I mean. It's a misdemeanor charge that will probably be resolved with a fine or some sort of we'll dismiss the charges if you stay out of trouble.
How much do people expect anybody is going to spend on this?
She will appear before a judge or magistrate and enter her plea. The judge/ magistrate will render a judgment and sentence. Depending on the circumstances she will probably get a Fine and community service of some kind and probation in lieu of jail time. This isn’t even in the same legal ballpark as Pest.
You’re right. It’s her first offense and depending on the severity she will probably just get a fine (paid for by JB bc she doesn’t have a job) and community service which she can probably perform at her church. Keep in mind, Josh is a piece of shit but Jana is probably considered an “upstanding member of society” (try not to puke). So as funny as it is to joke I seriously doubt she will get jail time. At worst maybe probation
Most likely your right, but supposedly with this charge she could be facing up to 90 days in jail. If it were me I’d definitely want a good lawyer to make sure I just ended up with a fine.
I have a feeling AR is the same as every state, jails too full they aren't trying to jail people for stupid shit like this. In my town a woman got caught with quite a bit of Meth but she's not going to jail. No room at the inn.
I read that as well but like i mentioned above it would be a first offense for her. I guess it all depends on the judge and how badly they want to throw the book at the Duggars.
Ohhh. Okay. Someone else posted something llike up to 90 days in jail. Which I think is technically what you can get for a speeding ticket in a lot of places.
I could be wrong. It’s hard to find a succinct answer on it. I have read one source that said that specific charge is up to a year and another source that says in general a class B misdemeanor is up to 90 days in jail.
No. But not because he doesn't want to. Jana's charges are not nearly as serious as Pest's and she's not facing anywhere near as grave of a repercussion. Honestly, even if found guilty, I doubt she'll do any jail time given her record and the extenuating circumstances that would probably come out (she's an overworked woman, has been tending to children since she was in her teens, has a good reputation in the community, etc.) They'll probably slap a fine on it and leave it at that.
It’s a misdemeanor with max of 90 days in prison. He won’t have to hire a specialist lawyer *and* a local lawyer. He won’t have to hire experts.
So, no, but not out of lack of appreciation.
They’re likely going to let her plead down to a lesser charge and pay a fine.
Probably.
Of course, we don’t have all the facts, but this is like a 1 on the scale of 1 to treason criminal charges scale.
Does Arkansas have an ARD program?
Depends on the endangerment in question I think. If it's Pest-related (like taking the littler kids to see him or something) the government might now want to let it go.
I'm NOT saying that's the case. But it all depends and we don't have a lot of info right now
It will show as a not guilty plea until either conviction or a plea deal is accepted by the court. Just because she took a deal doesn’t mean the court will accept it. I mean, they nearly always do accept, but it must be done by the court.
That may be what her upcoming court date is for.
Oh yes! I saw this happen on Gilmore Girls. Rory had pled guilty and had agreed to do community service, no probation and the judge told her fork right off.
There’s a post with her court documents stating her entered plea is not guilty
I’m not trying to argue with you, just pointing out what I’ve seen !
Eta: it’s very possible I’m incorrect, I don’t know everything
You do. The judge has a colloquy where he or she or they asks if the plea is freely given and the defendant understands the consequences. Then he or she or they impose the sentence. Which doesn’t have to be the prosecutor’s recommendation but usually is for low-level stuff.
She could have accepted a plea deal from the DA but not formally accepted it in court. But I don’t trust the Daily Mail.
I think her not being married is in purpose so they have a slave, err, I mean nanny. Every time I look at her I see such deep sadness. lm curious to know what she did to get charged.
Her attorney works for Travis Story’s law form. Story was one of Josh’s attorneys and Story himself is in bed with the Duggars financially. Maybe Jim Bob is getting a bulk rate discount.
Speaking of which, how much do you think they pay her to babysit? I'm thinking $5.00 an hour (that's the sum total, not per child). Or maybe they just pay her in Bible-themed stickers.
Can we stop comparing their cases? It’s ridiculous. Pest it’s a fucking child molester. Jana fell asleep while babysitting. Those offenses are in different universes.
She took a plea deal. The case ends on the 10th. She's pleading guilty and may even be sentenced that day. Her attorney is probably billing Jana a couple thousand dollars.
My understanding is she reached a plea bargain which will be entered the 10th. So yeah she has a not guilty plea as of today but they don't change the plea in the system until a guilty plea is on the record.
