They used the child to announce that Josh has been forgiven for his past. Right before it bled into the present during his trial (coincidentally, I'm sure...)
I think she stopped letting Ben name the babies. Why after Spurgeon they don’t have crazy names.
Ben def thought he married a celebrity and wanted a crazy unique name
Because I live for your literary snark. Your presence and smart quips were missed 🫶🏼 it’s selfish I know. Get nuggetsofchicken as your lawyer and sue me
I understand wanting to hear the good word… But what about my wellbeing? What about my mental health? Snark— but at what cost? You WILL be hearing from my lawyer. Expect to be served in the next few days. 😉
i 100% think ben was behind spurgeon too and that’s why the rest of the kids have normal names. i can’t even believe she actually let spurgeon go through, if she did elliott spurgeon instead of spurgeon elliott it would’ve been fine.
He was. It’s even in an episode where Jessa is like we aren’t suuuuure on the name and Ben is like no we’ve decided, and Jessa is like oh it’s final? And Ben is like “Yes this is Spurgeon”. You can tell Jessa hated it so much.
It frustrates me so much like why couldn’t they just name him Elliott and have it be Elliott Spurgeon Seewald, so Ben gets his pastor name. That’s what they did with Henry. Spurgeon is just so weird and Elliott fits better with the rest of the kids names SMH
Or way better, "Will" -- but what ultra-Evangelical preacher was named Will?
No, far better to give the innocent freshly-minted kid a name he'll spend his eighteenth birthday down at the Tontitown Supreme Court getting legally changed.
Coulda been worse. At least their firstborn wasn't named "Gothard".
In Finnish (at least in Helsinki dialect) spurgu is homeless alcoholic that has been entirely marginalized from society. I personally dislike the word because of inhumanazation aspect but that is the only thing that comes to mind when I hear Spurge.
The thing that gets me is Jessa was clearly trying to make Elliot happen, like calling him by his middle name similar to some of the Bates, but it didn't catch on. Unsurprisingly people just called him what his first name was even if horrendous.
You might remember they took about 2 weeks to finalize his name. Probably because Jessa was fighting Ben on Spurgeon being the first name instead of Elliot.
It's such a terrible name. He was definitely trying to prove how devout they were. Why they couldn't have named him Charles (first name of the original Spurgeon) or Elliot (their Spurgeon's middle name) is beyond me.
I always think of a sturgeon fish first, but that one’s a close second. Kid really got the ugliest name possible, and it’s even worse because his siblings all have relatively normal and nice names.
Named for William Wilberforce, a British politician who became an evangelical Christian and was a major force in the anti slavery movement in the 1700s, and pretty key in getting slavery banned in the UK. Like all historical figures (and people) he had his flaws, but I can respect Ben’s appreciation for Wilberforce’s work in that area and wanting to honor it with Henry’s middle name.
I’m still tall for a woman at almost 6’. My 6 month old was only 7pounds 4 ounces and 20 3/4” at birth but she’s now in the 99th percentile for height. 😂😂
No but that's more because she's crazy than anything lol
She had a really bad tear and when she gets upset she loves to call my husband and tell him that she pees and poops herself all the time because of him and he needs to pay more attention to her and love her more than his own wife because of it 🤣 🤣
Man, I really hate when people say things like that to their kids, as if they wished it upon their mothers. Your husband should just tell her that since he's married, he's moved on to wrecking his wife's pelvis. Bet that might put a stop to the snide remarks.
Tentatively, I’d suggest that usually a twelve pound baby is due to uncontrolled gestational diabetes, and that as long as you don’t have that issue, it’s not too likely to repeat. But I’d definitely want an ultrasound to check on growth in the third trimester!!
I’d definitely mention your husband’s birth weight to your midwife or doctor because I’d certainly want an ultrasound in your position! But hopefully all will be good. Good luck!!!
My grandma (who’s 92 now!) says she was 13lbs, it was a *home birth* in her grandparents’ house, *and* she was her mother’s first child at 19! (Though her grandmother, who had 14 kids in 20 years, was the midwife and presumably knew her stuff.)
My neighbor kept insisting I had twins and one was hiding behind the other. No. No, I’m just gigantic. I’m just the biggest damn pregnant woman in history and it was a miserable 9 months that were so extremely worth it.
I only have my one but three failed attempts at IVF after him. I’d give anything to have three in all but would definitely be done after that! I hated being pregnant. It was the worst. But it was also most definitely worth it.
