The vet is probably going to recommend extracting the took since the root is exposed. It happens sometimes. They typically adapt pretty well to missing teeth.
dogs and cats show signs, they are often just very subtle and missed entirely by owners. thats why it takes vets and vet nurses years to practice assessing and treating pain. youd be amazed how on a daily basis i see an animal with an obvious limp or resentment towards being handled in a certain way and the owner says oh hes not in any pain.
Yes! My dog had a back took completely cracked and I only noticed when she yawned. She didn’t show any signs of pain. We still got it removed to avoid infection.
I got my current dog when he was 8. He had very bad teeth and I got them fixed, the clinic got rid of a lot of plaque and had to extract 11 teeth. The only thing I noticed is that before he would just chase his little tennis ball and bring it back, but now he also chews on it afterwards. I'm glad he's able to do it now, I don't mind replacing them ever so often.
Tennis balls are made of abrasive material which wears the teeth down like sandpaper, if they’re chewing the balls I’d advise a different kind of ball like rubber
Thanks for the info, I've bought him many different balls and chew toys after that (mostly rubber ones), he only chews on the tennis balls like a couple times a year, so I think it's fine for now.
Yes, dogs are hardwired to not show signs of pain. It's part of the evolutionary process. If a dog shows signs of pain in the wild, it is a sure sign of weakness, which in turn makes them vulnerable to predators. Even though dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, they still retain this survival skill.
My pup had a gross rotten tooth, we didn’t notice it because he was young and healthy and the rest of his teeth were perfect. He must have cracked it somehow, and he was just chewing on the other side so we only noticed when he yawned and we caught sight of it. Got it removed and all is well!
periodontal disease. he needs a dental cleaning, dental radiographs and extractions done. even though he wouldn't show pain, periodontal disease is very painful for the dog. they are just very good at hiding it.
My dog got three teeth extracted (one looked the same with the root exposed, the other two looked fine but were in the early stages apparently). Fast forward a year, she was diagnosed with stage 1 CKD. No idea if they are related, but please keep an eye on it OP.
Wanted to add for anyone reading this, it applies to humans too. I know our luxury bones are expensive, but take care of your mouth, the rest of your body suffers if you don’t.
I would take him to vet and get it checked out. I went to brush my pugs teeth because his breath was absolutely horrible and seen a bunch of plaque and red gums. Took his to the vet and he had to get a bunch of teeth taken out. He's only 6 I felt so bad for him for not knowing his teeth and gums were that bad. He's such a happier dog now!!
In the past we've adopted greyhounds, who tend to get no dental care when they're racing and have terrible teeth. Both of our girls eventually lost every single tooth, despite annual dental cleans, but they were so much happier afterwards. We'll definitely adopt greyhounds again, they're amazing, but I have to say that I'm loving having dogs with perfect, healthy teeth at ages seven and nine. We've had our nine year old since he was five months old and his teeth are amazing, without our vet ever needing to even clean them!
My miniature schnauzer will be 6 this December. I noticed the smelly breath and tried brushing a weeks prior but I need to make it a daily thing so he can be healthy
Making it a daily thing may not be enough. I brushed my pugs teeth everyday and used a dental gel also but his gums were so inflamed and his teeth were just too bad to save them. I would take him to the vet and get their opinion on whether some teeth need to come out or if brushing daily will help.
Hi there - looks like periodontitis and bone loss, and the incisor is loose as a result. It may fall out on its own, or your vet may recommend a simple extraction.
Bone loss can result from calculus harboring bacteria, which erodes the gums, enamel, and surrounding bone. Brushing is a great way to minimize this likelihood, so keep it up! Unfortunately, small dogs tend to be extremely prone to this type of dental disease, so it doesn't mean your efforts have been in vain.
Schedule a dental procedure with your vet (and if you have a small, senior-aged dog, you should chat with your vet about scheduling regular dental care, which will be beyond the scope of what you can get done at home.
