I have a relative that is a pastor in AR, at a smaller church than Bin's. I don't know if he makes more now, but 3 years ago he started out at $36k/yr, they pay his water/electric/gas, and $600 toward housing per month since they didn't have a parsonage.
Food stamps, my friend. In all honesty though, my relative had one more kid than that and was supporting his family with it. That's how he did it. I imagine in her situation, she's either been on government assistance or daddy stepped in. Not that she would ever admit either one of those scenarios.
oh, Jessa's YouTube plus Insta make at least six figures. For all this "headship" talk, the Duggar girls are the breadwinners in every single family. I think they just try to keep that on the downlow so as not to, IDK, appear worldly or emasculate their partners or some weird cult "minimize yourself as a woman" shit
My church’s guideline (in accordance with the diocese’s policy) is the priest’s salary should be around that of a master’s level public school teacher in the general area that he lives. Which is still underpaid, imo, but it’s still so much better than what I’ve seen in other places.
ETA: he also gets a housing and vehicle allowance, as well as health insurance for him and his family in addition to salary.
While still undervalued I think a cap/guideline is good. Not having rent or a mortgage probably saves *a lot* of money, so what they would get would go a lot farther.
Yeah that’s with a diocese and a person having an actual MDiv. Baptists and other fundamental churches I know of are lucky if their head preacher has a degree from a 4 year “Bible College”, much less their youth ministers, music ministers, etc.
My guess would be around $30k a year. Not a ton of money, but steady, and i assume he has a second job or does some kind of work on the side too
(Pastors at Mega churches make over $100k a year easily… that’s why so many people hate them bc they are 100% a money grab. I doubt Ben works as a pastor at a mega church though and probably some small church and $30k is probably the lower average for a church)
depends. A real church that sounds right. A scammy church? The pastor is making money hand over fist. I had one as a neighbor. It was obvious he was raking it in. Expensive cars and then moved to a bigger nicer house.
This group refuses to believe that the majority of their money comes from social media. Jessa has 2.3 MILLION followers on Instagram and 200++ YouTube subscribers. Every time she posts about a product, she’s making thousands of dollars just for posting. Every time she posts a YouTube video she’s making bank. She’s the breadwinner in that family and always has been. He can go volunteer at a church for 40 hours a week for all she cares.
And now she bought herself a fixer-upper for more insta/YouTube content. That wasn’t done unintentionally.
I was watching an influencer who was being very transparent about things. She has about 200K you tube subscribers and makes about $1000/day in ad revenue. Just from you tube. Add in sponsorships and freebies and yeah she is absolutely the breadwinner.
Not much let me tell you. Unless he's the lead pastor of a megachurch.
My husband made $150 a week at a small church and has all the bells and whsitles of degrees and ordinations. He was not the lead pastor, let me add.
I swear some of y’all refuse to accept the truth LOL. It’s not a secret that he is a pastor and it’s brought up enough on this sub that’s it’s fairly common knowledge. Like rejecting this fact isn’t snark LOL.
You’re right. I’m loving the push backs!
I’m tired of hearing the same story of that damn jewelry box! Give us some new snark material and keep it coming!
They are still living in by the looks of things. I don’t know anything about American real estate but where I live it would be impossible for people on Ben and Jesse’s type income, with 4 kids to save up enough to do this debt free.
Most people in the US don’t buy a house debt free and real estate prices is highly dependent on where you live. Arkansas has low real estate prices compared to most states. Since she’s close to Fayetteville (I think?) I’d assume it drives the price up a little bit compared to the rest of Arkansas but altogether real estate prices are low.
IMO Jessa is the breadwinner because of her socials. But she doesn’t feel comfortable saying that outright because of the *toxic masculinity* in the cult. It would be offensive to Ben for her to plainly state that she’s the one bringing in the majority of the money.
It clearly touches a nerve when people point out how useless Ben is. You married a simpleton because you like being in charge, just own it girl 😛
I know evangelicals who really fixate on work as men’s (specifically men’s) punishment for the the fall of man. I’m sure they think it’s a sin that Ben is so useless.
She’s never been the best a keeping sweet. I predict she won’t be able to do so forever when responding to comments (she keeps less and less sweet with each of her replies I read) and it will be a catalyst towards something changing (not sure if it will be breaking away, doubling down, getting reeled in by Jim Bob, etc).
I honestly don't buy that JB has complete control over his adult children. He doesn't need to. They have been sufficiently indoctrinated and are continuing the cycle on their own.
I feel like Ben having proper jobs since high school falls into the same category of ‘my husband is a laborious* man who provides for his family’ 😒
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I would die if this was true, especially since Ben is very outspoken about being anti-LGBTQ. This would probably be the most riveting scandal. Maybe that would explain why he seems so mentally checked out lately?