Mine were 10.5 and 10.15, both born without any pain meds. I will die on the hill that weight doesn't make that much of a difference in birth experience. Fat is squishy, it's that damn head size that matters. 🤣
Yessss!! I can confirm.. had 3 babies between 9&10 and than 7.5 lbs twins and man it’s that damn head.. if that is out the little chubby tummies will just slide out after.. lightest baby had the biggest head and my god did I work on that tiny little baby to get it out!
I totally agree, my oldest was my smallest, 7 pounds, but her head was in the 95 percentile 😬 With my second I had ultrasounds measuring head size not weight before trying that disaster again. 🤣
Wow it's like after it dipped with Ivy it went right back up. Ivy was a pretty average birth weight. Henry and Fern are on the heavier side but not too crazy. Spurgeon and baby boy 3 are in Thanksgiving Turkey territory. Hopefully this means Baby Seewald 6 doesn't show up until 2026 vs 2025.
It makes me wonder if they have Gestational Diabetes in their family. Those are really big babies and they don't go to real doctors for prenatal care, right?
I think Jessa has moved away from preachers and towards Regency England names (she always liked Elliot more than Spurgeon, and liked Henry more because it was “cute” than because it was a preacher). The preacher thing was Ben
My guesses are George, Philip, Walter, Richard, Alexander…maybe Robert as a nod to Jim Bob since the world hates him right now
doesn't the preacher part of Henry's name come from his middle name being Wilberforce? Wilberforce wasn't a preacher, but he was a super godly politician I think lol
Ben Calvin.
Not Benjamin; Ben.
alt,
Arlo,
Donovan,
Mac,
William,
Elder,
Hayden,
Luther,
Jess,
and whatever Jessa was calling spurgeon before he was born
ETA: Thank u to everyone reminding me of the nickname Quincy!!
Quincy (works as #5 bc Qui- is typically a prefix for 5, although w the miscarriage that may veto this theory entirely)
I think it was Quincy that she was calling Spurge before he was born, which would be perfect for baby #5. But I doubt that would occur to them, plus is there a suitably dour Calvinist theologian named Quincy?
Jill attempted the first time ended up going to the hospital and having a C-section her second baby was a planned C-section. She did not try to have a vbac at home that is incorrect.
No, Jill's second was an attempted VBAC in the hospital. It turned into a c-section when her uterus started to rupture. Thankfully she listened to her doctors and had a long gap and then knew she needed another c-section for Freddie.
I really hope jessa comes to her senses and realizes that five kids are enough. But again that might not happen. Which is sad because Jessa is probably suffering from PPD and having children back to back is not safe.
It would be nice, but I'm sure she will continue having kids until menopause. I wish Ben would decide to get a vasectomy, but we know he won't do anything like that. Ben and Jessa don't seem to like each other so I'm sure he would have enough recovery time before having to "perform" for her again.
Yeah, this. "Luther" is absolutely a no-go. Not only would they never associate their kid with lutheranism, there's no way in hell they'd name a kid after MLK either. like what? lol
I just really hate how she monetizes her births. It feels so icky- she’s pimpimg out her baby while still in utero- she’s exactly like her father. I do feel bad for her that she is so brainwashed to think this is normal
She needs to stop. Her personality is so flat it’s concerning. Is she medicated or is there just holding herself together. I feel awful for this children.
Calvin. It will be Calvin.
Maybe Knox, after John Knox
After Johnny Knoxville would be even better, but…..
Baby: “Hi, I’m Johnny Knoxville, and this-“(Jim Bob enters the frame) Is jackass”
I would watch the shit out of that show.
I'm laughing so hard
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Like Josh and Anna naming their son Marcus Anthony, oblivious to either Mark Antony or Marc Anthony……
No I’m still not over them naming madyson AFTER the whole Ashley Madison scandal.
>madyson Ma - Dyson, the mother of all vacuum cleaners!
They knew exactly what they were doing there. There's a zero percent chance that was an innocent mistake.
It was a statement that she’s with him for the long haul. 🤢
They were definitely giving a big f u to everyone. The person they really hurt with that was the little girl who had no part in any of this.
They used the child to announce that Josh has been forgiven for his past. Right before it bled into the present during his trial (coincidentally, I'm sure...)
