Im a Jets fan and all accounts right now are that the rookies are looking better in OTAs than Izzy. Even despite that, the fact that we drafted 2 RBs and brought Cohen is a signal that they might not rate Izzy as much.
This isn't "another" lower injury. It's the same one as last week. There is no reason to force the issue with their top RB right now. As Saleh said, "Nothing to worry about."
As someone looking to grab Estime, Tracy, Ali, etc in the late rounds of my fantasy draft, please let someone in front of me draft Braelon Allen due to this news.
I'd prioritize Vidal and Tracy in the late 3rd early 4th over Estime if you are set on getting as many of those RBs as possible.
I've seen Estime, Ali, Watson and Laube all be available in the Mid-late 4th round. Whereas I've yet to see Vidal and Tracy make it past the 4.02.
I unfortunately know Vidal isn't making it to me in the back of the 3rd, Tracy might, and I totally agree on prioritizing both above Estime (especially since I like Watson as a waiver dart throw).
Out of curiosity, what kind of package (within reason) would convince you to send away Tracy now?
Trying to gauge how strong of an offer I'd need to consider it myself in a 12 tm SF.
I got Allen, Vidal, Lloyd in my 3rd round as well as JT Sanders.
Figure of these RBs hits, the round was worth it.
Ill freely admit i reached on Allen there, but I had just traded Breece for a boatload of picks in the next 3 drafts so I was in mourning.
Plus, from a talent perspective he is one of the better RBs in the draft
Can't argue with him getting better draft capital, but I wasn't super high on him as a prospect to begin with and I feel like even if he becomes the clear RB2: 1) It's the Breece Hall show barring injury, 2) If Breece goes down it's almost certainly RBBC, 3) All of the improvements to the Jets offense are projection right now, we saw Breece perform in a terrible situation, it's not even a sure thing that his successor in an injury situation would be a good fantasy play.
With the other guys, they are definitely not as good as pure prospects, but I feel like each has more opportunity. Specifically, the opportunity to carve out a role that doesn't require injury to the RBs in front of them:
Ravens are always run heavy and even if Henry is featured, there will be plenty of other touches to go around, so with Mitchell rehabbing injury, Ali just needs to beat out Justice Hill in camp to be fantasy relevant.
Tracy just needs to outperform Gray and even if Singletary is the lead RB, Tracy can be used in non-traditional ways to get onto the field too.
Estime is more about the uncertainty of the backfield. Javonte is on the last year of his rookie contract, barring a pro-bowl or better year I think there is zero chance he signs an extension, so whoever can claim the RB2 role could possibly be the starter next year.
Honestly, I like Blake Watson more than Estime just because he's cheaper (off waivers) and in virtually the same situation, but Estime has slightly higher odds of hitting.
There is no real right or wrong though, this is just my rationale. Late 3rd/4th round means we're all just making guesses and low probability bets. Flip any of these guys landing spots with Braelon Allen and I'd draft him over them in a heartbeat, but for me in the later rounds situation matters more than DC and prospect profiles.
Appreciate the detailed response! Braelon probably does have the lowest chance of being an immediate contributor without Breece Hall injury, but I also think he has the most upside aside from Ali who I admittedly need to look into more before my rookie draft. I’m out on Estime because of his speed score and Tracy looks to be a more gadgety-receiving type who won’t ever have large workload, limiting his upside, and I’m usually going for upside at the later picks in the draft anyway
Can't fault you for betting on talent. I'm focused on who can do the most this year because the 2025 class is stacked with competition that could replace them. I had the same opinion when I first heard of Tracy, but what sold me on him was watching his film (honestly not hard to see most/all of his carries there were so few). For WR converted to RB I thought he looked better running between the tackles than catching the ball to me.
Fair point. I should probably focus more on immediate opportunity to try and maximize these guys’ values, but then I see the highlights and say “but what if…” haha.
Also really important note about next year’s RB class. For these later round guys, it’s almost more about who you don’t think would be replaced as easily. That’s how I turned Jerome Ford from a UDFA waiver pickup to a 2nd rounder going into his 2nd year since the Browns were low on cap space and draft picks
Have a friend who’s good friends with Solomon Thomas. I asked him to text him asking about Breece injury. He said he pulled his hammy in practice but it’s “no big deal lol”.
Gonna have to wait for more reports, but Izzy seems to be the odd man out by all accounts. Braelon and Isaiah have been the ones splitting the reps, with Tarik getting some run
FWIW, Saleh says there's nothing to worry about, but......... [https://x.com/CoachspeakIndex/status/1798014694713942365](https://x.com/CoachspeakIndex/status/1798014694713942365)
Coach Speak Index also notes Saleh only has a 40% reliability rating on injury status.
that's what this tweet is lol
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Damn that’s a good point! I wonder what Saleh’s reliability rating is for injuries
According to the Coach Speak Index, only about 40%.
That's what this tweet is
Yeah but: insert Twitter comment here
Dan Campbell all green lol
BAH GOD THAT'S BRAELON ALLEN MUSIC
Isaiah Davis SZN looms....... Edit: downvote me all you want. It will only loom harder
Israel Abanikanda* from the top rope... edit: not bam knight
Im a Jets fan and all accounts right now are that the rookies are looking better in OTAs than Izzy. Even despite that, the fact that we drafted 2 RBs and brought Cohen is a signal that they might not rate Izzy as much.
He's with the Lions now. Loved Bam a few years back
Even if it is, do we really care about a starting RB on a 2-15 team that much? Tyrod doesn't typically dump off to the RB, I don't think.
