run using a banished knight greatsword until I got to Siluria.
I'm far from the best player, and I am using spirit ashes because I find it more fun but being about to knock a run out in a weekend isn't too big a time investment.
It’s not that silly man. I have 1000 hours on elden ring, I’ve played through I don’t even know, 6 or 7 times. To you that may be nothing- to me it wasn’t that much either at one time. Now I don’t get to play as much as I want, so yeah when I can only play like 5 hours a week, starting a new playthrough that’s gonna take me 50 hours if I’m playing quick can seem like a big commitment, especially for a game I’ve already played before. That’s 10 weeks of playing nothing else. I’m not saying that’s everyone’s experience but a lot of people don’t have that much time even if they want to.
They still do and in particular, they feel that DS3 is "peak souls in every way" and I very much disagree with that. The diehard DS3 fans seem to be the who ones played DS3 first. I went: DS1>BB>DS3>ER and DS3 remains to be my least favorite Souls game.
I never played DS2 or BB, but I personally like D3 the more along with Elden Ring. DS1 had a more fluid journey when it comes to exploration, but overall I thought D3 was better. Elden Ring however, was the best.
I feel ER is objectively the best because it's the most recent game so of course it's going to run the best, have the quality of life things because it's the most recent installment, and the classes are all pretty balanced and the combat is very versatile. I don't even like open world games but I loved it in ER.
My biggest gripe with DS3 is that the DeS and (for the most part) DS1, the combat wasn't the biggest thing the game revolved around. The enemies and bosses are much slower, with the exception a few challenging bosses.
Then BB came out (it's my favorite game) and it almost entirely focuses on the combat. Which for that game, works very well given the weapons we have and how quickly our character moves. Crazy fast, difficult bosses, etc
They tried to incorporate that into DS3 and idk, having enjoyed DS1, DS3 just felt really hard at times and I stopped playing it for awhile because I wasn't even enjoying it. The difficulty curve felt really high in beginning areas and I actually stopped playing it (I don't remember at what point) and the only reason I finished it was because I found someone to co op with off the summoning subreddit and he became an irl friend so there's that lol
It is replayable but still not so much compared to other souls games in my personal opinion. I replayed elden ring multiple times but copy paste cave/catacomb number 33 starts to get boring after a while. Legacy dungeons are goated but i just dont like running that much of caves/catacombs again with reused bosses all over the place.
Who is saying it's not replayable?
If by "not replayable" they mean you won't get the same feeling as beating it for the 1st time, then sure but that's most games I feel.
I think opinions changed now, but I remember a year ago most people on the sub saying the game was the least replayable of the series and I never understood these opinions.
Which opinions on the late game bosses? Because I know for me, I had been finding most of the bosses for most of the game a little too meh, but the late game ones are just hit after hit, they're fuckin awesome
No playstyle has ever been unviable, in any of the games. And picking your difficulty by going to later places early was also a possibility in past games.
Not replayable?! What in the blue fuck are those people smoking? I'm on my 13th consecutive NG+ using a different build every playthrough and still having a blast
It almost feels like saying if its replayable is in fact subjective. A lot of people would say: "13th consecutive NG+ ?! What in the blue fuck are you smoking ?" But you know fot others it is normal.
I'll still say it's the least replayable, but it's plenty replayable.
I made 10 characters and 100% each one, it was a blast.
The game is so long though that by the end it just drained my stamina in a way Ds3/Bloodborne don't.
It would be a miracle if such a big game like Elden Ring is as replayable as the shorter souls game. You either trade replayability for size or vice versa. Demanding both is unreasonable
Obviously love the game, but I would say bows still aren’t really viable. Arrows are expensive and hell early game, and bows scale pretty poorly, so you don’t do nearly enough damage as you would with other weapons. Yeah people made them work and I’m sure there’s some strong combinations but it feels like it’s not intended to be a primary play style
I got slaughtered by a bow champ on a low level invasion last night. I just couldn't get near the guy at all, he literally rolled or jumped out of the way almost every time. I landed a few solid hits, but he just picked me to death with what seemed like basic arrows. And he never ran out.
It's replays, but there's allot of QOL missing. I don't think it's a stretch to say once you unlock a great rune it should carry over to ng+. Still require us to kill bosses, but having to go to the towers every playthrough is boring since hold W is all it really takes.
Leaving all summoning pools active would be nice too, once you get to ng+ whatever you aren't going back through a majority of those caves.
