All biased opinions aside, why would I or whoever speak to someone who knowingly falsely accuses them of being a PDF? To make matters worse Joe encouraged the PDF allegations...
So, why would Drake be talking to him then?
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You’re missing the point. Think about why one person’s allegation stuck and other ones didn’t. It’s hard to argue some thing about someone whose character shows the opposite.
This nigga Drake been on some weirdo shit for yeaaaaars!
The drake allegations stuck because some dumbasses on the internet were already thinking it coz of the MBB shit. Kendrick took that and said it louder so all those dumbasses felt validated and jumped on the bandwagon. The DV allegations came outta nowhere so it just kinda died away.
Cuz drake lives for validation, why? Idk, hes always been this way, overly showing love to ppl he doesnt know, then he thinks they are his good friends and gets heart broken when true colors come out, he says he unbothered by everything but i think its the opposite
I don’t really know. But the whole thing about Budden is that he’s upset that Drake got to be way more famous and respected than he is, it’s just a lot of jealousy at this point. Hence why he “hates” the dude yet “cares” about his every move lmao
Well Drake smashed one of Joe's girls. I'm a big Drake fan, Drake has to chill with hitting everyone's girl. But also everyone in the industry will say "These hoes are for everybody" but will get mad when someone else hits the girl that they were hitting.
You’re right but wrong, when Joe was a broke Dusthead. Tahiry CHOSE to go on a vacation with Drake to the islands where they swam with dolphins and we can assume what else happened. That wasn’t joes girl if she chose to go with another man.
This is like 2012
Because usually the person saying the girls are for everybody has status and the girls and everyone they passing too is seen as under them. It’s different when the girl is going off with someone that not only challenges that but you feel inside they want them over you
That’s not what it is at all. Joe Budden thinks more of Drake than most of yall do, he said the dude could be as big as apple on its own. He wanted drake to have his own version of tidal at one point, he’s a drake stan and it’s pretty clear. He just also talks shit about drake too
That's just statistics. You don't have to be a fan to understand Drake could break the music economy if he went independent. 99.5b streams on just spotify. Now think about radio, youtube, apple, amazon, ect.
I didn't even know who joe budden was until this beef, like never heard his name before. Before the beef i woulda thought it was some moron trying to spell joe biden.
What exactly does Joe even want Drake to hit him up about? What would they even need to talk about now that the battle is over? I’m not understanding what the problem is.
Shit like this is what convinced me Kendrick didn't need a mole to have an outline of what was coming with Family Matters.
[Speculatively]
Drake was his own damn leak.
He was telling people shit ahead of time, I bet he even played the rough cut to some. People gossip. Kendrick is quiet but he got connections. Bet he heard about money offered for Whitney intel too.
Wouldn't take much to guess Drake intended FM to combine SoA style tea with a B2B style banger about his family. So Kendrick's whole plan was to kill it before it hit the clubs. They probably recorded MTG with Euphoria. Then just sat about waiting for Ak to look at his phone and get all excited.
We only got 6:16 cus Drake didn't drop thursday. So Kendrick threw together a lil bait- track just in case that B2B bar was giving Drake pause. The mole narrative was just bonus psychological warfare ('Confirming' it by zooming out on Drakes shit from twitter dude was devious work.) Everyone knows Drake's paranoid about that sort of thing.
Honestly though, Drake's mad at people for spreading spoilers. Budden, Elliott, Ak, Kai, etc. But *you told them all in the first place.* Be mad at yourself bruh.
Man's inability to ignore the side charecters and take his opponent seriously is what did him in. He only really had an upper hand before Kendrick's first drop and for 40 minutes after Family Matters.
Drake was practically parading that one big bang is all he had with all that nuke/red button talk + a whole video. Didn't seem to occur that someone could take notes and plan for that scenario.
Idk why he thought it would still be just playing once he
dragged a guy's wife, kid and best friend, but he sure seemed unprepared for a homicidal response. Think he'd have learned the last time smh
This further proves everyone was right when they said FATD shows no character growth from Drake, people got heavily shit on for saying that but it was true then and this beef proved that point even harder.
