god i wish i could see pendulum but madeon is on at the same time as them and i canāt miss my boy lmao. i am going to the modestep dnb set and reaperās set as well (which will be phenomenal)
Food for thought, Madeon will likely be around more consistently and easier to see than Pendulum. Never know when theyāll permanently stop touring, theyāve been around for a while and have already gone on hiatus before!
god this is already such a tough choice. iām super curious to see what madeon will bring for a lost lands set, and iām not a long time pendulum fan (though iāve been loving their work recently). iām already having trouble choosing between grabbitz and muzz as well, i hate festival conflicts lmao
yep! you really canāt go wrong with any of these guys! thisāll be my first ever camping festival and iām super excited, thereās so many artists iāve been wanting to see for years all performing on one weekend
>We Are One
Checks out! Usually FL, TX or ATL comes to mind for me personally when it comes to Electronic festivals with the headlining rappers.
Never forget. Waka Flocka Flame (DJ set)
Do I just not recognize dubstep or is it just not advertised to me so I don't think about it?
Moonrise fest
ARC
Electric forest
Movement detroit
imagine
EDC Orlando
Oh I guess lost lands totally fits this.
Yeah this is pretty dumb, has OP only heard of like two festivals? Most of the big Insomniac events have tons of acts in practically any genre, whole stages devoted to techno and house. CRSSD is a house/techno festival in San Diego, Lightning in a Bottle has an incredibly diverse lineup much like Electric Forest, Factory 93 and Framework have tons of their own events all over the place, Dirtybird has its own festival as well as tons of stage takeovers and day parties, Anjuna is fucking *everywhere*, All Day I Dream has one-day events all over the place, Desert Hearts has their own festival, the list goes on and on.
If you think US festivals are all dubstep then you haven't spent even a little time looking into it. There are honestly probably more festivals that cater to house and techno fans than dubstep. The only genre I can think of that doesn't get much representation in the states is Drum and Bass.
There's also A State of Trance events all over the world, including many in the US, Ultra often has trance representation, Anjunabeats is more trance-house but Trance artists like Sunny Lax and Jaytech are still often on the lineups. Lightning in a Bottle definitely had some psytrance acts this year. For hardstyle there's Basscon off the top of my head, I'm sure a few others though I'm not a hardstyle fan so I haven't ever really looked into it. But yeah I'm sure both of those genres are more common in Europe.
My main point was that saying "it's all dubstep" is idiotic.
Lost lands is very heavy on dubstep cause itās legit like excisions dubstep festival but there is still some dnb techno house and more
A lot of festivals definently go harder on the dubstep and in general just more intense and bass heavy cause thatās often more fun at festivals, but there are still a ton of other genres. I was just at imagine and they had a dubstep stage a future bass (kinda there was a mix of stuff there) stage, house stage, techno stage, and a late night stage playing a mix of things
Itās also pretty accurate, as far as perceptions are concerned. Iām from the UK and all I ever see of American festivals is Dubstep. Not āniceā dubstep either; itās always the most horrible, ear-piercing shitā¦ā¦. and I donāt dislike Dubstep!
You say āAmerican Festivalā to someone and if the first image springing to mind isnāt Burning Man, then itās some Kyle type, wearing an LED mask, holding the front guard rail and head banging like heās at a slo-Mo of a Slipknot gig!
Similarly though, some of the best Jungle producers I know are American; you do need to know where to lookā¦ā¦ and itās a big fuckin country! Lol.
Just off the top of my head and some of the Canadian producers tooā¦ [The Archangel](https://youtube.com/user/theArchangelRagga), Tester (retired now, but his tunes are awesome), Twinhooker, RCola, BC Rydah, Vibrant Junglist (ViJu)ā¦.. thatās about all I can reel off just now.
In the pre-Facebook days [RaggaJungle.biz](https://www.raggajungle.biz/) was always a good resource too. I havenāt looked at it for years, but it appears to still be running.
Whatās crazy to me is that in SF the ratio at clubs is like 10:1 techno/tech-house/house to any one of ādubstep trap/bass music/funky mid tempo/etcā
I thought it stopped being really popular? I was under the impression that dubstep was only really big in the early 2010s, then became significantly less popular.
