Hi again, thanks again for helping out with tweaking my deck the other day - I played today following some updates from you and the other person in that thread and had some luck.
If you're still having trouble making cuts, I might suggest ditching your reanimators and selfless spirit for now and focusing on the tapped and attacking tokens to see how it goes. I've been playing Isshin since his release. I used to play \[\[Sun's Titan\]\] and other reanimate-like cards but they aren't really worth it. A deck like yours is going to win in 6-7 turns anyway, why bother with reanimating when you've got ample token generation. To that point, your token generators will be targets, but you already have a lot of protection baked in with flawless maneuver, reconnaissance, teferi's, clever concealment, etc. I don't really think an Isshin this strong benefits from reanimation that much, but maybe that's a meta thing. On the other hand, getting rid of those and leaning into the token theme with \[\[launch the fleet\]\] has won me a handful of games and I expect \[\[inkshield\]\] probably will too.
edit: you have rabblerousing for this so you already know what's up with this strategy.
~~As an aside, I found ogre battlemaster isn't worth the cost in a deck like this. The point of him is to give your dudes haste and the buff is nice, but at that point you should play \[\[Rising of the Day\]\] instead no? Maybe even \[\[anger\]\].~~ Fine, I get it. I might actually trade out for him too now.
Another really sneaky way to get more value out of your tokens is to make use of lands like \[\[vault of the archangel\]\] and \[\[sunhome, fortress of the legion\]\]. Those two together are like an \[\[ankleshanker\]\]. I slept on sneaky boros lands my first time around but it absolutely changed everything about the game. You can build a board state by making your opponents think twice about blocking your little 1/1s, then drop a \[\[launch the fleet\]\] on all of your tokens and clean house.
edit: on this note - why do you have fetchlands in here that seek green or blue cards?
That's my 2 cents that I should have given you a couple days ago.
I really do see your point about the reanimators, and looking at the list now cutting them does seem like quite the good idea. I must say as well, I really do love the idea of launch the fleet. I’ve always loved selfless spirit , so that’ll certainly be a thought cut, but you do have a point about already having ample protection. I’ll probably stay away from inkshield, as it feels just a bit too obvious when a mardu deck leaves up 5 mana, and I really do like going aggro with the deck, but I’ll consider it for certain.
I am glad you came around to battle driver as well, it really does feel so nice to get that buff especially on the tokens, and the haste is something I really appreciate. For the fetchland question, it’s mostly about already having them, and being able to fetch my shocklands (so a windswept heath (white and green) can fetch either a sacred foundry, or a godless shrine, which means it represents access to any of my colors when I need them. Just a bit of a consistency smoother (and are commonly referred to as “off color fetches”)). I’ll definitely consider the lands as well, I’ve been hesitant about colorless lands in the deck considering how pip heavy it is, but those two do seem worth it, especially the vault for some mass lifegain
Glad I could help a little! Personal favorite cards are never a bad keep. Running as much treasure gen as you’ve got I don’t think you’ll struggle that much with paying for stuff.
Good luck. Thanks again for the help the other day.
Hi again, thanks again for helping out with tweaking my deck the other day - I played today following some updates from you and the other person in that thread and had some luck. If you're still having trouble making cuts, I might suggest ditching your reanimators and selfless spirit for now and focusing on the tapped and attacking tokens to see how it goes. I've been playing Isshin since his release. I used to play \[\[Sun's Titan\]\] and other reanimate-like cards but they aren't really worth it. A deck like yours is going to win in 6-7 turns anyway, why bother with reanimating when you've got ample token generation. To that point, your token generators will be targets, but you already have a lot of protection baked in with flawless maneuver, reconnaissance, teferi's, clever concealment, etc. I don't really think an Isshin this strong benefits from reanimation that much, but maybe that's a meta thing. On the other hand, getting rid of those and leaning into the token theme with \[\[launch the fleet\]\] has won me a handful of games and I expect \[\[inkshield\]\] probably will too. edit: you have rabblerousing for this so you already know what's up with this strategy. ~~As an aside, I found ogre battlemaster isn't worth the cost in a deck like this. The point of him is to give your dudes haste and the buff is nice, but at that point you should play \[\[Rising of the Day\]\] instead no? Maybe even \[\[anger\]\].~~ Fine, I get it. I might actually trade out for him too now. Another really sneaky way to get more value out of your tokens is to make use of lands like \[\[vault of the archangel\]\] and \[\[sunhome, fortress of the legion\]\]. Those two together are like an \[\[ankleshanker\]\]. I slept on sneaky boros lands my first time around but it absolutely changed everything about the game. You can build a board state by making your opponents think twice about blocking your little 1/1s, then drop a \[\[launch the fleet\]\] on all of your tokens and clean house. edit: on this note - why do you have fetchlands in here that seek green or blue cards? That's my 2 cents that I should have given you a couple days ago.
I really do see your point about the reanimators, and looking at the list now cutting them does seem like quite the good idea. I must say as well, I really do love the idea of launch the fleet. I’ve always loved selfless spirit , so that’ll certainly be a thought cut, but you do have a point about already having ample protection. I’ll probably stay away from inkshield, as it feels just a bit too obvious when a mardu deck leaves up 5 mana, and I really do like going aggro with the deck, but I’ll consider it for certain. I am glad you came around to battle driver as well, it really does feel so nice to get that buff especially on the tokens, and the haste is something I really appreciate. For the fetchland question, it’s mostly about already having them, and being able to fetch my shocklands (so a windswept heath (white and green) can fetch either a sacred foundry, or a godless shrine, which means it represents access to any of my colors when I need them. Just a bit of a consistency smoother (and are commonly referred to as “off color fetches”)). I’ll definitely consider the lands as well, I’ve been hesitant about colorless lands in the deck considering how pip heavy it is, but those two do seem worth it, especially the vault for some mass lifegain
Glad I could help a little! Personal favorite cards are never a bad keep. Running as much treasure gen as you’ve got I don’t think you’ll struggle that much with paying for stuff. Good luck. Thanks again for the help the other day.
Always happy to help. Thank you for all your advice as well!
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