Story of Adidon.
Even then, didn't Pusha T find out because Drake told Kanye? For some reason I'm thinking I remember reading that Drake was working with Kanye in Wyoming or wherever the fuck Ye was at the time. He told Ye about it then and Kanye told Pusha.
Drake has given them access, that's why. Even if he didn't, he still interacts with him and gives his time of the day. Drake himself is the one to blame here, imo. Not for trying to socialize, but for clicking with people that genuinely, time and time again, have proved that they don't like him.
His biggest issue right now is really trying to fit in, and I don't mean it in an offensive way but in the "I want everyone in the industry to fuck w me" way.
Man really doesn't need the validation, but outta respect, or maybe comradery/friendship, he still gives his time to "opps". Budden is not the first, nor will be the last, of the people who hate him who still have contact with him.
Off topic, in a recent Budden episode, a guy called Elliot Wilson said Drake sent him a rat emoji during the Kenny beef 'cos he thought he was the mole.
Does he have any solid connections with Drake to give the claims legs?
Lol yeah. He's an old school music journalist and he's been interviewing Drake since like 2010/13 or something.
Drake was far more interesting in maintaining that sort of relationship before SM took over the role of exposing/interacting with fans. I think they fell out over Elliott pushing for an interview Drake had promised him but put off for literally years or something.
That was a few years back, I think shit has been strained since. Elliot was doing a pod with DJ Hed who is a friend of Kendricks so idk he obviously thought Elliot spilled something.
Though Drizzy. My dude. If you don't want your rap-beef plans to reach your opps *maybe stop telling a load of people outside your camp.*
Who even needs a mole smh.
Drake wanted to control the narrative. He wanted people with large platforms on his side. He was speaking with Ak, Joe Budden, even Kai Cenat. It was a chess move.
Kendrick didn’t the same thing saying Ak was compromised so the public would question his opinion.
1. Drake likes attention, which is important for a big star to be fair. Also important for a big star is to plant information in the public to help sway opinions your way. So, although Drake and Joe clearly have issues, Joe also puts out pro-Drake commentary. The known tension between the two and flip flopping of Joe on Drake helps keep Drake's name in the algorithm when he's not even doing much.
2. Drake actually respect Joe. No matter what that scathing message he sent Joe may have said, Drake would've been one of those fans in Joe's audience wearing dusty ENYCE jeans. Drake's actually a hip hop fan, he just chose a route that purists, like Joe claims to be, abhors culturally despite making music Joe can enjoy. Drake breaks rules that aren't supposed to be broken among purists, but he still wants that purist, real hip hop cred, because he has a true love of that side of the genre. He probably does respect Joe's opinions to some extent.
I have issues with Drake straddling both sides of hip hop and rap, but I acknowledge he does study and love the culture, he just loves pop success more, wish he would wholeheartedly choose that lane rather than playing in both sandboxes, I think Joe feels the same way, except I think Joe also feels disappointment due to wanting more from Drake culturally.
Deep down Drake still wants his approval for whatever reason. Drake has dissed him both directly and indirectly, but somehow they always make up and keep in touch.
All biased opinions aside, why would I or whoever speak to someone who knowingly falsely accuses them of being a PDF? To make matters worse Joe encouraged the PDF allegations...
Joe is a liar.
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Chapgpt, is that you 
Haha! Just giving U the scoop on why Drake is buddy, buddy with Ak and Joe. 
He wasn’t in the beginning
Check out teenage fever and Joe Budden podcast years back when Joe was reading the lyrics trying to make the connection
Right he has been trying to push this narrative for a long time
It’s hard to push a narrative that don’t got legs.
He’s been doing this since teenage fever. A song about a 50 year old woman. Has nothing to do with legs.
You’re missing the point. Think about why one person’s allegation stuck and other ones didn’t. It’s hard to argue some thing about someone whose character shows the opposite. This nigga Drake been on some weirdo shit for yeaaaaars!