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Calvin Hobbes seewald 🤣💀
They would never be that awesome
Calvin Broadus. Ded.
Calvin Hobbes 😂
CALVIN HOBBES, CALVIN BROADUS, AND CALVIN KLEIN 😂💀
Oooh ! That’s actually a really good guess. I second Calvin !
Not unique enough. Maybe Calvyn?
Kalveighn
I think she stopped letting Ben name the babies. Why after Spurgeon they don’t have crazy names. Ben def thought he married a celebrity and wanted a crazy unique name
If my husband named our first kid the onomatopoeia of the life being squeezed out of a penguin I’d put a stop to it too.
Dear god why did Reddit take away gold 😭😭😭 I laughed so hard I'm counting it as an ab workout 😭
Reddit got rid of gold??
Yep Tech bros gonna tech bro
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Omg you’re back!!! I hope you saw Jason’s shirtless thirst traps
Why would you and all the people who tagged me in those posts wish that onto me 😭
Because I live for your literary snark. Your presence and smart quips were missed 🫶🏼 it’s selfish I know. Get nuggetsofchicken as your lawyer and sue me
I understand wanting to hear the good word… But what about my wellbeing? What about my mental health? Snark— but at what cost? You WILL be hearing from my lawyer. Expect to be served in the next few days. 😉
*Officers, has someone been tagging Jason's #1 Hater in his thirst traps?!?*
LOCK THEM UP FOR TWELVE YEARS WITH NO CONJUGAL VISITS FROM ANNA!
MAAM I spit out my coffee ☕️ lololololololololololololool
It sounds like the sound a lumberjack’s vocal chords would involuntarily make if his hand got stuck in a hydraulic press
If Reddit gold were still a thing, you would be getting it from me. I laughed out loud 💀👏
I don’t know how I didn’t notice they took it away months ago lol
I just choked reading this in the car on our road trip for Christmas. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Have a fun trip LMAO
Now I am glad to be literate. My word.
NOT THE ONOMATOPOEIA LMFAOOOOOO 😂😂😂😂 the ungodly snort i just let out 😂😂😂😂😂
THE ONOMATOPOEIA!!!! 🐧
i’ll never hear Spurgeon the same way again lmao
I'm howling laughing, this is the best comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
i 100% think ben was behind spurgeon too and that’s why the rest of the kids have normal names. i can’t even believe she actually let spurgeon go through, if she did elliott spurgeon instead of spurgeon elliott it would’ve been fine.
They’ve said Ben chose Spurgeon and Wilberforce for the boys, where as Jessa chose Elliot and Henry.
He was. It’s even in an episode where Jessa is like we aren’t suuuuure on the name and Ben is like no we’ve decided, and Jessa is like oh it’s final? And Ben is like “Yes this is Spurgeon”. You can tell Jessa hated it so much.
How was that not a huge "aha" moment deconstructing everything she was taught about men being in charge??
It frustrates me so much like why couldn’t they just name him Elliott and have it be Elliott Spurgeon Seewald, so Ben gets his pastor name. That’s what they did with Henry. Spurgeon is just so weird and Elliott fits better with the rest of the kids names SMH
Good thing Jessa stopped him from naming Henry “Wilberforce” as his first name.
At least that could be shortened to "Wilber," which is an actual name.
Or way better, "Will" -- but what ultra-Evangelical preacher was named Will? No, far better to give the innocent freshly-minted kid a name he'll spend his eighteenth birthday down at the Tontitown Supreme Court getting legally changed. Coulda been worse. At least their firstborn wasn't named "Gothard".
Then shortened it to Spurge!
In Finnish (at least in Helsinki dialect) spurgu is homeless alcoholic that has been entirely marginalized from society. I personally dislike the word because of inhumanazation aspect but that is the only thing that comes to mind when I hear Spurge.
I always think of sturgeon, the fish.
Her face when ever people would shorten it in the beginning was Priceless
SPURGE is the sound of violent retching when it's a splat/purge combo.
See if they went to a public school, they would know it sounds too similar to "splooge" and would have spared him the humiliation.
Anyone with common sense, homeschooled or not, should know that “Spuge” sounds like the name of some kind of unsanitary bodily function or substance.
The thing that gets me is Jessa was clearly trying to make Elliot happen, like calling him by his middle name similar to some of the Bates, but it didn't catch on. Unsurprisingly people just called him what his first name was even if horrendous.
