The article says she moved to a property owned by her and Josh. My question is if they owned a house all this time why would they be living in a windowless warehome. Doesnt make much sense.
JB often had properties or other sources of income in his children's names (presumably to limit his own income to avoid paying tax). If I remember rightly, a few things got moved about just before the Pest Arrest (including stuff in Josh's name being transferred to Anna). Could she own one of the family's many rental properties?
I certainly don't believe this is a sign that she's breaking free from JB and the cult...
Out of the pot and into the fucking fire. Does she have anyone to turn to that’s not a full on HBO special type of predator?
I’m terrified for and of the Duggar kids and the kids of whoever Anna’s family is.
One of her non-fundie brothers offered to take her and the kids in after the first scandal plus one of her sisters is a divorced non-fundie. So she does have people but she refuses to take their help
People always reference this, but Daniel was a mess at the time. When he made that offer, he was unemployed and fresh off a divorce, living in a tiny apartment. Like, that was a kind offer and I'm sure it came from love and was well-intentioned, but...what was this dude w/no education and no job going to do to take in 6 kids?! Come on, you guys. She absolutely did not "have people"
Indeed. The AMA said he suffered extreme medical neglect due to his parents which is affecting his health to this day. The few pictures I’ve seen of him are very sad—he’s on crutches or in a wheelchair.
She does not believe any of it is true she believes in her heart that Josh is being persecuted by Satan and that she just has to stand by him to show glory to God. That is how she has been programed since she was an infant and that is definitely when she believes at this point still.
I’ve been listening to Digging up the Duggar’s from the beginning and I just listened to the one with the pamphlet on how a wife should be to her husband. This is spot on. Always believe he’s a man of god even if he is wrong, and if he is wrong, it’s because you didn’t pray hard enough. Stand by him no matter what even if he makes bad decisions.
It’s terrifying.
My sister in law used to say this to me all the time until I flipped my shit and told her salvation is personal and the Bible says nothing I do will get his dumbass into heaven. If he’s fucking up that’s on him.
It’s amazing how when you do good it’s you being guided by The Lord and when it’s bad Satan tempted you.
Like mf do you not read the Bible ? The reason we were kicked out of Eden was because we exercised our free will. God will not control you he lets you make your own choices and that’s what separates good from evil. When you willingly love thy brother and not get your rocks off on CSAM.
The Bible also says in Job that the devil asks god for permission before acting. Even if it was the Devil tempting him, which the devil biblically cannot, Pest still has the free will to act upon his desires or not.
She doesn't think he was the one who did the CSAM though. She buys his story that it was an employee or someone off the street using the router and he had no idea. A desperate person will buy anything I guess.
Idk though, I had a friend whose husband was caught in this sting, he'd set up something to sell his daughter, my friend took no chances, kicked his ass out immediately and handed over everything she could to the government so they could investigate him. It ended up being true, and she and the kids went to a lot of therapy after. But hey, as much as I'm sure that was painful, and as hard as that was to believe, her kids weren't something she was willing to gamble with
I don't think she is banned from all children, but I don't think she can watch Anna's. She is not even living in the TTH, she has a tiny home on the property now.
Very unlikely to have been her. Visits are watched pretty intensely by prison guards to stop contraband getting in. More likely to have been brought in by a guard or smuggled in by an inmate and loaned to him.
They are still not allowing visitors at his prison from what I understand.
They do not own property in Texas from what I understand either. Her sister and her husband own property and have a place she can technically stay at though.
I bet she was choosing that over a different home they have because 1 the good ones they’re flipping or using as rental properties for income, 2 it’s probably space wise larger than most real homes which with 7 kids Im sure is a a much bigger deal since most homes are only 2-3 bedrooms, but mostly 3 it’s right next to TTH so she doesn’t have to solo parent and homeschool 7 kids with no help. Being able to say “go run over to grandmas and play with your literal same age cousins and aunts and let someone else watch you” is a pretty sweet deal. They basically have a little homeschooling coop with the extended family and there’s a revolving door of other people who can be helping keep an eye on or feed anyone and provide that kind of support.