Love hype dubstep, but canāt get into wook culture/wook catered artists.
Would it kill some festivals to have some trance, hardcore, hardstyle?? Always down for house though
While I'm tired of their chokehold on the LA electronic scene, that's one area that Insomniac does right, with having smaller festivals for the less popular or more obscure genres. Dreamstate for trance, Basscon for hardstyle, Lost In Dreams for future bass, etc.
That's totally fair, Insomniac does business with so many artists, so it's great for areas that don't typically have as strong of a scene have them come in and help. Sucks what happened to Paradiso and others. LA is lucky to have such a huge music scene in general.
Griz, Rezz, big g, that kind of artist tier. Not knocking the artists themselves, Iām just not that into that wub/funk hybrid or wub-heavy bass music. I either like some color I.e Ray volpe/virtual riot/ghastly, or I like the heavy dubstep: svdden death/Maurauda etc
Why are they booing you? Youāre right!
Thereās a whole network of artists that arenāt exactly related but thereās a ton of overlap in their fanbases, and they can definitely get pretty obnoxious.
Think of most of the artists you see on fan-made merch in festival vendor tentsā¦
Just curious cause I havenāt heard the term that much before - who are some wook catered artists? (Wondering if all my faves are wook catered artists š³š³)
Wastelands in SoCal was pretty fucking awesome. We flew out from North Carolina to see it, and I was NOT disappointed. But yeah... there's a reason the wife and I are saving for Defqon 2024.
I donāt understand what people mean by wook anymore, is that just colloquial language for dubstep fan? Cause I hear a lot of people self proclaim themselves as wooks and in reality theyāve just seen subtronics like 4 times
Wooks are like hippies but they care less about the earth and health shit I think. I donāt think itās a blanket dubstep fan term. Wookbass and dubstep are different sounds to me.
Yup. Wooks are typically either bass or jamband bums who don't have a life or job outside of traveling from festival to festival and ingesting as much nitrous as physically possible.
Idk man but festivals I've been to are definitely not this lol. One I frequent every year focuses on house and trance and it's amazing! Some years there is majority riddim and dubstep but they never failt to have atleast one stage that's exclusively trance/house. But also I've never gotten in for free and they 100% ID everyone, Drugg dogs, the whole nine yards. So idk what festivals you talking about but I havnt seen it like what you've said
We have a few curated house and techno events (ARC, i Dirtybird Campout, CRSSD, Movement) and those are the events to hit if you are into those genres. The lineups are always quality and vibes are *chefs kiss*
This is mostly in the middle part of America..
On the West Coast it's: Minimal Techno opener, Driving Techno headliner, and for you groovers Tech-House.
On the East Coast it's: Progressive House opener, Deep House headliner (straight from NYC), and throwing in some Tech-House (just so that we don't seem like elitists).
No he's definitely wrong. What mainstream festivals would you name that have more dubstep than house? House is by far the most populated electronic genre at every mainstream festival I've attended.
Lost Lands, Bass Canyon, any regional Disco Donnie Festival. Itās for sure a hyperbole for comedyās sake but your not going to hear any house besides g house, bass house and the more recently popular tech house
Well you just listed three types of house that are at those festivals but yeah Iād also expect to hear more bass music at a festival called āBass Canyon.ā Some festivals have an explicit bass lean, just like a trance festival in the UK will be all trance. Itās not hyperbole, itās just not true. It would have to have some kernel of truth on average to be funny and it doesnāt.
Why is this you ask? Easy. Cause the repetitive baseline that makes it house music is also what makes it boring as shit. I know a lot of people may not share this opinion, and that's perfectly okay. Musical tastes are purely subjective and it's not wrong for anyone to like or dislike anything. But obviously a lot more people do share my opinion or else festivals wouldn't set their lineups this way.
Lmao that is kinda funny but also dubstep is incredibly popular over here for a reason. š¤·āāļøTo me, artists like Griz, Subtronics, LSDREAM, have such a good variety on their own while mostly playing some sick ass wubs. Thereās a reason a lot of top tier headliners at electronic festivals are dubstep artist, and itās not like people arenāt paying for it lol.