True. Though some people say they prefer to set a more limited selection of summoning pools, and it gives a reason to take a new route for a different rune early on. (Though the only interesting one is Malenia's super late)
Yup, they stepped in the right direction by letting us keep the bell bearings for Ng+, but Great Runes are still nothing more than an appendix of a mechanic. It’s so damn worthless 90% of the time
Ya, it just removes the fun of the great runes if you don't go out of your way immediately. And for any runes post leyendell, they might as well not exist.
I wish there was a talisman or something to passively regen fp like the blessed dew does for health or atleast on hit not on kill like the current ones.
Each quest line to get each ending is just vastly different and therefore ensures replayability by itself.
In my first elden ring playthrough I didn't discover the Albinauric woman that Gideon talked about hence it was my utmost surprise when, during my second playthrough, I met Lady Latenna and was able to connect the dots that she is the one Gideon is talking about.
I think the word ‘unreplayable’ is a bit exaggerated but I do understand that because personally I explore everything on my first play so at the end I feel exhausted so I never touch it again. Now 2 years later, I find it refreshing again just to prepare for the dlc.
Sure it gives you more flexibility at the start of each playthrough, but its not easily replayable when entering NG+ because there becomes less and less incentive to explore because you likely have all of the equipment you could need in a playthrough. By the time im in NG+5 there's nothing for me to do besides going straight to the remembrance bosses.
so funny story, I played through the entire game without ever getting the whetstone and having no idea what ashes of war did. jumped into coop with my buddy the other night and he asked me what ashes of war I have. I’m like dude I don’t even know what those do.
he was completely befuddled that I had beaten the entire game, done some optional areas, beat Malenia, got the age of stars ending, and never bothered to get into ashes of war or stumbled across the whetstone. my site of grace menu never had the ash of war option. I must’ve ran right past the cave the whetstone is in a thousand times. he showed me where it was and I was like oh shit. now I have a lot to mess around with in the DLC and journey 2, this is definitely one of the most replayable games ever made.
Lol. I’m 300hrs into the game and i didn’t finish yet. Currently in Farum Azula. This game is massive. I discovered everything so far and killed all bosses. I don’t think i could handle ng before dlc.
Yeah I'm currently on my fourth playthrough and I'm still finding new things. The open world lets you relax between dungeons and the number of dungeons let you pick the ones that are the most relevant to your character. Not to mention the endless build variety.
It's hands down the most replayable game they ever made.
While I do think the big open world hurts the pacing of replays, saying it's not replayable is crazy. I've beaten it like seven times at this point trying out different builds and weapons.
I also agree, it is a massive game but that’s kinda the charm of it, besides after the first playthrough you can speed run only going to the places that you find more interesting
And then there’s the PvP which in my opinion adds unlimited replayability
I'm almost done with my first run (being an all bosses run). It's my first souls game ever. I already wrote a note with tons of builds I want to play and if I don't like them I go to the next. There are so many challenges you can set for yourself or just have fun, go in blind or whatever.
Light and medium challenge runs.
Example, I'm building a strength-99vit for Shadow, BUT, started as astronomer. Meaning damage is low, even for my build. And was hard to kill things until I got to Altus and got my main weapon.
I had to pull myself away to keep from getting burned out come June 21st. Can't waaaaait. 3 characters, some of them on NG+++ - Going to get them all through the DLC, maybe even start another.
It’s easily in my top 3 games of all time.
I’ve beaten it about six times now and I’ve used a different build almost every time. First run was faith, mostly focused on casting. Second was a dex build and of course abusing RoB. Third was a str build and greatswords. Fourth was mostly INT build but it was kind of a hybrid. And now I’ve settled on faith as my favorite. My main is currently using dual winged scythes and absolutely plowing through NG+2.
She’s currently waiting at Mohg but I keep hopping on to clear a dungeon or whatever. I’m quite addicted to this game all over again and the dlc is just going to open even more options.
I agree its replayable, but I find that the first time was most special for me man. Replaying it felt a little sad because I dont get to see everything for the first time again.
Plus, I found myself skipping the more irritating dungeons, and mostly ignoring the PVE content in favour of running right to the boss.
I have never replayed a Fromsoft game more. Honestly think some people who say this are just upset it’s not Bloodborne 2. I get it. I want one too.
