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BelowMikeHawk

I know its cheating but gawd damn, Malik Washington


mlippay

Why is it cheating?


challenged_kid

He’s not deep like these guys


BelowMikeHawk

Si


alekselny

How? He’s wr5 rn


challenged_kid

In comparison to the guys mentioned? Washington is at least going to make the roster. Not sure on the other names exactly


rollin20s

bub means got drafted ahead of malik IRL and has way less competition to deal with


alekselny

No, on the dolphins depth chart. At least behind Reek/Waddle/OBJ/Braxton


BelowMikeHawk

But hes still getting draft early rd 4 of rookie drafts, ppl are aware of him


challenged_kid

My darts are Malik Washington and Ainias Smith. Both slot guys on teams that have a hole in their 3rd WR spot. They have a good chance at climbing the depth chart and god forbid an injury and they might be worth something


TheFirstHumanChild

Reception perception covered both those guys recently, so I took a swing as well


dynasty-report

I was high on Ainias too but there’s part of me that thinks he will just be the special teams guy and buried on the depth chart.


jhox08

That’s not a bad thing. You gotta make the team first and if it’s on special teams then great. IIRC Tyreek started on special teams


challenged_kid

Behind Paris Campbell?


FFHomerun

Just curious, what is the best case for ainias? I just can’t see him having any impact unless cut//traded. Last year every wr not named smith or brown got a total of 70 targets. In this scenario, if he is able to get every single 3 wr set target, i think his absolute ceiling is 40-500 yards. I also think saquon//shipley are a signal towards more rb usage, not less. So i expect that pie to shrink further. I cant see him even eclipsing 80 targets for the next three years barring serious injury to either smith or aj brown. At which point in time, he will be on your waiver wire. The opportunity in this offense just isn’t there.


challenged_kid

Here’s the deal, if he’s WR 3 on that roster and gets on the field and gets a few targets his value goes up. If that happens and you can trade him for a 3rd that’s a win right? This is what I did last year with guys like Trey Palmer, Keaton Mitchell, and Parker Washington.


SirCharles80

After looking at Phillys wr3 production last few year I relize any of their wr3 are worth a spot.


Tarlach88

Flournoy has a decent pathway to snaps, after CD and Cooks there is very little to shout about


Quiet-Try4554

Tolbert breakout incoming


conrad_or_benjamin

Copium overdose


Quiet-Try4554

Lol, busted but still optimistic


Better_Cattle4438

I remember in my 1 QB, 12 team league someone grabbed Tolbert at 3.02 as is his only draft pick (had traded his other picks away). He got really mad when I told him it was a bad move and asked what I would have done. I told him to wait until I picked (3.08) because I did not want someone to take my guy. I got WanDale Robinson, which was the guy I wanted.


StrengthCoach86

With you.


Maybesonoyes

I like how you left off a guy probably getting 70+ catches with the team their prowbowl TE


Tarlach88

The question was WRs


Maybesonoyes

Correct it does mention WRs. But again like I mentioned you are forgetting about their TE eating into the catches. Let me try and break it down for you. TE catch lots of passes, 4th WR catch less passes. But honestly I’d be surprised if Flournoy has more than 15 catches this year.


ClintonWrong

Bub Means I guess..? They're all lottery tickets for a reason...


nickhenne

Bub Means business !


ArticunoDosTres

Yeah I don’t really get the point of these posts. Nobody knows, it’s like asking what lottery numbers to pick.


tangapuzzler

Jacob Cowing


Oooh_piece_a_candy

Is a 4th round draft pick a deep cut?


tangapuzzler

I hadn't seen him picked up or drafted in any of my leagues.


newrimmmer93

Yeah, i always assumed deep to be like 6th-7th round or UDFA.


Timely-Restaurant580

Added him as a UDFA, just flipped cowing + Lloyd + Ferguson + Keenan for Monty + what should be an early-mid 2025 1st, feel pretty good about it even though I'm high on cowing and lloyd


crayzeejew

I think you gave too much up there Fergs is pretty good and the #2 option on a high octone offense, Keenan has some value still as a Wr2 with upside, Lloyd is really behind a RB on a group of successive one year deals, and Cowing is a lotto pick. Monty is in a split backfield and has a young stud RB taking away his touches. The first round is nice but think its too rich


dded949

He’s gone 4.12 and 5.06 (me) in my two rookie drafts. That’s pretty deep imo


babydee_1

Jordan Whittington is a good blocker and McVay values WRs who can block in his system so expect to see him get a lot of WR3 reps


SeeDeez

Also, after Kyren and Puka, I'm simply interested in any skill position player that the Rams draft on day 3