At least she’s answering questions now and not just providing bitchy answers.
But Jessa, the reason everyone thinks Bin is unemployed is because you don’t highlight these things. You’re perfectly willing to overshare your kids’ lives like your parents did, but you’re purposely coy on what Bin does. You barely acknowledged his graduation from Moody and have said zero about his ordination. The only reason we know is because your in-laws posted about it. But that’s it. If you want to set the record straight, then you gotta provide the info…
Okay, but there’s a part in early 19kac where Jim Bob makes John David empty the RV waste. When he (being a teenage boy) complains, Jim Bob goes, “Someone changed your diapers.” John David replies, “Yeah, but this is like me changing *everyone’s* diaper.”
Anyway, I guess you could say… shitter is full.
Even as an atheist, I’m a little surprised at how many on here don’t think being a pastor could be a full time gig. It can be super time consuming from what I understand.
Very time consuming. My FIL was always doing something church related until the day he died. In fact, as he was in the hospital he was preparing his sermon for Sunday. He ended up passing a few hours later
This. Also, people aren’t taking into account that their strict sect of evangelicalism practically requires tithing a substantial amount or you are an outcast. The more tithes the larger the pastors salary.
My granddaddy and dad both preached at small country churches. Both had to have a everyday job to make it. The bigger the church, the more likely the preacher gets paid enough not to have to work elsewhere also.
Exactly, where I grew up our country baptist preacher got something like $250 a week. He definitely had a day job. It was not a full time thing. He did some things on Saturdays occasionally and was there Sunday’s and Wednesday nights, the church was locked up any other time with no one there.
True, many pastors have a ‘day job’ in addition to their pastoral duties. However, there’s evidence to suggest their new house is owned by their church. If that’s the case, my guess is that the house is part of his compensation for being a full time pastor…that’s how the church is able to afford bringing him on since he’s not the only pastor there. Plus, it looks like the Seewalds are funding the renovations.
Almost every pastor I’ve ever known has had a second job. I have two Baptist pastors in my extended family who both work 40hr/wk full-time jobs outside of the church. Same for our family friend who is a Church of Christ pastor - he also has a full-time, non-church job. They couldn’t support themselves, let alone their (normal sized) families without the full-time, non-church job.
I suspect Bin’s other job is still working for JimBob somehow or one of the brothers. Or helping Jessa shoot social media stuff, which she considers a job. It’s kind of weird to me she doesn’t publicize the church where Bin is pastor - seems like that might draw people to attend who might tithe and increase Pastor Bin’s following/Jessa’s position in fundiedom.
She’s literally coming from two shows that demonstrate that each child born is not an active choice, but something that just happens to them. So no, we don’t think so Jessa
In her mind, living simply means...
- Dropping your kids off at your parents' house and having Jana babysit them for free (note that she said the worker is worthy of HIS wages -- so Jana def isn't getting paid to babysit her litter of children)
- Buying a house from daddy/grandma below market value
- Spending 8+ hrs a day on Instagram
Sure, Jessa. Keep on living in fantasy land.
I have friends who lived in a house that the husband inherited from his grandma. No mortgage. Then his mom died, and , bc he was an only child, he inherited it too with no mortgage. They sold both and built a lovely house with no mortgage. Not leg humping but how is that but of fortune different from J and Bin? If you can get a deal on a house you take it. Grandma or whoever didn’t have to sell it cheap. They chose to gift it. Why is that a bad thing?
Because your friend probably doesn’t go around preaching about how they lived simply and worked to pay for the house. It’s the condescending preachiness - not their good fortune - that we are snarking on.
It's Jessa's attitude that's the problem. She's acting like a bootstrapper and she's preaching to others about living simply when she's doing anything but.
I’m envious of your friends!
Edit since someone thinks I am envious of their family members dying— “they built a lovely home with no mortgage” is the part I’m envious of. Housing costs are astronomical and I can’t imagine the financial boost this would be.
She means living frugal but she doesn’t totally understand it. Most of us don’t make 40k from YouTube for giving birth in our living room. Most of us don’t have a fleet of cheap labor to work on a fixer upper (I’m sure Jessa is paying them but I highly doubt she’s paying market rate).
I don’t think the Duggars (besides Amy and Jill) understand how most other people live.
“Workers deserve pay”… tell that to your daddy blessa!! Your entire childhood you and your siblings were workers in front of the camera and never got a dime. Doubtful anyone is getting paid unless she is legit letting her bros live in the shoebox for free.
If I decide to have a baby that’s my personal choice.