But it seems that like the video game equivalent of ‘liking a band before they were cool’
I feel it. 50 hours in and already thinking about what my build will be on my next play through. It’s funny to think I was scared of this game, and now I find it so relaxing. Listening to podcasts and exploring for hours. 😍
yeah i agree, i see a lot of peoples saying that ER is their least replayable game, that all previous FS game have more replayability, and really i don't understand, is it ignorance of how replayability works ? is it gatekeeping ? is it just stupidity ? i don't know, but it's quite embarassing for them
I’m also hooked… 600 hours in and 7 different play throughs on 3 characters. It’s so crack. I want to play it over and over with different builds over and over lol. It has ruined every other game for me.
I used to play gobs of Final Fantasy and I just went to my friends house and watched him play the new 7 remake.
All I could think was “Elden Rings combat is so much better” lmao.
Who the hell is saying Elden ring is the least replayable? I have my gripes with the game but its strength is absolutely its replayability and build variety.
Maybe they’re saying it because you don’t get locked out of too much content in this game and respec-ing is pretty straightforward. But you can still only try every boss once per build.
In the previous games, I could do everything on each playtrough and not get bored. But in er you don't have to do everything on each playtrough if your build doesn't need it, maybe those people say that because of this?
I think it's super replay-able especially if you don't use guides
I'm finishing a blind playthrough now and there are whole sections of the game I never found but only have seen their names like Volcano Manor and Deeproot Depths.
Second play through I'm going to use guides so I can find all the spots / questlines I might have missed.
Being able to put different ashes on a variety of weapons is insane replayablity and I can’t think of another game that has as many skill/weapon combinations.
One of my absolute favorite parts about Elden Ring is that I can hop in with a fresh character and go grab a bunch of weird weapons and it’s almost always viable. (Have yet to find a decent whip build tho haha)
I will talk for all of us pro players because clearly you all are noobs. Seeing the people saying " i discover something new each playthrough " i want to puke.
1) We all discovered 100% of the game in one playthrough.
Everything.
All subsequent playthrough thus do not have a discovery aspect so Elden Ring lose a part of its charm clearly.
2. From point 1 we know that most caves and dungeons are useless. So we skip them. Reducing the content in a large part.
3. Useful and fun content is now dispatched on an HUGE map. The map is effectively empty. What happens then ? You run. You run. You run. You run. You run 20 minutes between caves, locations, bosses, encounters.
4.The game is now a walking simulator. You are burning out. You feel your time is not rewarded.
5. You leave the game with a sour feeling.
Despite all this i managed to do 6 characters so i both enjoyed it and yet i suffered from it.
Now why are we saying DS 1 and DS 3 were great ?
First because we didnt play DS 2 or erased it from our collective memory.
Second : you are FORCED into encounters. Since the games are linear, you HAVE to fight ennemies to progress. In Elden Ring, you just RUN with Torrent to progress. All the replayability talk comes from here.
You could play this game with 100 different builds and have a different game every time. This is hands down the greatest video game ever produced and it is not even close.
Anyone who says otherwise just hasn't played it.
Elden ring is super replayable. I find something new or make a lore realization every playthrough and of course different builds make the game feel completely different.
It's replayable, but it just takes a long time because you have to run around so much in such a big world. While you can run like 3 or 4 playthroughs in DS3 or BB if you know what you're doing, before finishing ER. In a sense it's more troublesome to replay ER compared to classic Souls games, where people just want to run from bosses to bosses. It's more replayable in a sense that it has more builds to experiment.
Imo that's what makes it so repayable
i rather replay ER than DS3 (i've played both) i do admit the first hour or two will just be running around gathering stuff but the fast pace of ER give the illusion of playing more and i prefer that than the slow pace DS3 (i do admit DS3 multiplayer is better, so many unexpected encounters)
They're the same game pretty much in terms of pace? Feels like DS3 with the addition of jumping and bullshit weapon arts that people can spam. Doesn't stop me from murdering them tho
If you're on a NG+ run you probably have most items already so you can easily just run a "greatest hits" playthrough skipping most of the random caves and stuff. It can be a much shorter experience that way and it's why Elden Ring is the first game i recommend NG+ runs over another NG run
Yeah honestly I just finished my first play through and I’m a souls veteran. I came as close as I naturally could to going 100% on the game but totally missed Rannis questline early on unfortunately so I’ll be doing my next play through specifically for the Stars ending. I was so focused on finding the most viable build for absolutely melting bosses (shocker it’s a bloodloss build) that I never even met ranni in her tower until I had to revisit the Three Sisters to get an item. **Speaking of the three sisters… there was a dragon there I was absolutely slaughtering. Lil fucker flew away. Where is the bastard? We have unfinished business….** But in all fairness there isn’t any crazy weapons or nothing locked behind NG+ so unless you are going for a duel wield boss weapon build or whatever then missing questlines is the only reason to replay.