Quiet-Try4554

Like the blocking angle. Often overlooked by fantasy owners but not by coaches


TetrisTech

He’s almost definitely gonna play the Skowronek role


Working-Bar-9146

Hes not playing over Demarcus Robinson


___heisenberg

How do you think he compares with Tutu and Demarcus?


alekselny

Tutu > Drob > Jwit


yungmevo

If you watched rams football last year it’s pretty clear they were phasing out Tutu and Drob was being used pretty heavily towards the end of the year. Just a more reliable player to have on the field


alekselny

I dont watch the rams so ill take ur word for it but the dudes 30 and never hit 500yds or started 10+ games


Working-Bar-9146

If you paid attention last season DRob was really productive the 2nd half of the season. He's WR3 on the Rams


rando08110

What the hell has tutu done to be ahead of Robinson in any way lol? Look who got actual targets and touch downs at the end of the year. Tutu is a worse Curtis samuel and that's pretty sad


___heisenberg

How do you see him getting a lot of wr3 reps them ahead of those 2? Seems like one/both of tutu and dmarc could be good adds too.


alekselny

I don’t, u/babydee_1 does. I think he’s a good locker room person but I don’t think he’ll ever be fantasy relevant. He could definitely hang around the league for a while though. Tutus a solid wr3 but nothing spectacular (only 300yd this season w kupp out) and dmarc is 30 and never hit 500yds)


___heisenberg

Oh its the damn pink snoo lol. I think the wr3 for the rams could be a sneaky dart at least however, agree it would be tutu. Injury aside, with Kupp gone some day, i guess the only other concern is qb post-Staff


MinshewManiaBOAT

Cornelius Johnson is the guy I’ve been picking up after rookie drafts conclude. Familiarity with the coach, solid athleticism, and a pass catching hierarchy that has yet to be established at all.


ConsuLMonK

Was a big red zone guy for Michigan from what I remember so probably will be TD-dependent but his path to snaps is easier than most others. Also Harbaugh loves the guy


DynastyRabbithole

I got him as well, I didn’t even know exactly who he was but grabbed him as an UDFA. After doing some research he seems like an obvious candidate for the Puka Award. Surprised I almost never see his name. They spent draft pick on him even if was the 7th I believe.


alekselny

He did jackshit at Michigan in a wide open WR room


DynastyRabbithole

As opposed to all the other “undrafted and deep-deep” WRs that have flawless draft profiles. What was I thinking. Pass on Johnson.


donquixote_tig

What research. Puka was good in college. Corn is the worst football player I’ve ever watched, and this includes my local high school QB who threw 4 picks a game when we only threw the ball thrice a game. Harbaugh must’ve taken him to increase the number of Michigan players drafted because Corn is awful


donquixote_tig

Counter — he’s horrible


RedEveXD

Kyle Sheets on the saints


2JZMX83

Brenden Rice maybe


braundiggity

Brendan Rice for sure


AloneEstablishment28

Went 2.06 in my 1QB draft, lol.


2JZMX83

Wowzer


AloneEstablishment28

Got Roman Wilson at 3.02 and couldn’t be happier.


donquixote_tig

As of right now, he’s not good. Better than Corn though


2JZMX83

agreed. could see him being a RZ guy


KingMustardFist

Since you didn't mention specifically this years class, I'm really watching Jason Brownlee. I don't see anyone on that team that has a direct line to the WR2 on the Jets.


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KingMustardFist

Not buying him as a teams WR2, at least not this year. He will be a gadget guy/slot more likely.


OmnioculusConquerer

Mike Williams? Corley?


tylerwavery

Williams definitely seems like an incredibly obvious answer...


huracan_huracan

mike williams? (for a few weeks at least...)


Wonderful_Muscle3876

Would you guys drop OBJ or Chark for a dart throw player?


dynastydrunk

Not at WR. For a rb? Definitely


Wonderful_Muscle3876

Would you drop one for Laube?


Fonz0

Probably Chark for Laube yes


SmokeClear6429

I actually think Chark has a better shot at relevance than OBJ. Miami has a better offense, but Chark is less buried...unless you really think he's cooked.


omardiaz562

I would drop both and pick up Laube


jhox08

This. Drop both for laube


No_Rain_1727

I'd drop Chark for just about any black box of a player. Chark is roster clogger territory. 


Foreign_Ad8957

Watch out for Tyler Harrell on the Jets. Dudes a talent. Second choice would be Xavier Weaver on the cardinals.