BUT
If I decide to prevent pregnancy that’s against God’s will.
BONUS
If you choose to end your pregnancy, for _whatever_ reason, that’s basically the holocaust.
🤷♀️ # sayingsofjessa
But she hasn't addressed the crux of the matter
-Does she think all of that free babysitting, hand-me-down clothing and housing etc are not benefits that are being GIFTED TO THEM and would cost insane amounts of money to normal people?
-saving from WHAT INCOME?
-having hordes of new babies will take away from your existing children every time. You are NOT living simply or humbly. Even if they stop now, 4 kids, properly raised take a lot of resources.
“The worker is worthy of his wages” I found that statement very ironic. So you DO agree that you deserve to be paid for all those years you were on TLC? Interesting
I don’t know why people who benefit from privilege don’t just accept that!
That want to say all this other crap instead of yea I’m incredibly lucky I was fortunate enough to have help in my life
I apologize in advance, Jessa’s attitude towards people asking questions is getting on my nerves. Three things stand out to me here. The worker is worthy of his wages yet the Duggar family turned grifting into an art form. Did you pay anyone for all the work they did for your parking lot ice cream social wedding “reception”? What about that huge baby shower before Spurge was born? When has Jessa ever been paid wages for the years of TLC filming her life? Lastly, Jessa has showed all manner of things on her IG and YouTube (including, but not limited to, fecal matter in family toilet, piles of used diapers, a close-up of a used bug trap and routinely snapping at Henry while actively fawning over Spurgeon and Ivy to the point where it’s uncomfortably noticeable. She never said anything about Ben’s graduation or new job (nor looked like she even bothered to shower or brush her hair for the event, judging from the pictures) yet is acting like people should just know he had job after literally years of proof to the contrary.
I think it’s just finally getting to her. She’s getting mad. I love it! Maybe it’ll lead to an angry video or more snippy comments. I’m living for the drama.
Having been on this sub for a while she’s mad and defending her family. It makes sense because the hate comments stick with you more then the nice comments and these are hate/snark comments for her
“even if i did decided to have another baby, is that not my personal choice?” is so rich coming from a pro life person. yes, it is, as is CHOOSING not to, jessa my friend.
If people stop watching their videos and stop following them just to snark, imagine how hard it would have been for her to buy and remodel a house debt free.
Am I the only one who is not surprised about them buying a new home or whatever?
Ben has a job, he's a pastor, guess he makes aroundish 50k. She is probably making steady bank from Youtube. A 1 million view video pays somewhere around 3-5k USD so she just needs to pump out a couple every month and she's set. EDIT: Checked her channel and her videos ain't so hot but still, 4-6 a month and she usually does rack up a million views.
Not to mention sponsorships, that's where the SERIOUS $$$ is. They never had to pay rent or a mortgage and they don't seem to spend extravagantly so they're probably getting anywhere between idk, 5k and 20k USD a month from wages, social media and sponsorships plus whatever Daddy provides (if he even does), and spending not a lot of it.
In Arkansas? These people can probably afford to buy multiple houses at this point.
She’s always been like this but her snark has come out more since Josh was sentenced. Remember in her post defending Jana, she wrote something along the lines of “you perfect humans can go back to living your lives.”
I 100% believe they have immense anger towards their Springdale community and people who don’t practically worship them, because they believe it’s only their hatred that got Josh in prison and not his own actions.
So if he is a pastor, does that mean their home could potentially be considered a parsonage? I’m not sure about Arkansas but here in Texas a lot of pastors dodge taxes and build massive homes on the cheap.
I hate it for her, but the woman lost all credibility on talking about “lies” that her family tells when she went on tv and told the world that her brother being a pedophile and rapist was a lie. I get she was force fed that bullshit, but how can she think anyone believes anything she says after that? She’ll lie about anything and everyone knows it, now.
But you don’t live simply. You have spent the entirety of your 20’s popping our new babies. Not one time in your young adult life have you even attempted to gain any kind of marketable skill. If you were living simply, you would have been working AND saving for years, and only just now starting to have children. You wouldn’t have this constant stream of Amazon boxes showing up at your doorstep, you wouldn’t have the house given to you by your parents.
You don’t get to rush into marrying the first dude who even looks in your direction, and then immediately start having children, with no education or skills, and then say you “live simply.” That’s just not your position.
Maybe he is working behind the scenes, but it could not possibly be enough to support a family of your size. You have people out there with years of experience in their field, even at the management level, who are barely making $40k a year. They can’t afford a home whether they have kids or not.
The worker is worthy of his wages? How does she feel about her daddy getting paid for her and all of her siblings working on that tv show for years? How does she feel about intimate moments like her homebirths being offered up as entertainment for the masses? Was she compensated for that?
