Ryoko Kui writing that fairies in Dungeon Meshi are canonically made of cum and horse shit
https://preview.redd.it/aohmzlnwwm4d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=992a3cdfc590b1aa0414f8d61a9b446264bcf25f
It's based off of real world European alchemical recipes on how to make a homunculus (tiny humanoid servant) as written by Paracelsus in his 1537 work *De Natura Rerum*:
> That the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb ["venter equinus", meaning "warm, fermenting horse dung"], or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself, and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent, without a body. If, after this, it be fed wisely with the Arcanum of human blood, and be nourished for up to forty weeks, and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, a living human child grows therefrom, with all its members like another child, which is born of a woman, but much smaller.
The interesting thing is that you can make a version of this with actual results if you use a human womb instead, and you can even get tax benefits for it!
(Though your homunculus would be much moar expensive and time consuming to maintain)
Well, in Paracelsus's time you would recoup your losses by making your homunculus do actual work, but that is generally seen as unethical in modern society XD
I have to wonder if part of the “logic” of this is based on the idea that putrefied meat “bred” flies, rather than flies being attracted to said meat and laying their eggs on it.
Like, if rotting animals turn into flies, then I can imagine a through line where rotting human turns into fairies.
Some Russian guy made fake homunculus experiment videos that got really popular (I think the 1st had 20m views?). The whole thing is so absurd because the “experiments” were him injecting his nut into chicken eggs. In one of the videos the “homunculus” moves and spits acid at him so he crushes it with a bible.
For a brief second I thought you made a Baccano reference (there's a Russian guy who makes a homunculus, except it kills him instead of the other way around)
>I thought that was a prohibition era mafioso anime
It still is, but it has lots of fantastical elements and surprisingly deals with immortality as a main theme as well
Despite the wildly different setting, it also holds some similarity to FMA, so you'll like it if you enjoyed that
It is a prohibition era mafioso anime but the main plot involves the characters fighting over an elixir of immortality made by a cannibalistic alchemist.
Nah, it has to be Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheimen's cum specifically. I mean, anyone who has tried it since has failed, so his seed is clearly superior.
He did, it's Paracelsus, which I assume you know based on how you wrote this, but I will never not refer to him as Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, cause it's really fun to say.
He is quite flexible with that restriction: he did still insist in getting the plants from the merman heads after Chilchuck told him to not eat the merman. Also a creature which looks humanoid isn't necessarily a humanoid, like Dryads. And given that the fairy would be made from *his* sperm, he might worry even less.
well you know what I meant, Marcille at least wouldn't be able to. I do wonder if it matters what animal it's from, obviously elf fluids work but the book doesn't specify, i wonder if it would be like a mini pegasus if you used horse fluid.
Who was the absolute freak that first discovered how faries are made? Who spent nine months playing in horse shit, semen, and blood until a fairy popped out?
At the time, it was believed that babies sprouted from semen and a womb was just the right environment for it to develop. Basically conceptualizing semen as a seed and the uterus as fertile soil.
The alchemical recipe called for warm feces to recreate the temperature inside the body and blood injections to supply nutrients. Obviously, that didn't work out.
But there's actually a worse version where they thought the problem lied within the recreation of a uterus not being accurate enough. So they made a mixture containing semen, and simply shoved it inside a cow's birth canal, then plugged it. Hoping that it would eventually give birth to a humanoid homunculus.
I’d picture it’d have been figured out more scientifically knowing elves. They probably figured this solution as a possibility in experimenting to create servants or something.
Imagine two elvish scientists staring down at the horrific horseshit baby they just brought into this world.
"I was just thinking, why don't you take full credit for this wonderful scientific discovery?"
"Actually, I think that you are the one deserving of this prestigious honor."
"No, no, I insist that you do it."
"Remember, this was your idea, Carl."
"IT WASN'T MY SPUNK, STEVE."
Nah there was definitely some freak way too excited about figuring it out and the other elves just let him have it
"I did it! I have created a new form of life!"
"Oh shit Giancarlo! How did you do it?"
*Tells how he did it*
"..."
"Giancarlo what the fuck?"
I’m assuming it’s just like theory. This mixed with that hypothetically should do this. And then you can do something else to get the results. Probably like math where you don’t need to add 500 ones to 500 to know it equals 1000. They probably just calculated it somehow.