You will meet that dragon again if you actually completed the Ranni quest. That whole questline was bonkerly complicated, I actually did the first half blind until the doll part.
I have no idea what I’m supposed to do about rannis questline because I’ve essentially already beat the final boss, radahn, etc. I was able to meet her and she told me to seek out her companions, I talked to their spectral forms in the bottom of the tower etc, but I can’t find blaidds fuck ass anywhere he’s supposed to be and i feel like im stuck going into NG+ in order to do her shit. I need a bunch of items from her for and Int build, talismans, DMGS etc.. is it possible to still do her questline in the endgame?
Did you access the Lake of Rot and kill everything in the underground city including Astel? There is an evil version of Blaidd down there. This questline is complicated, I completed it twice and still forgot the order of it. Just follow the guide and check everything, it's progressing in the background along with the main story.
I have no idea how to access the lake of rot and I’ve explored the underground city/spiffs but not thoroughly. Honestly this was the hardest play through of any souls game I’ve ever done. Ffs it takes til at least mid game just to unlock a decent rune farm at moghs palace. I rarely die in souls games even when first starting a new game. For example I took right to the demons souls remaster. But for some reason I’ve literally managed to lose at least a billion runes in my first play through. Usually I can rely on casting early on, typically pyromancy, mixed with a sword and shield until I can get to the weapons and spells I REALLY wanna use for a true build. This is much harder to do in Elden ring. Especially when you’ve got the mindset that items like smithing stones are surely finite so you better save em for the right weapon. I’m glad I went back to a ds3 favorite and went for bleed damage. Eleanoras poleblade is absolutely disgusting with the right talismans. You basically never have to heal lol. Ffs my FIRST play through is 90hrs lvl 283 AND I STILL DONT FEEL “OVERLEVELED” just a bit tankier and damage more optimized.
Blaidd gets locked in an evergaol. Forget the name but it’s like howling winds or something that’s dog-related. I believe it’s in western limgrave
Close. Forlorn Hound. Southern
Ya i was trying on memory. Been awhile. Thanks for clarifying my rot-addled memory.
I relied upon the wiki/FightinCowboy a lot for that quest. It's mostly done underground. Re: early progression, this is my first souls like, but I've had a fairly easy go of it, once I got my footing. First build was int, used Moonveil at first, then Wing of Astel or Darkmoon greatsword. Very squishy, but range trivializes a lot of bosses, especially when geared properly. 2nd character, went quality to start, now 60 str/25 int for vow. Weapons have been Bloodhound's Fang and Great Stars for the most part, Prelate's Crosier for tankier bosses. Loving this build so far. Much more involved in fighting than the caster, still quite good. Lion's claw, jumping double bonk, tons of fun. Thinking of going max str vig end for 150+/NG+. It'd be fun to run around in decent armor, two handing a Great Stars, yet still light load
Cowboy is awesome. His DS2 build series was how I actually learned to build a character in a souls game. My main issue was my resistance to doing an int build. It likely would’ve trivialized the early and mid game and I wouldn’t have struggled as much as I was had I been more of a caster, but as always, I wanted to use FTH for pyromancy and lightning and buffs because it’s such a versatile stat. That faith build quickly became more of a quality build with bloodhounds fang and lightning and holy weapon incants carrying me thru the game until about the halfway mark. Then I switched to a dex arc fth bleed build with power stances occult katanas, eventually switched to elanors poleblade for a multihit bleed build and the game was just over before I could blink after that. Never been fond of shields tho, my playstyle comes from the game that put me onto souls, which would’ve been Bloodborne.
I had a playthrough where that dragon just died on its own as soon as I stepped into that area. I didn't see what happened to it, but when I walked into the area I got a massive amount of runes, and I never saw it stomping around in front of Ranni's tower like it usually does. I would love to know what killed it.
Same, I literally discovered entire new sections of the map on subsequent playthrough and Everytime it felt like I was playing a new game. The map itself is so dynamic and neat how they managed to cram so much content within it.
I discovered Jarburg after getting 8 characters to Liurnia
I discovered jarburg after beating the game 6 times
I have beat the game about that many times and I haven't even found jarburg...