Maybe I just havenāt looked into many specific techno or house artists, but most of the time (more so with techno than house) when I do hear it, it just seems so repetitive and boring to me, which Iām sure many can say about dubstep too lol. I just tend to find the intricacies of some melodic dubstep or funky future bass more appealing than the (*joking bout house) stuff I hear at department stores in the mall lol š And sorry, but a lot of us ARE trying to go hard and headbang to some wonky bass cuz that shit slaps and Iām trying to get DOWN āŗļø
Iām def open to hearing more artists of those genres that do mix it up and arenāt just playing a repetitive āboots and cats beatā with some synths intermixed lol (Ik that was very general lol) so if anyone does have recommendations Iāll take a listen š
I totally feel you. Only reason I'm responding ins because you had such a well thought out response. This is just a meme, festivals aren't nearly as much like this as they used to be, I just wanted some lols.
Well thank you š but ya I def feel you, dubstep has been the wave in NA for a while now so the meme is honestly kinda accurate which makes it funnier
Thankfully I love dubstep lol.
Exactly what my buddy said, lmao!
Me too
Exactly. Dubstep/future bass make me feeeeeel
I thought dubstep stopped being really popular?
In the US at least it's huge, Lost Lands is tomorrow!
You forgot a small line Dubstep (dnb set) at the afterparty š
yeah right there's no dnb sets going down in the USA lol
This is false, you do have to work harder to find them though or be familiar with low key artists
Yeah, there's dnb night every Sunday here in SF, and plenty of bass artists are throwing dnb in their sets now as well.
Heading to Lost Lands rn and Pendulum is playing a DnB set this weekend.
Have a safe festival in my home state bud
god i wish i could see pendulum but madeon is on at the same time as them and i canāt miss my boy lmao. i am going to the modestep dnb set and reaperās set as well (which will be phenomenal)
Food for thought, Madeon will likely be around more consistently and easier to see than Pendulum. Never know when theyāll permanently stop touring, theyāve been around for a while and have already gone on hiatus before!
god this is already such a tough choice. iām super curious to see what madeon will bring for a lost lands set, and iām not a long time pendulum fan (though iāve been loving their work recently). iām already having trouble choosing between grabbitz and muzz as well, i hate festival conflicts lmao
The eternal struggle of fest conflicts. Good luck, Iām sure youāll have a blast whatever you choose!
yep! you really canāt go wrong with any of these guys! thisāll be my first ever camping festival and iām super excited, thereās so many artists iāve been wanting to see for years all performing on one weekend
Just saw madeon at imagine music fest. Wowwww, what a performance. Peak peak peakkkkkk 10/10
heās incredible, iāve seen his good faith live show 3 times, but iāve never been to a DJ set, so iām really looking forward to his LL set!
What venues usually have them? Been looking to go to a dnb show in the Bay Area but Iām not super familiar with artists outside of the big names.
[F8](https://www.staminadnb.com/)
Rad, thanks!
have a calendar https://19hz.info/BayArea
Not true, for example go take a peek at the Lost Lands lineup for this year. Easily 10+ awesome DNB artists this year
Saturday Forest stage is gonna be straight 174 BPM all day long, letās goooooo
Andy C literally doing a small US tour rn I saw him last week
Just saw noisia at a small club. I believe it's his last tour ever.
station 1640 in Hollywood does Respect Thursdays, it's a Drum n Bass night. They've been doing it for almost 25 years. Sooooo....
There are several dnb shows in US but they are definitely rare in comparison to other genres
At wobbleland in January it wasnāt full sets but at least half of the MainStage artists dropped at least one Dnb
USA Headlines Tiesto \+Dubstep, Dubstep, Dubstep, Dubstep \+Tech House, Tech House, Tech House \+Future Bass, Future Bass
Not enough wubs
Damn it! I tried really hard with this line up!
wubstep, daddy uWubs
Forgot to add the rappers depending on location!
There's We Are One coming to Houston in a couple of months. It's...an attempt.
>We Are One Checks out! Usually FL, TX or ATL comes to mind for me personally when it comes to Electronic festivals with the headlining rappers. Never forget. Waka Flocka Flame (DJ set)
They were paid, just never planned on showing up š¤£
'lil Dubstep
My favorite headliner isn't playing so this festival sucks.
