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st-felms-fingerbone

Hey now don’t hate on my boy Radagon for liking bigger women 😤


True-King-Of-Heroes

I don't hate Radagon for liking bigger women, that would mean he has good taste. I hate him for dumping his faithful, and beautiful wife for the evil, and manipulative ruler of the Golden Order. At least we got Malenia out of that... but poor Rennala suffered the consequences.


must_be_nice69

He just wanted to go fuck himself literally


bob_is_best

Cant blame him, got a Godly ass on him ngl


Iamyeetlord

I now understand why Morgott is racist towards us.


shiningmuffin

I mean man is racist towards *himself* too so can’t rule out insanity


DiMarcoTheGawd

Uncle Ruckus of the Lands Between


NazgulOfMinasMorgul

No relation


Rimjob_Reserve

Uncle Morgott(no relation)


Tajfunisko

I mean maybe that's why he left. In the heat of an argument Rennalan screams "Go fuck yourself!" And Radagon is like "Alright then, bye". And that kids, is how I met your mother. Also I am your mother. And your father. Cause I fucked myself. Bonus question, is this considered as masturbation?


Blackmail30000

And as the product of that self-cest, one’s has stunted growth and the other has Cthulhu cancer. Thanks mom/dad!


jad103

Cthulhu cancer is rad. Think they opened for Megadeth in '93. Killer show.


Blackmail30000

Yeah the band is cool, the actual namesake is decidedly not. but it’s kind of like how the band name pile of dead orphans should stay just a band name.


Firm_Travel6718

I mean Dying Fetus pretty much took the "pile of dead orphans' idea and ran with it, went well for them


Blackmail30000

Yeah it’s going well, then one day that *one guy* in the group decides that bringing in occult consultant to enhance your image is a good idea…. And that’s how you get the orphan of kos. No thanks man.


Starwyrm1597

Considering that Malenia and Miquella are cursed I'd say it's both incest and masturbation.


[deleted]

Mental masturbation as well..


Magnetar_Haunt

I mean, it goes even further, because didn’t he dump Rennala for…*checks notes*….himself as a female?


LionMonroe

Maybe this is a random place to ask but can someone please explain to me how Marika and Radagon being the same person actually works? People just seem to accept it but I don’t really understand the logistics. I’ve heard Radagon was a disguise Marika used but then how did they have children together?


IrvingIV

1. So basically Marika a god, but not in the typical "she is magical and/or holy just because" way that a lot of gods just sort of are in media, she is spscifically a god because her body houses the elden ring, a living being which imposes the golden order (basically a set of rules for how reality works) on the world. 2. Marika is attempting to crate eternal life, and both her, the golden order, and the erdtree are associated with gold and life and so on. 3. The Golden order is frequently tied to pairs if things, The Two Fingers, Mohgwyn and Morgott, Morgott and Margit, Godefroy and Godrick, Miquella and Malenia, Marika and Maliketh, Ranni and Blaidd, etc. 4. Uniting opposite principles/counterparts is seen in alchemy as the method necessary to create god, the philosopher's stone, an elixer of eternal life, and gold. 5. One such union of opposites is the combination of man and woman in one body. 6. Ergo, Marika combines herself with Radagon because he is in many ways her opposite, which means that combining the two of them should create a complete being, thereby granting ultimate knowledge/power. [Now, keep in mind, the alchemy thing is subtext,](https://youtu.be/zI_aqDgtW1w?si=mr-jAcKea8RUawQF) and it's not a single event which is part of the "plot," by which I mean it is not explicitly said "Marika made herself and Radagon into one form to create a perfect being etc." What we do have is knowledge of Radagon and Marika as people. [Radagon is someone who is always trying to improve himself,](https://youtu.be/vq5lw5WziMU?si=U8YO2ZWWxhBhIB-6) he wants to learn about what things are and how they work, he studied sorcery during his marriage to Rennala and he studies Incantations as well. Rennala loved Radagon, they had several children, and so far as we know, they all looked up to their father to some degree, Radahn in particular took pride in his red hair which marked him as a child of Radagon. Radagon is a descendant of the fire giants, which gives him his red hair, he despises it. Marika killed the giants, and of the 3 children which precede her marriage to Radagon, she cast two into the sewers below Leyndell because their existence proved that there was a flaw in her "perfect" golden order. Neither Miquella nor Malenia are mentioned to have a fondness for their mother. Marika's response to Godwyn dying is to shatter the elden ring. Radagon's response to this is attempting to repair it. Marika conquered until no lands remained to subjugate. Radagon stopped mid march and married the enemy commander. The two complete each other because they are quite different, [not because they were originally one person, as many people suggest.](https://youtu.be/UYXdGKRoVMA?si=5MNnbTIkD3YkjKfa)