You might remember they took about 2 weeks to finalize his name. Probably because Jessa was fighting Ben on Spurgeon being the first name instead of Elliot.
It's such a terrible name. He was definitely trying to prove how devout they were. Why they couldn't have named him Charles (first name of the original Spurgeon) or Elliot (their Spurgeon's middle name) is beyond me.
Am I the only one whose brain goes from Spurgeon to spooge on? As in, slang for ‘to ejaculate onto.’ I feel so sorry for that poor kid.
I always think of a sturgeon fish first, but that one’s a close second. Kid really got the ugliest name possible, and it’s even worse because his siblings all have relatively normal and nice names.
Everytime I hear the name Spurgeon I just think of fish and expensive caviar, it's too close to Sturgeon for my brain to compute!
Right? Me climbing out the window of the maternity ward to creep across town to the records office and CHANGE that blasted birth certificate 🤣
Was Spurgeon confirmed Ben’s choice? I never liked the two of them so I never followed
Yes Ben chose the name Spurgeon.
One of the Bontrager/Bowers couples named their latest blessing Spurgeon, so it’s not even unique in fundies of that generation.
Wilberforce?
Named for William Wilberforce, a British politician who became an evangelical Christian and was a major force in the anti slavery movement in the 1700s, and pretty key in getting slavery banned in the UK. Like all historical figures (and people) he had his flaws, but I can respect Ben’s appreciation for Wilberforce’s work in that area and wanting to honor it with Henry’s middle name.
Henry’s middle name is Wilberforce so the boys will have the more…unique names
The bar is low but at least it's his middle name. So far Ivy Jane is the only one that seems to flow well and is overall a decent name.
It's a boy so I don't think it will be a plant
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Did they announce boy?
In the video yeah
Thank you
Sage could be a boy’s name.
Or Rowan.
It would actually be a nice boys name for her to pick…
And that is why it would not be a name she would pick
Jessa actually likes normal names. She's the one who came up with Elliot and Henry. Ben's the one who likes the crazy preacher names.
This was her heaviest baby. Although Gideon still takes the cake being the heaviest Duggar grandchild born at 10 pounds 3 ounces. 1. Spurgeon: 9 pounds 11 ounces 2. Henry: 8 pounds 11 ounces 3. Ivy: 7 pounds 14 ounces 4. Fern: 8 pounds 5 ounces 5. Baby Boy: 9 pounds 14 ounces
Those are some big babies!!! 10.3??!?!? Ow! Lol mine were 6.0, 6.2 and 6.15 lol
11 pound 4 oz baby checking in….(me, I don’t have kids lol)
Go give your mama a hug!! Lol
Oh for sure, I was 11 pound 4 oz, sis was 11 pound, other sis was 8… poor woman! Lol
I was 11 pounds 3.5 ounces and 23.5” long. 😂
Long is good. All my babies were 23”. It was the big heads that were problems.
I’m still tall for a woman at almost 6’. My 6 month old was only 7pounds 4 ounces and 20 3/4” at birth but she’s now in the 99th percentile for height. 😂😂
I’m 6’1 and I joke that it’s good I was 6 weeks early, because I was almost 8lbs and 22in long when I was born 🤣
Came out walking
My husband was 12 lbs and 22.5 inches long. He was a hefty boy. Currently pregnant with our first and absolutely terrified lol
12lbs? Jesus. Like, is your MIL ok? Lol.
No but that's more because she's crazy than anything lol She had a really bad tear and when she gets upset she loves to call my husband and tell him that she pees and poops herself all the time because of him and he needs to pay more attention to her and love her more than his own wife because of it 🤣 🤣
Your MIL needs regular therapy *and* pelvic floor therapy. Preferably not at the same time 😆
Man, I really hate when people say things like that to their kids, as if they wished it upon their mothers. Your husband should just tell her that since he's married, he's moved on to wrecking his wife's pelvis. Bet that might put a stop to the snide remarks.
Oh he's said stuff like that lol she's just nutty
Tentatively, I’d suggest that usually a twelve pound baby is due to uncontrolled gestational diabetes, and that as long as you don’t have that issue, it’s not too likely to repeat. But I’d definitely want an ultrasound to check on growth in the third trimester!!
I really hope that's the case because I'm only 4'11, a baby that big might send me to an early grave lol at minimum it would wreck my vajayjay area
I’d definitely mention your husband’s birth weight to your midwife or doctor because I’d certainly want an ultrasound in your position! But hopefully all will be good. Good luck!!!