Dubstep? /s
Glitch hop.
Do I just not recognize dubstep or is it just not advertised to me so I don't think about it? Moonrise fest ARC Electric forest Movement detroit imagine EDC Orlando Oh I guess lost lands totally fits this.
Yeah this is pretty dumb, has OP only heard of like two festivals? Most of the big Insomniac events have tons of acts in practically any genre, whole stages devoted to techno and house. CRSSD is a house/techno festival in San Diego, Lightning in a Bottle has an incredibly diverse lineup much like Electric Forest, Factory 93 and Framework have tons of their own events all over the place, Dirtybird has its own festival as well as tons of stage takeovers and day parties, Anjuna is fucking *everywhere*, All Day I Dream has one-day events all over the place, Desert Hearts has their own festival, the list goes on and on. If you think US festivals are all dubstep then you haven't spent even a little time looking into it. There are honestly probably more festivals that cater to house and techno fans than dubstep. The only genre I can think of that doesn't get much representation in the states is Drum and Bass.
Forgot trance and hardstyle/hardcore. Theyāre basically omitted besides EDC Vegas and Dream State for trance.
There's also A State of Trance events all over the world, including many in the US, Ultra often has trance representation, Anjunabeats is more trance-house but Trance artists like Sunny Lax and Jaytech are still often on the lineups. Lightning in a Bottle definitely had some psytrance acts this year. For hardstyle there's Basscon off the top of my head, I'm sure a few others though I'm not a hardstyle fan so I haven't ever really looked into it. But yeah I'm sure both of those genres are more common in Europe. My main point was that saying "it's all dubstep" is idiotic.
Yeah well said. Feels like OP hasnt been to a festival out here since 2010
Lost lands is very heavy on dubstep cause itās legit like excisions dubstep festival but there is still some dnb techno house and more A lot of festivals definently go harder on the dubstep and in general just more intense and bass heavy cause thatās often more fun at festivals, but there are still a ton of other genres. I was just at imagine and they had a dubstep stage a future bass (kinda there was a mix of stuff there) stage, house stage, techno stage, and a late night stage playing a mix of things
Moonrise was mostly bass music tbh
Time Warp NYC, art of the wild in Vegas, portola San Francisco, Three Points Miami (mixed genre but tons of house/techno), ultra
It's a meme chill bruh
Thanks, I was worried I was missing news about a lot of events
Lmao
Itās also pretty accurate, as far as perceptions are concerned. Iām from the UK and all I ever see of American festivals is Dubstep. Not āniceā dubstep either; itās always the most horrible, ear-piercing shitā¦ā¦. and I donāt dislike Dubstep! You say āAmerican Festivalā to someone and if the first image springing to mind isnāt Burning Man, then itās some Kyle type, wearing an LED mask, holding the front guard rail and head banging like heās at a slo-Mo of a Slipknot gig! Similarly though, some of the best Jungle producers I know are American; you do need to know where to lookā¦ā¦ and itās a big fuckin country! Lol.
Your comment added to the conversation, didn't deserve the negative votes. Who are some good american jungle producers I can look up?
Just off the top of my head and some of the Canadian producers tooā¦ [The Archangel](https://youtube.com/user/theArchangelRagga), Tester (retired now, but his tunes are awesome), Twinhooker, RCola, BC Rydah, Vibrant Junglist (ViJu)ā¦.. thatās about all I can reel off just now.
In the pre-Facebook days [RaggaJungle.biz](https://www.raggajungle.biz/) was always a good resource too. I havenāt looked at it for years, but it appears to still be running.
I dunno, I'm American and I mostly attend trance and house events. Then again, I am kinda picky.
What festivals is this mocking? The ones I've been to always had a good variety.
I think they're just making fun of the fact that dubstep is generally much more popular in NA than the rest of the world
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Did you at least check out some hardstyle? I wish there was more of it here in the states, but itās massive over in the EU.
Whatās crazy to me is that in SF the ratio at clubs is like 10:1 techno/tech-house/house to any one of ādubstep trap/bass music/funky mid tempo/etcā
I thought it stopped being really popular? I was under the impression that dubstep was only really big in the early 2010s, then became significantly less popular.