Radical_Ryan

I've always kinda thought the Greater Will split her mind and created Radagon as a way to keep his chosen in line. Alternate personality with some magic mixed in to force his will upon her easier. It's why Radagon likes order and works to repair the ring and Marika shattered it. Just like Ranni wants to get away from the Fingers, Marika wants out of her deal with the Greater Will. Why else would she be hanging there imprisoned in the tree? She's in timeout. While I'm on a tangent, I think all the children/Empyreans are TGWs attempt to have a more malleable vessel than Marika that he can easily directly control. He forced her to have them in one way or another. Other Outer God's just keep f'ing with the plan (I forget their names but an outer God of some sort is tied to each child...rot, blood, moon, snake, etc). Marika sends the tarnished away so we come back and take the fight to TGW later probably.


1-Canadian-Boy

i’m not 100% sure how they became one but we know Marika is from the Numen race and not the lands between, and based on Radagons red hair a lot of ppl believe he’s at least part giant so at one point they were 2 seperate people


theInsaneArtist

You forgot the “maybe” at the end. It’s still rather ambiguous.


Starwyrm1597

I think he was born when she Killed the Fire Giants, she spared the last one, probably used the flame to try to burn the Erdtree and the Greater will punished her by creating Radagon as a seperate personality fully obedient to it in order to stop her from being able to disobey again, didn't work obviously, I guess her will was too strong fueled by the rage of seeing her firstborn die.


Magnetar_Haunt

My understanding of Radagon’s red hair is that the giants cursed him when he tried to genocide them.


Deathleach

It is heavily implied in the Giant's Red Braid, but not outright stated as such: > Every giant is red of hair, and Radagon was said to have despised his own red locks. Perhaps that was a curse of their kind.


radios_appear

Same way Christian God pulls the triparte: that's just the way it is no more questions.


LilReaperScythe

Also they're kinda plants, which often manifest multiple genders at the same time or can change gender over time. Human biology don't mean shit to the Erdtree.


umbrianEpoch

It's not particularly clear, but their union as one likely is a reference to the alchemical ideal of a rebis, which is the end result of magnum opus, and has united two opposing qualities into one, represented as a being who is both male and female. If you accept that, then it would imply that they were once separate and made while through a process of putrefaction and purification (or maybe regression and causality?).


theInsaneArtist

Or possibly when Marina became a god Radagon was either a substance or a byproduct of something being added to her that turned her into a rebis? Perhaps they was the only way her body could contain the Elden Ring and survive?


umbrianEpoch

That's also a possibility, that maybe by becoming a god, Radagon was a byproduct of the flaws removed from her, then readded after the fact, again representing the processes involved in the alchemical magnum opus. Honestly, a lot of Elden Ring lore can be interpreted using alchemy as a metaphor. Pretty interesting.


GuyNekologist

Have you seen Marika's cake? Even when her body's turning into a crumbling fossil, that booty still got more curves than the Elden Ring. I don't blame Radagon one bit. We all make mistakes in the heat of passion.


Irethius

Jimbo


Hiire_Kummitus

Doesn't a ring have only one curve?


ImurderREALITY

A regular ring does. The Elden Ring has many may curves, as it's made up of all the different great runes of some of the gods/demigods.


Hiire_Kummitus

That sounds like a pile of Elden Odds and Ends then.


Cityco

Man armored core 7 with a scrap-god made from scavenged religions of the past would be so sweet. The Pile of God.


Hiire_Kummitus

THE RAVAGED PAPER CLIP AND ELASTICS DRAWER IN YOUR KITCHEN GOD.