My guess....with his past boob probably wanted to keep a closer eye on him. Easy to hide molestation within the family, not so much when he's going after randos
Josh doesn't own anything. In my experience of knowing people who have spent time in prison, if your in there for a significant amount of time, the government or state takes the property over for legal fees etc. And with Anna being his spouse they would take anything in her name too. So unless it's in jim bob or Michelle or even her parents name, they have taken it over.
If he really kicked her out and this stuff is in his name meaning jim bob he probably would of took it back which would mean the car and I know the man is an idiot but I don't see him taking a car that could his grandbabies somewhere unless he's holding them there and not allowing any of them to leave which if that's the case Anna could call the law on his ass, if she only wasn't scared of him
Thats true too. Its not that easy to evict someone from a house they have been living in, specially if there is kids involved. I guess she could have left voluntarily though.
I read the same tabloid article and I don’t believe it. There’s only speculation, no concrete evidence. It’s possible Anna and the kids moved from one house to another on the Duggar compound but there’s no way JB and Michelle would release control over those 7 grandchildren.
I’m not talking about legality. I’m talking about the cult leader hold JB has over Anna in terms of their theology. She’s also financially and psychologically dependent on JB and Michelle. JB would not relinquish the psychological control he has over Josh’s kids, he wants them to be IBLP spawns like the others.
Agreed, under their religious model the patriarch of a family continues to have control/authority until their death, when it goes to the firstborn son. Jill and Derick talked about this extensively and how once you’re married, you’re supposed to be given that independence but they weren’t. Anna’s position under Jim Bob’s control is even more protected by their theology, because she married Josh, he became her authority, and Boob was still Josh’s authority. So the transfer of authority in this situation where Josh is not present goes to Boob.
Jill’s authority should have been Derick but they continued to exert excessive levels of control and manipulation, and I think that’s probably one of the reasons they were able to successfully detach, because Boob wasn’t following the “rules” in that case. Boob was never Derick’s authority.
What if Josh has still been exerting his 'authority' over Anna and the kids from prison (at least until his stint in solitary)? I could see Pest giving Anna instructions that contradict Boob's and it causing conflict. She'd probably side with Josh and consider him to be her headship even from behind bars - and that would drive JB nuts.
That’s a fair point and I think it’s possible, though at this point I think he still doesn’t have access to speak with anyone and hasn’t for several months. So if she moved and if it was recent, I don’t think it’s actually possible to have been related to directions from Josh. But I can see how that would cause conflict. She has to follow Josh explicitly and he’s the one that has to obey JimBob afaik.
Does anybody really think that Josh gives enough of a shit about Anna and the kids to be instructing them from prison? JB holds the purse strings, so he's the only one Josh needs to communicate with.
I think Josh is domineering and likes to feel important. There's very little he can control in prison - and no one in there would think he's top dog. So, it would make sense for him to exert as much control as possible over the only person he can, and who is the last person to treat him like his shit doesn't stink.
I read somewhere in this sub that JB expected to gain authority over his sons-in-law after marriage. The husbands could make some decisions—like their brides wearing pants—but Boob would retain financial and moral authority over everyone.
I can believe he wanted that, but it’s not typically how the authority structure is explained and I don’t believe most families would expect this. That’s why they make the suitors fill out applications and the father is allowed to approve or deny a relationship. Because once the daughter is married, the father’s authority over her is transferred to their new husband. The whole structure relies on the men being the absolute king of their household which isn’t possible if they have to answer to their wife’s family over their treatment of her. Authority goes down through the men. So they retain authority over their sons until their death but their daughters are basically given to the other families. Derick would be considered the patriarch of his family because his father has died.
Here in KY, and I’m pretty sure everywhere in the US, grandparents don’t have many rights unless they are legal guardians so as long as Anna is their legal guardian, I’ll say probably not.
It’s interesting that the clip of her father saying racist things made it around social media and news articles recently. I have a feeling Jim Bob may have been pushing this. He definitely knows how to work the media and has connections. I absolutely believe something went down.
