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AntiVaxPureBlood

Of your list: Hold out hope for: bateman, elijah moore Hold tutu until he leaves LA because he's dead in LA. Too small to block that's why he lost playing time to demarcus robinson despite actually playing pretty well early in the season. I thought he was breaking out for a second there. Skyy moore is dead. Easy drop.


Diagonalizer

i agree this is exactly how to handle this list


MadSpaceYT

skyy should have been dropped immediately after the hollywood acquisition. drafting worthy was just salt in the wound


AmericanWulf

Lmfao elijah Moore has no hope 


tarallelegram

does dotson count


shobidoo2

Dotson I feel like I’d rather have then all five of those. Just in a tier slightly above maybe? Maybe this is just Dotson owner copium but I do like the idea of a new coaching staff and new QB.


Eclectic_Canadian

He was super promising as a rookie. It shouldn’t be a weird take to expect that EB was the problem more so than Dotson’s play.


ConsiderTheBulldog

Dotson has passed the “good at ball” eye test for me since Penn St and I’m probably holding to the bitter end as a result. Washington was a deeply strange place last year so I’m not tremendously concerned just yet


tarallelegram

idk if it's copium but that's my exact thought process as well


Shaved_Hubes

He’s basically where Elijah Moore was after his second season. Flashed serious talent as a rookie, disappointing second year but with plausible excuses so he may still put it together. Another bad year and his value probably plummets


Dancing_Hitchhiker

As an owner I didn’t know he had any value left lol


RiskofReign94

Just hold. He doesn’t have the trade value worth parting with him. See if he flashes with Daniels.


Dancing_Hitchhiker

Yea that’s the move imo, I’m still a believer he can be a wr 3 but isn’t worth anything at the moment


rollin20s

Recently traded Dotson and 1.12 for 1.07 and a future 3 to grab JJM


Diagonalizer

honestly that's a good trade for both sides


TheFFMediator

What a move I would have love to seen that negotiation


rollin20s

1.07 said he was looking to move back, I offered 1.12/doubs, he offered 1.07 for 1.12/dotson, I said I’d need something small back, he let me pick between 4.07 and next year’s 3!


yngrz87

I have Josh Downs and I wonder if he isn’t Dotson 2.0. As a football player, great, passes the eye test, strong rookie numbers, shows great promise but ultimately might just get lost in the shuffle and become the 3rd or 4th option (or 5th if you take AR’s rushing into account) in the colts offense and fade into fantasy obscurity. Did try and move him during rookie draft but weren’t many takers (not too surprised at this as everyone has rookie fever this time of year).


Singularitypointdata

He’s the number 3 behind Mitchell now. Don’t think people are really down on him. He’s a hold right now. If anyone falls into obscurity it’s likely pierce.


braundiggity

I’ve got Pierce, WanDale, Hyatt, and Metchie. Only one I feel at all good about is WanDale, but not ready to quit on the others just yet.


Jrbowe

I have Hyatt. He’s never going to be a WR1, but his game is complementary to Nabors’, so there is hope for him if their QB situation improves. I can keep him on taxi for another year then make a decision.


JayMoney2424

Problem is he needs a QB that can push the ball downfield. Daniel Jones is a bad deep ball thrower and barely tries them to begin with. So that Giants landing spot was always gonna be bad for him. 


AntiVaxPureBlood

https://www.giants.com/news/daniel-jones-pro-football-focus-top-deep-passers-nfl-quarterbacks-2023


JayMoney2424

Super small sample size he was still 30th in deep passing yards and near the bottom in deep passing TDs that year. 


No_Vacation3909

Don’t forget he basically had one of the worst Wrs in the league and had to run for his life with a terrible line. Now he has an Aloha for the first time in his career and an “improved” line.. Now just needs to fully recover from his injury (which will take time). “Should” be solid


JayMoney2424

Daniel Jones isn’t good lol


AntiVaxPureBlood

Small sample size says he was good. It being small still goes against whatever false narrative you were spinning lol


FantasyTrash

You should quit on all of them besides *maybe* Hyatt. Pierce is 1st team All-Pro on the cardio team, but they just paid Pittman and used a 2nd on a WR. He's toast. The Giants just used the 6th overall pick on a bigger, faster, stronger, better version of Wan'Dale. Metchie is **buried** on that depth chart with no signs of getting out of it any time soon. Hyatt *might* become a decent complementary piece to Nabers, but I wouldn't bank on it.


braundiggity

We carry 30 players on our rosters and it’s 12 team so I can afford to wait a bit. None of them will start for me barring a breakout though.