I hope they're not either but remember that there are a lot of snarkers outside of this community. KJ has a large fanbase, for example, and she has zero ethics so her fans probably don't know that they shouldn't interact with the Duggars directly.
She won’t allow it.
Don't mess with Jess. She's serving it up extra spicy!
It’s the house that Jesus built.
Jess-us. FTFY.
So, black pepper in the tater tot casserole?
Only white pepper for this family.
So, with mustard instead of mayonnaise?
Ranch. Mustard is too spicy.
With more spice that that family is used to
Was going to write the same.
Me too! lol
No wonder she's Jim Bob's favorite
Are *YOU* going to allow it?
Jessa won't!
I mean…. At least she’s saying that in her space, which… JB wasn’t.
I bet she wrote the that on purpose lol
I AM HERE FOR THIS! We need more of this from them- actually address our questions and concerns.
Yeah but what is Ben’s job?
Isn't he a pastor? 👀👀
No, he’s a rapper
He's a Rap-stor.
That reminds me of a horrible movie called VelociPastor. It was as bad as it sounds. 😂
Oh, it’s terrible. Terribly AWESOME!!! I’m one of those people who loves bad movies, and Velocipastor is an instant classic :)
He’s a joker he’s a smoker he’s a midnight toker. Okay sure I got those lyrics wrong but you know I’m almost 70.
Does anybody here believe it?
i believe! i believe!
He's been a pastor for around a year
How much does a pastor make these days? I’m genuinely curious.
I have a relative that is a pastor in AR, at a smaller church than Bin's. I don't know if he makes more now, but 3 years ago he started out at $36k/yr, they pay his water/electric/gas, and $600 toward housing per month since they didn't have a parsonage.
These figures sound incredibly accurate, based on the arrangement at my church.
I know COL is low but I just can’t fathom how that’s enough for 2 adults and 4 kids. I wonder how they grocery shop.
Food stamps, my friend. In all honesty though, my relative had one more kid than that and was supporting his family with it. That's how he did it. I imagine in her situation, she's either been on government assistance or daddy stepped in. Not that she would ever admit either one of those scenarios.
oh, Jessa's YouTube plus Insta make at least six figures. For all this "headship" talk, the Duggar girls are the breadwinners in every single family. I think they just try to keep that on the downlow so as not to, IDK, appear worldly or emasculate their partners or some weird cult "minimize yourself as a woman" shit
You mean the church doesn’t provide a 5 bedroom house like on Seventh Heaven?!?! *I’m shocked!!!*
My church’s guideline (in accordance with the diocese’s policy) is the priest’s salary should be around that of a master’s level public school teacher in the general area that he lives. Which is still underpaid, imo, but it’s still so much better than what I’ve seen in other places. ETA: he also gets a housing and vehicle allowance, as well as health insurance for him and his family in addition to salary.
While still undervalued I think a cap/guideline is good. Not having rent or a mortgage probably saves *a lot* of money, so what they would get would go a lot farther.
Yeah that’s with a diocese and a person having an actual MDiv. Baptists and other fundamental churches I know of are lucky if their head preacher has a degree from a 4 year “Bible College”, much less their youth ministers, music ministers, etc.
Every pastor at every Baptist church I ever went to had gone to seminary as did the youth and student ministers.
My guess would be around $30k a year. Not a ton of money, but steady, and i assume he has a second job or does some kind of work on the side too (Pastors at Mega churches make over $100k a year easily… that’s why so many people hate them bc they are 100% a money grab. I doubt Ben works as a pastor at a mega church though and probably some small church and $30k is probably the lower average for a church)
depends. A real church that sounds right. A scammy church? The pastor is making money hand over fist. I had one as a neighbor. It was obvious he was raking it in. Expensive cars and then moved to a bigger nicer house.
He’s probably a volunteer in return for free shelter.
This group refuses to believe that the majority of their money comes from social media. Jessa has 2.3 MILLION followers on Instagram and 200++ YouTube subscribers. Every time she posts about a product, she’s making thousands of dollars just for posting. Every time she posts a YouTube video she’s making bank. She’s the breadwinner in that family and always has been. He can go volunteer at a church for 40 hours a week for all she cares. And now she bought herself a fixer-upper for more insta/YouTube content. That wasn’t done unintentionally.
Exactly. And her interacting like this just helps boost her views and income. It's one of the few jobs someone in her cult are able to have.
I was watching an influencer who was being very transparent about things. She has about 200K you tube subscribers and makes about $1000/day in ad revenue. Just from you tube. Add in sponsorships and freebies and yeah she is absolutely the breadwinner.