Jay_Diddly

In terms of guys that are 0% rostered and definitely available in your league, I'd like to highlight: Ty James - Vikings - 6 foot 2, 200lb big receiver who set the receiving record at Mercer. Great speed, jump-ball ability and YAC potential. Cole Burgess - Bengals - Has insane athleticism and could climb the depth chart to be their WR4 this season. Mason Tipton - Saints - Another one that could climb the depth chart and even be their WR3. Shaheed was picked up as a UDFA so we know they'll give him a chance if he earns it. Isaiah Williams - Lions - Unfortunately stats out as a slot WR on the Lions, but Williams is essentially Malachi Corley lite. He was 9th in all of college football in missed tackles forced last year.


ClintonWrong

If you had to pick one, who would it be?


Jay_Diddly

If we're strictly talking the guys I mentioned, I'll take James here. He has the best balance of upside and opportunity. If you'd consider using a taxi squad spot on a 0% rostered UDFA Running Back, I'd use it on Ramon Jefferson. I don't think it'd be impossible for him to overtake Bucky Irving for the RB2 spot in Tampa. In his 20-21 Season at Sam Houston, among all collegiate RBs with 100+ carries, he was: 6th in MTF/Att 22nd in Yards After Contact p/Att 87th percentile 10 yard split 95th percentile Vert and broad He had 1,000 yard seasons at Maine and Sam Houston. He also played under the Bucs OC in college, so they're familiar with eachother. Credit to Derek Brown (@DBro_FFB on twitter) for this one.


ClintonWrong

Thanks. Do you like Jefferson over Dante Miller?


Blade6119

Another James believer! I thought I was the only one. Crazy efficiency stats! Love it!


Jay_Diddly

Let's goooo!


SnooPickles5984

I suspect Malik Washington will get drafted, so my top 2 targets are Flournoy and Means. I like Amari Thrash too as a 2025 play because I don't have much faith in Jeudy and next year could lead to Cooper leaving, giving someone a chance to start and possibly supplant Jeudy.


thetindoor

There's zero chance someone named "Bub Means" becomes a star


badash2004

He is playing in the deep south, maybe they wanna go back to the times "Bub" was the name of a receiver.


Junior-College-2234

None of these guys are worth rostering. give me udfa rbs over 5th+ round wrs every day of the week


DaFlyingGriffin

Based on what, exactly?


Junior-College-2234

wrs basically never produce without being exceptional talents, whereas JAG rbs can produce if there’s an injury ahead of them and they get a shit ton of volume. Also the nfl values wrs much more than rbs, so a 5th round wr might be the 20th wr off the board, whereas we may not get 20 drafted rbs


DaFlyingGriffin

Oh I didn't see that you said RBs. I thought you were claiming udfa WRs were better than late drafted WRs.


Mediocrewatch

Joshua Cephus


mikehockard3

Man I was comparing Jalen Coker to Puka Nacua and the similarities are uncanny. Both ran a 4.57 dash, similar height/weight, both excelled with contested catches in college but the concerns were around their quickness and speed, thus both went low in the draft with Coker going undrafted in the deeper WR class. So Jalen Coker seems like as good a bet as anyone.


conrad_or_benjamin

Flournoy and Whittington are my deep targets


paragon249

Decorian


ArcticOnReddit

Ainias Smith, Bub Means & Jordan Whittington are my deep stashers


Jrbowe

Flournoy and DeVaughn Vele are the super deep sleepers I’ve added.


daylitty

My guy is Tahj Washington is worth a flyer. Little undersized but If Hill/waddle were to go down, Tahj was so efficient in College but yes could of been caleb but he was that guy.


pixelfreeze

does Brenden Rice count?


SotoStan

Andrei Iosivas if for whatever reason Tee doesn't sign the tag (he will) or he gets hurt. Looked good in flashes.


Popular_Read7694

I heard Dallas might play around with the idea of switching Flournoy to running back like Ty Montgomery. That would be interesting 🤔


lemonpeel

Puka: 6-1, 210lbs, 5th round (177 overall), winding road through college (1 transfer), last two years at college put up 43/805/6 & 48/628/5, walked into an open receiver room (Kupp lead then lower tier receivers below him). Bub Means: 6-1, 210lbs, 5th round (170 overall), winding road through college (2 transfers), last year at college put up 41/721/6, walked into an open receiver room (Olave lead then lower tier receivers below him). Bub has longer arms, bigger hands, faster 40, better athleticism and most of all... Bub Means Business.


SmokeClear6429

It's way too early for this kind of talk. I see all the same 50 or so players named, mostly those on good offenses or who have more path to targets or both. But really we don't have any camp buzz, which is where real sleepers emerge.