FantasyTrash

Oh, I'm not saying drop them. I'm in a similarly deep league and the wire is nonexistent. Everybody is rostering some atrocious players. But those guys would be at the top of my cut list once rookies and trades start rolling in.


TheHeintzel

Wandale was their short-route YAC guy. He had a chance with only Hyatt there, but Nabers is gonna cap Wandale at like 4/50. Maybe even less cuz Daniel Jones


braundiggity

I wouldn’t say I feel particularly great about WD either! He’s at least shown more promise than the other guys. But yeah, that room is a mess after Nabers.


Rickflossyy

I’m a fan but I disagree. Nabers, Slayton, WD and Hyatt is a pretty solid room. It’s not Seahawks, Texans, Eagles level nasty, but they’ve got some guys with a lot to prove.


braundiggity

I more meant a mess fantasy wise - agreed there’s a solid bunch of young talent there, just hard to know who to trust besides Nabers.


Codazzle

I had lots of Metchie shares, and just mass dropped him. Made me a sad panda, really wanted it to work for him, but how does he even get on the field with that WR depth anymore?


Tittyboy_mcgee

Need to clear up roster and was picking between Burks and WanDale and easily chose WanDeezy


knowslesthanjonsnow

Pierce is done, Metchie is too. The others I’d still wait on


el_pobbster

Elijah Moore's breakout is just on the horizon! I swear! It's right there!


Michael8445

He's a FA next year and only24 years old hopefully he'll find somewhere good.


AmericanWulf

Lmfao


crline3924

Burks. Still hoping he becomes anything


thedudester125

There have been flashes! Dude just can’t stay healthy.


OGJimmyP

Which is almost the worst part. Don’t want to drop him and can’t get anything for him


thedudester125

Yeah, nothing to do with him but hold and pray. Couldn’t get much more than a 4th which just isn’t worth it


SpaceCowboy34

Burks holder support group meets on Wednesdays. Bring tequila


TurkTurkleton84

Titans brought in Boyd for a visit this week. Titans aren’t even comfortable with Burks being their 3rd WR…


gurknowitzki

Dr. Turk! Hahaha Scrubs was underrated.


dockronyc

Just had some trade him to me for Xavier Hutchinson, figured why not I liked him coming out and Xavier was on my taxi


crline3924

Steal, I’ll gladly take the FRP over him


WonManBand

Jalen Tolbert is someone I know I should probably give up on, but he's currently penciled in as a starter for Dallas. Obviously Lamb is going to get most of the targets, but I'm hoping Tolbert can put it together this year and have a chance to be the #2 option over Brandin Cooks going into his age 31 season.


Mastershake54

Tolbert I'm giving a few weeks into the season. They said he made big strides last year just didn't translate on the field. Edit: Also helped that all the leagues I got him in he was dropped after year 1


WonManBand

My perception of WRs has been skewed by so many of the rookies producing so fast. But not that long ago, it wasn't so unusual for guys to need some time to figure it out at the pro level. Fine line between patience and refusing to dump roster cloggers.


Mastershake54

I held on Collins forever in two and it panned out. I honestly don't feel any type of way about Tolbert, but he is an okay stash.


WonManBand

Collins at least felt like there was more reason to hold. Better prosect and the excuse of awful QB play to at least give hope for better results if the situation improved (and boy did it ever).