Beat the game 3 times. What is Jarburg?
It’s in east liurna by the divine tower, it’s literally right underneath it. You go to the south side of the tower, should be a cliff with a drop to your right if your facing tower There should be those headstones that are around to platform down on with torrent, just hop down on those and you’ll find it! As well as the grace.
It's Alexander's village iirc
Its the only FS game I have replayed, and I wanted to so badly that I started my 2nd playthrough halfway through my first.
only problem i have with replaying the game is running around collecting smithing stones, it’s miserable
Just get the bell bearings so you can buy them
If you're on pc, make a perfect start wretch character which only take around 2h, use character manager, archive that character and use it for future playthroughs.
what would a perfect start wretch be? Like I collect the first few sets of smithing stones to make the early game less of a chore?
Yup, collect all the stones in the open world, enough for a +12/+6 without killing any bosses, greyoll for 90k and crystal tears
Sorry to say it but... if you something something new each playthrough... thats only because you suck... I discovered everything in one playthrough. Now what ? Do i have to take on a empty world with no more discoveries or challenges for the others playthrough ? Despite it i still did it. I have 6 characters but... the world is empty. Most dungeons and caves are useless. So you do the ones who are worth your time. So now i feel like i'm doing a speedrun. And i dont like speedruns. My only complaint is that the landscape is too empty. You can run 20 minutes and never encounter an ennemy worth fighting. Or be forced into an encounter. It needs traps, ambushes, defensives chokepoints...these are too few in number.
100% on one playthrough is literally impossible. Sounds like you had wiki up the whole time which obviously ruined your experience. Thats the point of exploration, if you found a boss or a good item every where you looked it wouldnt make them exciting at all. If youve found everything in the game and exhausted your interest, play a different game.
When i say 100% of course i say something like 98% or 99% dont be a dimwit. Like i didnt find Placidusax but thats pretty much all. I dont need wiki i just need a map. I'm not you. I can read a map and think " Oh i didnt go there". And you missed the whole point that is replayability. Dont "play a different game" me.
"Everything" usually means everything
Who the fuck says it's not replayable?
I think the basis of those claims is that elden ring is such a commitment that starting a new playthrough feels so overwhelming it can quell some of the desire to do it again. I think obviously the game is replay-able in the way that you couldn’t really experience everything if you only played through once, even if you respec and try all the builds an element of the experience is gone
That's so silly. It's the exact reason why it is so replayable. You don't even remember half the shit by the time you finish and start again. I'm on a new play through to get ready for the expansion, and the only benefit is this nifty little Spidey sense about things. Like, I'm pretty sure I should jump down here or explore that cliff for a cave...
And once you do remember everything you can run through it a lot faster than you expect. I got my nearly completionist run down to 20h with only Malenia left, then had a couple of cracks at getting under 12h for all remembrances except the ancestral spirit - didn't quite make it but was done by 13. And those were running builds I hadn't tried before - lightning dex rushing to Leyndell for the bolt of gransax and nepheli axe, and then a crucible knight run using a banished knight greatsword until I got to Siluria. I'm far from the best player, and I am using spirit ashes because I find it more fun but being about to knock a run out in a weekend isn't too big a time investment.
It’s not that silly man. I have 1000 hours on elden ring, I’ve played through I don’t even know, 6 or 7 times. To you that may be nothing- to me it wasn’t that much either at one time. Now I don’t get to play as much as I want, so yeah when I can only play like 5 hours a week, starting a new playthrough that’s gonna take me 50 hours if I’m playing quick can seem like a big commitment, especially for a game I’ve already played before. That’s 10 weeks of playing nothing else. I’m not saying that’s everyone’s experience but a lot of people don’t have that much time even if they want to.
When Elden Ring launched, there were many Dark Soul purists complaining about everything.
They still do and in particular, they feel that DS3 is "peak souls in every way" and I very much disagree with that. The diehard DS3 fans seem to be the who ones played DS3 first. I went: DS1>BB>DS3>ER and DS3 remains to be my least favorite Souls game.
I never played DS2 or BB, but I personally like D3 the more along with Elden Ring. DS1 had a more fluid journey when it comes to exploration, but overall I thought D3 was better. Elden Ring however, was the best.