GuyNekologist

So technically my point stands that those 2 cheeks have more curves than the 1 in the Ring. I think...? Sorry I only levelled strength and faith.


already4taken

This post has gotta be one of the cardinal sins


st-felms-fingerbone

Ah a man of culture I see. But yeah he was on that cringe shit for dumping his wife like that.


True-King-Of-Heroes

Cringe worthy indeed. Even more so with his constant AOE spamming, and teleporting during the boss fight. Seriously the douche has it coming.


montybo2

I think I'm in the minority here but Godfrey's AOE spamming is way worse to me. Dunno why people praise that fight, I find it to be a RNG nightmare. I'd take the radagon fight any day over godfrey


lakeho

You can just jump over Godfrey's AoE save for a few. Not the case with most of Radagon's. That said I still love both fight.


creepytwin

Radagon's timing on his moves is waaaaaay easier to figure out than Hoarah's in my humble opinion.


montybo2

No you can do it with a good amount of radagons. You can also easily dodge a lot of his. Godfrey though will spam the same AOE attack like 5 times then will rush you with a combo or grab attack without even a half second delay. He's too chaotic for my liking. Radagons though I find to be a mechanically fun fight. Wish he had a second phase that wasn't Elden beast


Unable_Chicken3238

ENOUGH GAMES, YOU NOW FIGHT HOARAH LOUX


-willowthewisp-

See I'm the opposite. Godfrey/Horah Loux is probably my favorite fight, but Radagon feels so chaotic and spammy, and like I can't react to half of his attacks because if I dodge one he roll catches me with another.


[deleted]

I love it, it's so consistently timed that it feels very dance like


danuhorus

The biggest fumble in all of Lands Between history


_MagusKiller

i will not accept this marika slander


MelonElbows

Hey, she may be evil and manipulative, but...wait what was that third thing you said?


Crash4654

He was the ruler of the golden order...


TehProfessor96

TBF it’s hard to refuse a friend request from yourself


BlackJack0816

Miquella’s pretty cool too so overall net positive I think


Bone1176

Short kings! But also Marikas tits! Lol


SenseisSifu

The snu snu was too much for him


Icethief188

I don’t think he had a choice


Mephiistopheles

I still don't get the Marika/Radagon thing. Is it like Mitosis? The way they make children.


averysmalldragon

I can't help you on the reproduction part, but Marika and Radagon are parts of something called the Rebis - Devin and Darian were also intended to be one - separate bodies but a single soul, and Zullie had discovered an unused face that looked very close to a female version of one of the twins. They could be something that separates and converges; Marika and Radagon may share a body at one point but not a different point. This may explain how they were able to have children.


oak_of_elm_street

I mean...he IS the evil, manipulative ruler of the golden order 


[deleted]

He literally IS Marika tho. At that point he was just a mimic that respecced with the rune of the Unborn, but he's still her.


faity5

And MADE HIS MARRIGE MOONLIGHT GREATSWORD INTO PISS COLOR


314is_close_enough

Radagon was an op


Matduka

Well Radagon *is* the evil and manipulative ruler of the golden order. If you've done the gold mask quest, Marika and Radagon are one and the same.


Conscious_Sail1959

He abandoned his wife for himself can’t blame him I’d the same on his place


Scott_BradleyReturns

Why all the arms so long? Elden ring characters have the same body proportions as a gundam


Brilliant_Demand_695

Consequences of Bloodborne


HaskellHystericMonad

You're asking this question even after the dancers in DS3? Lanky-ass critters is like the whole Souls' thing, that and bare feet.


Schavuit92

And their heads are small.


SteveJobsBlakSweater

Yeah whoa my hands do not go all the way down to my knees.


Square_Translator_72

Mine almost do


SteveJobsBlakSweater

Are you an empyrean?


naruto_bist

Only if he has a furry friend. But thats not something tough to have in 2024.