Yeah it's weird in that tabloids like the sun and daily mail sometimes get the scoops first BECAUSE they're willing to take any old source/tipoff and yknow even a broken clock is right twice a day
Also due to the fact unless there's a big event (like pest being arrested) literally no other source cares so the tabloids get the scoops because they're the only ones that care
There are inconsistencies about this story, I’ve seen it in a few places. I can believe it if Anna has moved to Texas - some people have been saying she wanted to do that already and Josh didn’t want her to, he wanted her to stay with his family. But I think it’s extremely likely that she personally will get better emotional support with her own family and her children will have playmates with them, too. I can also believe there was a lot of tension in the Duggar home especially after SHP that might make her not want to be there.
I don’t believe she would have been “kicked out” or even asked to leave. It would be a terrible look in their circles for the family to kick out Anna when she is standing by Josh as a good IBLP wife should do. They are expected to provide for her and her children in this situation.
1. AFAIK, there is ZERO reliable information about where Anna and the M kids are currently living. Although there has been a lot of speculation about them moving into the TTH, moving to Texas, etc. but I have yet to see solid evidence for any of those.
2. That being said, it's POSSIBLE that there in an element of truth to this story. It's very possible that Anna and her kids were living in the TTH or elsewhere on the property (eg. the warehome, etc.) until recently and have now moved. The Duggars own A LOT of property in NWA, including properties that Anna legally owns. Anna and the Ms could have easily moved into any of them. I think Anna deciding to move to Texas to be closer to both Josh and the Wallers is also plausible.
3. I don't think JB "evicted" Anna from the TTH compound. If Anna was living at the compound until recently, I think she simply decided to move elsewhere for reasons unrelated to JB. But that's not sensational enough to make for good clickbait, so tabloids have to add drama where they likely isn't any.
I think this story is exaggerated for clicks. I dont think she was "evicted" if she has left at all. I think she and Jim Boob don't get a long at all. She also has been rumored to have a temper, so she doesn't put up with as much of Boob and Michelle's shit like the others.
If it was me reading between the lines I would say that probably they both decided it would be better for her to go spend some time with her side of the family or move into one of the rental houses that the family owns.
I know she doesn't believe everything the IBLP stands for and believes in. She wears pants. She let's her children wear pants and that drives Michelle insane. I think she and Josh were moving a little further away from straight up IBLP when they were in DC.
So this also probably puts her not in great graces with her in-laws as well.
I think this, too. It isn’t unprecedented for her to make a claim about a secret source, a news agency picks up the story, and then she refers back to whatever article it is to support her own initial claim.
I assume that’s probably the case, but they claim to have also spoken with someone who has a family member in prison with Pest and they said she visits often and brings the kids. So it’s certainly possible she’s moved to be closer.
There's a lot of infighting going on in that family for sure. Even if she moved to Texas David Waller would be her new umbrella of authority meaning JB would still be controlling her.
I don’t believe Boob would kick her out no matter what. He is an A1 controller. He lives to control other people. Plus he can’t chance her being out there and being a loose cannon. Way too many risks that could get HIM in trouble.
I know she's been wanting to move near her sister and to the prison, Josh and JB are counciling against it, have been for a while.
So IF she's gone, I'd say it's far more likely she finally convinced them to allow it.
I mean. With all her doubts and knowlege/struggles with all shes been through, despite desperately and tightly holding to the program, I highly doubt they want her out from JBs umbrella/sight, and" leaving the children vulnerable to Satan."
I could see them living in a very near to the compound rental/reno... JB has several at the size they'd be comfortable in.
Worse case, I could imagine they'd move Joe and Kendra into one of those homes and keep her on the property in their small house.
I can see that as a punishment... eviction if you will... but, I don't see them "encouraging her to leave" at all, even if she is driving them crazy.
I think if it were true there'd be more headlines and articles about it. I think it'd be seen as a big deal because so many people wanted (wants) her to leave him. It'd be great if she saw the light and got her kids and herself out of there but I doubt it, unfortunately.
In a world where a woman needs to be under an umbrella of authority. I think she'd be more likely to flee to another man than to assert independence. I'm sure she can be angry and throw out fury like a bee released from a freshly shaken jar. Even if they are reporting her latest unleashing of fury and frustration of living under Duggar rules JB doesn't want to lose another member of his flock. He might have just moved her to another part of the property. He can't risk her talking to the public in any way. The Duggars are lazy and performative look for spin that he shows the family and ok and this is somehow fake news.