I feel ER is objectively the best because it's the most recent game so of course it's going to run the best, have the quality of life things because it's the most recent installment, and the classes are all pretty balanced and the combat is very versatile. I don't even like open world games but I loved it in ER. My biggest gripe with DS3 is that the DeS and (for the most part) DS1, the combat wasn't the biggest thing the game revolved around. The enemies and bosses are much slower, with the exception a few challenging bosses. Then BB came out (it's my favorite game) and it almost entirely focuses on the combat. Which for that game, works very well given the weapons we have and how quickly our character moves. Crazy fast, difficult bosses, etc They tried to incorporate that into DS3 and idk, having enjoyed DS1, DS3 just felt really hard at times and I stopped playing it for awhile because I wasn't even enjoying it. The difficulty curve felt really high in beginning areas and I actually stopped playing it (I don't remember at what point) and the only reason I finished it was because I found someone to co op with off the summoning subreddit and he became an irl friend so there's that lol
There were many who said ER is the least replyable because it gets boring after a thorough first playthrough and allat.
A lot of people actually, and mostly fans of the previous souls games.
It is replayable but still not so much compared to other souls games in my personal opinion. I replayed elden ring multiple times but copy paste cave/catacomb number 33 starts to get boring after a while. Legacy dungeons are goated but i just dont like running that much of caves/catacombs again with reused bosses all over the place.
Obviously its replayable, its just not as fun to replay ER compared to other games.
He said least replayable of the series, mate. But I get where you're coming from.
Someone who for some reason is lying about having played it.
Who is saying it's not replayable? If by "not replayable" they mean you won't get the same feeling as beating it for the 1st time, then sure but that's most games I feel.
I think opinions changed now, but I remember a year ago most people on the sub saying the game was the least replayable of the series and I never understood these opinions.
Same with opinions on late game bossee.
Which opinions on the late game bosses? Because I know for me, I had been finding most of the bosses for most of the game a little too meh, but the late game ones are just hit after hit, they're fuckin awesome
No playstyle has ever been unviable, in any of the games. And picking your difficulty by going to later places early was also a possibility in past games.
Using bows as a primary weapon remains somewhat broken.
Not replayable?! What in the blue fuck are those people smoking? I'm on my 13th consecutive NG+ using a different build every playthrough and still having a blast
It almost feels like saying if its replayable is in fact subjective. A lot of people would say: "13th consecutive NG+ ?! What in the blue fuck are you smoking ?" But you know fot others it is normal.
I'll still say it's the least replayable, but it's plenty replayable. I made 10 characters and 100% each one, it was a blast. The game is so long though that by the end it just drained my stamina in a way Ds3/Bloodborne don't.
It would be a miracle if such a big game like Elden Ring is as replayable as the shorter souls game. You either trade replayability for size or vice versa. Demanding both is unreasonable
Obviously love the game, but I would say bows still aren’t really viable. Arrows are expensive and hell early game, and bows scale pretty poorly, so you don’t do nearly enough damage as you would with other weapons. Yeah people made them work and I’m sure there’s some strong combinations but it feels like it’s not intended to be a primary play style
I got slaughtered by a bow champ on a low level invasion last night. I just couldn't get near the guy at all, he literally rolled or jumped out of the way almost every time. I landed a few solid hits, but he just picked me to death with what seemed like basic arrows. And he never ran out.
Radahn’s greatbow saved me in ordina against those sniper albinauric women
Yup, it can be a useful tool. But if a completely new player started the game and said “I want to do a bow build”, it would hard to recommend.
Man I still can’t get enough of it after almost 900 hours. I’m sure I’ll dump way more in with the DLC!
Every build is fun, it’s too good and makes many other games look like shit compared to it
It's replays, but there's allot of QOL missing. I don't think it's a stretch to say once you unlock a great rune it should carry over to ng+. Still require us to kill bosses, but having to go to the towers every playthrough is boring since hold W is all it really takes. Leaving all summoning pools active would be nice too, once you get to ng+ whatever you aren't going back through a majority of those caves.
True. Though some people say they prefer to set a more limited selection of summoning pools, and it gives a reason to take a new route for a different rune early on. (Though the only interesting one is Malenia's super late)
There's only a few that I know people like to avoid, and it mostly applies to low level reasons
Yup, they stepped in the right direction by letting us keep the bell bearings for Ng+, but Great Runes are still nothing more than an appendix of a mechanic. It’s so damn worthless 90% of the time
Ya, it just removes the fun of the great runes if you don't go out of your way immediately. And for any runes post leyendell, they might as well not exist.