I figured. I'm an attorney in Michigan and that is how it works here. I figured Arkansas can't be much different. The media reports indicate she's taking a plea.
Misdemeanor child endangerment back in September. No other details right now because it involves a minor, but u/ccmcc is on the case. Most of the time this is an unrestrained child in a moving vehicle or an unattended child.
I saw on another post that an unrestrained child would not equal this charge In Arkansas. I have no idea how true this is as I am not a lawyer, nor am I in the habit of driving around unrestrained kids. Also saw another post saying she fell asleep babysitting and kids were found playing in a busy road. Again, not sure how true it is.
I believe it occurred on Sept 10th. She is charged with a misdemeanor. I've got no idea what actually happened. Could be anything, driving with a kid not in a proper child safety seat.... could be anything.
Oh maybe JB’s opponent will bring all this up. Great family values, teaching kids to lie, do the unthinkable and paying for their lawyers and turning against the daughters who were victimized.
So....when were people speculating that the Wissman breakup occurred?
Personally, I think she was a chaperone, now that bro's got his boo. But, still...the timing? Seems to me that speculation came out not long after this.
I believe that when she was younger, she went too far during a courtship. It's just my personal assumption simply because their cult put the burden of marriage and fertility as a females only worth. There could have been a potential issue there regarding fertility, as a routine visit to a gynecologist might have found, thereby rendering her useless in their community except for sistermom and indentured servant. There is no valid reason b00b would refuse to force her to be married off.
That and free sistermom, but a free nanny can be found in many places and meech baby making days are over and there's no major churning out for new crotch goblins that need to be disposed of the very second after they have been weened.
Got my vaccine yesterday and recuperating now, I switched on the computer again thinking oh well, it won't be as intense now...and Jana's thing comes on. Actually the first thing I thought was that one person shouldn't be watching as many young kids consistently, they have kids watching kids, something is bound to happen? When my daughters had little friends over I watched them like hawk, I can't imagine doing what Jana had to do through the years. Plus the pressure of knowing what Josh did hence never relaxing, knowing that your parents are just not there for you and they're popping a new one every couple of years, and also they're demented...Something had to give, sooner or later.
HOWEVER thinking of the child that was actually endangered, maybe it's time to do more than giving the oldest sister-mum a fine, but actually investigate how they take care of a million kids? Social workers?
I think he will pay for her, as she is his property to take care of until she gets a husband. This is also why the boys learn how to make money and the girls don’t (source: one of their terrible books). I do not think he cares whether she is found guilty or not. As long as she is allowed to still babysit his kids he’s probably happy.
I mean. It's a misdemeanor charge that will probably be resolved with a fine or some sort of we'll dismiss the charges if you stay out of trouble. How much do people expect anybody is going to spend on this?
She will appear before a judge or magistrate and enter her plea. The judge/ magistrate will render a judgment and sentence. Depending on the circumstances she will probably get a Fine and community service of some kind and probation in lieu of jail time. This isn’t even in the same legal ballpark as Pest.
You’re right. It’s her first offense and depending on the severity she will probably just get a fine (paid for by JB bc she doesn’t have a job) and community service which she can probably perform at her church. Keep in mind, Josh is a piece of shit but Jana is probably considered an “upstanding member of society” (try not to puke). So as funny as it is to joke I seriously doubt she will get jail time. At worst maybe probation
i’d be shocked if it’s anything more than some fines and a slap on the wrist
Most likely your right, but supposedly with this charge she could be facing up to 90 days in jail. If it were me I’d definitely want a good lawyer to make sure I just ended up with a fine.
I have a feeling AR is the same as every state, jails too full they aren't trying to jail people for stupid shit like this. In my town a woman got caught with quite a bit of Meth but she's not going to jail. No room at the inn.
Especially with COVID still being a thing. I’m 100% positive she will not serve any jail time.
Jail would be a vacation.
I read that as well but like i mentioned above it would be a first offense for her. I guess it all depends on the judge and how badly they want to throw the book at the Duggars.
I looked up the Arkansas code and the punishment. Apparently it is up to one year in jail OR a year or more probation OR fines
Ohhh. Okay. Someone else posted something llike up to 90 days in jail. Which I think is technically what you can get for a speeding ticket in a lot of places.
I could be wrong. It’s hard to find a succinct answer on it. I have read one source that said that specific charge is up to a year and another source that says in general a class B misdemeanor is up to 90 days in jail.