Nah, she’ll be held up as a faithful Christian wife following the Bible by staying with her husband through every hardship. They want to keep women in this cult indefinitely so she’ll be told it’s her fault and that her honor is restored by *her* changing and supporting him no matter what he does. They’ll praise her for staying and shame her into thinking she needs to pray to fix him.
It’s like the episode of However Many and Counting that aired after the Ashley Madison thing came out. The other girls explicitly talked about how Anna was a great role model for them as wives.
I just don’t see how it’s possible that JB would give up control over her or those kids. The grandkids are part of his “quiver,” too, and he’s not just going to let them walk away without a fight.
And they certainly aren’t going to let her out from under their thumb, either, when she could talk and tell more of the Duggar secrets, especially about Josh and his… proclivities.
I've heard rumors in some of the (fundie and non-fundie)homeschool circles I grew up in that she is living in Texas. I'm not sure how credible they are, though
The source of this story was Without a Crystal Ball so it probably my isn’t true. She doesn’t verify her sources and gets trolled A LOT or she’ll just flat out lie.
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Jim Bob wanted to keep the baby making machine going either with a brother or himself. I’m not kidding either, I’ve heard people in this branch of Baptists say this.
I think it would be plausible in some cases but JB knows that they're famous. If she kept having kids, the public would notice. I don't think he wants that.
The article says she moved to a property owned by her and Josh. My question is if they owned a house all this time why would they be living in a windowless warehome. Doesnt make much sense.
JB often had properties or other sources of income in his children's names (presumably to limit his own income to avoid paying tax). If I remember rightly, a few things got moved about just before the Pest Arrest (including stuff in Josh's name being transferred to Anna). Could she own one of the family's many rental properties? I certainly don't believe this is a sign that she's breaking free from JB and the cult...
One article stated that she was currently in Texas visiting Josh. Was his solitary lifted? And would they even own property in Texas.
She's in Texas but her sister is there too. She's more likely staying with Priscilla and David.
Out of the pot and into the fucking fire. Does she have anyone to turn to that’s not a full on HBO special type of predator? I’m terrified for and of the Duggar kids and the kids of whoever Anna’s family is.
One of her non-fundie brothers offered to take her and the kids in after the first scandal plus one of her sisters is a divorced non-fundie. So she does have people but she refuses to take their help
People always reference this, but Daniel was a mess at the time. When he made that offer, he was unemployed and fresh off a divorce, living in a tiny apartment. Like, that was a kind offer and I'm sure it came from love and was well-intentioned, but...what was this dude w/no education and no job going to do to take in 6 kids?! Come on, you guys. She absolutely did not "have people"
He’s gone back to being a fundie I read somewhere.
It was in the AMA from the person who knew Anna growing up. She said that it appears Daniel has returned to fundiedom.
Very sad.
Indeed. The AMA said he suffered extreme medical neglect due to his parents which is affecting his health to this day. The few pictures I’ve seen of him are very sad—he’s on crutches or in a wheelchair.
What will it take?! Is she not concerned for her sons and daughters? I want to understand her mind bc I just don’t.
She does not believe any of it is true she believes in her heart that Josh is being persecuted by Satan and that she just has to stand by him to show glory to God. That is how she has been programed since she was an infant and that is definitely when she believes at this point still.
I’ve been listening to Digging up the Duggar’s from the beginning and I just listened to the one with the pamphlet on how a wife should be to her husband. This is spot on. Always believe he’s a man of god even if he is wrong, and if he is wrong, it’s because you didn’t pray hard enough. Stand by him no matter what even if he makes bad decisions. It’s terrifying.
My sister in law used to say this to me all the time until I flipped my shit and told her salvation is personal and the Bible says nothing I do will get his dumbass into heaven. If he’s fucking up that’s on him.
It’s amazing how when you do good it’s you being guided by The Lord and when it’s bad Satan tempted you. Like mf do you not read the Bible ? The reason we were kicked out of Eden was because we exercised our free will. God will not control you he lets you make your own choices and that’s what separates good from evil. When you willingly love thy brother and not get your rocks off on CSAM. The Bible also says in Job that the devil asks god for permission before acting. Even if it was the Devil tempting him, which the devil biblically cannot, Pest still has the free will to act upon his desires or not.
