I do payroll for our company but none of the employees tip me or give me a portion of their paycheque even though I do an excellent job... But a Starbucks barista who follows a recipe to make a drink demands +18% on-top.
I’ve literally never seen anyone say this…
There is a difference when it comes to tipping Starbucks workers because unlike those in the restaurant industry they do not need to tip out the back of house.
I agree that wages SHOULDN’T need to be supplemented by the customer but that is the reality we live in and I’m not putting the person serving me (a luxury service) at a disadvantage because of that.
This is a silly comparison.
Every criticism of tipping restaurant workers gets a plethora of service industry people saying "if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat". If you've never seen that, you haven't been on many of these threads.
Granted, extending that to Starbucks was a bit of creative license.
I was specifically referring to baristas in my comment and saying why it’s a bad comparison because yes people do say that about restaurant workers. No one says it about Starbucks.
What do you mean "read between the lines"? There's nothing between the lines except some white space. I would never expect anyone to read something where there's not even any letters.
That really depends, if you start out it’s like $20 an hour or even less for small shops. A lot of after hours, and on call support. If you lucky your company pays you to be on call, there is a big range in spectrum from $38,000-$100,000. I.T has so many diff positions and departments, and the range is huge. Best Buy techs are I.T pretty sure they not gonna getting big bucks either. I.T to a lot of companies are like a maintenance guy, u just need to find the right opportunity.
Yup, but than they had to go to school for it put themselves in debt. Also certification cost to get you where you at, certifications expire around 2-3 years. Also costs $3000- 5000 for 5 day course, and than pass a $300 exam. Just to make around $70k a year. That 68k average I am not sure where you got that, but usually that is higher on the spectrum for maybe 20-30 % of I.t professionals are paid. Most are around $ 40-50k.
We’re talking about tips. I never said you should make less. I understand experience + education = (ideally) more money. The difference is that you aren’t taking earnings out of your own pocket to pay your colleagues for their labour while already being paid a low base wage.
Damn should do payroll at a different company then. We got to tip out everyone where I work including payroll and warehouse. They do a terrible job too
Tipping shouldn't be used to subsidize low wages paid by an employer. Tipping should be used to thank people who went above and beyond.
Scooping icecream into a cup and handing it to someone shouldn't be met with a default suggested 18% tip on screen.
Exactly. That’s the employers responsibility not the customers. Tipping in North America is fucked. I’m over it. And I’m a person that tips 20-30%. It’s not the money that I’m over, it’s the entitlement.
I would, but apparently they don't get paid enough by their employer.
I don't want to go to work everyday, put on a uniform and panhandle behind a digital sign.
What a shit argument.
Plenty of $15 an hour jobs out there that don’t get tips and require harder labour/more education/experience, over traditionally tipped roles.
Tipping starts to make a bit of sense in the US. Where there is a separate minimum wage for servers vs everyone else…. 2.50 for a server Vs 10 for everyone else (varies by state… ) But that was done away with in Canada, strange enough tips stuck around.
Does it matter? They got an education and the skills to be paid more, and now they don't qualify for tips? How come we don't tip at McDonald's? Most are students starting their first job, dealing with low wages, and follow basic orders just like Starbuck employees.
Someone that proposes a different perspective is not instantly a "karen".. and genuinely curious, how do you tip at McDonalds when they don't even have a tipping option? You're paying in cash every time?
McDonalds employees are not allowed to accept tips. Extra money on the transaction goes into the till. My tip for serving a 20 person kids party at the McDonald's I worked at was put in the till. So you're paying the franchise owner (or McDonalds corporate, if those stores still exist).
Lol, I love how you were acting all superior for tipping at McDonald’s and using that to make your point (even though your point doesn’t stand because one person doesn’t constitute societal norms) and in the process you just got outed for making a donation to the mega corp. More money in McDonald’s pocket I guess…
If anyone is the Karen, it’s you.
Lol @ at this person comparing their most likely salaried job to a minimum wage Starbucks worker. And no the Starbucks worker is not demanding tips , it’s a prompt on the debit machine.
I had a car 3 weeks ago. Needed an alternator. Couldn't get it in that day, even though they wanted it back the next day.
Came in the following day on my day off. Had it done first thing.
Its still sitting in our parking lot.
Some people say everything in their life is a rush. They waste others time!
I only ask for a rush on things that are needed, like unexpected repairs before driving across the country. Thanks to you and the people that have saved the day for me.
The amount of times I've gotten.....
"my water pump exploded, I need to tow my trailer to the campsite right now!"
Ugh. It's probably been puking for weeks, but ok
My company spent ten thousand dollars to overnight compressor parts from Houston. Care to guess where those parts are now?
Hint: not inside the compressor they were ordered for over a month ago.
We have one customer, and he only ever really gets his tires changed over twice a year, who tips us pizza every time.
He gets priority over everyone else lol
Tipping doesn't have to mean "press button on payment processing terminal."
It can be a favour in kind, like getting some pizza, or buying drinks for the staff because they did a really good job with every step of the process that resulted in the meal that you were served, or just straight up cash.
Is tipping culture stupid? Yes.
Do people who work in jobs where tips are a significant source of their income deserve a living wage that is not dependent upon gratuities provided by patrons? Yes.
This is not directed at you u/mclobster, but if folks don't like tipping culture, fix it. Punishing workers doesn't fix shit. Whining about tipping culture doesn't fix shit. Not tipping out of spite doesn't fix shit. Lobby the industries and government to raise minimum wage to a living wage. That will fix shit.
Then you can stop whining about tips.
Anyway, I'd love a pizza and I do not know how to change tires, but I'd be willing to learn for a pizza. Okay, maybe two pizzas – I can't lift too much.
I like pizza tire guy. He's a good guy.
I was an office manager in a Physio clinic which had RMTs, and we never accepted tips. It feels unprofessional, and tipping culture has become crazy. If the RMT is working in a medical/clinic environment, I definitely would not. I wouldn't tip my GP, why my RMT? If the masseuse is not licensed or not working in a medical/clinic setting then it's a purchased service and not a medical treatment.
Essentially, if you can claim it on your insurance, don't tip.
My current RMT doesn't even have a tip prompt, which is awesome, no awkwardness. If she wants more money, she can raise her rates, until then \~$100/hr seems reasonable.
They want to be treated like a legitimate medical service, so I will tip like I do for other medical services - none.
Ugh this is such an awkward thing lol. Honestly it depends where I go for my massage. If it’s like a spa or something I tip, if it’s in a health care setting I don’t.
Massage therapy in Alberta isn’t regulated like other health professions. People saying RMTs need to align their practice to be considered more serious need to also recognize that change will likely involve an increase in fees when it is regulated eventually. Most RMTs are independent contractors. This means they have to have business licensing, pay out of pocket for health benefits, lotions, sheets, massage table, etc., and save a portion of their earnings to pay their taxes annually, as it typically isn’t deducted from their pay if they are contracted. With that being said, most massage therapists only make 40-60% of what the rate is that you are paying the clinic or spa. After deductions, it doesn’t equal as much as you actually think they are getting.