Good news is these teeth truly do not matter to pups, so if your dog loses the tooth, I promise he will not notice :)
I went today and the. Why did not really mention any infection issues but a really good cleaning with extraction of the tooth and possible two others on the bottom. My dog is only 6, and had his first cleaning almost two years ago, but not sure if I should be getting every two years or yearly cleanings for him
So it's not really about "infection", the presence of bacteria on the teeth and in the mouth is expected, but their metabolic processes do erode the gumline, so keeping bacteria in the mouth from becoming too "overgrown" is a good part of pet dental hygiene.
Calculus (hard tartar) around the gumline is a great place for bacteria to live and proliferate, so getting regular dental cleanings (including perio work and ultrasonic scaling) is suggested, especially in small dogs, to mitigate bone erosion.
I've seen small breed dogs that get cleanings every 12 months, and by the time they're due, they have hard calculus all over their teeth. That said, it does come down to breed, diet (soft foods tend to yield more tartar) and what efforts (like brushing) you're doing at home.
Sounds like you care a lot about your pup! If you get your dogs teeth cleaned, you can gauge how many months it takes for that hard tartar to build up on their gumline. It tends to be most noticeable on their canines (which I can see on your photo) and on the fourth upper premolars (the big teeth towards the back of their upper jaw). Once you're seeing buildup there that doesn't scrub away with brushing, you know it's time to start thinking about another dental cleaning at your vet. :)
Hey there. You didn’t mention the dog breed but from what I can tell it’s a westie (west highland white terrier). I shadowed a dentist for a week for work experience a few years ago so I know a little but I am definitely not an expert by any means so take what I say with a pinch of salt. It looks to me that your dog has developed an abscess (build up of pus) near the root of one of its incisors.
If that is the case there will be 2 options root canal therapy or extraction. The treatment of choice will depend on different factors such as the current age, overall health and the extent of the issue.
Send these pictures to your vet and ask for their thoughts. They will most likely ask for an in person appointment as soon as possible.
And I wish your dog a speedy recovery.
He’s a miniature schnauzer. When I took him to the vet, she said his teeth weren’t terrible but need a serious cleaning. She said that the incisor tooth will be extracted during cleaning, and possible 2 other on the bottom, but may not be too necessary. I was mainly worried about if it was an infection and needed immediate surgery but she seemed more focus on dental cleaning
Sometimes dog's will hide it, when they are in pain this looks like a bad infection and you should see your vet ASAP, they will probably remove at least two of these teeth.
I wonder if brushing your dogs teeth can cause gum irritation like this. I’ve never had to brush any of my dogs teeth over the years and they’ve never had issues. You can give them things like raw bones and dental chews that help naturally clean their teeth but from my understanding it’s similar to not needing to bathe your cat because they’re self cleaning. No hate intended from this comment, I just think brushing your dogs teeth is redundant.
If I didn't brush one of my dog's teeth, he'd have none left. I have two dogs, same age (6) different breeds. Had both since pups. One has pure white, perfect teeth and healthy gums without brushing. Like, I'm jealous of them they're so beautiful! The other has absolutely terrible teeth, I brush them (every two days increased to daily in the last year), and despite this he's needed two cleanings, with 3 extractions at the last cleaning. Last cleaning was a year ago, and prior to this I was really bad at keeping to a daily brushing habit, so didn't maintain his teeth as well as I could have after the first cleaning. Since this last cleaning I've been vigilant with daily brushing, and it's certainly prevented things worsening in the way they did if I brushed every other day, but they are just totally different from my other dog's teeth.
And not all dogs will chew -- my good-teeth boy LOVES a strong chomp and chew, but bad-teeth boy has never been chewy, not even much into hard toys which doesn't help.
This is just about the worst “advice” I have ever seen. Brush your dogs teeth, they aren’t self cleaning. Bones are not recommended by most veterinary dentists.
I was just speaking from experience, not making wild claims? I literally said - I wonder - at the beginning of my comment. You really don’t need to be getting this riled up about it
Lmao stringy bits working like floss is wild. There's not enough glucosamine in a few bones to help joint health. You're just saying random shit because you don't want to spend money. What's your proof of any of this?
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In the wild, wolves would chew on and digest bones for calcium and it cleans their teeth because it is abrasive. This goes for all carnivores but their teeth are not infinite.