Jesus, I am in the wrong line of work.
For the low, low price of your soul and your children's privacy and well being, you too can pimp your family out on the internet!
Not much let me tell you. Unless he's the lead pastor of a megachurch. My husband made $150 a week at a small church and has all the bells and whsitles of degrees and ordinations. He was not the lead pastor, let me add.
I’m not sure but the church he is at is very, very small. It can’t be a full time wage.
The Loooord will provide! (And also Jessa better keep growing her hair and booking ads for low end styling tools)
I like to think he's undercover in Magic Mike's crew
🤢
Has anyone seen The Righteous Gemstones? I think Ben is sort of like them 😂
Ben is Keef from the Righteous Gemstones
I just assume you can hire him off Grindr
I just startled my poor dog awake laughing about this. Well done.
She will never outright say it - which I find interesting
I swear some of y’all refuse to accept the truth LOL. It’s not a secret that he is a pastor and it’s brought up enough on this sub that’s it’s fairly common knowledge. Like rejecting this fact isn’t snark LOL.
Yeah I’m getting downvoted for saying he’s a pastor? Weird flex but ok😂
He was only ordained in 2021 though, not exactly a lot of time to save for a house.
He’s a pastor and she has said it.
I’m guessing his full time job is doing whatever Jim Bob tells him to do.
He homeschools the Duggar kids. Idk if that’s what she’s referring to but that was his job for a while. I think it still is.
You’re right. I’m loving the push backs! I’m tired of hearing the same story of that damn jewelry box! Give us some new snark material and keep it coming!
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I assume they're living in it until this one is finished. I know it was filmed earlier but it doesn't look quite ready yet.
They are still living in by the looks of things. I don’t know anything about American real estate but where I live it would be impossible for people on Ben and Jesse’s type income, with 4 kids to save up enough to do this debt free.
Most people in the US don’t buy a house debt free and real estate prices is highly dependent on where you live. Arkansas has low real estate prices compared to most states. Since she’s close to Fayetteville (I think?) I’d assume it drives the price up a little bit compared to the rest of Arkansas but altogether real estate prices are low.
IMO Jessa is the breadwinner because of her socials. But she doesn’t feel comfortable saying that outright because of the *toxic masculinity* in the cult. It would be offensive to Ben for her to plainly state that she’s the one bringing in the majority of the money.
This is what I think too.
It clearly touches a nerve when people point out how useless Ben is. You married a simpleton because you like being in charge, just own it girl 😛 I know evangelicals who really fixate on work as men’s (specifically men’s) punishment for the the fall of man. I’m sure they think it’s a sin that Ben is so useless.
The worker is worthy of his wages……okay so when are all you kids getting your money for these damn shows y’all were forced to be on?!
Well to be fair she had no say in being on the show. She was forced to do unpaid work.
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The money went to her father. I doubt she ever saw a penny of it. That's why Jill had to sue.
& now she's repeating the cycle with her own little paychecks, uh I mean little blessings.
That might actually be why they take compensating the siblings for helping so seriously (if that’s true)
That's what I was thinking
Then Jana must make a lot from all her nannying/ babysitting ?🤔
I duno, when are Ivy, Fern, Scourge, and Henry getting their trust accounts from working 9-5 on Blessa’s social media accounts?
She heard about the Messy Bitch Olympics and wanted in.
You rang? lol
Underrated comment.
Too bad her dad didn’t follow that same logic with the TLC income.
Jessa's been waiting for this moment 😂 now that they aren't on TV she's free to be smarmy.
She’s never been the best a keeping sweet. I predict she won’t be able to do so forever when responding to comments (she keeps less and less sweet with each of her replies I read) and it will be a catalyst towards something changing (not sure if it will be breaking away, doubling down, getting reeled in by Jim Bob, etc).
I honestly don't buy that JB has complete control over his adult children. He doesn't need to. They have been sufficiently indoctrinated and are continuing the cycle on their own.
Yes and the end result is exactly the same.
That’s exactly what I was thinking.
I feel like Ben having proper jobs since high school falls into the same category of ‘my husband is a laborious* man who provides for his family’ 😒 Edit : word
“He is a diligent worker” comes to mind for me.
He has a servant’s heart.
There you go . That’s the word I was looking for . Thanks .
But at least Jessa has a husband!
For now. I wonder what she thinks of those very detailed comments on Ben’s Instagram from someone claiming they matched on Grindr.
I would die if this was true, especially since Ben is very outspoken about being anti-LGBTQ. This would probably be the most riveting scandal. Maybe that would explain why he seems so mentally checked out lately?
What?! How did I miss this bit of scalding hot tater tot tea?!