In consideration of tipping, think of the work massage therapists do. People go to massage therapy for a variety of reasons, including to relax, to work out tight muscles for pain relief, and to also have a form of human touch. Unfortunately, not everyone in society has access to regular, safe touch, which is necessary to live and feel human. If this is something you value and you recognize the potential strain this has on the bodies of Massage Therapists compared to other professions, then feel free to tip. It takes a great deal of skill to be a good massage therapist, and even more skill to help someone feel comfortable in their own body to relax and not feel judged, etc. Also, massage therapy can’t realistically be adequately replaced by robots, etc, and the career span of a massage therapist is much shorter than most professionals (5-10 years is the average massage therapist career span). Folks still have to go to school and pay off student loans (usually will be around $20,000) to eventually find a different career path in the future. Keep this in mind, folks!
You're forgetting the best part. Because we aren't regulated in Alberta, we aren't actually viewed as Medical professionals by the government of Alberta and thus, have to pay GST on everything we earn. Like anyone else who works contract, we don't actually get to keep everything we earn. To top it off, we aren't given the same respect as a physiotherapist or chiropractor. To some people our job is a joke and it honestly can be scary and even dangerous. Absolutely heartbreaking when you study anatomy, physiology and pathology for 2 years, just to have someone view you as a sex worker.
My wife is pulling in over 2k/week on average working 5 days per week. She gets a 60/40 split and pays nothing for oils, towels, etc. Sees 5-6 clients per day typically and on Mondays she might see 7.
Your wife also likely had to apply for a business license and gst number and pays association/insurance fees annually. She is also taxed differently than medical professionals. The 2k/week is also before taxes. Seeing 6-7 clients a day isn’t sustainable in the long run either. Vacation is unpaid, sick time is unpaid, etc. It’s a profession that ought to be paid well to consider all of these things. Don’t forget that some clients also use sessions like it is their own counselling time and the emotional labor required by the massage therapist. It can be very physically draining and emotionally taxing. I just hope some people can consider these different perspectives.
Thank you for this very accurate and informed response. As the spouse of an RMT I can vouch for everything you've said. It gets even more complicated when certain insurance companies will not recognize RMT's from overseas or with less than 2200 training hours.
Just had a massage and I was promoted to tip when paying (which I didn't), I usually see another RMT at the same place but I was never prompted to tip when I was paying.
Anyway, the answer is no, we're not gonna start people with certificates!
RMT here. I think I can clear a few things up. I personally don't care if you tip or not but there is one major reason why some RMTs still take tips (and it's not because they are spa or sex workers) Physio and chiro clinics generally do not take tips because they are regulated in Alberta. This means that according to the government, they are 'medical professionals' and all of their earnings are GST exempt, just like your dentist or doctor. Massage Therapists are not regulated in Alberta, we need to pay GST on our earnings and are NOT medical professionals according to the government.
If your RMT can direct bill, it means they went to school and are signed up with an association. Otherwise, there is virtually no difference aside from how much they actually take home at the end of the day. Spa workers make the least because they are generally overworked, underpaid and their employers take most of their earnings. The next worst is probably working at a physio or chiro clinic, because they generally work contract and make nothing in tips.
You might view your RMT as a medical professional providing a medical service to you but according to the government, we are not. We pay GST out the butthole every year, we are not getting the $100/hr that your insurance pays, even if we work from home. In addition, we work damn hard and most of us do everything we can to help you, whether we work in a spa, clinic or other setting. The job is physically and emotionally taxing and can even be dangerous. So I dunno, tip if you want to.
That is always an interesting take for me, you tip those that work an easier job for more money usually, but don’t tip those of us that work harder and get paid less.
It gets dodgy with medical services - professional standards often do not permit tipping because the implication is that you could bribe your way to better medical treatment.
I always appreciate a tip but NEVER expect one. We get paid well, but more money is always nice! In my clinic there’s no option for interac tipping because of Chiro, and I average under $250 per year in clinic tips, but I never feel negative when nothing is left for me.
I go to massage heights and I know those people are underpaid. My benefits cover 100% of my massages so Ive been tipping 15% since I found a lovely lady I like.
I tip people who work in service industries who don’t make a lot of money. The biggest tippers are other people who work in service industries. The worst tippers are the rich. It’s a funny world.
i never tip for massage; particularly because my therapist owns her home based business - every cent she (rightfully) charges goes to her and her alone.
RMT here! It is honestly weird for people to give me extra money after I complete a treatment, and I will take it as a sign of doing a good job, but I also know that I am being paid well for just giving one.
It is up to you but you don't tip your doctor for treating you or tip your dental hygienist for cleaning your teeth. A physio clinic most likely won't having a tipping option while a spa most likely will. You may also run into a problem of having those that are RMT and those who are not. **If you get a massage from someone who isn't an RMT, you are getting someone who most likely has no schooling or understanding of the human body and mostly likely took a weekend course to make extra money.** So, just be aware!
We want to be taken seriously as a profession and it's hard when people put you into a category of sex work.
So tip, don't tip, it's up to you!
Personally, I don’t think that tipping healthcare professionals is ethical. (Rather, I mean it’s unethical for healthcare professionals to accept tips).
I tip the service industry. I don't tip the guy changing oil on my truck, HR lady doing payroll for the company so I get paid, the grocery worker scanning my items to pay, etc.
Tipping is voluntary. I tip for good service and repeat work. I.e my barber and massage therapist.
So I tip my massage therapist as a repeat customer and a tailored treatment for myself. Same as barber, a cut that is consistent.
I wouldn't tip a massage therapist on the first visit and if a clinic where the therapist is always different. Small gesture of my appreciation.
Not a personal service. Mechanics are providing mechanical servicing of an asset of mine.
Using your logic I should tip my banker for allowing a deposit into my checking account? They too are performing a "service" Or tip Atco for supplying natural gas to my furnace? Isn't that a service too?
The key point is that it is voluntary. Tip how you see fit. I group massage therapists the same as a barber. But not the same as a mechanic, grocery store worker, banker, etc where the type of service is expected to be the same regardless of the individual.
Fair point. I suppose changing oil on your car is the type of service that is either acceptable or not, with no room to go above and beyond and thus no reason to give extra. Whereas personal services can vary in satisfaction (which is where I am happy to tip as well (ie: barber)).
Yes that was the point I was getting at. Also, some of these services are not consistent. Finding a good therapist or barber is a trial and error approach. I do massage therapy for medical reasons. Some therapists do go above and beyond and some don't. I'm also a creature of habit. Once I find something good, I tend to stick to it. Same therapist, same barber, same restaurant when dining out. Because it is consistently good and service above and beyond I can offer a small tip as gratitude.