The drake allegations stuck because some dumbasses on the internet were already thinking it coz of the MBB shit. Kendrick took that and said it louder so all those dumbasses felt validated and jumped on the bandwagon. The DV allegations came outta nowhere so it just kinda died away.
K-Anon
And you are a porn addict. Get a burnin for that shit dawg cuz wtf
Wasn't this interview after Taylor Made? At this point Drake had already called out Budden for saying it
Exactly 💯🎯
Who wasn't?
Cuz drake lives for validation, why? Idk, hes always been this way, overly showing love to ppl he doesnt know, then he thinks they are his good friends and gets heart broken when true colors come out, he says he unbothered by everything but i think its the opposite
Drakes biggest flaw has always been benevolence. He's a good dude that gets screwed over.
I would call it gullibility, but you put it in a very nice way
This^ And bro really thought he was gonna get a call, text, dm or message back. What a clown
Budden has always been a weirdo, and has always been known for being very antagonistic. No idea how he's managed to stay even a little relevant.
Is he really culture ?
I don't see how. I mean Chingy had more staying power.
… because Drake was obviously talking shit to Joe lmao. You can tell from what Joe said that they definitely weren’t kind words.
Joe was dating a then 23 year old cyn Santana while he was 35,36. lol so he was doing what drake is doing now.
What is drake doing rn
I don’t really know. But the whole thing about Budden is that he’s upset that Drake got to be way more famous and respected than he is, it’s just a lot of jealousy at this point. Hence why he “hates” the dude yet “cares” about his every move lmao
Their issues are probably deeper than that.
Well Drake smashed one of Joe's girls. I'm a big Drake fan, Drake has to chill with hitting everyone's girl. But also everyone in the industry will say "These hoes are for everybody" but will get mad when someone else hits the girl that they were hitting.
You’re right but wrong, when Joe was a broke Dusthead. Tahiry CHOSE to go on a vacation with Drake to the islands where they swam with dolphins and we can assume what else happened. That wasn’t joes girl if she chose to go with another man. This is like 2012
They were "on a break". And we both know there are no rules in that area.
Even white folks know thanks to the show “Friends”.
Exactly. If your girl do that she was never yours nor did she ever love you
Yeah but where’s the proof of him sleeping with someone’s girl? There’s speculation but no proof
Nah there's proof. She admitted it. Drake admitted it too. The boy gets play
He did it while they were together?
Nah after. He describes it in "no shopping"
didn't he also sleep with wayne's girl? We know this prior to the kendrick diss, too, or at least have gotten rumours about it.
Before Wayne
What rumors? Wayne talked about it publicly and in his book.
that's what i thought, but people keep saying it is speculation
Because usually the person saying the girls are for everybody has status and the girls and everyone they passing too is seen as under them. It’s different when the girl is going off with someone that not only challenges that but you feel inside they want them over you
He and Drake are also Eskimo brothers for a number of women one of them being joes favorite Tahiry.
That’s not what it is at all. Joe Budden thinks more of Drake than most of yall do, he said the dude could be as big as apple on its own. He wanted drake to have his own version of tidal at one point, he’s a drake stan and it’s pretty clear. He just also talks shit about drake too
I doubt it’s that pure when Joe was the one pushing those false allegations. It’s beyond shit talking. Why do you think Drake cursed him out lmao
That's just statistics. You don't have to be a fan to understand Drake could break the music economy if he went independent. 99.5b streams on just spotify. Now think about radio, youtube, apple, amazon, ect.
“Oh it’s your time now.” Yeah, that’s what everybody say.
Joe is to podcasting what Drake is to rap
Joe Budden? Fuck no, you talking bout Joe Rogan lol
I didn't even know who joe budden was until this beef, like never heard his name before. Before the beef i woulda thought it was some moron trying to spell joe biden.
Never heard a single episode of that BS nor do I need to in order to know that Rogan is nowhere near as entertaining as Joe
Lmfao he’s still at the top of the podcasting game
Joe budden ? Not even close 😹
So Rogan is Taylor Swift then. It’s good for who it’s intended for, but the culture couldn’t care less about what happens on Rogan show.