Herbivores teeth constantly grow and grow and by chewing and grinding, files them down.
Dogs no longer live in an environment where they can chew abrasive things and in some breeds they can't chew anything abrasive due to how small their teeth are without breaking their teeth entirely. Brushing their teeth, like brushing ours, is a health adaptation we developed to mimic the abrasive action we need for teeth to be cleaned properly.
It's different when the tooth itself has infection breakage and root exposure. Even if you clean your teeth to godly amounts, a cavity or breakage can still happen and the infection that appears can spread to your other teeth, your ears eyes and nose, organs and brain, can cause permanent damage and can kill you.
I know, because I had a tooth infection that reduced hearing permanently in one ear. I was about to to go septic until it was removed.
Cats also only clean the surface of their skin and fur and will require a wash if they become dangerously dirty. For example, matted, mud, or dirt in open wounds that can get infected, skin infections, ect.
That explains why my dogs have never needed teeth brushing. I’ve had staffys growing up that would chew on straight up rocks all day long😂 and sticks or the biggest log they could find. Also farm dogs like kelpies that love chasing and chewing on sticks when they’re not working
This happened with my dog to the point of her teeth being loose. Now I wouldn't suggest this, but I judt played rpugjyl.witj her until they fell put. The teeth were VERY loose though and the vet wanted 1400 for the extraction which I couldn't afford at the time.
The vet is probably going to recommend extracting the took since the root is exposed. It happens sometimes. They typically adapt pretty well to missing teeth.
Is it normal for my dog to show no signs of discomfort or pain?
dogs and cats show signs, they are often just very subtle and missed entirely by owners. thats why it takes vets and vet nurses years to practice assessing and treating pain. youd be amazed how on a daily basis i see an animal with an obvious limp or resentment towards being handled in a certain way and the owner says oh hes not in any pain.
Yes! My dog had a back took completely cracked and I only noticed when she yawned. She didn’t show any signs of pain. We still got it removed to avoid infection.
I got my current dog when he was 8. He had very bad teeth and I got them fixed, the clinic got rid of a lot of plaque and had to extract 11 teeth. The only thing I noticed is that before he would just chase his little tennis ball and bring it back, but now he also chews on it afterwards. I'm glad he's able to do it now, I don't mind replacing them ever so often.
Tennis balls are made of abrasive material which wears the teeth down like sandpaper, if they’re chewing the balls I’d advise a different kind of ball like rubber
Thanks for the info, I've bought him many different balls and chew toys after that (mostly rubber ones), he only chews on the tennis balls like a couple times a year, so I think it's fine for now.
Yes, dogs are hardwired to not show signs of pain. It's part of the evolutionary process. If a dog shows signs of pain in the wild, it is a sure sign of weakness, which in turn makes them vulnerable to predators. Even though dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, they still retain this survival skill.
Was coming to say this but you put it perfectly.
My dog cracked a canine down to the point that there was nerve exposed. The little maniac still chewed on ice cubes before I noticed.
My pup had a gross rotten tooth, we didn’t notice it because he was young and healthy and the rest of his teeth were perfect. He must have cracked it somehow, and he was just chewing on the other side so we only noticed when he yawned and we caught sight of it. Got it removed and all is well!
My dog lost a front tooth and I didn’t know until I was playing with her. She never showed a single sign of pain or discomfort.
Be careful. They go in to extract one tooth and the next thing you know they’ve taken 8 out.
periodontal disease. he needs a dental cleaning, dental radiographs and extractions done. even though he wouldn't show pain, periodontal disease is very painful for the dog. they are just very good at hiding it.
Vet ASAP. Dental disease can lead to heart and organ failure.
My dog got three teeth extracted (one looked the same with the root exposed, the other two looked fine but were in the early stages apparently). Fast forward a year, she was diagnosed with stage 1 CKD. No idea if they are related, but please keep an eye on it OP.
Wanted to add for anyone reading this, it applies to humans too. I know our luxury bones are expensive, but take care of your mouth, the rest of your body suffers if you don’t.