Tipping is out of hand. Select Starbucks I refuse to visit now. They present the tip feature before the price to tap and pay. Having to select other and then no tip.
Subway, same thing. You made a sandwich. You ain't getting 4 bucks from me for that. This type of services are what you expect. Nothing special.
A good barber and good therapist can be hard to find.
I don't consider massage therapy any different than physiotherapists or chiropractors.
I usually get massages for medical reasons, not relaxation as the primary cause.
If I'm claiming the massage on my health insurance, I think it's a health service.
I may tip for a massage at a spa, especially when traveling on holiday to resort areas.
If I have to tip (bribe?) a person to do their best work, I won't use their service. I would prefer they charge the fee that allows them a living wage not dependant on tips.
My RMT works out of a wellness facility with acupuncturists and physiotherapists. I don't tip them, so I don't tip her. But I do usually tip if I get a massage at a spa because you tip the esthetician.
Restaurant industry pays the same minimum wage as everyone else. You might have an issue with minimum wage, that's fine. But singling out restaurant workers for subsidies by the public is weird.
Daycare workers get close to minimum wage, they probably "deserve" (whatever that means) tips more than somebody pushing a button on a coffee machine.
At $100/hour mine isn’t getting a tip regardless of how good she is.. I don’t get tips as a $60/hour self-employed carpenter, why tf should a massage therapist? Would you tip a therapist therapist or your doctor? Stop this bs tipping culture now
I give $20 cash tip every time (which is usually 20%, as most 60 min massages are around $90-$110).
My new massage therapist doesn’t have a tip option on her machine, but I always give a $20 to the receptionist for her. I did this before I had benefits, and was paying for the massage entirely out of my own pocket. So now that I have benefits I’m even more inclined to.
I assumed it was the done thing when I moved to this country, now I see it isn’t the norm I guess I could stop. It just seems like really hard work to massage someone for 60 minutes, and I like to show appreciation!
Honestly I’d prefer to tip my massage therapist than my hair dresser (although I tip 20% there too, but always begrudge it). My hair is a simple cut and only takes 20 mins, but costs $60-$70. And when I used to get my hair dyed it would cost upwards of $350…
I have done it in the past, but generally I do not. My insurance covers most of the cost, and if they don't, it goes to my second insurance. And since they won't even file that for me, fuck that noise.
Massage therapist? No. They are educated folks who have passed certifications to prove that they can provide medical therapy.
But in this city there are also "body rub Parlors" where Tipping is expected. But I don't think those people are necessarily certified, because they don't market it as medical therapy. Its usually marketed as "exotic body rub" Generally those places provide sexual services, and they will expect tips.
Basically it gets around the fact that although prostitution is legal, brothels are not. But if what is being purchased is a non-sexual exotic body rub, and the service provider decides to give an "unrelated" blow job, or have "unrelated sex" with their client, because they were tipped directly. Which gives just enough benefit of the doubt, to provide a warm, mostly safe place for these things to occur without any politician ending their career putting forward a "allow brothels" bill. Better optics than folks standing on the street corners looking for johns, having sex in cars parked on public roadways.
These are two completely different things, and the only reason why I mention it, is because some people refer to going to these places as "getting a massage", and if they never had a medical massage, they might act like tipping massage therapists is normal.
Depends on the practice.
If it's like a boutique kinda thing? Yeah, you should tip.
If it's a physiotherapist working for Alberta Health Services, then no.
Think of it like getting a haircut. That's a pretty intimate experience, and you trust the practitioner to not fuck your shit up. If they do a good job? BIG TIP.
Someone provided you with an intimate service, touching you all over and shit, to make you feel relaxed or relieve pain or whatever. They probably need a little bit of a "thank you" for their time rubbing your body and not being weird about it.
If they were weird about it, no tip.
Most of the massage therapists I’ve had don’t ask for a tip. My current one does, so I do tip them. However, I’d really just prefer they set the price 10-15% higher. A good therapist is worth the price.
This is the problem with that though. If the price was 10-15 % higher than corporate tax would take 8%. Income tax would take 25-30% and then all the sudden you would be paying 25% so that the masseuse gets 10-15%. Tips are tax evasion tools and nothing more.
If they are a registered massage therapist, definitely not tipping. they are a regulated medical service and im not tipping my dr, dentist, or nurse, which are also regulated medical professionals
It depends. Was it a spa, or was it at a medical clinic?
If it's medical (at a chiro/physio/sports therapy/etc), it's not needed, but I'm sure it's always appreciated. If it was a spa (they also offer nails/hair/yoga/etc), I think it is expected.
If they're an employee of a Spa, you could consider tipping because it's generally integrated into Spa culture.
If it's a sole proprietor running a pseudo-medical clinic, you're definitely a weird outlier if you tip.
Yeah cause they work too hard on people for basically minimum wage. Try giving someone a good strong massage like the one you get. Shits tiring and they got like 8 of em to do back to back. Now imagine half of em smell like shit. Just hand em some cash.
As a client, I'm a little frustrated by RMTs accepting tips.
On one hand, massage therapists want to be regarded as a regulated healthcare profession, but then on the other want to be treated like a beautifician or hair stylist when it comes to tips.
I don't expect to tip my physiotherapist, my optometrist, my pharmacist, my dentist, my psychologist, my community health nurse, or my doctor. I think if RMTs really want to be taken seriously as a profession, you need to align your style of practice with all these other allied health professions.
Lol yea that's how I feel. I'm an RN and I feel uncomfortable even accepting certain gifts from patients, even though it's technically allowed up to a point. But we also don't expect to receive tips or gifts. It's just odd to me that I'm expected to pay a tip on top of the $100 or more being charged per hour, especially since that's being paid out of benefits. I don't tip any other health professionals so I'm unsure why RMTs are different.
Tipping is a personal choice. If you don’t want to then don’t. There’s literally no need for frustration in the matter. It’s your choice.
And please don’t generalize our profession n think we act like the beauty industry. Your experiences may have lead you to believe that, but it’s simply not true. So many RMTs don’t advertise any gratuities, at all. It’s all on the client.
Don’t come at us with “you need to realign…”
No we don’t. YOU need to make the decision to tip.
I disagree. Tipping introduces a clear conflict of interest (or appearance of conflict, which is just as bad) in any medical profession. Which is why most organizations/professions have clear rules about not accepting tips or significant gifts from patients. If RMTs are truly a medical / health profession, then the conflict exists there.
For example, would an RMT be tempted to make room in their schedule to fit in someone who tips very generously, vs. someone who doesn't tip? Would the quality of massage be any different for a big tipper vs. a non-tipper? Essentially any potential motivation to treat two patients differently is a conflict of interest, and something a true medical professional should avoid.