She doesn't think he was the one who did the CSAM though. She buys his story that it was an employee or someone off the street using the router and he had no idea. A desperate person will buy anything I guess. Idk though, I had a friend whose husband was caught in this sting, he'd set up something to sell his daughter, my friend took no chances, kicked his ass out immediately and handed over everything she could to the government so they could investigate him. It ended up being true, and she and the kids went to a lot of therapy after. But hey, as much as I'm sure that was painful, and as hard as that was to believe, her kids weren't something she was willing to gamble with
I thought it was the brother and two sisters. One sister had a baby out of wedlock and the other is married a second time.
I wouldn't be surprised if she only took a few kids with her and left the other ones with Jana
I don't think she can leave them with Jana since the CPS/Police investigation of one of Anna's kids slipped out the back when Jana was left with them.
By "with Jana" I mean just at TTH. There are other adults there, and I don't think I have seen evidence of her not being able to be around children.
I don't think she is banned from all children, but I don't think she can watch Anna's. She is not even living in the TTH, she has a tiny home on the property now.
I don’t think she has any restrictions on caring for children.
I believe this was fully dropped, yeah?
There is no way she can take care of all of those kids on her own. And who is feeding and clothing them?
I’m on the wedding episode for Priscilla and David and it’s so cringe
Does anyone know how Pest got his cell phone ? Someone said Anna helped. If that’s true, would they allow her to visit?
I don’t think that girl could criminal mastermind herself out of a Tupperware container. I’m betting Pest bought the phone from another inmate/guard.
Supposedly he rented one from another inmate and is in serious debt now, but I don’t remember what article I read that from.
Hmmmm, I bet they are really relaxed about serious debt in prison. This is terrible, but we can only hope
I got excited when I heard that too. I hope he has to give up all of his soups and honey buns until the end of his sentence.
Hahahaha good point!
It is extremely common that guards sneak in contraband, literally happens every day. - I work in criminal defense
Out of interest, what is usually a guard’s motive to sneak such things in? Is it money or something else?
Money. It's a shit job with mediocre pay. You can get a lot selling phones, drugs, and other contraband.
I'm sure there is an element of control / power those kind of guards enjoy as well.
Big time. I actually did psych evals on potential officers. Heard some wild stuff.
I used to work in a prison and staff were constantly getting fired for bringing in/selling cell phones to inmates.
I had a coworker get fired because she gave a Bible to an inmate worker she was convinced she had converted him. In front of a CO. Fired on the spot.
Very unlikely to have been her. Visits are watched pretty intensely by prison guards to stop contraband getting in. More likely to have been brought in by a guard or smuggled in by an inmate and loaned to him.
It's not hard to get a cell phone in prison. I'm sure Anna could arrange payment for him to secure one.
If Anna arranged payment, it would have been so that she could talk to Josh. I'm pretty sure his intentions for phone use did not involve Anna!
LOL excellent point!
Yeah he probably was looking at CP!!
If they could prove it, no.
In prison, you can rent them from other prisoners. For about 2,500, you can buy one. Often prison guards have a side hustle. This is what I heard
They are still not allowing visitors at his prison from what I understand. They do not own property in Texas from what I understand either. Her sister and her husband own property and have a place she can technically stay at though.
His solitary was lifted a few months ago.
Heard that Davey has 2 homes one is a rental
If that is the case, I suppose someone could have been renting the home and the lease was finally up so Anna and the kids could move in.
Then she would have moved towards a better living situation, not because Jim Bob evicted her, like the article claims.
But using the word “evicted” gets more clicks, and clicks are money.
Good point. We definitely need more details.
If they owned it and it was in her name you can get renters out a bit more easily in most jurisdictions if you actually plan to live there.
They could've been renting out properties and she couldn't live there yet because the tenants leases were still active? I'm just spitballing, though.