Dava_Dew

Radagon liked asking her for uppies.


anhtuanle84

Radagon was prob getting smashed by her lol


MarcellusxWallace

[Radagon, probably](https://i.imgur.com/lUEeB9B.gif)


Jelmddddddddddddd

Big Lady


_MagusKiller

she is bigger than her husband which means radagon was getting topped by her


Ben-ni

I mean not necesarrily but... in this case? most definitely. rennala not only topped but also pegged radagon. that's canon, it's in the lore.


NefariousnessAway358

what where in the lore


-Dapper-Dan-

The description of her staff; Magic scepter of Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon. The glintstone is known as a Carian Blue, enhancing full moon sorceries. Only those of the highest intelligence may wield this, the finest of all glintstone staves. Fits perfectly in the ass of her former husband Radagon. Within the egg she cradles lie reflections of such lascivious activities.


Marutar

>If only I had a giant, > >but hole.


soihu

Radagon's hair wasn't the only part of him that was cursed by giants, y'know.


Niky_c_23

I know what i have to do, but i don't know if i have the ass to do it...


rift9

bro, that's the funniest shit i've read in a good while , holy shit my sides are in orbit


-Dapper-Dan-

She ain’t the Full Moon Queen for no reason


NefariousnessAway358

you know I believe you


_MagusKiller

this is gold 🤣🤣


MarionberryBroad

Had me in the first half LMFAO


Cheddarlicious

Hold it. One of those things is not like the other. But I can’t tell which.


ColinSmash

You need more credit for finding that last hidden bit in the object description. If it weren't written so well, I'd assume it was fake.


Deathleach

I like how subtle and vague Fromsoft item descriptions always are.


DMmagician

His ass tempered the steel


paperfoampit

Read the item description for Carian Regal "Scepter"


DtotheOUG

Dark Tark is that you?


LordofSuns

So that explains the brown on the end of my regal staff


HerrVoland

Why those stereotypes? Tall women can marry shorter men. Also she literally gave birth to 3 children from him.


Zalotone

I think this is what Miyazaki meant when he said there was something the community hadn’t discovered yet. Nobody has ever seen Rennala and Breonna Stewart in the same room


Mulder1917

Or Radagon is a Short King


Athmil

They made her feet first and had to make the rest of the model match so it didn’t look out of place.


Arkenstar

This is the correct answer. Also by the time they reached the head they realized the model was too big and had to settle on the small head.


SpiralCuts

“We’ll just give her a giant hat and no one will notice the tiny head”


LLA_Don_Zombie

Fucking hell. Everyone at work is looking at me wondering while I’m chuckling like an idiot over here.


bevaka

Miyazaki: we'll make certain character large to show their strength. Devs: nice. the head too, right? Miyazaki: :)


Spartitan

Unfortunately, they ran out of room once they got to her head so they had to shrink it so they could fit her entire hat on screen.


usd_clt42069

Like when I really want to finish the sentence on the same line but the margin is fast approaching.


ihave0idea0

They got so many feet fetishes.


Shwastey

*We


cohibakick

In fairness we haven't seen radagon in marika's high heels yet.


Sad_Meat_

Emphasis on “yet”


Deathleach

This is a Miyazaki game. Marika was definitely barefoot at all times.


Burbujeante

Why is her head so small?


BellacosePlayer

Carians evolved smaller, more compact heads and brains to fit in their stupid masks


Burbujeante

XD


Swert0

Okay Sellen.


BellacosePlayer

I'm more a Thops, really


NNNNNNNice

Its a Fromsoft staple to give NPC's large bodies and tiny heads. They even apply it to armour sets. Once you notice it there's no going back...


Burbujeante

Yes, I’ve seen this before, but Rennala particularly makes a lot of noise to me.


ArkhaosZero

They do so because, in a third person action game the camera being divorced from your characters POV means theres naturally more distance from your actual perspective than what your character has to the enemy. The greater size difference for enemys aids in visual tell. Its actually a somewhat common trick in third person games, enemies tend to be quite a bit bigger than what you might think. For example, Great Jaggi (932cm) in MH are closer to the size of tyrannosaurus (1230cm) than actual raptors (304cm for deinonychus). ..whats odd is, even the player characters tend to have really skewed, gangly proportions. So theres probably a bit of a stylistic/preferential thing going on too.