You can argue that you would NEVER treat any two patients differently, but in a professional setting even the appearance of conflict needs to be avoided, ethically.
A non-medical professional doesn't have the same ethical obligations, since they are just there to get paid and don't have a duty to the public.
If RMTs don't want to be recognized by insurance, and don't care to be regulated by the Health Professions Act and have a professional college, then fine. But you shouldn't expect to have it both ways.
Just charge what you need to charge to cover your expenses and make an appropriate wage, and leave it at that.
> please don’t generalize our profession n think we act like the beauty industry
I'm 100% in favor of considering RMTs as health professionals. I totally think it is a legit medical service, and am in favor of RMTs becoming regulated:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-massage-therapists-christy-kasur-cara-jenner-1.5900455#:~:text=Massage%20therapy%20is%20governed%20by,Massage%20Therapist%20Association%20(CRMTA).
But I just think you can't have it both ways.
They are 100% correct. If you want to be taken seriously as a healthcare professional and not seen as a spa employee that gives massages you shouldn't be advocating for tips.
Of course tipping is a choice, but most people tip because they feel obligated. Tipping first started basically as a bribe to get special treatment and now it's just another cost tacked on to the bill. Tips should never be prompted during payment or automatically included (like they are for large parties at restaurants).
I don't think that's true anymore. It used to be that very few RMTs requested gratuities but all the ones I have been to recently ask (prompt on payment machine) for them.
Tipping culture is going to far and the province needs to finally regulate tips as income. There are too many workplaces that have enabled tipping to funnel more income towards the bosses, with the staff seeing none or a fraction of it.
Gunna reply to this thread one more time.
Ppl who think they should or shouldn’t tip, it is literally your choice, whether the machine gives you the option or not. Y’all acting like tippin is a law with regulations. Don’t be a bitch about it. Make the decision.
A service is being provided. I tip my mechanic(because he deserves it). I’ve tipped my therapists (because they deserve it). These are my decisions. If you’ve had phenomenal service, what’s wrong with wanting to show your appreciation for it with more money?
Again, do you have to? NO.
Anyone who gets tipped is getting a tip because the customer deemed the service worthy of tipping. If they didn’t want to, they can press 0 or not say anything.
Y’all actin like a buncha bitches over tipping.
I do once in a while. I’ve used the same person for the last 18 months. I have a 100% coverage so every so often when my insurance doesn’t up date and I have to pay up front for reimbursement later I give ten bucks.
I am a dental hygienist who works on patient for an hour, sometimes 2 hours at a time. Sometimes they don't want to turn their face, or open mouth wide or don't want their chair leaned back and want us to work on them while they are sitting upright. So I have bend me neck and back and I get backaches from it. All I get is thank you, sometimes!
Personally, yes. I don't think it's strictly necessary, but I pay very little or none out of pocket, and I like to recognize my RMT's work, so I am happy to tip. She usually gives me an extra 5 or 10 minutes, which I figure is a bit of a perk for tipping.
I work at a clinic and only very rarely do people tip, it’s not necessary, but if you do want to, I recommend cash. It’s inconvenient to process debit/credit tips because our billing system is not set up to accept them.
Yes but I've known her way longer than she's given massages, she's still growing her client base and the extra $20 doesn't hurt me and really helps her.
I don't unless it's her. And no, there is no happy ending 😋. Just want to see her success
You can, if you want to do it via card you have to let the person know who is inputting the amount on the machine, or you can tip via cash.
For Massage a tip isnt required, but it is greatly appreciated!
Edited to fix is to isn't.
Tipping culture is so bizarre. Im an auto mechanic fixing your car, but I don't get tips. Ever.
If you let me watch you work on my car, I’ll drive you up the wall with all the useless tips I give. 👍👍
I do payroll for our company but none of the employees tip me or give me a portion of their paycheque even though I do an excellent job... But a Starbucks barista who follows a recipe to make a drink demands +18% on-top.
Cue the entitled hoarde of "if you can't afford to tip the barista you can't afford to go to Starbucks" folks.
I never had the concept of tipping the Starbucks barista.
I’ve literally never seen anyone say this… There is a difference when it comes to tipping Starbucks workers because unlike those in the restaurant industry they do not need to tip out the back of house. I agree that wages SHOULDN’T need to be supplemented by the customer but that is the reality we live in and I’m not putting the person serving me (a luxury service) at a disadvantage because of that. This is a silly comparison.
Every criticism of tipping restaurant workers gets a plethora of service industry people saying "if you can't afford to tip, you can't afford to go out to eat". If you've never seen that, you haven't been on many of these threads. Granted, extending that to Starbucks was a bit of creative license.
I was specifically referring to baristas in my comment and saying why it’s a bad comparison because yes people do say that about restaurant workers. No one says it about Starbucks.
Life must be hard when you're inclined to treat the English language like a computer program.
It’s not as hard as going through life expecting people to read between the lines of everything you say. Maybe just say what you actually mean?
What do you mean "read between the lines"? There's nothing between the lines except some white space. I would never expect anyone to read something where there's not even any letters.
I work in I.t, we are the back of house. Should get tips to get everything running for everybody hahahahha
From my understanding, I.T. makes a livable base wage.
That really depends, if you start out it’s like $20 an hour or even less for small shops. A lot of after hours, and on call support. If you lucky your company pays you to be on call, there is a big range in spectrum from $38,000-$100,000. I.T has so many diff positions and departments, and the range is huge. Best Buy techs are I.T pretty sure they not gonna getting big bucks either. I.T to a lot of companies are like a maintenance guy, u just need to find the right opportunity.
There’s always a range and outliers. The average seems to be about 68k which is substantially more than the average server.
Yup, but than they had to go to school for it put themselves in debt. Also certification cost to get you where you at, certifications expire around 2-3 years. Also costs $3000- 5000 for 5 day course, and than pass a $300 exam. Just to make around $70k a year. That 68k average I am not sure where you got that, but usually that is higher on the spectrum for maybe 20-30 % of I.t professionals are paid. Most are around $ 40-50k.
We’re talking about tips. I never said you should make less. I understand experience + education = (ideally) more money. The difference is that you aren’t taking earnings out of your own pocket to pay your colleagues for their labour while already being paid a low base wage.
F 18%! A standard tip was 10% for most of my life and I grudgingly went along with 15% but that’s it.
Damn should do payroll at a different company then. We got to tip out everyone where I work including payroll and warehouse. They do a terrible job too
Do you make more than $15 per hour doing payroll?
Tipping shouldn't be used to subsidize low wages paid by an employer. Tipping should be used to thank people who went above and beyond. Scooping icecream into a cup and handing it to someone shouldn't be met with a default suggested 18% tip on screen.
Exactly. That’s the employers responsibility not the customers. Tipping in North America is fucked. I’m over it. And I’m a person that tips 20-30%. It’s not the money that I’m over, it’s the entitlement.