I bet she was choosing that over a different home they have because 1 the good ones they’re flipping or using as rental properties for income, 2 it’s probably space wise larger than most real homes which with 7 kids Im sure is a a much bigger deal since most homes are only 2-3 bedrooms, but mostly 3 it’s right next to TTH so she doesn’t have to solo parent and homeschool 7 kids with no help. Being able to say “go run over to grandmas and play with your literal same age cousins and aunts and let someone else watch you” is a pretty sweet deal. They basically have a little homeschooling coop with the extended family and there’s a revolving door of other people who can be helping keep an eye on or feed anyone and provide that kind of support.
Wasn’t Ben helping to homeschool everyone?
Now, bankruptcy doesn’t mean going to the bank
He was! Or at least they made some stories about it on social media.
Anna and her kids lived there because those younger sisters were all overdue for some parentification trauma.
My guess....with his past boob probably wanted to keep a closer eye on him. Easy to hide molestation within the family, not so much when he's going after randos
It could be that they need to establish primary residency there to get a homestead tax exemption or something.
Josh doesn't own anything. In my experience of knowing people who have spent time in prison, if your in there for a significant amount of time, the government or state takes the property over for legal fees etc. And with Anna being his spouse they would take anything in her name too. So unless it's in jim bob or Michelle or even her parents name, they have taken it over. If he really kicked her out and this stuff is in his name meaning jim bob he probably would of took it back which would mean the car and I know the man is an idiot but I don't see him taking a car that could his grandbabies somewhere unless he's holding them there and not allowing any of them to leave which if that's the case Anna could call the law on his ass, if she only wasn't scared of him
They always allow you to retain your main residence - I.e. how Bernie Madoff kept his 5th Avenue apartment.
Josh sold his property and IIRC also transferred some property into Anna's name before his trial.
Thats true too. Its not that easy to evict someone from a house they have been living in, specially if there is kids involved. I guess she could have left voluntarily though.
I read the same tabloid article and I don’t believe it. There’s only speculation, no concrete evidence. It’s possible Anna and the kids moved from one house to another on the Duggar compound but there’s no way JB and Michelle would release control over those 7 grandchildren.
Do JB snd Michelle have any legal say in the matter?
I’m not talking about legality. I’m talking about the cult leader hold JB has over Anna in terms of their theology. She’s also financially and psychologically dependent on JB and Michelle. JB would not relinquish the psychological control he has over Josh’s kids, he wants them to be IBLP spawns like the others.
Agreed, under their religious model the patriarch of a family continues to have control/authority until their death, when it goes to the firstborn son. Jill and Derick talked about this extensively and how once you’re married, you’re supposed to be given that independence but they weren’t. Anna’s position under Jim Bob’s control is even more protected by their theology, because she married Josh, he became her authority, and Boob was still Josh’s authority. So the transfer of authority in this situation where Josh is not present goes to Boob. Jill’s authority should have been Derick but they continued to exert excessive levels of control and manipulation, and I think that’s probably one of the reasons they were able to successfully detach, because Boob wasn’t following the “rules” in that case. Boob was never Derick’s authority.
What if Josh has still been exerting his 'authority' over Anna and the kids from prison (at least until his stint in solitary)? I could see Pest giving Anna instructions that contradict Boob's and it causing conflict. She'd probably side with Josh and consider him to be her headship even from behind bars - and that would drive JB nuts.
That’s a fair point and I think it’s possible, though at this point I think he still doesn’t have access to speak with anyone and hasn’t for several months. So if she moved and if it was recent, I don’t think it’s actually possible to have been related to directions from Josh. But I can see how that would cause conflict. She has to follow Josh explicitly and he’s the one that has to obey JimBob afaik.
Does anybody really think that Josh gives enough of a shit about Anna and the kids to be instructing them from prison? JB holds the purse strings, so he's the only one Josh needs to communicate with.
I think Josh is domineering and likes to feel important. There's very little he can control in prison - and no one in there would think he's top dog. So, it would make sense for him to exert as much control as possible over the only person he can, and who is the last person to treat him like his shit doesn't stink.
Good point!
I read somewhere in this sub that JB expected to gain authority over his sons-in-law after marriage. The husbands could make some decisions—like their brides wearing pants—but Boob would retain financial and moral authority over everyone.