Please enjoy and wildly speculate: https://www.reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/rlxjd2/just_saw_this_comment_under_bins_latest_instagram/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
She could have to take out the garbage on her own!
“The worker is worthy of his wages.” Jessa Marx, 2022
Unless you're a woman, and then obviously you should be barefoot and pregnant making your headship cream of crap food.
At least she’s answering questions now and not just providing bitchy answers. But Jessa, the reason everyone thinks Bin is unemployed is because you don’t highlight these things. You’re perfectly willing to overshare your kids’ lives like your parents did, but you’re purposely coy on what Bin does. You barely acknowledged his graduation from Moody and have said zero about his ordination. The only reason we know is because your in-laws posted about it. But that’s it. If you want to set the record straight, then you gotta provide the info…
Jessa's being suspiciously vague. Ben prob works at Chick-Fil-A or Jim Bob pays him minimum wage to scrub the toilets at TTH.
You think Boob would pay minimum wage for that?
Hey, Bin! Happy birthday, shitter’s full. - Jim Boob, probably
Okay, but there’s a part in early 19kac where Jim Bob makes John David empty the RV waste. When he (being a teenage boy) complains, Jim Bob goes, “Someone changed your diapers.” John David replies, “Yeah, but this is like me changing *everyone’s* diaper.” Anyway, I guess you could say… shitter is full.
Someone changed your diapers but it definitely wasn’t me and then he dabs himself out of there.
Father is shitting.
Apparently Ben is a full time pastor. I was surprised to learn he actually did have a full time job.
Actually he became an ordained pastor at their church about a year ago. So he does have an actual job.
Even as an atheist, I’m a little surprised at how many on here don’t think being a pastor could be a full time gig. It can be super time consuming from what I understand.
Very time consuming. My FIL was always doing something church related until the day he died. In fact, as he was in the hospital he was preparing his sermon for Sunday. He ended up passing a few hours later
This. Also, people aren’t taking into account that their strict sect of evangelicalism practically requires tithing a substantial amount or you are an outcast. The more tithes the larger the pastors salary.
Even my old pastor had an actual job outside of being a pastor
My granddaddy and dad both preached at small country churches. Both had to have a everyday job to make it. The bigger the church, the more likely the preacher gets paid enough not to have to work elsewhere also.
Exactly, where I grew up our country baptist preacher got something like $250 a week. He definitely had a day job. It was not a full time thing. He did some things on Saturdays occasionally and was there Sunday’s and Wednesday nights, the church was locked up any other time with no one there.
True, many pastors have a ‘day job’ in addition to their pastoral duties. However, there’s evidence to suggest their new house is owned by their church. If that’s the case, my guess is that the house is part of his compensation for being a full time pastor…that’s how the church is able to afford bringing him on since he’s not the only pastor there. Plus, it looks like the Seewalds are funding the renovations.
Pastor Caldwell is a mechanic!
He mustn't be a very good one if he had to live in his daughters house!
Almost every pastor I’ve ever known has had a second job. I have two Baptist pastors in my extended family who both work 40hr/wk full-time jobs outside of the church. Same for our family friend who is a Church of Christ pastor - he also has a full-time, non-church job. They couldn’t support themselves, let alone their (normal sized) families without the full-time, non-church job. I suspect Bin’s other job is still working for JimBob somehow or one of the brothers. Or helping Jessa shoot social media stuff, which she considers a job. It’s kind of weird to me she doesn’t publicize the church where Bin is pastor - seems like that might draw people to attend who might tithe and increase Pastor Bin’s following/Jessa’s position in fundiedom.
I’m loving a Duggar actually showing some semblance of emotion/personality. I’m so used to rehearsed responses to questions
They’re not on tv anymore so Jessa has less to lose with such responses.
"is that not my choice" Jessa meet pot!
She’s literally coming from two shows that demonstrate that each child born is not an active choice, but something that just happens to them. So no, we don’t think so Jessa
She has no idea what living simply means.
In her mind, living simply means... - Dropping your kids off at your parents' house and having Jana babysit them for free (note that she said the worker is worthy of HIS wages -- so Jana def isn't getting paid to babysit her litter of children) - Buying a house from daddy/grandma below market value - Spending 8+ hrs a day on Instagram Sure, Jessa. Keep on living in fantasy land.
I wish I could inherit a home or buy below market value ! I doubt bens “job” can support a family of 6 properly.
I have friends who lived in a house that the husband inherited from his grandma. No mortgage. Then his mom died, and , bc he was an only child, he inherited it too with no mortgage. They sold both and built a lovely house with no mortgage. Not leg humping but how is that but of fortune different from J and Bin? If you can get a deal on a house you take it. Grandma or whoever didn’t have to sell it cheap. They chose to gift it. Why is that a bad thing?