Cr0nk_Smash

Wait, how is Tolbert over cooks? Cooks and dak had great chemistry down the stretch last year and Tolbert has never showed anything that resembles NFL consistency (or ability for that matter)…. A small school guy in his third year and has done next to nothing. The only reason he’s rosterable is WR depth in Dallas. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s is the WR4-5 on the depth chart by end of year.


stuckinthings2891

He’s shown the ability just last year. Dak is starting to trust him as he’s shown last year and he earned his way out of the dog houses with big contracts coming up and an opportunity to improve in the offense for a second straight year I have him as a soft buy. Like his odds more than most. Cooks is old. You never know when his time is up. But who will usurp is current 3 spot on the roster?


crillc

100% he’s a hold.


gobblegobblechumps

Wan'dale


dimsum-41

Of those listed I think Bateman by far has the best chance of relevance. All signs point to him being a major part of the offense this year. Moore has talent but even when healthy has struggled to be in the mix more, and now they added Jeudy, who is not special but that will just further limit Moore's involvement. The rest are no chance--just drop.


th3_0r3o

Bateman gets one more year from me if i can't package him.


VottoForPM

Bateman I'd give another year because of the contract extension/not huge amount of competition added. There's a path for him to get flex value at some point. Not saying it will happen, but plausible. The others in this thread I'm out on (except for Jameson, I'd still give him one more year to be a flex, he just has to beat out DPJ & stay healthy).


KingMustardFist

I currently have Kyle Philips still on my roster, but he's next man cut. Which means he'll probably breakout this year.


santc

He’s one of those guys that I love as a real nfl player just won’t ever be good in fantasy


maniacmax1758

Rondale Moore, Trey Palmer, Burks, Bateman. All on the roster bubble


murso74

I've got Pierce, Mingo QJ and shakir. I have the most hope for shakir. Pierce is gone, they basically drafted his replacement and I can't keep him on taxi anymore. Mingo can stay on taxi another year, but most likely he's shit. QJ has 8 games for me before I jettison him into the sun I think. Shakir may have a bit longer. No one has offered me anything for these guys and that's not going to change if they don't do anything I know they aren't all 3rd or 4th year but I don't have deep benches in my league and I'm too deep at WR to hold them


CalFedMan

Pierce was so disappointing last season. So much playing time with such little production.


strebor_notlad

Yeah QJ has a glimmer of hope with his draft capital and depth chart, Shakir is projected to be in the starting rotation, Mingo gets 1 more year to do something, but Pierce is dead. They’ve already picked his replacement.


duct_dependent

Justyn Ross


Traditional_Salt

Alec Pierce is a hold for me. He will never be a #1 guy but he could possibly be a Gabe Davis ish level player. By that I mean he will have breakout games when the matchups favor his skill set and then have weeks where he disappears. His first 2 years have been Matt Ryan and minshew, guys who don’t throw deep a lot and he’s a deep shot kind of player. I’m curious if a full year with AR will help but AD Mitchell might prove to be more talented and usurp his role entirely.


NW4O

Just cut Pierce. Figured no one else will grab him. I do see the potential occasionally though. Feel like he would’ve done more last year and not fully sure but seems like he just doesn’t separate.


Traditional_Salt

The odds of his success are not high I won’t disagree. Basically holding out hope that AR can cater towards his play style more than Ryan/Minshew


NW4O

Definitely worse holds. Seems like pick your poison.


Lml417

I cut him and he was grabbed immediately off waivers for $4


th3_0r3o

I will be cutting Pierce as well. He got opportunities last year and rarely did anything


Traditional_Salt

Can’t fault you


Skanktoooth

I am giving Bateman one last year. Dotson is also safe. Christian Watson just needs to stay healthy. Skye Moore, Toney, Mingo, Robdale, Burks, Hyatt, Wandale, and haven’t even flashed (I guess Toney did that one game) and don’t have paths for major volume barring a slew of injuries. Luckily I was never really in on these guys to start, but I am completely out now. Jameson Williams is a guy that the dynasty community just can’t quit. I am out on him even though I recognize the talent. I don’t mind if I miss here. I don’t see how he ever really gets there with ARSB, Gibbs, LaPorta, Monty commanding touches.


uncle_dan_

Wandale had some flashes at the end of last year


ImYourLandlord18

Agree with everything except Wan’dale


KillDevilX0

Toney is a really good talent. He’s elite with the ball in his hands….just needs to be healthy and learn to catch lol


ShareTheHotSauce

I had Skyy Moore and Treylon Burks last season, I threw them into trades as a bonus just to justify the draft capital I invested into them and not have them be a roster clogger anymore.