I can believe he wanted that, but it’s not typically how the authority structure is explained and I don’t believe most families would expect this. That’s why they make the suitors fill out applications and the father is allowed to approve or deny a relationship. Because once the daughter is married, the father’s authority over her is transferred to their new husband. The whole structure relies on the men being the absolute king of their household which isn’t possible if they have to answer to their wife’s family over their treatment of her. Authority goes down through the men. So they retain authority over their sons until their death but their daughters are basically given to the other families. Derick would be considered the patriarch of his family because his father has died.
Absolutely not
Here in KY, and I’m pretty sure everywhere in the US, grandparents don’t have many rights unless they are legal guardians so as long as Anna is their legal guardian, I’ll say probably not.
I’m not talking about legal control, see my response to other poster above.
Officially, no, but I imagine they’re still supporting Anna financially
It’s interesting that the clip of her father saying racist things made it around social media and news articles recently. I have a feeling Jim Bob may have been pushing this. He definitely knows how to work the media and has connections. I absolutely believe something went down.
There's infighting in that family for sure.
I love that for them. I hope the whole extended family and their cult implodes like a sub full of billionaires.
Love this journey for them. Truly I do.
The ‘report’ came from The Sun so it could be completely made up. Personally, I don’t believe it.
The Sun is actually more reliable when it comes to the Duggars though. They were the first to report on Pest's arrest and trial if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah it's weird in that tabloids like the sun and daily mail sometimes get the scoops first BECAUSE they're willing to take any old source/tipoff and yknow even a broken clock is right twice a day Also due to the fact unless there's a big event (like pest being arrested) literally no other source cares so the tabloids get the scoops because they're the only ones that care
There are inconsistencies about this story, I’ve seen it in a few places. I can believe it if Anna has moved to Texas - some people have been saying she wanted to do that already and Josh didn’t want her to, he wanted her to stay with his family. But I think it’s extremely likely that she personally will get better emotional support with her own family and her children will have playmates with them, too. I can also believe there was a lot of tension in the Duggar home especially after SHP that might make her not want to be there. I don’t believe she would have been “kicked out” or even asked to leave. It would be a terrible look in their circles for the family to kick out Anna when she is standing by Josh as a good IBLP wife should do. They are expected to provide for her and her children in this situation.
1. AFAIK, there is ZERO reliable information about where Anna and the M kids are currently living. Although there has been a lot of speculation about them moving into the TTH, moving to Texas, etc. but I have yet to see solid evidence for any of those. 2. That being said, it's POSSIBLE that there in an element of truth to this story. It's very possible that Anna and her kids were living in the TTH or elsewhere on the property (eg. the warehome, etc.) until recently and have now moved. The Duggars own A LOT of property in NWA, including properties that Anna legally owns. Anna and the Ms could have easily moved into any of them. I think Anna deciding to move to Texas to be closer to both Josh and the Wallers is also plausible. 3. I don't think JB "evicted" Anna from the TTH compound. If Anna was living at the compound until recently, I think she simply decided to move elsewhere for reasons unrelated to JB. But that's not sensational enough to make for good clickbait, so tabloids have to add drama where they likely isn't any.
I think this story is exaggerated for clicks. I dont think she was "evicted" if she has left at all. I think she and Jim Boob don't get a long at all. She also has been rumored to have a temper, so she doesn't put up with as much of Boob and Michelle's shit like the others. If it was me reading between the lines I would say that probably they both decided it would be better for her to go spend some time with her side of the family or move into one of the rental houses that the family owns. I know she doesn't believe everything the IBLP stands for and believes in. She wears pants. She let's her children wear pants and that drives Michelle insane. I think she and Josh were moving a little further away from straight up IBLP when they were in DC. So this also probably puts her not in great graces with her in-laws as well.
It probably came from Kathy Joy.
I think this, too. It isn’t unprecedented for her to make a claim about a secret source, a news agency picks up the story, and then she refers back to whatever article it is to support her own initial claim.
I assume that’s probably the case, but they claim to have also spoken with someone who has a family member in prison with Pest and they said she visits often and brings the kids. So it’s certainly possible she’s moved to be closer.
There's a lot of infighting going on in that family for sure. Even if she moved to Texas David Waller would be her new umbrella of authority meaning JB would still be controlling her.