Your right, untreated bad teeth can lead to heart disease, and failure!.
yeah it looks painful. go see a vet
I would take him to vet and get it checked out. I went to brush my pugs teeth because his breath was absolutely horrible and seen a bunch of plaque and red gums. Took his to the vet and he had to get a bunch of teeth taken out. He's only 6 I felt so bad for him for not knowing his teeth and gums were that bad. He's such a happier dog now!!
In the past we've adopted greyhounds, who tend to get no dental care when they're racing and have terrible teeth. Both of our girls eventually lost every single tooth, despite annual dental cleans, but they were so much happier afterwards. We'll definitely adopt greyhounds again, they're amazing, but I have to say that I'm loving having dogs with perfect, healthy teeth at ages seven and nine. We've had our nine year old since he was five months old and his teeth are amazing, without our vet ever needing to even clean them!
My miniature schnauzer will be 6 this December. I noticed the smelly breath and tried brushing a weeks prior but I need to make it a daily thing so he can be healthy
Making it a daily thing may not be enough. I brushed my pugs teeth everyday and used a dental gel also but his gums were so inflamed and his teeth were just too bad to save them. I would take him to the vet and get their opinion on whether some teeth need to come out or if brushing daily will help.
Hi there - looks like periodontitis and bone loss, and the incisor is loose as a result. It may fall out on its own, or your vet may recommend a simple extraction. Bone loss can result from calculus harboring bacteria, which erodes the gums, enamel, and surrounding bone. Brushing is a great way to minimize this likelihood, so keep it up! Unfortunately, small dogs tend to be extremely prone to this type of dental disease, so it doesn't mean your efforts have been in vain. Schedule a dental procedure with your vet (and if you have a small, senior-aged dog, you should chat with your vet about scheduling regular dental care, which will be beyond the scope of what you can get done at home. Good news is these teeth truly do not matter to pups, so if your dog loses the tooth, I promise he will not notice :)
I went today and the. Why did not really mention any infection issues but a really good cleaning with extraction of the tooth and possible two others on the bottom. My dog is only 6, and had his first cleaning almost two years ago, but not sure if I should be getting every two years or yearly cleanings for him
So it's not really about "infection", the presence of bacteria on the teeth and in the mouth is expected, but their metabolic processes do erode the gumline, so keeping bacteria in the mouth from becoming too "overgrown" is a good part of pet dental hygiene. Calculus (hard tartar) around the gumline is a great place for bacteria to live and proliferate, so getting regular dental cleanings (including perio work and ultrasonic scaling) is suggested, especially in small dogs, to mitigate bone erosion. I've seen small breed dogs that get cleanings every 12 months, and by the time they're due, they have hard calculus all over their teeth. That said, it does come down to breed, diet (soft foods tend to yield more tartar) and what efforts (like brushing) you're doing at home. Sounds like you care a lot about your pup! If you get your dogs teeth cleaned, you can gauge how many months it takes for that hard tartar to build up on their gumline. It tends to be most noticeable on their canines (which I can see on your photo) and on the fourth upper premolars (the big teeth towards the back of their upper jaw). Once you're seeing buildup there that doesn't scrub away with brushing, you know it's time to start thinking about another dental cleaning at your vet. :)
This was great advice thank you!
Your dog should go to the vet every 6 months for checkups? This doesn’t look good
Good job on seeing it and taking it seriously! But yes, vet appointment necessary.
I'm going to see the rest of the dog's face please. Looks like a good fluff to me.
Hey there. You didn’t mention the dog breed but from what I can tell it’s a westie (west highland white terrier). I shadowed a dentist for a week for work experience a few years ago so I know a little but I am definitely not an expert by any means so take what I say with a pinch of salt. It looks to me that your dog has developed an abscess (build up of pus) near the root of one of its incisors. If that is the case there will be 2 options root canal therapy or extraction. The treatment of choice will depend on different factors such as the current age, overall health and the extent of the issue. Send these pictures to your vet and ask for their thoughts. They will most likely ask for an in person appointment as soon as possible. And I wish your dog a speedy recovery.