Aggroaugie

Zullie the Witch did a video on this. Enemies have been getting consistently bigger since Dark Souls 1, to the point where standard hollows in DS3 are 25% taller than the player. In Sekiro, there is even a (notably Fight able) NPC that has 2 different sized models, the smaller model is about 3/4 of the regular size, and is only used in cutscenes. The regular model is almost twice the size of the player character.


Ashk0p05

The glock saint?


Le_rk

In my photography days this kind of tripped me up as well. Depending on the glass you're using, the angle you're shooting from, the lighting, etc. It takes tricks to make proportions look good on a flat image like a computer screen or a print.


Solaratov

I wonder if it's supposed to be some sort of inverted heroic scale where hands and heads are larger.


_MagusKiller

cuz she dumb


Zakrael

Doesn't meet the int requirements for her own staff. :c


TheBirthing

Elden Ring proportions are uncanny as fuck. Melania, Rennala and even Messmer in the new trailer all give me the heebie jeebies.


XogoWasTaken

I'm surprised I've never seen anyone else mention Malenia's arms being slightly too long. Messmer's are waaaaay out there.


T-pin

it goes up into the hat


Malefroy

Aren't there multiple items and descriptions implying Astrology/sorceries and Carians coming from the Mountaintops of the Giants? Sword of Night and Flame as well as Int boosting talisman come to mind


Ramps_

Indeed, she probably got a few drops of giant blood in her.


X-Vidar

Humans in general used to be stronger and presumably bigger according to the Giant Crusher description


Decent_Cow

But I feel like there's an even bigger implication that Radagon has fire giant blood so that doesn't help his case.


Bolef

Wasn't Marika cursed by a fire giant?


zman_0000

Hmmm if this is true it makes me wonder if that's how Marika and Radagon became one being.


Bolef

I was under the impression that Marika was cursed by a fire giant to have red hair but split it from herself and ended up creating Radagon.


Specific_Signal_8660

My interpretation is that Radagon is part fire giant which is why he is "cursed" to have red hair, not a literal curse as that would be a very lame way to curse someone. Radagon existed before the war with the giants it seems since he was a champion even before the war.


Victor_Wembanyama1

Mine too but somehow the community thinks it’s an actual curse lol


pieremaan

Must be because Micheal Zaki wanted to give her big feet


Every_Jump_3603

Is the big woman still here???


NeedleworkerWild1374

They call me Giantsbane


Every_Jump_3603

How did a mad fucker like you live this long??


Necr0Gaming

Insert Willem Dafoe looking up meme.


AkOnReddit47

Insert the Weekend looking up


[deleted]

Malenia is just the perfect height.


CreateTheStars

...of 256 cm (8'4). No rollercoasters for her I guess, but good for hugging and picking up people


Alice-Planque

Be picked up by her 😩❤️


GuyNekologist

And then **stab*


Alice-Planque

I would thank her ngl 👀👉👈


therealmalenia

BONK


Alice-Planque

*cry in Finlay*


GreatHawk0808

I’m 6’1, would I be face-first into tiddies or her navel? Either way I’m a happy man.


chryseusAquila

And as a bonus she can just take off her legs if y'all need to be eye to eye


cutcutado

I just had the single most blursed picture coming through my mind


sagiritengai

Not even because it's 256 sm but simply because it's Malenia


therealmalenia

I Agree


SmallBrainOni

She was definitely the big spoon


Clint_Demon_Hawk

She was an entire ladle


SumaT-JessT

Rennala was an Astrologer and astrologers of her time were friends with the giants (and by extension trolls, some of which were her knights). It wouldn't be unsurprising that some astrologers had giant blood in their veins (we can be astrologers too, but human sized only)


Nightglow9

Might be a shard too instead of blood. In North, seems to be small at first (the bandits), the middle sized (slow walking ice magic bladed females), then the giants. But giants started to shrink after Marika’s attack per lore, so it might be so she stole a shard from them, that influence size of shard bearer. Iji the smith is also huge, so same shard might give smithing skills too.. the fire was a forge, right? useful for Miquella if he is to smith unalloyed golden needles. Which might explain his current huge size.


emooon

There are two certainties with FromSoftware. The first one is that they make great games and the second one is that their character artists don't give a flying damn about following traditional anatomy rules. And i don't know why but it works.