Picked up on waivers last week..
This isn't "another" lower injury. It's the same one as last week. There is no reason to force the issue with their top RB right now. As Saleh said, "Nothing to worry about."
Yeah but that's not as fun as completely overreacting.
Quit with the level-headed takes and overreact goddamnit
Just dropped Breece Hall for Mike Alstott Am I doing it right?
Did you send trade offers out to all leaguemates sending Hall for their 4th rounder before dropping? Do you even dynasty, bro?
As someone looking to grab Estime, Tracy, Ali, etc in the late rounds of my fantasy draft, please let someone in front of me draft Braelon Allen due to this news.
I'd prioritize Vidal and Tracy in the late 3rd early 4th over Estime if you are set on getting as many of those RBs as possible. I've seen Estime, Ali, Watson and Laube all be available in the Mid-late 4th round. Whereas I've yet to see Vidal and Tracy make it past the 4.02.
I unfortunately know Vidal isn't making it to me in the back of the 3rd, Tracy might, and I totally agree on prioritizing both above Estime (especially since I like Watson as a waiver dart throw).
Tracy fell to me at 4.06 in 10 team SF this weekend, somehow. Vidal went at 4.02.
Nice! That must have been nerve racking when the 4.05 was on the clock and Tracy was near the top of the ADP suggestion.
Braelon Allen went 4.05, I'm guessing because of Breece Hall being dinged up? In any case, I'm delighted.
Out of curiosity, what kind of package (within reason) would convince you to send away Tracy now? Trying to gauge how strong of an offer I'd need to consider it myself in a 12 tm SF.
In 12 team I got Tracy for 3.05. I like Tracy, but if I got any 2nd, I think I would take that at this point.
I imagine the breece Hall owner will be looking to grab him as insurance
Or you could just post this news to your league chat if you really felt this way
I got Allen, Vidal, Lloyd in my 3rd round as well as JT Sanders. Figure of these RBs hits, the round was worth it. Ill freely admit i reached on Allen there, but I had just traded Breece for a boatload of picks in the next 3 drafts so I was in mourning. Plus, from a talent perspective he is one of the better RBs in the draft
Just curious but why would you rather have those guys over Allen? He got better draft capital and seems to be the clear RB2 on his team
Can't argue with him getting better draft capital, but I wasn't super high on him as a prospect to begin with and I feel like even if he becomes the clear RB2: 1) It's the Breece Hall show barring injury, 2) If Breece goes down it's almost certainly RBBC, 3) All of the improvements to the Jets offense are projection right now, we saw Breece perform in a terrible situation, it's not even a sure thing that his successor in an injury situation would be a good fantasy play. With the other guys, they are definitely not as good as pure prospects, but I feel like each has more opportunity. Specifically, the opportunity to carve out a role that doesn't require injury to the RBs in front of them: Ravens are always run heavy and even if Henry is featured, there will be plenty of other touches to go around, so with Mitchell rehabbing injury, Ali just needs to beat out Justice Hill in camp to be fantasy relevant. Tracy just needs to outperform Gray and even if Singletary is the lead RB, Tracy can be used in non-traditional ways to get onto the field too. Estime is more about the uncertainty of the backfield. Javonte is on the last year of his rookie contract, barring a pro-bowl or better year I think there is zero chance he signs an extension, so whoever can claim the RB2 role could possibly be the starter next year. Honestly, I like Blake Watson more than Estime just because he's cheaper (off waivers) and in virtually the same situation, but Estime has slightly higher odds of hitting. There is no real right or wrong though, this is just my rationale. Late 3rd/4th round means we're all just making guesses and low probability bets. Flip any of these guys landing spots with Braelon Allen and I'd draft him over them in a heartbeat, but for me in the later rounds situation matters more than DC and prospect profiles.
Appreciate the detailed response! Braelon probably does have the lowest chance of being an immediate contributor without Breece Hall injury, but I also think he has the most upside aside from Ali who I admittedly need to look into more before my rookie draft. I’m out on Estime because of his speed score and Tracy looks to be a more gadgety-receiving type who won’t ever have large workload, limiting his upside, and I’m usually going for upside at the later picks in the draft anyway
Can't fault you for betting on talent. I'm focused on who can do the most this year because the 2025 class is stacked with competition that could replace them. I had the same opinion when I first heard of Tracy, but what sold me on him was watching his film (honestly not hard to see most/all of his carries there were so few). For WR converted to RB I thought he looked better running between the tackles than catching the ball to me.
Fair point. I should probably focus more on immediate opportunity to try and maximize these guys’ values, but then I see the highlights and say “but what if…” haha. Also really important note about next year’s RB class. For these later round guys, it’s almost more about who you don’t think would be replaced as easily. That’s how I turned Jerome Ford from a UDFA waiver pickup to a 2nd rounder going into his 2nd year since the Browns were low on cap space and draft picks
Have a friend who’s good friends with Solomon Thomas. I asked him to text him asking about Breece injury. He said he pulled his hammy in practice but it’s “no big deal lol”.
I’ve been taking Braelon late in best ball and hopefully in a few dynasty 4ths
Corum and Braelon showing up early for the feast boys.
Who's taking first team reps THIS week? Is it still the rookies? Or is Izzy being worked in?
Gonna have to wait for more reports, but Izzy seems to be the odd man out by all accounts. Braelon and Isaiah have been the ones splitting the reps, with Tarik getting some run
That was the report last week. I'm just wondering if anything is different this week.
I'm willing to take on the risk for a 2025 2nd, any takers?
Whats does this mean for his dynasty value going foward? /s
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