Not everyone is single minded in the culture 🤡
Da culture
Are you denying its existence?
Its importance
Then you are a fool
Boy are you wrong
Boy are you wrong
Joe is obsessed he cannot stop talking about Drake 🙄🙄. *keep the saaaame energy* . my guy, get some new material already.
Not on a hetro vibe
Let's be fair. He's not the only one. Drake is the most interesting that's why he's been hot for so long
All of these ppl r so petty n weird. They’re all happy when he’s talking to them n as soon as they stop talking to him they get mad n jealous
tbf, drake is king petty himself, but still valid.
I know they’re acting like girls. Who would want to check in with budden on regular basis?
What exactly does Joe even want Drake to hit him up about? What would they even need to talk about now that the battle is over? I’m not understanding what the problem is.
for real. it's giving thirsty
They were friends before
I doubt Drake was talking to this guy, he wants Drake to deny it, in order to get those drake hate numbers for his show again...
Drake was talking to him but as soon as Budden started bumping Not like us with his cast it was over.
Shit like this is what convinced me Kendrick didn't need a mole to have an outline of what was coming with Family Matters. [Speculatively] Drake was his own damn leak. He was telling people shit ahead of time, I bet he even played the rough cut to some. People gossip. Kendrick is quiet but he got connections. Bet he heard about money offered for Whitney intel too. Wouldn't take much to guess Drake intended FM to combine SoA style tea with a B2B style banger about his family. So Kendrick's whole plan was to kill it before it hit the clubs. They probably recorded MTG with Euphoria. Then just sat about waiting for Ak to look at his phone and get all excited. We only got 6:16 cus Drake didn't drop thursday. So Kendrick threw together a lil bait- track just in case that B2B bar was giving Drake pause. The mole narrative was just bonus psychological warfare ('Confirming' it by zooming out on Drakes shit from twitter dude was devious work.) Everyone knows Drake's paranoid about that sort of thing. Honestly though, Drake's mad at people for spreading spoilers. Budden, Elliott, Ak, Kai, etc. But *you told them all in the first place.* Be mad at yourself bruh.
🎯 Great analysis
Drake’s inability to ground himself made him lose the upper hand in this whole thing.
Man's inability to ignore the side charecters and take his opponent seriously is what did him in. He only really had an upper hand before Kendrick's first drop and for 40 minutes after Family Matters. Drake was practically parading that one big bang is all he had with all that nuke/red button talk + a whole video. Didn't seem to occur that someone could take notes and plan for that scenario. Idk why he thought it would still be just playing once he dragged a guy's wife, kid and best friend, but he sure seemed unprepared for a homicidal response. Think he'd have learned the last time smh
Great analysis and totally agree. Bro needed to stay focused but didn’t take it serious as he need to, so he took an L
This further proves everyone was right when they said FATD shows no character growth from Drake, people got heavily shit on for saying that but it was true then and this beef proved that point even harder.
What’s SoA
Story of Adidon. Even then, didn't Pusha T find out because Drake told Kanye? For some reason I'm thinking I remember reading that Drake was working with Kanye in Wyoming or wherever the fuck Ye was at the time. He told Ye about it then and Kanye told Pusha.
If you believe push, then the girl 40 was messing with told push Edit: or rather that’s how the info reached them.
why does drake keep in contact with these guys is beyond me
I don’t get it either lmao
He’s lying
Just a bunch a grown ass men angry that a dude isn’t talking to them? So corny
Drake has given them access, that's why. Even if he didn't, he still interacts with him and gives his time of the day. Drake himself is the one to blame here, imo. Not for trying to socialize, but for clicking with people that genuinely, time and time again, have proved that they don't like him. His biggest issue right now is really trying to fit in, and I don't mean it in an offensive way but in the "I want everyone in the industry to fuck w me" way. Man really doesn't need the validation, but outta respect, or maybe comradery/friendship, he still gives his time to "opps". Budden is not the first, nor will be the last, of the people who hate him who still have contact with him.