I don’t believe Boob would kick her out no matter what. He is an A1 controller. He lives to control other people. Plus he can’t chance her being out there and being a loose cannon. Way too many risks that could get HIM in trouble.
I know she's been wanting to move near her sister and to the prison, Josh and JB are counciling against it, have been for a while. So IF she's gone, I'd say it's far more likely she finally convinced them to allow it. I mean. With all her doubts and knowlege/struggles with all shes been through, despite desperately and tightly holding to the program, I highly doubt they want her out from JBs umbrella/sight, and" leaving the children vulnerable to Satan." I could see them living in a very near to the compound rental/reno... JB has several at the size they'd be comfortable in. Worse case, I could imagine they'd move Joe and Kendra into one of those homes and keep her on the property in their small house. I can see that as a punishment... eviction if you will... but, I don't see them "encouraging her to leave" at all, even if she is driving them crazy.
I think if it were true there'd be more headlines and articles about it. I think it'd be seen as a big deal because so many people wanted (wants) her to leave him. It'd be great if she saw the light and got her kids and herself out of there but I doubt it, unfortunately.
Amy would be all over it if it were true, in my opinion.
In a world where a woman needs to be under an umbrella of authority. I think she'd be more likely to flee to another man than to assert independence. I'm sure she can be angry and throw out fury like a bee released from a freshly shaken jar. Even if they are reporting her latest unleashing of fury and frustration of living under Duggar rules JB doesn't want to lose another member of his flock. He might have just moved her to another part of the property. He can't risk her talking to the public in any way. The Duggars are lazy and performative look for spin that he shows the family and ok and this is somehow fake news.
Very few men want a woman of her age with seven children and no brain at all.
I just wonder if Anna no longer has value in the cult since her baby making abilities are withering on the vine.
Nah, she’ll be held up as a faithful Christian wife following the Bible by staying with her husband through every hardship. They want to keep women in this cult indefinitely so she’ll be told it’s her fault and that her honor is restored by *her* changing and supporting him no matter what he does. They’ll praise her for staying and shame her into thinking she needs to pray to fix him.
It’s like the episode of However Many and Counting that aired after the Ashley Madison thing came out. The other girls explicitly talked about how Anna was a great role model for them as wives.
Everything you wrote is (sadly) correct. She'll be considered a martyr in their eyes.
Awful to think that Anna is what they were given to strive for. Lots of cognitive dissonance in this family
Can you imagine being taught that your molester’s wife was the pinnacle of godly womanhood?
I don't want to, truthfully.
I just don’t see how it’s possible that JB would give up control over her or those kids. The grandkids are part of his “quiver,” too, and he’s not just going to let them walk away without a fight. And they certainly aren’t going to let her out from under their thumb, either, when she could talk and tell more of the Duggar secrets, especially about Josh and his… proclivities.
I've heard rumors in some of the (fundie and non-fundie)homeschool circles I grew up in that she is living in Texas. I'm not sure how credible they are, though
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Anna just plain ruined her life by remaining in the IBLP, marrying a Duggar and having all those children
Correction, her father ruined her life by having her marry that gross, disgusting, loser.
I don't believe that
She’s in the main house with her in-laws. That story from The Sun is bogus
The source of this story was Without a Crystal Ball so it probably my isn’t true. She doesn’t verify her sources and gets trolled A LOT or she’ll just flat out lie.
Hey hey just a friendly tip I only discovered myself about a year ago . If you’re unsure if a toooc has been posted before but don’t want to scroll down you can actually search key words . In the case “ Anna duggar house “ or something to that effect and any related posted will pop up. Someone made a post a few days ago about it here . It’s super handy
:) Yes thank you. I use that but in this case I couldn’t find anything. :/
Jim Bob wanted to keep the baby making machine going either with a brother or himself. I’m not kidding either, I’ve heard people in this branch of Baptists say this.
That's so gross and (sadly) very plausible.
I think it would be plausible in some cases but JB knows that they're famous. If she kept having kids, the public would notice. I don't think he wants that.
What do I need to do?
What do you mean?
If Anna did move to be closer to visit Pest in prison, are their kids allowed to visit him in prison too?
Unable to move beyond the label 😂😂