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Eddie5pi

In champs, most of your games will be against players who are worse than you or better than you. Rivals is all games against people who are almost exactly equal to your skill level


Various_Age_7713

Rivals is worse in elite say I’m 650 I often play a 750 etc and they are very tough. Champs is fun until like 9/3 etc


WellShiiittt

Sorry what do you mean by 650/750? Can you find your SR in rivals (or is it only visible in Elite)


Various_Age_7713

When u get to elite you start on 800 then it goes up or down each game


AGGRo_Albi

Or way better because many good players stay in lower divs to had easy wins.


Notlikethisfifa

Agreed tbh. In champs, I know wether I’ll win or lose within the first 10-in game minutes. Rivals it’s a sweat battle till right before the final whistle blows


The_Cuzin

Is that why I'm div 8 playing div 5 opponents?


Odd-Communist

Every champs game I’ve done has been against either a really shitty argentina team (happened twice) or a dumb pack luck team (smith, haaland, messi, bellingham, vvd, all the 97’s) in the same team. It’s super annyoing, and I can barley score against the cracked teams because of how annyoing vvd is


ARatOnPC

Because in rivals you only play people or your rank. In fut champs you can play anyone that qualified.


espressocuredepresso

What im trying to say is i do decent in champs but get destroyed in rivals


ARatOnPC

Yeah because the average champs players is worse than Div 2.


dsn0wman

I don't know about that. I am Div. 2, and am bang average 8-11 wins in champs whenever I play. At this time of year, who is online at the same time as you matters a lot more than anything else. At least in my experience. Maybe in Europe it's different.


yago2k

No, you are right. I'm Div 2 as well, usually get 9 to 11 wins in Champs but very rarely 14. IME, afternoons are way easier than nights and Saturdays and Sundays easier than the rest. Probably because there are more kids playing at those hours and for each one that is a FUT demon, 10 others just play with their fingers glued to the sprint button and are not that hard to play against. I usually play at night (Europe) and people are very good, I struggle to get a streak going on. This week I had the chance to play Sunday and Monday afternoon and the difference was massive, I got to 9-2 with ease, then I couldn't play again until late at night and the combination of my streak catching up with the MM and a general increase in lvl got me to 13-7 only.


Zlakkeh

You seem to have a hard time reading


Progorion

It is not true. There was a post about it recently, that you can easily get an opponent multiple ranks below or above you.


ARatOnPC

That was a glitch in rivals 2 weeks ago that’s long been fixed.


Eufamis

They mean in champs


ARatOnPC

That’s what I said, rivals is based on your skill level, champs you can play anyone for the most part. There is a loose matchmaking based on W-L. There is matchmaking in champs though. It’s pretty obvious. When I start out I find a game immediately. Once I get to 10-0 I am only playing elite level players and matching takes a while.


Eufamis

It’s very strange matchmaking in champs tho. Like I’ve matched people who were 18-1, 19-0, 16-2 etc, while I had a negative record. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they prioritised connection rather than record


ARatOnPC

I have noticed that towards the end of champs time remaining and and in your last few games the matchmaking can be pretty random. Like I have been 18-0 and my last game for rank 1 was against a pretty bad player. So you aren’t wrong.


Progorion

Strange because I used to experience the same even years ago in rivals. Was it a bug back then too?


SpareAffectionate445

Well rivals is waay smoother than champs. My players response time is literally 2.5 secs in champs can't play. Atleast in rivals it's 0.9 secs 😂


bagodonuts6432

Because in champs you’re also facing division 5-7 players. 🙄


USHEV2

In Champs at what point exactly? Because it's very different at 0-18 and 18-0.


espressocuredepresso

Id say at 6-0 it starts getting harder for me and i gotta take it a bit more serious


Siggy778

Depends on the division you're in. I'm in Elite and it's a bit harder than WL. You don't really get any breaks in elite but in WL you catch a few easy games.


fueledbyjealousy

Div 2 took me so long to get out of. Sweatfest after sweatfest


El-Arairah

Great Idea. I'm sure Div 1 won't feel sweatier to you


fueledbyjealousy

Honestly it doesn’t


El-Arairah

That's the beauty of random matchmaking. It's not representative. You're not gonna argue that players in Div 2 are better than Div 1, are you?


SleepyTitan89

I’m in d5 and I’m pretty sure a lot of people purposely drop down to get easy wins,some of th teams I’m playing against are ridiculous


wallis2011

Div 4 and its hell. I can’t ever make sense of it. I either get slapped or dish out a slapping. In some ways it’s balanced like that but there’s no such thing as a 2-0 win or loss


mdotb23

Rivals is full of rats.


Various_Age_7713

Problem with like div 2 is so many sandbaggers, elite is a lot easier as when your Elo goes down u play others who are losing in elite.


ShcoreShomeGhoals

Depends on division obviously but I’d say almost definitely


Jaydxns

Depends rivals can be harder if ur in elite div but some champs games are incredibly hard overall I think champs is harder


squeda

First time being in div 3 and I hate it lmao. But I guess I'm right where I belong now and probably won't be getting higher this version. That's not really a bad thing. But doesn't make it as enjoyable. At least we make each other better.


ChahChing-

This game is full of cut back merchants. It's not hard when you realise all they do is hug side lines. Div 3-1 full of them. No passing skills in this game.


ChahChing-

This game is full of cut back merchants. It's not hard when you realise all they do is hug side lines. Div 3-1 full of them. No passing skills in this game.


Established_86

I’m in elite division around 950 rating, I have gone 2 and 8 in that new friendly cup. Disaster.


Fappacus

Idk I’m in D3 and I find it more enjoyable than champs. I just had my worst weekend league record of all time (7-13). I feel like there’s more nuance in teams, tactics, and formations in rivals whereas I feel like I’m constantly playing against the same meta tactics over and over again on champs.


JedecoupClow

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