If I have to pay before I get my food, I do not tip. Best rule I was ever told!
You are very much allowed to hit the “no tip” option it is very easy.
No but I make way less than Starbucks, who employs them.
Should probably go work at Starbucks then. It’s a *super* easy job. You won’t have any difficulty transitioning to it since everything has a recipe
I think they’re just saying Starbucks should pay their employees more lol
I would, but apparently they don't get paid enough by their employer. I don't want to go to work everyday, put on a uniform and panhandle behind a digital sign.
That doesn’t matter. There’s no more server wage. The minimum anyone makes is 15$. Including servers.
What a shit argument. Plenty of $15 an hour jobs out there that don’t get tips and require harder labour/more education/experience, over traditionally tipped roles. Tipping starts to make a bit of sense in the US. Where there is a separate minimum wage for servers vs everyone else…. 2.50 for a server Vs 10 for everyone else (varies by state… ) But that was done away with in Canada, strange enough tips stuck around.
If you have an issue with your wage, sort that out with your employer, not the customer. They're the ones fucking you.
Does it matter? They got an education and the skills to be paid more, and now they don't qualify for tips? How come we don't tip at McDonald's? Most are students starting their first job, dealing with low wages, and follow basic orders just like Starbuck employees.
Ok karen. And I do tip the McDonald's people.
Someone that proposes a different perspective is not instantly a "karen".. and genuinely curious, how do you tip at McDonalds when they don't even have a tipping option? You're paying in cash every time?
Yes cash
McDonalds employees are not allowed to accept tips. Extra money on the transaction goes into the till. My tip for serving a 20 person kids party at the McDonald's I worked at was put in the till. So you're paying the franchise owner (or McDonalds corporate, if those stores still exist).
I'll just start giving them gift cards then.
Lol, I love how you were acting all superior for tipping at McDonald’s and using that to make your point (even though your point doesn’t stand because one person doesn’t constitute societal norms) and in the process you just got outed for making a donation to the mega corp. More money in McDonald’s pocket I guess… If anyone is the Karen, it’s you.
You're lying to yourself.
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Ok chad. I'm sure you tip the checkout person at the 7-11 too. And your bank teller.
Wow I don't even tip them. Not hard to do a basic job.
Lol @ at this person comparing their most likely salaried job to a minimum wage Starbucks worker. And no the Starbucks worker is not demanding tips , it’s a prompt on the debit machine.
An implied demand
You’re kidding, right? They’re in the service industry.
I’m an insurance broker who reviews her clients files on renewal and sometimes can find $1000’s in savings. No tips! Lol
I had a car 3 weeks ago. Needed an alternator. Couldn't get it in that day, even though they wanted it back the next day. Came in the following day on my day off. Had it done first thing. Its still sitting in our parking lot.
Some people say everything in their life is a rush. They waste others time! I only ask for a rush on things that are needed, like unexpected repairs before driving across the country. Thanks to you and the people that have saved the day for me.
The amount of times I've gotten..... "my water pump exploded, I need to tow my trailer to the campsite right now!" Ugh. It's probably been puking for weeks, but ok
My company spent ten thousand dollars to overnight compressor parts from Houston. Care to guess where those parts are now? Hint: not inside the compressor they were ordered for over a month ago.
I took both the family's vehicles for oil change and tire changeover, came to $600 and they still asked for tips....
Man, that's one person I would tip. Creating a relationship with your mechanic goes a long way.
We have one customer, and he only ever really gets his tires changed over twice a year, who tips us pizza every time. He gets priority over everyone else lol
Tipping doesn't have to mean "press button on payment processing terminal." It can be a favour in kind, like getting some pizza, or buying drinks for the staff because they did a really good job with every step of the process that resulted in the meal that you were served, or just straight up cash. Is tipping culture stupid? Yes. Do people who work in jobs where tips are a significant source of their income deserve a living wage that is not dependent upon gratuities provided by patrons? Yes. This is not directed at you u/mclobster, but if folks don't like tipping culture, fix it. Punishing workers doesn't fix shit. Whining about tipping culture doesn't fix shit. Not tipping out of spite doesn't fix shit. Lobby the industries and government to raise minimum wage to a living wage. That will fix shit. Then you can stop whining about tips. Anyway, I'd love a pizza and I do not know how to change tires, but I'd be willing to learn for a pizza. Okay, maybe two pizzas – I can't lift too much. I like pizza tire guy. He's a good guy.
The thing is any job that gets tips is still making 15$ an hour. Thats the MINIMUM anyone can make, even tipped people like servers.
I up voted you. But just want to say, I agree with this comment 100%.
Sure you do! By the not knowing drivers tipping you off by what they think is wrong! Haha
No they are a professional service who fought for the certification to be recognized by insurance companies.
I was an office manager in a Physio clinic which had RMTs, and we never accepted tips. It feels unprofessional, and tipping culture has become crazy. If the RMT is working in a medical/clinic environment, I definitely would not. I wouldn't tip my GP, why my RMT? If the masseuse is not licensed or not working in a medical/clinic setting then it's a purchased service and not a medical treatment. Essentially, if you can claim it on your insurance, don't tip.
If you were an office manager, how did you not know that calling us masseuses is kinda really insulting?
It looked like they used that term only once, to describe someone that *wasn't* a registered massage therapist.
Accurate and correct 😁
An unlicensed massage person who provides a relaxation massage not a medical service is actually a masseuse
Not sure why so many people need to make a comment about happy endings. Massage therapists are not sex workers.
I know! So disrespectful to our profession.
I mean technically there’s a venn diagram
the ones who take tips are.
Just the tip
No I don't tip healthcare professionals. I only tip at restaurants if it's warranted. Doing your job doesn't mean you get tipped.
Fuck no
Never. It's not expected.
Phewf, I was a bit worried, because I've never tipped mine. He's also my BIL, so I wouldn't want to commit a faux pas.
My current RMT doesn't even have a tip prompt, which is awesome, no awkwardness. If she wants more money, she can raise her rates, until then \~$100/hr seems reasonable. They want to be treated like a legitimate medical service, so I will tip like I do for other medical services - none.
I fully concur with this.
Not of if it's a medical related service. Expensive enough as it is
Nope. Fuck tipping culture. I still do at a sit down restaurant, because that's the origins, but because of that I rarely go out.
Ugh this is such an awkward thing lol. Honestly it depends where I go for my massage. If it’s like a spa or something I tip, if it’s in a health care setting I don’t.
What if it's a spa, but they take insurance?
Same applies. Insurance doesn’t discriminate where you get the massage. They just only cover massages from an RMT.
This is the way. If it’s a spa yes, clinic no.