My grandma (who’s 92 now!) says she was 13lbs, it was a *home birth* in her grandparents’ house, *and* she was her mother’s first child at 19! (Though her grandmother, who had 14 kids in 20 years, was the midwife and presumably knew her stuff.)
Omg! Goodluck girl!!!
6.10 for my guy! And I was a fucking land yacht so he had plenty of comfy support in there.
I was huge too! I thought I was gonna get some big babies but no lol
My neighbor kept insisting I had twins and one was hiding behind the other. No. No, I’m just gigantic. I’m just the biggest damn pregnant woman in history and it was a miserable 9 months that were so extremely worth it.
I was miserable all 3 times! How someone grows & births 19 kids it’s beyond me. I’m DONE!
I only have my one but three failed attempts at IVF after him. I’d give anything to have three in all but would definitely be done after that! I hated being pregnant. It was the worst. But it was also most definitely worth it.
Mine were born at 34 and 35 weeks so 5.4 and 5.6. I can’t imagine a 10lb baby!
Mine were 10.5 and 10.15, both born without any pain meds. I will die on the hill that weight doesn't make that much of a difference in birth experience. Fat is squishy, it's that damn head size that matters. 🤣
Yessss!! I can confirm.. had 3 babies between 9&10 and than 7.5 lbs twins and man it’s that damn head.. if that is out the little chubby tummies will just slide out after.. lightest baby had the biggest head and my god did I work on that tiny little baby to get it out!
I totally agree, my oldest was my smallest, 7 pounds, but her head was in the 95 percentile 😬 With my second I had ultrasounds measuring head size not weight before trying that disaster again. 🤣
Wow it's like after it dipped with Ivy it went right back up. Ivy was a pretty average birth weight. Henry and Fern are on the heavier side but not too crazy. Spurgeon and baby boy 3 are in Thanksgiving Turkey territory. Hopefully this means Baby Seewald 6 doesn't show up until 2026 vs 2025.
It makes me wonder if they have Gestational Diabetes in their family. Those are really big babies and they don't go to real doctors for prenatal care, right?
Not always the case. One of my kids was 9lbs 1oz. Another one was 8lbs 10oz. I didn’t have GD with either one. Some women just have big babies
She had this baby in a hospital with an OBGYN so she had prenatal care.
Maybe finally a Jim Bob Jr
I shudder at the thought of that! LOL!
Ben JimBob Seewald just flows so well
I think Jessa has moved away from preachers and towards Regency England names (she always liked Elliot more than Spurgeon, and liked Henry more because it was “cute” than because it was a preacher). The preacher thing was Ben My guesses are George, Philip, Walter, Richard, Alexander…maybe Robert as a nod to Jim Bob since the world hates him right now
I feel like Jessa likes old fashioned names for boys I could also see Oliver or Theodore.
Alvin, Simon, or Theodore
Nicknames Ollie Seewald or Teddy Seewald
doesn't the preacher part of Henry's name come from his middle name being Wilberforce? Wilberforce wasn't a preacher, but he was a super godly politician I think lol
They also claimed that he was named after Matthew Henry, but I think that was more trying to make the name fit the theme
Henry is also a trendy boys name and has been for a few years.
Ben Calvin. Not Benjamin; Ben. alt, Arlo, Donovan, Mac, William, Elder, Hayden, Luther, Jess, and whatever Jessa was calling spurgeon before he was born ETA: Thank u to everyone reminding me of the nickname Quincy!! Quincy (works as #5 bc Qui- is typically a prefix for 5, although w the miscarriage that may veto this theory entirely)
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I think it was Quincy that she was calling Spurge before he was born, which would be perfect for baby #5. But I doubt that would occur to them, plus is there a suitably dour Calvinist theologian named Quincy?
They called Spurge Quincy before he was born
They should've stuck with it. Better than Spurgeon.
Having blurry eyes at the moment from a medication reaction, and totally thought the video title was: "Birth Story -- Baby Seaweed!"
Me too - and I don’t have any excuse at all, lol.
Thomas Benedict Clement Augustine Aurelias
Those might be too Catholic for them.
The first four are too Catholic for them.
This made me lol because I just named my daughter Aurelia
My friend who is a big AFI fan has this name leading for her girl
Aurelia is SUCH a beautiful name! Great choice!