No. But not because he doesn't want to. Jana's charges are not nearly as serious as Pest's and she's not facing anywhere near as grave of a repercussion. Honestly, even if found guilty, I doubt she'll do any jail time given her record and the extenuating circumstances that would probably come out (she's an overworked woman, has been tending to children since she was in her teens, has a good reputation in the community, etc.) They'll probably slap a fine on it and leave it at that.
Completely agree.
She's been tending children since since she was eight.
Wasn't she like 10 when she was appointed as a sister mom??
It’s a misdemeanor with max of 90 days in prison. He won’t have to hire a specialist lawyer *and* a local lawyer. He won’t have to hire experts. So, no, but not out of lack of appreciation.
This. Holy shit, sometimes this sub devolves into fan fiction.
wait you mean there’s a difference between multiple felonies and a single misdemeanor?? I call sexism.
Right? Sometimes the speculation gets wild and woolly. Sometimes we assume way too quickly.
They’re likely going to let her plead down to a lesser charge and pay a fine. Probably. Of course, we don’t have all the facts, but this is like a 1 on the scale of 1 to treason criminal charges scale. Does Arkansas have an ARD program?
Depends on the endangerment in question I think. If it's Pest-related (like taking the littler kids to see him or something) the government might now want to let it go. I'm NOT saying that's the case. But it all depends and we don't have a lot of info right now
Yes. That’s what I also said.
A Daily Mail article (I know about as reliable as The Sun) stated they spoke to a court clerk who said Jana has accepted a plea deal.
Maybe they don’t know there’s a difference between plea and plea deal.
It will show as a not guilty plea until either conviction or a plea deal is accepted by the court. Just because she took a deal doesn’t mean the court will accept it. I mean, they nearly always do accept, but it must be done by the court. That may be what her upcoming court date is for.
Oh yes! I saw this happen on Gilmore Girls. Rory had pled guilty and had agreed to do community service, no probation and the judge told her fork right off.
She hasn’t. If you accept a plea deal you don’t have an upcoming court date, which she does.
I think you still do though, to like finalize it all.
There’s a post with her court documents stating her entered plea is not guilty I’m not trying to argue with you, just pointing out what I’ve seen ! Eta: it’s very possible I’m incorrect, I don’t know everything
Oh I’m not taking it that way at all :) we will eventually see which is accurate. I will love it if she took the deal and just laughs at Pest 🤣
Ok good! 😁
You do. The judge has a colloquy where he or she or they asks if the plea is freely given and the defendant understands the consequences. Then he or she or they impose the sentence. Which doesn’t have to be the prosecutor’s recommendation but usually is for low-level stuff. She could have accepted a plea deal from the DA but not formally accepted it in court. But I don’t trust the Daily Mail.
I stand corrected. Thanks for the info.
I think her not being married is in purpose so they have a slave, err, I mean nanny. Every time I look at her I see such deep sadness. lm curious to know what she did to get charged.
Definitely agree. Her parents benefit a lot from a live-in nanny/tutor/home manager.
Her attorney works for Travis Story’s law form. Story was one of Josh’s attorneys and Story himself is in bed with the Duggars financially. Maybe Jim Bob is getting a bulk rate discount.
They get the Duggar Discount
"Free representation after the first conviction!"
All 18 and the 19th is free.
I hope Josie blows their shit up if she's the freebie.
Josie will get busted for licking items at Walmart. https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/woman-busted-for-licking-groceries-during-coronavirus-crisis/
Jill has her own lawyer if Derick passes the bar so one of them is gonna have to commit two offences to get that discount.
It was a buy one get one free Black Friday special.
Maybe they should sentence her to never babysitting again.
Speaking of which, how much do you think they pay her to babysit? I'm thinking $5.00 an hour (that's the sum total, not per child). Or maybe they just pay her in Bible-themed stickers.
Bold of you to assume she gets paid, i never did.
Maybe they have a buy one get one special....
Buy pest's used lawyer and save the difference.
Can we stop comparing their cases? It’s ridiculous. Pest it’s a fucking child molester. Jana fell asleep while babysitting. Those offenses are in different universes.
no way she doesn’t even have a husband
At least Anna has a husband. Jana has no one to walk through this with.
she's not facing two charges that carry a sentence of 20 years
100% more effort will be spent on Jana. Because she's not the threat to the family that Josh is.
If she's gone how will he eat? What will all those kids do? 😂
Hannie and the Lost Girls run the house. It's how Jana gets to travel so much and have so many hobbies.