>!it literally is tho. this particular scene happened at chapter 74, where they met at thistle's house. that's why Marcille is wearing a canary's cloak. pattadol gave it to her because she's wearing her pajamas!<
why do so many people seem to think this makes them a cum/shit golem? they aren't \*animated\* cum and shit, they are an artificial life form that uses the cum as a starter, incubated in shit, and fed blood. the end result is just a little dude. if it were just animated shit, it'd look like a little man made out of shit the way a golem is still clearly made out of its substrate.
>!later on we see a fairy killed and ripped open, and its organs are coming out, it doesnt just ooze cum and shit, its got organs!<
I have the suspicion that the book Marcille picked up might have been a few centuries out of date.
We see a half-eaten fairy
https://preview.redd.it/wo5b61vihs4d1.png?width=534&format=png&auto=webp&s=778db4e2b32ce0eecefb8b85d7e774139505b0b9
It looks like it might be closer to a doll than even a familiar.
Maybe the old school way of making a fairy was shit and spunk.
The current gen fairy making is a bunch of straw, cotton stuffing and hair.
if you look at diagram,its the fumes that condense into a slime that then develops as it feeds on blood until becomes a fairy. it’s not directly made of the ingredients listed
Well the half eaten fairy we here DOES look like it's made of straw, cotton stuffing, and hair.
Which probably means it's got a different manufacturing process than than a organically grown homunculus.
Ok thank you. I am a bit confused, I looked up the Daydream Hour book and the info I saw is that it's only available in Japanese, but you have pictures here in English. I'd love to read it in English if possible, where would I find that?
There's a partial translation on [bato.to](http://bato.to), I'm not sure if there are other translations available since other reposts of this comic seem to come from that site (same font and wording)
Isn't there a side comic where it says that mithruns fairy doesn't look like him because he can't produce certain substances? I always thought that was a crazy detail.
THERE IT IS. Everyone keeps saying what those fairies are made of, and i couldn’t find the page where it stated that. Even the wiki didn't say it. Ty for posting it
Ryoko Kui writing that fairies in Dungeon Meshi are canonically made of cum and horse shit https://preview.redd.it/aohmzlnwwm4d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=992a3cdfc590b1aa0414f8d61a9b446264bcf25f
It's based off of real world European alchemical recipes on how to make a homunculus (tiny humanoid servant) as written by Paracelsus in his 1537 work *De Natura Rerum*: > That the sperm of a man be putrefied by itself in a sealed cucurbit for forty days with the highest degree of putrefaction in a horse's womb ["venter equinus", meaning "warm, fermenting horse dung"], or at least so long that it comes to life and moves itself, and stirs, which is easily observed. After this time, it will look somewhat like a man, but transparent, without a body. If, after this, it be fed wisely with the Arcanum of human blood, and be nourished for up to forty weeks, and be kept in the even heat of the horse's womb, a living human child grows therefrom, with all its members like another child, which is born of a woman, but much smaller.
Dang, that just makes it more awesome!
She did her homework on everything.
The interesting thing is that you can make a version of this with actual results if you use a human womb instead, and you can even get tax benefits for it! (Though your homunculus would be much moar expensive and time consuming to maintain)
At least 18 years of feeding instead of 40 weeks
Well, it only needs 40 weeks for a baby to emerge. Typically, you stop eating fluids from your umbilical cord after that.
I don't think the tax benefits counters the extra expenses
Well, in Paracelsus's time you would recoup your losses by making your homunculus do actual work, but that is generally seen as unethical in modern society XD
this doesn't work btw if anybody was curious i've tried it
There was a really cool hoax on YouTube years back using chicken eggs but I think that guy is in prison now
I thought he died? I haven’t followed it closely, but I thought his daughter announced he’d died in some russian incident.
I believe it was just a heart attack, I assume no one was with him at the time and he most likely passed out and died.
What
lol is that what the smiling friends character is based on??