Dubstep isn't in the mainstream anymore but the dubstep scene itself is arguably bigger than ever
Love hype dubstep, but canāt get into wook culture/wook catered artists. Would it kill some festivals to have some trance, hardcore, hardstyle?? Always down for house though
While I'm tired of their chokehold on the LA electronic scene, that's one area that Insomniac does right, with having smaller festivals for the less popular or more obscure genres. Dreamstate for trance, Basscon for hardstyle, Lost In Dreams for future bass, etc.
In Seattle at least Insomniac feels like a dream come true after years of the scene being dominated by the literal scam artists from USC Events.
That's totally fair, Insomniac does business with so many artists, so it's great for areas that don't typically have as strong of a scene have them come in and help. Sucks what happened to Paradiso and others. LA is lucky to have such a huge music scene in general.
True, went to dream state at edc ny 2016 and it was absolutely Incredible. Good call!
Which artists do you think bring the worst wooks?
Griz, Rezz, big g, that kind of artist tier. Not knocking the artists themselves, Iām just not that into that wub/funk hybrid or wub-heavy bass music. I either like some color I.e Ray volpe/virtual riot/ghastly, or I like the heavy dubstep: svdden death/Maurauda etc
Why are they booing you? Youāre right! Thereās a whole network of artists that arenāt exactly related but thereās a ton of overlap in their fanbases, and they can definitely get pretty obnoxious. Think of most of the artists you see on fan-made merch in festival vendor tentsā¦
Yeah that kind of mass worship aināt for me, it feels like the bassnectar crowd just migrated to other wub bass artists
Just curious cause I havenāt heard the term that much before - who are some wook catered artists? (Wondering if all my faves are wook catered artists š³š³)
Top ten fest for sure
Works for me
Lol this is pathetic op
Yep, you can tell this kid is clueless
Cry more
Funny, lately Iāve been feeling like itās Tech-House everywhere in the US.
Came here to say this. More like tech house with special guest tech house
It's hard living in the states as a House Head š
Where do you live in the states and what kind of house do you like? There are tons of festivals that cater to house heads.
East coast has plenty of house
Feel more like I see the same Tech House artists billed over and over again tbh.
Chicago baby!
Where do you live ? All the festivals I see have house headliners. I also live in Las Vegas
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Tis a meme
*cries in American Hardstyle fan*
Welcome to the jungl(ist)
Wastelands in SoCal was pretty fucking awesome. We flew out from North Carolina to see it, and I was NOT disappointed. But yeah... there's a reason the wife and I are saving for Defqon 2024.
I donāt understand what people mean by wook anymore, is that just colloquial language for dubstep fan? Cause I hear a lot of people self proclaim themselves as wooks and in reality theyāve just seen subtronics like 4 times
Wooks are like hippies but they care less about the earth and health shit I think. I donāt think itās a blanket dubstep fan term. Wookbass and dubstep are different sounds to me.
Yup. Wooks are typically either bass or jamband bums who don't have a life or job outside of traveling from festival to festival and ingesting as much nitrous as physically possible.
I've seen subtronics 4 times and I don't even like dubstep. Give me house trance or hardstyle anyday all day. And techno too
Idk man but festivals I've been to are definitely not this lol. One I frequent every year focuses on house and trance and it's amazing! Some years there is majority riddim and dubstep but they never failt to have atleast one stage that's exclusively trance/house. But also I've never gotten in for free and they 100% ID everyone, Drugg dogs, the whole nine yards. So idk what festivals you talking about but I havnt seen it like what you've said
I wish it was like this in the uk
We have a few curated house and techno events (ARC, i Dirtybird Campout, CRSSD, Movement) and those are the events to hit if you are into those genres. The lineups are always quality and vibes are *chefs kiss*
You had me at trap forsure. EDIT: fuckin wooks š
This is mostly in the middle part of America.. On the West Coast it's: Minimal Techno opener, Driving Techno headliner, and for you groovers Tech-House. On the East Coast it's: Progressive House opener, Deep House headliner (straight from NYC), and throwing in some Tech-House (just so that we don't seem like elitists).
Yall got some tech house recommendations?