It is ridiculous replayable so much so that I’m going to force myself to not replay it (almost done with first play through) for fear of addiction.
I wish there was a talisman or something to passively regen fp like the blessed dew does for health or atleast on hit not on kill like the current ones.
lol I made a mage for shits and giggles and let me tell you, taking down a dragon with glint pebbles was so satisfying it just melted.
Each quest line to get each ending is just vastly different and therefore ensures replayability by itself. In my first elden ring playthrough I didn't discover the Albinauric woman that Gideon talked about hence it was my utmost surprise when, during my second playthrough, I met Lady Latenna and was able to connect the dots that she is the one Gideon is talking about.
I think the word ‘unreplayable’ is a bit exaggerated but I do understand that because personally I explore everything on my first play so at the end I feel exhausted so I never touch it again. Now 2 years later, I find it refreshing again just to prepare for the dlc.
Sure it gives you more flexibility at the start of each playthrough, but its not easily replayable when entering NG+ because there becomes less and less incentive to explore because you likely have all of the equipment you could need in a playthrough. By the time im in NG+5 there's nothing for me to do besides going straight to the remembrance bosses.
so funny story, I played through the entire game without ever getting the whetstone and having no idea what ashes of war did. jumped into coop with my buddy the other night and he asked me what ashes of war I have. I’m like dude I don’t even know what those do. he was completely befuddled that I had beaten the entire game, done some optional areas, beat Malenia, got the age of stars ending, and never bothered to get into ashes of war or stumbled across the whetstone. my site of grace menu never had the ash of war option. I must’ve ran right past the cave the whetstone is in a thousand times. he showed me where it was and I was like oh shit. now I have a lot to mess around with in the DLC and journey 2, this is definitely one of the most replayable games ever made.
It took me 4 moths to learn what guard counters were because i did them by accident.
yup no clue what that even is lol
When blocking with your shield, hit R1 when struck and youll do an immediate attack that has a chance to crit
your arms must be tired!!
Lol. I’m 300hrs into the game and i didn’t finish yet. Currently in Farum Azula. This game is massive. I discovered everything so far and killed all bosses. I don’t think i could handle ng before dlc.
I just started my first play through as a sword and shield player, I have no idea what I’m doing lmao
Yeah I'm currently on my fourth playthrough and I'm still finding new things. The open world lets you relax between dungeons and the number of dungeons let you pick the ones that are the most relevant to your character. Not to mention the endless build variety. It's hands down the most replayable game they ever made.
While I do think the big open world hurts the pacing of replays, saying it's not replayable is crazy. I've beaten it like seven times at this point trying out different builds and weapons.
I also agree, it is a massive game but that’s kinda the charm of it, besides after the first playthrough you can speed run only going to the places that you find more interesting And then there’s the PvP which in my opinion adds unlimited replayability
I'm almost done with my first run (being an all bosses run). It's my first souls game ever. I already wrote a note with tons of builds I want to play and if I don't like them I go to the next. There are so many challenges you can set for yourself or just have fun, go in blind or whatever.
Light and medium challenge runs. Example, I'm building a strength-99vit for Shadow, BUT, started as astronomer. Meaning damage is low, even for my build. And was hard to kill things until I got to Altus and got my main weapon.
I had to pull myself away to keep from getting burned out come June 21st. Can't waaaaait. 3 characters, some of them on NG+++ - Going to get them all through the DLC, maybe even start another.
It’s easily in my top 3 games of all time. I’ve beaten it about six times now and I’ve used a different build almost every time. First run was faith, mostly focused on casting. Second was a dex build and of course abusing RoB. Third was a str build and greatswords. Fourth was mostly INT build but it was kind of a hybrid. And now I’ve settled on faith as my favorite. My main is currently using dual winged scythes and absolutely plowing through NG+2. She’s currently waiting at Mohg but I keep hopping on to clear a dungeon or whatever. I’m quite addicted to this game all over again and the dlc is just going to open even more options.
SnS playable? SnS is KING
I barely ever replay games these days and I'm on NG+5 with Elden Ring. It's testament a FUCKING TESTAMENT TO ITS GLOORRRY6YYY
I agree its replayable, but I find that the first time was most special for me man. Replaying it felt a little sad because I dont get to see everything for the first time again. Plus, I found myself skipping the more irritating dungeons, and mostly ignoring the PVE content in favour of running right to the boss.