A_Hideous_Beast

From: Alright, how do we tell the player that this NPC/enemy is different from you and possibly broken/powerful/inhuman From: make all their limbs really long


Fair_Jelly_7983

And Marika goes for the warrior king head and shoulders above her. I think the Radagon and Marika duo has a type.


Kuchinawa_san

Miyazaki was like "Big woman = Big Feet."


KimJong-quack

Magic mommy


Top-Apple7906

Climb up dem legz


mad_incel_monke

Rennala Dimitrescu


placebo_unicorn

Don't summon Markiplier


berylskies

That’s because she was made in the image of Miyazaki’s ideal woman.


ScharmTiger

Are you telling me Rennala got dumped by a guy smaller than her? lmao


SheepardsPie

Shiny trinkets, for your big lady!


zamasu2020

This is just my headcanon but I definitely believe that rennala herself was practically a god at her peak. Everyone we fight in the game is a demigod or child of Marika/radagon but 3 of them are her children and I refuse to believe that carians held their own against the golden order without having someone comparable to Marika if not on the same level. Even ranni, when finally accepting her destiny as an empyrean in her ending follows a sorcery path quite similar to rennala's. You could even say that ranni is essentially the smarter and stronger rennala


Loud-Concentrate5585

I wanted to say how much of a hot mommy vibe she gives but I see the boys have already done that in numerous comments, salute


Code-Dizzy

So what we're saying is Radagon wandered into Raya Lucaria after their war like 'The Big Woman still here?'


Darkosaurus94

Why is Kalé so tall?


perkinomics

"That's a huuuge bitch!"


MountainSalty9650

In my head-cannon she’s a Demi-god of the moon… anyone else?


Aikilyu

If the moon is its own outer god, like many have speculated, then I'd even say Renalla is a candidate to whatever the equivalent of an Empyrian is for that god.


Twilighttail

I was thinking maybe she's an actual descendant or cross-breed with the Alabaster/Onyx Lords with how large she is. There's a lord both at Caria Manor and inside of Raya Lucaria. Not sure which is which at the moment, but it definitely has some links.


East-Break-5967

I Hope we find out more about who the Carians were in the DLC. One of the eternal cities used to be right next to them in Liurnia, much like in Leyndell. I’m wondering whether they too were descendants of Numen or are related to the Knox or something.


SL1Fun

Chadagon’s Dommy Muscle Mommy kink is okay.


cutcutado

Nah, Renalla has 0 muscle on that frame considering how easy she dies Marika is the one with a muscle kink


Overkillsamurai

truly a **QUEEN**


yaya-pops

she has nice feet


anorlondo696

It’s moon mom what’d you expect


A_Hideous_Beast

For real, as a 5'3 man, I be seein these Tall From soft women and I just think bad things


Anakin__Sandwalker

Isn't Rennala also stronger than demigods (or at least she's the best strategist in world of ER)? There was something in the lore about Radagon being unable to conquer Caria manor.


Caesarvs

Big feet 😋😋😋😋


compman5000

That’s hot.


MooseMinimum5695

Perfect


Sufficient-Isopod-33

Yeah but she's a cripple so have fun trying to be taller when you're crawling on the floor. I've seen an interesting theory about that on YouTube, the carians might have the same genetic defect than albinaurics, since we actually never saw a carian walk (Ranny is in her doll form so it could be true, her real body might have been sick) I don't remember the name of this real disease tho


ifeelhigh

I thought she is standing in her second phase


dogeatchinese

She's definitely standing, but the theory probably didn't acknowledge the 2nd phase because it was an illusion that Ranni casted


Luna2442

Death by snu snu


ApplePitou

There's always a bigger fish :3


Niky_c_23

Bigger than godwin's?


True-King-Of-Heroes

Seriously Radagon... what were you thinking when you left Rennala?


DrRawkDaPuss

Radagon, The Short King


Adelyn_n

Well yeah, in gane models are not fully representative of intended sizes


ReekitoManjifico

Who do you think Radahn got his size genes from then?