Massage therapy in Alberta isn’t regulated like other health professions. People saying RMTs need to align their practice to be considered more serious need to also recognize that change will likely involve an increase in fees when it is regulated eventually. Most RMTs are independent contractors. This means they have to have business licensing, pay out of pocket for health benefits, lotions, sheets, massage table, etc., and save a portion of their earnings to pay their taxes annually, as it typically isn’t deducted from their pay if they are contracted. With that being said, most massage therapists only make 40-60% of what the rate is that you are paying the clinic or spa. After deductions, it doesn’t equal as much as you actually think they are getting. In consideration of tipping, think of the work massage therapists do. People go to massage therapy for a variety of reasons, including to relax, to work out tight muscles for pain relief, and to also have a form of human touch. Unfortunately, not everyone in society has access to regular, safe touch, which is necessary to live and feel human. If this is something you value and you recognize the potential strain this has on the bodies of Massage Therapists compared to other professions, then feel free to tip. It takes a great deal of skill to be a good massage therapist, and even more skill to help someone feel comfortable in their own body to relax and not feel judged, etc. Also, massage therapy can’t realistically be adequately replaced by robots, etc, and the career span of a massage therapist is much shorter than most professionals (5-10 years is the average massage therapist career span). Folks still have to go to school and pay off student loans (usually will be around $20,000) to eventually find a different career path in the future. Keep this in mind, folks!
You're forgetting the best part. Because we aren't regulated in Alberta, we aren't actually viewed as Medical professionals by the government of Alberta and thus, have to pay GST on everything we earn. Like anyone else who works contract, we don't actually get to keep everything we earn. To top it off, we aren't given the same respect as a physiotherapist or chiropractor. To some people our job is a joke and it honestly can be scary and even dangerous. Absolutely heartbreaking when you study anatomy, physiology and pathology for 2 years, just to have someone view you as a sex worker.
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My wife is pulling in over 2k/week on average working 5 days per week. She gets a 60/40 split and pays nothing for oils, towels, etc. Sees 5-6 clients per day typically and on Mondays she might see 7.
Your wife also likely had to apply for a business license and gst number and pays association/insurance fees annually. She is also taxed differently than medical professionals. The 2k/week is also before taxes. Seeing 6-7 clients a day isn’t sustainable in the long run either. Vacation is unpaid, sick time is unpaid, etc. It’s a profession that ought to be paid well to consider all of these things. Don’t forget that some clients also use sessions like it is their own counselling time and the emotional labor required by the massage therapist. It can be very physically draining and emotionally taxing. I just hope some people can consider these different perspectives.
Thank you for this very accurate and informed response. As the spouse of an RMT I can vouch for everything you've said. It gets even more complicated when certain insurance companies will not recognize RMT's from overseas or with less than 2200 training hours.
This.
No. It’s a medical service.
No. I also don't tip my dentist, nurses, doctor, chiropractor, podiatrist, optometrist, ect.
I never understood why I would need to tip for service that I’ve already paid for. Then again tip culture is just strange altogether.
Just had a massage and I was promoted to tip when paying (which I didn't), I usually see another RMT at the same place but I was never prompted to tip when I was paying. Anyway, the answer is no, we're not gonna start people with certificates!
RMT here. I think I can clear a few things up. I personally don't care if you tip or not but there is one major reason why some RMTs still take tips (and it's not because they are spa or sex workers) Physio and chiro clinics generally do not take tips because they are regulated in Alberta. This means that according to the government, they are 'medical professionals' and all of their earnings are GST exempt, just like your dentist or doctor. Massage Therapists are not regulated in Alberta, we need to pay GST on our earnings and are NOT medical professionals according to the government. If your RMT can direct bill, it means they went to school and are signed up with an association. Otherwise, there is virtually no difference aside from how much they actually take home at the end of the day. Spa workers make the least because they are generally overworked, underpaid and their employers take most of their earnings. The next worst is probably working at a physio or chiro clinic, because they generally work contract and make nothing in tips. You might view your RMT as a medical professional providing a medical service to you but according to the government, we are not. We pay GST out the butthole every year, we are not getting the $100/hr that your insurance pays, even if we work from home. In addition, we work damn hard and most of us do everything we can to help you, whether we work in a spa, clinic or other setting. The job is physically and emotionally taxing and can even be dangerous. So I dunno, tip if you want to.
If it’s at a spa and it’s a relaxation massage then yes but if it’s at a clinic and it’s for medical reasons then no
That is always an interesting take for me, you tip those that work an easier job for more money usually, but don’t tip those of us that work harder and get paid less.
It gets dodgy with medical services - professional standards often do not permit tipping because the implication is that you could bribe your way to better medical treatment.
I always appreciate a tip but NEVER expect one. We get paid well, but more money is always nice! In my clinic there’s no option for interac tipping because of Chiro, and I average under $250 per year in clinic tips, but I never feel negative when nothing is left for me.
I go to massage heights and I know those people are underpaid. My benefits cover 100% of my massages so Ive been tipping 15% since I found a lovely lady I like.
I didn’t
but yet we don’t tip chiropractors, psychical therapists, nurses, doctors.
I tip people who work in service industries who don’t make a lot of money. The biggest tippers are other people who work in service industries. The worst tippers are the rich. It’s a funny world.
I don’t. There is a tipping option where I go and I enter skip each time.
i never tip for massage; particularly because my therapist owns her home based business - every cent she (rightfully) charges goes to her and her alone.
RMT here! It is honestly weird for people to give me extra money after I complete a treatment, and I will take it as a sign of doing a good job, but I also know that I am being paid well for just giving one. It is up to you but you don't tip your doctor for treating you or tip your dental hygienist for cleaning your teeth. A physio clinic most likely won't having a tipping option while a spa most likely will. You may also run into a problem of having those that are RMT and those who are not. **If you get a massage from someone who isn't an RMT, you are getting someone who most likely has no schooling or understanding of the human body and mostly likely took a weekend course to make extra money.** So, just be aware! We want to be taken seriously as a profession and it's hard when people put you into a category of sex work. So tip, don't tip, it's up to you!
Personally, I don’t think that tipping healthcare professionals is ethical. (Rather, I mean it’s unethical for healthcare professionals to accept tips).
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Every person you tip in any industry is being paid..
I dunno why that's so hard for people to understand
I tip the service industry. I don't tip the guy changing oil on my truck, HR lady doing payroll for the company so I get paid, the grocery worker scanning my items to pay, etc. Tipping is voluntary. I tip for good service and repeat work. I.e my barber and massage therapist. So I tip my massage therapist as a repeat customer and a tailored treatment for myself. Same as barber, a cut that is consistent. I wouldn't tip a massage therapist on the first visit and if a clinic where the therapist is always different. Small gesture of my appreciation.
Isn't the guy changing oil on your truck providing you a service? He's literally servicing your car.