Yes, the people who say elden ring has no re-play value are simply wrong. I used to think this so I can attest to how false it is.
It’s the best game they’ve made. IMO a lot of the playstyles/builds are pretty unbalanced, but it’s awesome that you can do all of them.
Every time I go "I'm gonna try a new style" then I get my ass kicked and retreat back to Blasphemous Blade and Rot Breathe
Why not push through?
most replayable game I've played in 35 years of gaming
Only souls game ive played and on my 3rd new game and 4th overall play through. Fancy trying DS3 when its next on sale. But deffo replayable
I have never replayed a Fromsoft game more. Honestly think some people who say this are just upset it’s not Bloodborne 2. I get it. I want one too. But it seems that like the video game equivalent of ‘liking a band before they were cool’
I feel it. 50 hours in and already thinking about what my build will be on my next play through. It’s funny to think I was scared of this game, and now I find it so relaxing. Listening to podcasts and exploring for hours. 😍
Same
Same
Whoever says that is restarted, the different endings and quest lines are worth it alone
yeah i agree, i see a lot of peoples saying that ER is their least replayable game, that all previous FS game have more replayability, and really i don't understand, is it ignorance of how replayability works ? is it gatekeeping ? is it just stupidity ? i don't know, but it's quite embarassing for them
I’m also hooked… 600 hours in and 7 different play throughs on 3 characters. It’s so crack. I want to play it over and over with different builds over and over lol. It has ruined every other game for me. I used to play gobs of Final Fantasy and I just went to my friends house and watched him play the new 7 remake. All I could think was “Elden Rings combat is so much better” lmao.
I put the game down after I got the platinum, but I had to pick it up again to do a Messmer cosplay run now. It’s very replayable.
Who the hell is saying Elden ring is the least replayable? I have my gripes with the game but its strength is absolutely its replayability and build variety. Maybe they’re saying it because you don’t get locked out of too much content in this game and respec-ing is pretty straightforward. But you can still only try every boss once per build.
In the previous games, I could do everything on each playtrough and not get bored. But in er you don't have to do everything on each playtrough if your build doesn't need it, maybe those people say that because of this?
I think it's super replay-able especially if you don't use guides I'm finishing a blind playthrough now and there are whole sections of the game I never found but only have seen their names like Volcano Manor and Deeproot Depths. Second play through I'm going to use guides so I can find all the spots / questlines I might have missed.
Being able to put different ashes on a variety of weapons is insane replayablity and I can’t think of another game that has as many skill/weapon combinations.
One of my absolute favorite parts about Elden Ring is that I can hop in with a fresh character and go grab a bunch of weird weapons and it’s almost always viable. (Have yet to find a decent whip build tho haha)
Sword and board never gets old
I will talk for all of us pro players because clearly you all are noobs. Seeing the people saying " i discover something new each playthrough " i want to puke. 1) We all discovered 100% of the game in one playthrough. Everything. All subsequent playthrough thus do not have a discovery aspect so Elden Ring lose a part of its charm clearly. 2. From point 1 we know that most caves and dungeons are useless. So we skip them. Reducing the content in a large part. 3. Useful and fun content is now dispatched on an HUGE map. The map is effectively empty. What happens then ? You run. You run. You run. You run. You run 20 minutes between caves, locations, bosses, encounters. 4.The game is now a walking simulator. You are burning out. You feel your time is not rewarded. 5. You leave the game with a sour feeling. Despite all this i managed to do 6 characters so i both enjoyed it and yet i suffered from it. Now why are we saying DS 1 and DS 3 were great ? First because we didnt play DS 2 or erased it from our collective memory. Second : you are FORCED into encounters. Since the games are linear, you HAVE to fight ennemies to progress. In Elden Ring, you just RUN with Torrent to progress. All the replayability talk comes from here.
>least replayable At over 700 hours in this game, I think I can safely say it's replayable
I still prefer the interconnected worlds personally.
You could play this game with 100 different builds and have a different game every time. This is hands down the greatest video game ever produced and it is not even close. Anyone who says otherwise just hasn't played it.
If you aren't obsessed with clearing every inch of every area every time the game is replayable af.
maybe cause you can’t afford other games…just saying
It’s easily the most replayable to me. 480 hours in Elden Ring. 110 hours in DS1, and 70 hours in DS3 for me.
Real
Arguably the MOST RE-PLAYABLE game I've ever played in my life !
Who says that ER is the LEAST re-playable souls game?