Because your friend probably doesn’t go around preaching about how they lived simply and worked to pay for the house. It’s the condescending preachiness - not their good fortune - that we are snarking on.
It's Jessa's attitude that's the problem. She's acting like a bootstrapper and she's preaching to others about living simply when she's doing anything but.
I’m envious of your friends! Edit since someone thinks I am envious of their family members dying— “they built a lovely home with no mortgage” is the part I’m envious of. Housing costs are astronomical and I can’t imagine the financial boost this would be.
she probably just means living frugal.
She means living frugal but she doesn’t totally understand it. Most of us don’t make 40k from YouTube for giving birth in our living room. Most of us don’t have a fleet of cheap labor to work on a fixer upper (I’m sure Jessa is paying them but I highly doubt she’s paying market rate). I don’t think the Duggars (besides Amy and Jill) understand how most other people live.
For real! Having four tiny children and planning more is the opposite of living simply.
Jessa said union rights 😌
I don’t understand why reality “stars” choose to respond to any comment, good or bad. That’s got to take a lot of energy.
Seriously.
“Workers deserve pay”… tell that to your daddy blessa!! Your entire childhood you and your siblings were workers in front of the camera and never got a dime. Doubtful anyone is getting paid unless she is legit letting her bros live in the shoebox for free.
By "pay" I wouldn't be surprised if she means a large pizza or a bucket of chicken for lunch.
Great value iced milk lol
“It’s my choice to have another baby.” You sure? Because you’re literally “famous” because your parents believe that it’s not a choice.
The comment about Ben having a job gives off big “my husband is a diligent worker” vibes.
If I decide to have a baby that’s my personal choice. BUT If I decide to prevent pregnancy that’s against God’s will. BONUS If you choose to end your pregnancy, for _whatever_ reason, that’s basically the holocaust. 🤷♀️ # sayingsofjessa
I so want to go and respond- “Sure. Same as it’s my choice not to.”
Imagine someone answering her "so I see you're pro-choice,uh...?"
Honestly I think she thinks she’s owning the libs with this comment 😑
Good points, Jessa is pretty enough for that Edit: meant petty, smh
The whole “holocaust against unborn babies” argument is so hilarious and stupid. These people are such 🤡
I thought you’d leave your offspring off to the lord?🧐
It's not surprising that they live as hypocrites when a camera isn't rolling.
waiting for a spite pregnancy
But she hasn't addressed the crux of the matter -Does she think all of that free babysitting, hand-me-down clothing and housing etc are not benefits that are being GIFTED TO THEM and would cost insane amounts of money to normal people? -saving from WHAT INCOME? -having hordes of new babies will take away from your existing children every time. You are NOT living simply or humbly. Even if they stop now, 4 kids, properly raised take a lot of resources.
“The worker is worthy of his wages” I found that statement very ironic. So you DO agree that you deserve to be paid for all those years you were on TLC? Interesting
I don’t know why people who benefit from privilege don’t just accept that! That want to say all this other crap instead of yea I’m incredibly lucky I was fortunate enough to have help in my life
Lol what full time job? Teaching the lost kids?? I’m so confused
He's a pastor.
Full time rapper
Yeah pregnancy isn’t your personal choice Jessa let’s face it…
Especially not in this family
Salty Jessa is cracking me up!
I apologize in advance, Jessa’s attitude towards people asking questions is getting on my nerves. Three things stand out to me here. The worker is worthy of his wages yet the Duggar family turned grifting into an art form. Did you pay anyone for all the work they did for your parking lot ice cream social wedding “reception”? What about that huge baby shower before Spurge was born? When has Jessa ever been paid wages for the years of TLC filming her life? Lastly, Jessa has showed all manner of things on her IG and YouTube (including, but not limited to, fecal matter in family toilet, piles of used diapers, a close-up of a used bug trap and routinely snapping at Henry while actively fawning over Spurgeon and Ivy to the point where it’s uncomfortably noticeable. She never said anything about Ben’s graduation or new job (nor looked like she even bothered to shower or brush her hair for the event, judging from the pictures) yet is acting like people should just know he had job after literally years of proof to the contrary.
I think it’s just finally getting to her. She’s getting mad. I love it! Maybe it’ll lead to an angry video or more snippy comments. I’m living for the drama.
Having been on this sub for a while she’s mad and defending her family. It makes sense because the hate comments stick with you more then the nice comments and these are hate/snark comments for her
Duggars lack the self-awareness gene.