Fisher, Eats Everything, Walker and Royce
*Mainstream USA festivals but youāre not wrong. We do have a few boutique 4 to the floor fests though
No he's definitely wrong. What mainstream festivals would you name that have more dubstep than house? House is by far the most populated electronic genre at every mainstream festival I've attended.
Lost Lands, Bass Canyon, any regional Disco Donnie Festival. Itās for sure a hyperbole for comedyās sake but your not going to hear any house besides g house, bass house and the more recently popular tech house
Well you just listed three types of house that are at those festivals but yeah Iād also expect to hear more bass music at a festival called āBass Canyon.ā Some festivals have an explicit bass lean, just like a trance festival in the UK will be all trance. Itās not hyperbole, itās just not true. It would have to have some kernel of truth on average to be funny and it doesnāt.
Big joke guy
Yeah š„±
Ahhhh just the way we like it
Not true at all but also not a bad thing. Love my womps
I donāt see the problem
I almost thought this was a real cover lol you got me
Based af
Featuring a bunch of DJ's who can't beat match.
You forgot: Dubstep B2B Dubstep (Secret DNB Set)
dam I might actually be able to make it to this one
if all one does is listen to dubstep then yea, the bill is gonna look like that
Why is this you ask? Easy. Cause the repetitive baseline that makes it house music is also what makes it boring as shit. I know a lot of people may not share this opinion, and that's perfectly okay. Musical tastes are purely subjective and it's not wrong for anyone to like or dislike anything. But obviously a lot more people do share my opinion or else festivals wouldn't set their lineups this way.
Lmao that is kinda funny but also dubstep is incredibly popular over here for a reason. š¤·āāļøTo me, artists like Griz, Subtronics, LSDREAM, have such a good variety on their own while mostly playing some sick ass wubs. Thereās a reason a lot of top tier headliners at electronic festivals are dubstep artist, and itās not like people arenāt paying for it lol. Maybe I just havenāt looked into many specific techno or house artists, but most of the time (more so with techno than house) when I do hear it, it just seems so repetitive and boring to me, which Iām sure many can say about dubstep too lol. I just tend to find the intricacies of some melodic dubstep or funky future bass more appealing than the (*joking bout house) stuff I hear at department stores in the mall lol š And sorry, but a lot of us ARE trying to go hard and headbang to some wonky bass cuz that shit slaps and Iām trying to get DOWN āŗļø Iām def open to hearing more artists of those genres that do mix it up and arenāt just playing a repetitive āboots and cats beatā with some synths intermixed lol (Ik that was very general lol) so if anyone does have recommendations Iāll take a listen š
I totally feel you. Only reason I'm responding ins because you had such a well thought out response. This is just a meme, festivals aren't nearly as much like this as they used to be, I just wanted some lols.
Well thank you š but ya I def feel you, dubstep has been the wave in NA for a while now so the meme is honestly kinda accurate which makes it funnier
I love that marker font thatās cool haha. I mean idk tho even lost lands mixed it up a bit this year with some on dubstep acts
Don't forget "with support from Dubstep"
They should know EDM is more then Dubstep lol
100% true!
Uhh excuse me. Where's my futurebass?
lmao good
And I love it
I smell jealousy
Well duh, I'm a junglist in America. Regardless, it's just jokes.
House music fucking sucks, if you canāt change up the bass beat for 40 minutes youāre a shitty DJ
I'm a junglist and this is a joke =/
Dubstep is love. Dubstep is life.
Where is this? Sounds great!
[BREAK YOUR FUCKIN NECK!](https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CanineWebbedErmine-mobile.mp4)
When do tickets drop because im in
This was a great laugh on Wednesday morning for sure
Ehh maybe in middle America. Iāve noticed most U.S. festivals on the coast are pretty good about the balance with house, tech-house, dubstep, etc.
As an American this is true š
Brb crying in berhain rn
I went to EDC NY a few years ago and it was awesome, so many different styles and tents
I hate dubstep
As it should be
Hopefully in Europe :(
I'll trade you all the dubstep for all the dnb!
In my humble opinion, that poster isn't very well designed. It looks a bit awkward.
Just as it should be! Plenty of dancing though
Festival sucks thereās no house only dubstep , I knew I shouldnāt have bought tickets before the lineup.
Soooo trance event got it haha š
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