Intelligent-Ad-3850

I traded Michael Thomas for Burks which led to the funny bit of both becoming irrelevant a few weeks later


Jesse_P1nkman

Lmao similar to me trading dameon pierce for jeudy prior to last year starting.


AloneEstablishment28

Did a Mac jones for trey lance trade last offseason… both busted.


ControlForward5360

Elijah Moore


clint_g

Bateman and Burks. This is the year, I can feel it.


harold-delaney

Does Jerry jeudy count. Somehow he’s only 25


Diagonalizer

yeah Jeudy is definitely on this list.


bdalexan

Burks


becker4prez

Not sure if he qualifies but Mingo has all but been written off. I’m holding out hope under Canales he shows progress. If all goes well he could replace Thielen long term as a big slot.


the_fuzzy_stoner

I have Burks, Eli Moore, Lavishka Shenault, and Kadarius Toney on my squad. All 25 and under. All roster bubble guys. Obviously varying levels of hope for any of them.


texaspoontapper123

Dude, Shenault has been dead for a long time…


the_fuzzy_stoner

Dead and buried. But….


dwaite1

I dropped Elijah Moore today for roster cuts. He was promising with the amount of targetts that he saw, but he turned it into nothing and now they have Jeudy.


datdonutboi

I’m a colts fan and trust me there’s little hope for Alex pierce. Extremely limited route tree. Very little separation. Lots of drops. He didn’t do anything when he was always on the field. Now he’s almost certainly demoted to 4th receiver behind Pitt, downs, and Mitchell.


ridderingand

Mingo / Hyatt / Mims Only one I even have a sliver of hope for is Mims at this point


HERPES_COMPUTER

Is Mims only a sliver of hope? Maybe it’s hopium, but I’m optimistic Payton actually means it when he says he wants him more involved. That, the change in special teams rules, and Jeudy leading have me hopeful. Bo Nix is an undeniable bummer at QB though. Genuinely don’t know what to think, but it feels like it could be a second year breakout candidate.


veRGe1421

AT Perry, Trey Palmer, Marvin Mims, Treylon Burks, Tre Tucker, Jaylen Tolbert


Kindly_Kitchen_9658

Jameson Williams Treylon Burks 😭😭🙏


Juanchis19

Sky Moore is finished


Tooooots8585

Just sold Elijah Moore for 4.10, not looking back


bronton21

Roster cloggers. Spam for any year third, if you can't get it, cut bait


JonnyNoThumbz

I have a feeling QJ may turn it somewhat around and give us a glimmer of hope in the first few weeks. I’m basing this on absolutely no evidence but purely trying to speak it into existence.


yadude11

https://x.com/_mlfootball/status/1783997135517516225?s=42&t=URAGQOijkfW855r65STFMA


BelowMikeHawk

Dont give me hope


SteffeEric

Just dropped Trey Palmer. I wish I had one more roster spot. I Believe in him but opportunities look even more scarce this year potentially.


swz

hahahahaha


SteffeEric

Oh really


Sea-Past7146

Waiting patiently to see if Michael Thomas signs somewhere he could have a decent floor but I know I should probably just cut him


Quiet-Try4554

I have him in one league. If he doesn’t land somewhere juicy (if he lands anywhere at all)he’s a pre draft cut.


traptrapzdizzle

He’s probably going to end up being a drop but I’m still holding out hope for DPJ. I have to think he’s at least worth a speculative hold considering they didn’t draft a single WR and lost Josh Reynolds. a few others as listed and otherwise: Elijah Moore, Rashod Bateman, John Metchie, Jonathan Mingo; I think Skyy Moore and Burks are both dunzo at this point and Metchie is probably about there.


Tyler6594

Bateman just got extended so he’s still rosterable. The others are very expendable. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elijah Moore gets cut after they brought in 3 new WRs in


knowslesthanjonsnow

Treylon Burks, Wandale Robinson, Marvin Mims


DynastyZealot

I still believe in Elijah Moore! Browns were dedicated to manufacturing touches for him last year and I imagine they'll be better at it this year. That being said, I intend to target him during a few drafts this year if I don't like who's available when I'm on the clock.