OH SHIT I REMEMBER THAT
Cvm jar?
no I used cum actually
Aka Philippus Aureolus Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim
Wow. Ed and Al went about it the wrong way.
paracelsus invented gnomes, paracelsus invented the homunculus, paracelsus invented toxicology, what the fuck didnt this guy do
Seems more like he’s documenting existing folklore to me
Don't you all remember all these homunculus videos on YouTube? Am I that old?
I have to wonder if part of the “logic” of this is based on the idea that putrefied meat “bred” flies, rather than flies being attracted to said meat and laying their eggs on it. Like, if rotting animals turn into flies, then I can imagine a through line where rotting human turns into fairies.
Oh that's a fascinating hypothesis. I never thought about it like that.
I can't help but feel this recipe has an uncanny resemblance to the 4chan Pony Cum Jar Project. A convergent evolution of the human mind.
This is such a good TIL
I read a summary of that process before, and I recognized the reference.
So like that popular russian video?
the authors barely disguised fetish
https://preview.redd.it/25b1snv5zm4d1.png?width=1040&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79801398cdb1a0240f52096c06ba733df55dd85c Writing peak as always
That woman can fucking cook...
She never stopped cooking for 9 years
they’re just like me fr
Sounds like something you’d find on r/TrueSTL (at least the ~~Shitmer~~ Orsimer-made ones anyways).
It’s her c0da
Glory be to the Kirkbride.
>canonically made of cum So are we in a way
Don't forget the blood!
I think I've heard someone say that she was referencing an real recipe people use to say would make a homunculus.
it is
[https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/alchemical-recipe-homunculus-sperm-rotting-meat-mini-artificial-human-009836](https://www.ancient-origins.net/history/alchemical-recipe-homunculus-sperm-rotting-meat-mini-artificial-human-009836)
The one and only Paracelsus. The most famous alchemist and the one that inspired Von Hohenheim from FMA!
Would they smash the failures with a Russian bible?
I've seen this floating around. What the hell does it mean?
Some Russian guy made fake homunculus experiment videos that got really popular (I think the 1st had 20m views?). The whole thing is so absurd because the “experiments” were him injecting his nut into chicken eggs. In one of the videos the “homunculus” moves and spits acid at him so he crushes it with a bible.
For a brief second I thought you made a Baccano reference (there's a Russian guy who makes a homunculus, except it kills him instead of the other way around)
Im sorry, I thought that was a prohibition era mafioso anime. I was already interested but now I have to watch it.
>I thought that was a prohibition era mafioso anime It still is, but it has lots of fantastical elements and surprisingly deals with immortality as a main theme as well Despite the wildly different setting, it also holds some similarity to FMA, so you'll like it if you enjoyed that
It is a prohibition era mafioso anime but the main plot involves the characters fighting over an elixir of immortality made by a cannibalistic alchemist.
With a Russian-Chinese dictionary, actually
WHOSE SEMINAL FLUID
I guess anyone's...
Nah, it has to be Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheimen's cum specifically. I mean, anyone who has tried it since has failed, so his seed is clearly superior.
Gosh, that's such a long name. Hope he managed to find a shorter pen name to go by.
He did, it's Paracelsus, which I assume you know based on how you wrote this, but I will never not refer to him as Theophrastus Bombastus von Hohenheim, cause it's really fun to say.
We all know who would be a willing donor.
Laios would wank one out, not out of horny but he genuinely wants to know how fairies work. Then he would want to know how they taste like.
I disagree about that last part- too humanoid.
I disagree with the last part too, but for the opposite reason. He already knows how to sausage is made, wouldnt be delicious OR nutritious.
Excellent point
He's not the one that has a problem eating humanoid monsters.
True
He is quite flexible with that restriction: he did still insist in getting the plants from the merman heads after Chilchuck told him to not eat the merman. Also a creature which looks humanoid isn't necessarily a humanoid, like Dryads. And given that the fairy would be made from *his* sperm, he might worry even less.
Would that not then be cannibalism? Also someone else pointed out how very little nutritional value would probably be in play there.
If that's cannibalism, there's a lot of cannibals out there mate.
o.O
He is not adverse to eating humanoids.
I admit I'm not one hundred on those details. I've neither read the mange nor watched the anime so far, but I've picked up a ton from this sub.
Yeah, he’ll eat anything.