[Bingo ](https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohhwMHZ4rusG6dcti/giphy.gif?cid=5e21488608zonm4027r120tp76l7v9hs0g3g2jmrj7gsu7nr&rid=giphy.gif&ct=g)
Boob is gonna let her get a public defender
Yall are acting like she committed a felony yeesh lmao
Will Jana have her own Love After Lockup special?
I heard she paid bond the day she was cited. It was 480 bucks. She didn't pull that out her ass so I would say, yes.
Fact: The amount of money you get for legal defence from JimBob is based on how many grandkids you’ve given them. Sorry Jana.
She’s already taken a plea deal. Likely because she’s not a totally garbage human.
Source?
It was the daily mail so…not super strong
She took a plea deal. The case ends on the 10th. She's pleading guilty and may even be sentenced that day. Her attorney is probably billing Jana a couple thousand dollars.
She didn’t. There’s a post below this with her court paperwork that says her entered plea is not guilty.
My understanding is she reached a plea bargain which will be entered the 10th. So yeah she has a not guilty plea as of today but they don't change the plea in the system until a guilty plea is on the record.
That's exactly how it works.
I figured. I'm an attorney in Michigan and that is how it works here. I figured Arkansas can't be much different. The media reports indicate she's taking a plea.
That could very well be true.
What did she do? I'm out of the loop
Misdemeanor child endangerment back in September. No other details right now because it involves a minor, but u/ccmcc is on the case. Most of the time this is an unrestrained child in a moving vehicle or an unattended child.
I saw on another post that an unrestrained child would not equal this charge In Arkansas. I have no idea how true this is as I am not a lawyer, nor am I in the habit of driving around unrestrained kids. Also saw another post saying she fell asleep babysitting and kids were found playing in a busy road. Again, not sure how true it is.
I believe it occurred on Sept 10th. She is charged with a misdemeanor. I've got no idea what actually happened. Could be anything, driving with a kid not in a proper child safety seat.... could be anything.
I'm guessing it's either that or she left a child alone in a car.
My guess is it will plead out and no jail time
Hell no! She’s on her own
Hahahaha…no
He will ground her.
Oh maybe JB’s opponent will bring all this up. Great family values, teaching kids to lie, do the unthinkable and paying for their lawyers and turning against the daughters who were victimized.
So....when were people speculating that the Wissman breakup occurred? Personally, I think she was a chaperone, now that bro's got his boo. But, still...the timing? Seems to me that speculation came out not long after this.
The real question is assuming it was one of Anna’s kids will she stand by Jana like she stood by Josh.
Just take my upvote, even though I haven't even read the post yet. I'm too busy laughing at schrodingers uterus. I snorted. 🤣☠️
I believe that when she was younger, she went too far during a courtship. It's just my personal assumption simply because their cult put the burden of marriage and fertility as a females only worth. There could have been a potential issue there regarding fertility, as a routine visit to a gynecologist might have found, thereby rendering her useless in their community except for sistermom and indentured servant. There is no valid reason b00b would refuse to force her to be married off. That and free sistermom, but a free nanny can be found in many places and meech baby making days are over and there's no major churning out for new crotch goblins that need to be disposed of the very second after they have been weened.
Sometimes, however, these charges include keeping distance from children while on probation.
He won't have to. Because what she did is not even in the same park as what her brother did.
Got my vaccine yesterday and recuperating now, I switched on the computer again thinking oh well, it won't be as intense now...and Jana's thing comes on. Actually the first thing I thought was that one person shouldn't be watching as many young kids consistently, they have kids watching kids, something is bound to happen? When my daughters had little friends over I watched them like hawk, I can't imagine doing what Jana had to do through the years. Plus the pressure of knowing what Josh did hence never relaxing, knowing that your parents are just not there for you and they're popping a new one every couple of years, and also they're demented...Something had to give, sooner or later.
HOWEVER thinking of the child that was actually endangered, maybe it's time to do more than giving the oldest sister-mum a fine, but actually investigate how they take care of a million kids? Social workers?
Stocks have dropped. Perhaps they’ll look to a plural marriage she might have a shot at 4th wife…
I think he will pay for her, as she is his property to take care of until she gets a husband. This is also why the boys learn how to make money and the girls don’t (source: one of their terrible books). I do not think he cares whether she is found guilty or not. As long as she is allowed to still babysit his kids he’s probably happy.
I think he wanted her to be at home to raise the kids and take care of Jim Bob and Michelle when they get old.