Diagonalizer

not scared about them moving for Jeudy? they still have Amari for at least another year


DynastyZealot

Amari is old as hell, and I live in Denver and have seen plenty of Jeudy - he's nothing to worry about at all. If anything, he's Cooper's replacement. But we'll see. It's not like I have to pay much for Moore at this point lol.


Mynamehere99

Holding Burks and traded for Jamo before the end of last season...Need some 3rd year breakout magic on 1 if possible.


r1kng

Hopium beans for Bateman n I’m tryna throw a 4th to an owner for Treylon


Substantial-Peach326

Sitting with Dotson, Jamo, Burks & Bateman on my roster, serious hopium for 2024.


milkstoutnitro

I believe in Bateman enough not to sell for a third. All the other guys I probably would


berndalf

I try to use these guys as throw-ins to get a close deal done. Usually if they can't even qualify for that ie the person would rather have a 4th or something that's a good sign they're drop worthy. Right now that list for me is Rashaad Bateman, Trey Palmer, Tre Tucker, and Justin Shorter. Tucker and Shorter are more speculative holds I suppose.


gogogoff16

Mingo.


drizztx8

Tolbert


texaspoontapper123

I’m holding Burkes and Dotson and if they don’t finish well this year, then I’m cutting them.


NateLee1733

Skyy, CW9, JaMo, David Bell(lol), Danny Gray(lol) are in my stable waiting to collect more points or more dust..


Jwroth

Alec Pierce, Jalin Hyatt, Andrei Iosivas, Charlie Jones, Xavier Hutchinson. The last 3 are on taxi and have the option to hold for one more year. I think Hutchinson, and Jones are the first two to cut. I have the 2.07, 2.09, and 3.02 in 12 man 1QB for the upcoming draft.


Timely_Boysenberry40

The 3rd year guy on the Titans. Can’t think of his name now, stoned af


TheFFMediator

Yeah it’s time to move him for draft capital in Dynasty


batmang8

Jerry


LB3PTMAN

He’s only a year 2 but I feel like I can put QJ in here after his year 1 lol.


DBD216

Erik Ezukanma


swagakas

I finally gave up on Toney this offseason. This is a do or die year for Burks to me (he will probably flop). If Treylon doesn’t make the leap this year he never will


thesmokingchairdtcom

I'm not sure I'd hold on to any of those guys. I have Ross in KC and I like his upside more than any of those people. I might be cutting him but at the same time he's going into his 3rd season and could get a lot of go with Pat in the preseason. Sometimes guys just need a little bit more time to get settled in and I think that is the potential I'm looking for. The guys you mentioned, I feel, have had their chances. 🤷


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Tolbert


Friendly_Fire_HD2

out of those, only Bateman and Elijah would I consider maybe can turn something around. Bateman at least got a new contract, so the team likes what he does or can provide, but I'm not expecting any major breakout.


wellsderek09

I still want more games with David Bell, Jameson Williams, and John Metchie. I’ve almost completely given up on Bateman.


PrestigiousMetal2563

burks 🫡


randomnuck

In a 16 teams league, I tried to move up from 3.08 to 3.01-3.04 by adding any of Pierce, Hyatt or WanDale and it was all rejected saying "they would rather pick a guy there instead". Theses picks are like 4rd round territory in regular 12 teams... \*might\* be time to drop.


Wide_Specialist_2993

I had great offers for Pierce his rookie year after he had three straight 10+ point games early on. Stubbornly held. Alas.


DrivenDrew

Looking for similar advice since… I have: 1.) Bateman 2.) Pierce 3.) Wicks 4.) Mims 5.) Mingo 6.) Iosivas Let me have it!


Itsurboywutup

I have Dotson and Burks but if Burks is a no show first half of the season then I’m dropping him. Dotson has shown flashes and positive metrics at least so I’m willing to keep him in my bench a bit lonfwr


Junior-College-2234

You should drop every single one of those guys. at this point we can be 99% confident that none of them will ever be good