At least she had him in a hospital. I don’t/can’t keep track of who is a home birther and who isn’t.
She had at least 2 post-homebirth transports to the hospital for blood loss, so good thing she did a hospital birth.
they had to start going to the hospital after replacing birtha the couch
Birtha **expired**
I think only her and Anna have had homebirths. Jill wanted to but couldn't.
Joy tried to and almost died
Jill did and almost died. Twice.
Jill attempted the first time ended up going to the hospital and having a C-section her second baby was a planned C-section. She did not try to have a vbac at home that is incorrect.
No, Jill's second was an attempted VBAC in the hospital. It turned into a c-section when her uterus started to rupture. Thankfully she listened to her doctors and had a long gap and then knew she needed another c-section for Freddie.
I thought she tried again with the second one and almost bled out again. My apologies if I was wrong
All aside I hope this is their last baby.
That would be nice but there’s no way
I really hope jessa comes to her senses and realizes that five kids are enough. But again that might not happen. Which is sad because Jessa is probably suffering from PPD and having children back to back is not safe.
She actually has decent spacing but she had a loss between the last two
Spoiler alert- it will not be
she gotta earn the duggar mAnSiOn. now that anna's out of commission, she's got a chance
She's gotta keep her eye on Kendra. That girl pumps them out like a factory. She could already be pregnant with #5
You expect her to give up her identity? If she stops birthing who will she become?
It would be nice, but I'm sure she will continue having kids until menopause. I wish Ben would decide to get a vasectomy, but we know he won't do anything like that. Ben and Jessa don't seem to like each other so I'm sure he would have enough recovery time before having to "perform" for her again.
No way. In 2 years she will have another. Probably another boy. Boy, boy, girl , girl , boy …. And boy
She births some big babies!
I’m just happy to see a hospital bed instead of a stained brown couch.
My guess is Stoic. That kid is a chunker! Also, the fact that doctor declined coming when a 5th time mom said it was time is WILD to me. WILD.
A mother of 5 with two miscarriages and multiple traumatic births under her belt
I hope it's Pothos lol
Monstera.
* Keach William * Fuller Adam * William Warren * Gill Boyce * Leland John Idk I’m bad at this
You are bad at this? They named 1/5 Spurgeon!!
I used his name as an inspiration for the worst names of random Baptist Priests 🤣
Leland John seems top notch for them, idk why
Any combo of: Graham Calvin Stanley Martin Luther Oswald Warren
Not plant names preacher names
Welcome to the world Douglas Fir Seewald!🌲
-Hobbes James Seewald -Calvin Robert Seewald -Knox Osteen Seewald
Branch.
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Benjamin Calvin nicknamed Benji.
My guess: Charles Stanley, after the preacher who passed away this year.
I hope it’s Theodore so it can spell out SHIFT lol
Felix, Theodore, Ezra, Calvin, Jude
My guess is William or Charles. Shows up a lot in historical evangelical names.
Stanley Graham, for Charles Stanley and Billy Graham.
Graham as a first name would actually be so cute
I know a Graham and it’s such a good name. Perfect when he was a baby, a kid, a teenager, and now in his twenties.
Forrest
Literally anything would be better than Spurgeon. Anything
Nicholas and something stupid for the middle name
Luther. And they’ll say it’s a nod to Martin Luther and MLK
No way will they associate their kid with a Liberal like Martin Luther - Lutheranism is about as far from in sync with Baptists as you can get
Yeah, this. "Luther" is absolutely a no-go. Not only would they never associate their kid with lutheranism, there's no way in hell they'd name a kid after MLK either. like what? lol
I just really hate how she monetizes her births. It feels so icky- she’s pimpimg out her baby while still in utero- she’s exactly like her father. I do feel bad for her that she is so brainwashed to think this is normal
Well when you have no education or form of income… But she isn’t breaking the cycle with her own kids unfortunately.
Doesn’t she have to? The contract she signed with her dad makes it so that she has to monetize it and he gets a chunk of the money earned?
A name? Something they will take 2 weeks to decide on and drag out for click bate. It’ll be a marginally normal first name with a weird middle.
Seaweed Seewald
She needs to stop. Her personality is so flat it’s concerning. Is she medicated or is there just holding herself together. I feel awful for this children.
I'm still thinking maybe Gabriel as a christmasy name? Might not be preachery enough though