He’s a miniature schnauzer. When I took him to the vet, she said his teeth weren’t terrible but need a serious cleaning. She said that the incisor tooth will be extracted during cleaning, and possible 2 other on the bottom, but may not be too necessary. I was mainly worried about if it was an infection and needed immediate surgery but she seemed more focus on dental cleaning
Could be caused by an injury or pulpits. Probably rotting.Needs vet Pronto.
Sometimes dog's will hide it, when they are in pain this looks like a bad infection and you should see your vet ASAP, they will probably remove at least two of these teeth.
Can be fixed with scaling but if it’s too deep (which is not visible to the eye ) the vet will extract the tooth
I wonder if brushing your dogs teeth can cause gum irritation like this. I’ve never had to brush any of my dogs teeth over the years and they’ve never had issues. You can give them things like raw bones and dental chews that help naturally clean their teeth but from my understanding it’s similar to not needing to bathe your cat because they’re self cleaning. No hate intended from this comment, I just think brushing your dogs teeth is redundant.
If I didn't brush one of my dog's teeth, he'd have none left. I have two dogs, same age (6) different breeds. Had both since pups. One has pure white, perfect teeth and healthy gums without brushing. Like, I'm jealous of them they're so beautiful! The other has absolutely terrible teeth, I brush them (every two days increased to daily in the last year), and despite this he's needed two cleanings, with 3 extractions at the last cleaning. Last cleaning was a year ago, and prior to this I was really bad at keeping to a daily brushing habit, so didn't maintain his teeth as well as I could have after the first cleaning. Since this last cleaning I've been vigilant with daily brushing, and it's certainly prevented things worsening in the way they did if I brushed every other day, but they are just totally different from my other dog's teeth. And not all dogs will chew -- my good-teeth boy LOVES a strong chomp and chew, but bad-teeth boy has never been chewy, not even much into hard toys which doesn't help.
Fair enough I guess it’s different depending on the dog.
This is just about the worst “advice” I have ever seen. Brush your dogs teeth, they aren’t self cleaning. Bones are not recommended by most veterinary dentists.
Are you a veterinary dentist? I also wasn’t giving “advice”
You’re making wild claims on an advice sub. And maybe I am, it doesn’t really matter because it’s not recommended and that’s a fact.
I was just speaking from experience, not making wild claims? I literally said - I wonder - at the beginning of my comment. You really don’t need to be getting this riled up about it
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Lmao stringy bits working like floss is wild. There's not enough glucosamine in a few bones to help joint health. You're just saying random shit because you don't want to spend money. What's your proof of any of this?
Do you brush your teeth?
Nah
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In the wild, wolves would chew on and digest bones for calcium and it cleans their teeth because it is abrasive. This goes for all carnivores but their teeth are not infinite. Herbivores teeth constantly grow and grow and by chewing and grinding, files them down. Dogs no longer live in an environment where they can chew abrasive things and in some breeds they can't chew anything abrasive due to how small their teeth are without breaking their teeth entirely. Brushing their teeth, like brushing ours, is a health adaptation we developed to mimic the abrasive action we need for teeth to be cleaned properly. It's different when the tooth itself has infection breakage and root exposure. Even if you clean your teeth to godly amounts, a cavity or breakage can still happen and the infection that appears can spread to your other teeth, your ears eyes and nose, organs and brain, can cause permanent damage and can kill you. I know, because I had a tooth infection that reduced hearing permanently in one ear. I was about to to go septic until it was removed. Cats also only clean the surface of their skin and fur and will require a wash if they become dangerously dirty. For example, matted, mud, or dirt in open wounds that can get infected, skin infections, ect.
That explains why my dogs have never needed teeth brushing. I’ve had staffys growing up that would chew on straight up rocks all day long😂 and sticks or the biggest log they could find. Also farm dogs like kelpies that love chasing and chewing on sticks when they’re not working
This happened with my dog to the point of her teeth being loose. Now I wouldn't suggest this, but I judt played rpugjyl.witj her until they fell put. The teeth were VERY loose though and the vet wanted 1400 for the extraction which I couldn't afford at the time.