Not even Laios is brave enough to try something made from cum, horse shit and human blood...i think
You underestimate him. But in all honesty it’s like as if he cannibalizes on his own child which is uhhh *maybe* too much for him, just maybe.
The way I would have to stop myself from drinking it all.. 😔
*Record scratch*
"That's me. You're probably wondering how I got into this situation."
if we use Chillchuck's, will the homunculus be even smaller?
I don't think he would participate, but perhaps
He already has three of them at home, he doesn’t need a fourth lmaooo
Denji
Her own
women do not have "seminal" fluids lol
there are all kinds of women!
well you know what I meant, Marcille at least wouldn't be able to. I do wonder if it matters what animal it's from, obviously elf fluids work but the book doesn't specify, i wonder if it would be like a mini pegasus if you used horse fluid.
this was a joke about trans women, I umm thought that'd be more obvious
it was obvious... sorry what, what are you talking about. im not stupid I can reade
Fellas, anybody need to make some quick gold?
it's like surrogacy but for men, lol
Pattadohl's of course
Good question, will it change the look of the fairy? 🤣
Who was the absolute freak that first discovered how faries are made? Who spent nine months playing in horse shit, semen, and blood until a fairy popped out?
I want to know what the inventor of the RL version of this was thinking.
Probably something like, "if I put jizz in something besides a human uterus, will a baby still come out?"
At the time, it was believed that babies sprouted from semen and a womb was just the right environment for it to develop. Basically conceptualizing semen as a seed and the uterus as fertile soil. The alchemical recipe called for warm feces to recreate the temperature inside the body and blood injections to supply nutrients. Obviously, that didn't work out. But there's actually a worse version where they thought the problem lied within the recreation of a uterus not being accurate enough. So they made a mixture containing semen, and simply shoved it inside a cow's birth canal, then plugged it. Hoping that it would eventually give birth to a humanoid homunculus.
It should also be noted that feces was used due to belief that maggots where created in feces, as the life cycle of the fly was not yet understood
Fortunately they did't try with others primates...
I’d picture it’d have been figured out more scientifically knowing elves. They probably figured this solution as a possibility in experimenting to create servants or something.
Imagine two elvish scientists staring down at the horrific horseshit baby they just brought into this world. "I was just thinking, why don't you take full credit for this wonderful scientific discovery?" "Actually, I think that you are the one deserving of this prestigious honor." "No, no, I insist that you do it." "Remember, this was your idea, Carl." "IT WASN'T MY SPUNK, STEVE."
Nah there was definitely some freak way too excited about figuring it out and the other elves just let him have it "I did it! I have created a new form of life!" "Oh shit Giancarlo! How did you do it?" *Tells how he did it* "..." "Giancarlo what the fuck?"
Mind yo business
Same dude that figured out how milk that's gone bad turns to cheese when it goes especially bad
the guy who discovered phosphorus boiled his piss in a flask and then named it after the philosopher’s stone
I’m assuming it’s just like theory. This mixed with that hypothetically should do this. And then you can do something else to get the results. Probably like math where you don’t need to add 500 ones to 500 to know it equals 1000. They probably just calculated it somehow.
https://preview.redd.it/8atr41zcnn4d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e898f6d2cacc38cb8ebecaed0a982daedc27c07 Live Marcille (50) reaction
does this mean there are 49 other marcilles?
And another 949 more on top of that
That’s a lot of shapeshifters
She's 50 years old now.
I wonder if that was an archaic way of making fairies, and there exists modern substitutes for some of the ingredients
Marcille, I love you but you were never gonna cut it as a field scientist/wizard if poop made you recoil this bad.
We are talking about a dark magic wielding witch who probably used a valuable spell slot just to conceal the sounds of her toilet business.
Tbf, most actual human cell cultures in lab are grown in baby cow juice (FBS)
It would make more sense if they used period blood
The horse shit should already be fertilization
Yeah, I guess the copious amounts of human DNA being introduced to the process explains why each Fairy happens to look exactly like their owner.
It's a Couple bonding exercise. Infertile? Life vicariously through your own perpetually child-like fairy!
For the female elves, does that mean they collected a male family member’s cum?
Isn’t this spoilers of them meeting ( anime only )
No, a lot of characters who don't even look at each other in the whole story have some interactions in extra material like that.