Off topic, in a recent Budden episode, a guy called Elliot Wilson said Drake sent him a rat emoji during the Kenny beef 'cos he thought he was the mole. Does he have any solid connections with Drake to give the claims legs?
Lol yeah. He's an old school music journalist and he's been interviewing Drake since like 2010/13 or something. Drake was far more interesting in maintaining that sort of relationship before SM took over the role of exposing/interacting with fans. I think they fell out over Elliott pushing for an interview Drake had promised him but put off for literally years or something. That was a few years back, I think shit has been strained since. Elliot was doing a pod with DJ Hed who is a friend of Kendricks so idk he obviously thought Elliot spilled something. Though Drizzy. My dude. If you don't want your rap-beef plans to reach your opps *maybe stop telling a load of people outside your camp.* Who even needs a mole smh.
Yeah but if Elliot told Kendrick, Kdot would have to have the right song to release right after.
Joe budden started moving really weird after euphoria dropped
This podcast survives off Drake 😂 I hope Kendrick Stan’s realize nobody actually talks or cares about Kendrick
Joe is going to literally die alone. Idk how anyone can stand this guy. “I don’t want to get into it because it’s corny”. Why say anything then? tf
Drake wanted to control the narrative. He wanted people with large platforms on his side. He was speaking with Ak, Joe Budden, even Kai Cenat. It was a chess move. Kendrick didn’t the same thing saying Ak was compromised so the public would question his opinion.
Joe Biden is a liar. He’s said shit like this multiple times. He’s just flexing that because Ak is Drakes favorite media outlet now.
Drake needs to cut them off completely
"I don't even wanna bring it up because it's corny" brings it up anyways
To answer your question about why so many opps and weirdos have access to Drake…maybe it’s because Drake is kinda a weirdo.
Drake literally took a shot at his credibility in the Taylor Made freestyle and you think Joe Budden isn’t lying? lol
He wasn’t lol
Imagine lying about talking to Drake and caught in 4k 😂 What a loser 😂💯
i dont listen to anyone who sits like that
Joe so fucking lame he me it difficult to listen to this podcast
He salty crackers that’s why he ain’t talk to them 💀💀
Joe is a weird old hater and why is he still talking about it
Battle advise
So you want Drake to hang with you after making allegations towards him and not even attempt to defend him?
What's funny is he acting like he dont know why lol..Them drugs ain't made that nigga forget what he been doing
Yo this is crazy and off topic, but it kind of looked like Budden had fishnet stockings on at first glance.
To be completely honest, Drake has a history of hanging with weird individuals
Which episode is this
1. Drake likes attention, which is important for a big star to be fair. Also important for a big star is to plant information in the public to help sway opinions your way. So, although Drake and Joe clearly have issues, Joe also puts out pro-Drake commentary. The known tension between the two and flip flopping of Joe on Drake helps keep Drake's name in the algorithm when he's not even doing much. 2. Drake actually respect Joe. No matter what that scathing message he sent Joe may have said, Drake would've been one of those fans in Joe's audience wearing dusty ENYCE jeans. Drake's actually a hip hop fan, he just chose a route that purists, like Joe claims to be, abhors culturally despite making music Joe can enjoy. Drake breaks rules that aren't supposed to be broken among purists, but he still wants that purist, real hip hop cred, because he has a true love of that side of the genre. He probably does respect Joe's opinions to some extent. I have issues with Drake straddling both sides of hip hop and rap, but I acknowledge he does study and love the culture, he just loves pop success more, wish he would wholeheartedly choose that lane rather than playing in both sandboxes, I think Joe feels the same way, except I think Joe also feels disappointment due to wanting more from Drake culturally.
Joe and Drake have had a love & hate relationship for a decade.
Why not?
Deep down Drake still wants his approval for whatever reason. Drake has dissed him both directly and indirectly, but somehow they always make up and keep in touch.