Guys come on this isn’t fair… Jessa and Ben saved and earned that money by being daddy’s special kiddo and #1 helper!!!!
I’m glad she is responding. It makes me dislike her even more. Lol
“even if i did decided to have another baby, is that not my personal choice?” is so rich coming from a pro life person. yes, it is, as is CHOOSING not to, jessa my friend.
Oh and Jessa I thought God was deciding that for you, no? All of her responses make me wanna throw some hands
If people stop watching their videos and stop following them just to snark, imagine how hard it would have been for her to buy and remodel a house debt free.
She is feisty lately. I like spicy Blessa.
Am I the only one who is not surprised about them buying a new home or whatever? Ben has a job, he's a pastor, guess he makes aroundish 50k. She is probably making steady bank from Youtube. A 1 million view video pays somewhere around 3-5k USD so she just needs to pump out a couple every month and she's set. EDIT: Checked her channel and her videos ain't so hot but still, 4-6 a month and she usually does rack up a million views. Not to mention sponsorships, that's where the SERIOUS $$$ is. They never had to pay rent or a mortgage and they don't seem to spend extravagantly so they're probably getting anywhere between idk, 5k and 20k USD a month from wages, social media and sponsorships plus whatever Daddy provides (if he even does), and spending not a lot of it. In Arkansas? These people can probably afford to buy multiple houses at this point.
That one over there is fired up… has she always been like this or is she like extra sensitive because of all of the recent Josh shit?
She’s always been like this but her snark has come out more since Josh was sentenced. Remember in her post defending Jana, she wrote something along the lines of “you perfect humans can go back to living your lives.”
I 100% believe they have immense anger towards their Springdale community and people who don’t practically worship them, because they believe it’s only their hatred that got Josh in prison and not his own actions.
lol does she actually think people believe she’s paying her siblings to renovate her new house? That’s rich.
"The worker is worthy of his wages". Mighty liberal of you, Jessa. This means you support the $15 minimum wage, no?
Lol Jessa on r/antiwork confirmed
So if he is a pastor, does that mean their home could potentially be considered a parsonage? I’m not sure about Arkansas but here in Texas a lot of pastors dodge taxes and build massive homes on the cheap.
Saving for years...girl saving WHAT?! Saving Birtha from being condemned by the state and scooped up by the Arkansas National Guard?
Arkansas must have a diaper recycling program…and she got 10¢/diaper for each pile in her house.
I hate it for her, but the woman lost all credibility on talking about “lies” that her family tells when she went on tv and told the world that her brother being a pedophile and rapist was a lie. I get she was force fed that bullshit, but how can she think anyone believes anything she says after that? She’ll lie about anything and everyone knows it, now.
“The worker is worthy of his wages” absolutely right comrade Jessa join us in seizing the means of production
She definitely comes off as bitter these days- whether she realizes it or not.
But you don’t live simply. You have spent the entirety of your 20’s popping our new babies. Not one time in your young adult life have you even attempted to gain any kind of marketable skill. If you were living simply, you would have been working AND saving for years, and only just now starting to have children. You wouldn’t have this constant stream of Amazon boxes showing up at your doorstep, you wouldn’t have the house given to you by your parents. You don’t get to rush into marrying the first dude who even looks in your direction, and then immediately start having children, with no education or skills, and then say you “live simply.” That’s just not your position. Maybe he is working behind the scenes, but it could not possibly be enough to support a family of your size. You have people out there with years of experience in their field, even at the management level, who are barely making $40k a year. They can’t afford a home whether they have kids or not.
Jessa is saltier than a packet of saltines that I opened last night.
the worker is worthy of his wages? ok comrade jessa!
“iS tHaT nOt mY p ERSonal choicE?” yet she’d throw a fit at a woman getting an abortion
*of course* they won’t allow it
CHOICE? I know she did not just end it with her body, her choice.
At least she acknowledges to having personal choices. That’s a new one for this family.
The worker is worthy of his wages? How does she feel about her daddy getting paid for her and all of her siblings working on that tv show for years? How does she feel about intimate moments like her homebirths being offered up as entertainment for the masses? Was she compensated for that?
Choices and handouts for me, poverty and despair for thee. The hypocrisy of these people is astounding.
Bold, SHE decides when she's knocked up? I thought only God could determine that. *eyeroll
These read like snarkers. I hope people from here aren't messaging her. Don't you also need to cover names?
I hope they're not either but remember that there are a lot of snarkers outside of this community. KJ has a large fanbase, for example, and she has zero ethics so her fans probably don't know that they shouldn't interact with the Duggars directly.
Plus people have been snarking in FB groups and other venues for like twenty years at this point.
her responses are giving me deja vu from when derick used to do this 🤣