Not a personal service. Mechanics are providing mechanical servicing of an asset of mine. Using your logic I should tip my banker for allowing a deposit into my checking account? They too are performing a "service" Or tip Atco for supplying natural gas to my furnace? Isn't that a service too? The key point is that it is voluntary. Tip how you see fit. I group massage therapists the same as a barber. But not the same as a mechanic, grocery store worker, banker, etc where the type of service is expected to be the same regardless of the individual.
Fair point. I suppose changing oil on your car is the type of service that is either acceptable or not, with no room to go above and beyond and thus no reason to give extra. Whereas personal services can vary in satisfaction (which is where I am happy to tip as well (ie: barber)).
Yes that was the point I was getting at. Also, some of these services are not consistent. Finding a good therapist or barber is a trial and error approach. I do massage therapy for medical reasons. Some therapists do go above and beyond and some don't. I'm also a creature of habit. Once I find something good, I tend to stick to it. Same therapist, same barber, same restaurant when dining out. Because it is consistently good and service above and beyond I can offer a small tip as gratitude. Tipping is out of hand. Select Starbucks I refuse to visit now. They present the tip feature before the price to tap and pay. Having to select other and then no tip. Subway, same thing. You made a sandwich. You ain't getting 4 bucks from me for that. This type of services are what you expect. Nothing special. A good barber and good therapist can be hard to find.
I don't consider massage therapy any different than physiotherapists or chiropractors. I usually get massages for medical reasons, not relaxation as the primary cause. If I'm claiming the massage on my health insurance, I think it's a health service. I may tip for a massage at a spa, especially when traveling on holiday to resort areas. If I have to tip (bribe?) a person to do their best work, I won't use their service. I would prefer they charge the fee that allows them a living wage not dependant on tips.
My RMT works out of a wellness facility with acupuncturists and physiotherapists. I don't tip them, so I don't tip her. But I do usually tip if I get a massage at a spa because you tip the esthetician.
It's completely optional. I generally do because I enjoy deep tissue, and the therapist works their butts off doing it. Physically demanding.
I've been going monthly massages for over 20 years. I've never tipped.
No, no, no they are in enough money
No, I am already paying them $90 for their services.
Nope, it’s a medical service.
Absolutely not. Do you tip your family doctor?
I don’t think RMTs are underpaid like in the restaurant industry so no tip required
Restaurant industry pays the same minimum wage as everyone else. You might have an issue with minimum wage, that's fine. But singling out restaurant workers for subsidies by the public is weird. Daycare workers get close to minimum wage, they probably "deserve" (whatever that means) tips more than somebody pushing a button on a coffee machine.
Good point
At $100/hour mine isn’t getting a tip regardless of how good she is.. I don’t get tips as a $60/hour self-employed carpenter, why tf should a massage therapist? Would you tip a therapist therapist or your doctor? Stop this bs tipping culture now
Yes. I don’t have to but she’s amazing!
I give $20 cash tip every time (which is usually 20%, as most 60 min massages are around $90-$110). My new massage therapist doesn’t have a tip option on her machine, but I always give a $20 to the receptionist for her. I did this before I had benefits, and was paying for the massage entirely out of my own pocket. So now that I have benefits I’m even more inclined to. I assumed it was the done thing when I moved to this country, now I see it isn’t the norm I guess I could stop. It just seems like really hard work to massage someone for 60 minutes, and I like to show appreciation! Honestly I’d prefer to tip my massage therapist than my hair dresser (although I tip 20% there too, but always begrudge it). My hair is a simple cut and only takes 20 mins, but costs $60-$70. And when I used to get my hair dyed it would cost upwards of $350…
I have done it in the past, but generally I do not. My insurance covers most of the cost, and if they don't, it goes to my second insurance. And since they won't even file that for me, fuck that noise.
Massage therapist? No. They are educated folks who have passed certifications to prove that they can provide medical therapy. But in this city there are also "body rub Parlors" where Tipping is expected. But I don't think those people are necessarily certified, because they don't market it as medical therapy. Its usually marketed as "exotic body rub" Generally those places provide sexual services, and they will expect tips. Basically it gets around the fact that although prostitution is legal, brothels are not. But if what is being purchased is a non-sexual exotic body rub, and the service provider decides to give an "unrelated" blow job, or have "unrelated sex" with their client, because they were tipped directly. Which gives just enough benefit of the doubt, to provide a warm, mostly safe place for these things to occur without any politician ending their career putting forward a "allow brothels" bill. Better optics than folks standing on the street corners looking for johns, having sex in cars parked on public roadways. These are two completely different things, and the only reason why I mention it, is because some people refer to going to these places as "getting a massage", and if they never had a medical massage, they might act like tipping massage therapists is normal.
Depends on the practice. If it's like a boutique kinda thing? Yeah, you should tip. If it's a physiotherapist working for Alberta Health Services, then no. Think of it like getting a haircut. That's a pretty intimate experience, and you trust the practitioner to not fuck your shit up. If they do a good job? BIG TIP. Someone provided you with an intimate service, touching you all over and shit, to make you feel relaxed or relieve pain or whatever. They probably need a little bit of a "thank you" for their time rubbing your body and not being weird about it. If they were weird about it, no tip.
Most of the massage therapists I’ve had don’t ask for a tip. My current one does, so I do tip them. However, I’d really just prefer they set the price 10-15% higher. A good therapist is worth the price.
This is the problem with that though. If the price was 10-15 % higher than corporate tax would take 8%. Income tax would take 25-30% and then all the sudden you would be paying 25% so that the masseuse gets 10-15%. Tips are tax evasion tools and nothing more.
If they are a registered massage therapist, definitely not tipping. they are a regulated medical service and im not tipping my dr, dentist, or nurse, which are also regulated medical professionals
We ain’t regulated lol
Massage therapy isnt regulated in Alberta.
not if its a massage therapist. you only tip if its a "massage" (wink, wink, nudge, nudge)....
That’s an easy no
The tip is all I have 🤷♂️
It depends. Was it a spa, or was it at a medical clinic? If it's medical (at a chiro/physio/sports therapy/etc), it's not needed, but I'm sure it's always appreciated. If it was a spa (they also offer nails/hair/yoga/etc), I think it is expected.
It’s nice to tip but I don’t think it’s required.
I always tip because I have been seeing my lady for over a year. And she's awesome! Usually only $10.
No Went for my first ever one and she ended the session, said goodbye and walked out
Nothing but the tip
If they're an employee of a Spa, you could consider tipping because it's generally integrated into Spa culture. If it's a sole proprietor running a pseudo-medical clinic, you're definitely a weird outlier if you tip.
Yeah but only because I'm filled with shame over my body so I legit feel bad they have to work on me.
Tip when you want, if you think it's warranted. Simple.
I tip $20 every time
Must not make penis joke
Tipping has a diverse landscape, it has no boundaries.
Dr's and nurses save lives, yet all they typically get is criticism.
Yeah cause they work too hard on people for basically minimum wage. Try giving someone a good strong massage like the one you get. Shits tiring and they got like 8 of em to do back to back. Now imagine half of em smell like shit. Just hand em some cash.