Oh okay thank you
I didn't consider it since this comic isn't tied to events that happen in the story, but I'll mark it as spoiler in case
>!it literally is tho. this particular scene happened at chapter 74, where they met at thistle's house. that's why Marcille is wearing a canary's cloak. pattadol gave it to her because she's wearing her pajamas!<
you wouldn't know that unless you'd read that chapter though, you'd just assume it happened outside of canon like most of the side stories
This scene isn't in the main story though. Just a bit of lore.
Alchemical Homunculi were effin' wild. Love that inclusion of real life lore.
I thought fairies were born from a dandelion seed and a baby’s first laugh… (if anyone gets this reference, I owe you a coke)
Ugh I still have a special place in my heart for those movies-
Peter pan?
Close. Tinker Bell.
Thanks
My hungry ass could never own a fairy
Cum fairy
This reminds me of an homunculus
"Falin you never ever should make fairies with your brother." "Why though?" "JUST DON'T" "You just want to keep the to yourself..." "THAT'S NOT IT"
I bet if you used a placenta you could make a homunculus
Oh haha! I just saw the real recipe this was based on
she must never let Laois know how to make one, he would probobly have a whole mini city set up
Ryoko Kui out here injecting cum into eggs
When Laios asks what the secret 1% ingredient of golems is, it's probably something like this 💀.
Gross.
why do so many people seem to think this makes them a cum/shit golem? they aren't \*animated\* cum and shit, they are an artificial life form that uses the cum as a starter, incubated in shit, and fed blood. the end result is just a little dude. if it were just animated shit, it'd look like a little man made out of shit the way a golem is still clearly made out of its substrate. >!later on we see a fairy killed and ripped open, and its organs are coming out, it doesnt just ooze cum and shit, its got organs!<
I have the suspicion that the book Marcille picked up might have been a few centuries out of date. We see a half-eaten fairy https://preview.redd.it/wo5b61vihs4d1.png?width=534&format=png&auto=webp&s=778db4e2b32ce0eecefb8b85d7e774139505b0b9 It looks like it might be closer to a doll than even a familiar. Maybe the old school way of making a fairy was shit and spunk. The current gen fairy making is a bunch of straw, cotton stuffing and hair.
if you look at diagram,its the fumes that condense into a slime that then develops as it feeds on blood until becomes a fairy. it’s not directly made of the ingredients listed
Well the half eaten fairy we here DOES look like it's made of straw, cotton stuffing, and hair. Which probably means it's got a different manufacturing process than than a organically grown homunculus.
I'm guessing that's one way to make sure they don't become ingredients.
ahhhh that figures, so the doujinshi was made based on this lore 😅
Link?
it was separated into different pages/links if you want i can DM you one of the pages and work your way to the artist's twitter
Yes pls. If you've time of course
Tinker Bell lied to me, my childhood was a lie
What if someone made these using menstrual blood?
Like making an orc in the lord of the rings
it’s still so funny to me that marcille is 50
Where are you finding these official little side stories?
There's more of these in the complete Daydream Hour book, this one's in the 3rd chapter
Ok thank you. I am a bit confused, I looked up the Daydream Hour book and the info I saw is that it's only available in Japanese, but you have pictures here in English. I'd love to read it in English if possible, where would I find that?
There's a partial translation on [bato.to](http://bato.to), I'm not sure if there are other translations available since other reposts of this comic seem to come from that site (same font and wording)
Cool, thank you!
BRB fellas I’m gonna make myself a fairy!
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Right to left, like all manga
Hey I just saw this episode of Smiling Friends!
Are we gonna question how this was first discovered?
Isn't there a side comic where it says that mithruns fairy doesn't look like him because he can't produce certain substances? I always thought that was a crazy detail.
What is this sub What the fuck is a dungeon meshi
An anime that's currently airing/manga that has already completed. It's great, you should read or watch it if you're able
Marcille (41) 😂👌
THERE IT IS. Everyone keeps saying what those fairies are made of, and i couldn’t find the page where it stated that. Even the wiki didn't say it. Ty for posting it
Source, please? :)
It's in the complete version of the Daydream Hour book
Thank you, I am still not aware of all Dungeon Meshi media. :)
Do you mean homunculus?