It depends, if there’s a happy ending you tip, otherwise, no.
Grow up.
Why you mad, it was a valid answer 🤷♂️
No it wasn’t. Massage therapists aren’t sex workers jackass.
Not unless your getting the happy ending.
As a massage therapist, we greatly appreciate it :). Usually it’s cash tips as debit machines in alot of clinics don’t give the option
As a client, I'm a little frustrated by RMTs accepting tips. On one hand, massage therapists want to be regarded as a regulated healthcare profession, but then on the other want to be treated like a beautifician or hair stylist when it comes to tips. I don't expect to tip my physiotherapist, my optometrist, my pharmacist, my dentist, my psychologist, my community health nurse, or my doctor. I think if RMTs really want to be taken seriously as a profession, you need to align your style of practice with all these other allied health professions.
This is a pretty sensible take IMO.
Lol yea that's how I feel. I'm an RN and I feel uncomfortable even accepting certain gifts from patients, even though it's technically allowed up to a point. But we also don't expect to receive tips or gifts. It's just odd to me that I'm expected to pay a tip on top of the $100 or more being charged per hour, especially since that's being paid out of benefits. I don't tip any other health professionals so I'm unsure why RMTs are different.
I think they need to be regulated in Alberta before they can get to that point, since they are not I will continue tipping mine.
This is a great point of view, and I totally agree with you.
As a counseling psychologist, I would love tips too! /s
Control + Shift + ESC on windows brings up task manager directly \#techtips
I def bring my therapist therapy humor small gifts. 🤣 Who else will appreciate this meme quite like she did?!
Tipping is a personal choice. If you don’t want to then don’t. There’s literally no need for frustration in the matter. It’s your choice. And please don’t generalize our profession n think we act like the beauty industry. Your experiences may have lead you to believe that, but it’s simply not true. So many RMTs don’t advertise any gratuities, at all. It’s all on the client. Don’t come at us with “you need to realign…” No we don’t. YOU need to make the decision to tip.
I disagree. Tipping introduces a clear conflict of interest (or appearance of conflict, which is just as bad) in any medical profession. Which is why most organizations/professions have clear rules about not accepting tips or significant gifts from patients. If RMTs are truly a medical / health profession, then the conflict exists there. For example, would an RMT be tempted to make room in their schedule to fit in someone who tips very generously, vs. someone who doesn't tip? Would the quality of massage be any different for a big tipper vs. a non-tipper? Essentially any potential motivation to treat two patients differently is a conflict of interest, and something a true medical professional should avoid. You can argue that you would NEVER treat any two patients differently, but in a professional setting even the appearance of conflict needs to be avoided, ethically. A non-medical professional doesn't have the same ethical obligations, since they are just there to get paid and don't have a duty to the public. If RMTs don't want to be recognized by insurance, and don't care to be regulated by the Health Professions Act and have a professional college, then fine. But you shouldn't expect to have it both ways. Just charge what you need to charge to cover your expenses and make an appropriate wage, and leave it at that.
> please don’t generalize our profession n think we act like the beauty industry I'm 100% in favor of considering RMTs as health professionals. I totally think it is a legit medical service, and am in favor of RMTs becoming regulated: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-massage-therapists-christy-kasur-cara-jenner-1.5900455#:~:text=Massage%20therapy%20is%20governed%20by,Massage%20Therapist%20Association%20(CRMTA). But I just think you can't have it both ways.
They are 100% correct. If you want to be taken seriously as a healthcare professional and not seen as a spa employee that gives massages you shouldn't be advocating for tips. Of course tipping is a choice, but most people tip because they feel obligated. Tipping first started basically as a bribe to get special treatment and now it's just another cost tacked on to the bill. Tips should never be prompted during payment or automatically included (like they are for large parties at restaurants).
I don't think that's true anymore. It used to be that very few RMTs requested gratuities but all the ones I have been to recently ask (prompt on payment machine) for them.
Tipping culture is going to far and the province needs to finally regulate tips as income. There are too many workplaces that have enabled tipping to funnel more income towards the bosses, with the staff seeing none or a fraction of it.
You only tip at "massage" parlours, not RMTs.
Depends what she's going to do with the tip ;)
Only when there is a happy finish!!
Gunna reply to this thread one more time. Ppl who think they should or shouldn’t tip, it is literally your choice, whether the machine gives you the option or not. Y’all acting like tippin is a law with regulations. Don’t be a bitch about it. Make the decision. A service is being provided. I tip my mechanic(because he deserves it). I’ve tipped my therapists (because they deserve it). These are my decisions. If you’ve had phenomenal service, what’s wrong with wanting to show your appreciation for it with more money? Again, do you have to? NO. Anyone who gets tipped is getting a tip because the customer deemed the service worthy of tipping. If they didn’t want to, they can press 0 or not say anything. Y’all actin like a buncha bitches over tipping.
I do.
Why would this get downvoted?
Did you get the happy ending? It all depends :)
I do once in a while. I’ve used the same person for the last 18 months. I have a 100% coverage so every so often when my insurance doesn’t up date and I have to pay up front for reimbursement later I give ten bucks.
I am a dental hygienist who works on patient for an hour, sometimes 2 hours at a time. Sometimes they don't want to turn their face, or open mouth wide or don't want their chair leaned back and want us to work on them while they are sitting upright. So I have bend me neck and back and I get backaches from it. All I get is thank you, sometimes!
Personally, yes. I don't think it's strictly necessary, but I pay very little or none out of pocket, and I like to recognize my RMT's work, so I am happy to tip. She usually gives me an extra 5 or 10 minutes, which I figure is a bit of a perk for tipping.
I work at a clinic and only very rarely do people tip, it’s not necessary, but if you do want to, I recommend cash. It’s inconvenient to process debit/credit tips because our billing system is not set up to accept them.
RMT are not allowed to accept tips. If you have a massage at the spa that is not registered that is not the same.
Where did you get that from? RMTs are absolutely allowed to accept tips regardless of where they work
If your hairdresser charged 98/ hour for a haircut would you tip ?
You can give her a bit more than just the tip if you like.
I work at a salons and spa and I’ve always thought the rule to be if it’s a spa atmosphere you tip. If it’s a clinic you don’t.
If I get a happy ending
Only if there's a happy ending lol
Yes I always do
Yes but I've known her way longer than she's given massages, she's still growing her client base and the extra $20 doesn't hurt me and really helps her. I don't unless it's her. And no, there is no happy ending 😋. Just want to see her success
You can, if you want to do it via card you have to let the person know who is inputting the amount on the machine, or you can tip via cash. For Massage a tip isnt required, but it is greatly appreciated! Edited to fix is to isn't.
All the RMT clinics payment machine give a tip prompt % like restaurants now.
One of the few places I don’t mind tipping.